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oh, ready knows. welcome to take talk with about hackers and paralyzed entire societies. computers. then now some of you and governments that go crazy for your data. we explain how these technologies work, how they can go in for, and that's how they can also go terribly. watch it. now on youtube. as news of the bush, a massacre comes in. crowds gather for a vigil outside the ukrainian embassy in tbilisi. the event organized by russians living and georgia and russia has a fascist regime in one that has to be overthrown. these russians have fled putin's
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repressive rule and come to georgia. i'm among them people like tanya and her children. with me, when i see with what's happening now is unbearable horror and pain. i don't know what i am speechless i r t m and alexi have also been trying to settle here since the war broke out. back in moscow, they faced the threat of being arrested, but russians are not necessarily welcome and georgia posters on the streets boast special offers for the new arrivals, but the links present them with images of the war accompanied by captions. ego or corrupt have has been living in tbilisi for 10 years now. he's happy to help his compatriots, blue in that of the ship or girl. tens of thousands of russians have already arrived. people here are afraid that potent could invade to rescue them. that's the way it always goes. it is connecticut. mm.
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it's noon in tbilisi. hundreds of people have gathered outside the orthodox cash fatty church to honor a georgian killed while fighting as a volunteer in the ukraine war. igor corruptive is among the mourners. back home, he worked as a media producer, but the restrictions on press freedom in russia heavily impeded his work. there are many georgians risking their lives in ukraine to stop russia's war of aggression. the fallen soldier, w rattie. annie was a friend of e gore's. you guys some fox though, must have some of my closest friends are now actually fighting my own countrymen who are part of this aggressive invasion of ukraine. i thought of. but if we,
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if i could, i see of great. and that makes the tragedy 10 times worse. now, this is new to people like this deserve respect. a, their families deserve all the support they can get a but from the people, as well as from the georgia government of him. i hope they get it. what i read was totally the war against ukraine is also a war against georgia. i now got a new showed up at the y, and i go to the georgia has experienced war itself with russia in recent memory. following that invasion in august, 2008, the russian military did not fully withdraw, and the regions of south ho, sacha and kasha are still occupied. there is widespread fear that moscow could occupy the whole of georgia under what would have been since moving to georgia. e. gore has led the caucus as division of the free russia foundation and independent organisation funded by donations. the group promotes democratic development in russia and supports opposition to putin. these flowers are in
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remembrance to exxon about lena. the independent russian journalist was killed during shelling by russian forces, while reporting from keith which is room of hooton's regime, is not only killing ukrainians. they're also killing russians in ukraine, that thou, as many of them are in cave and other ukrainian cities. but that's the whole market . they're trying to help a better because they now see the country as their home. that them, if i am gorman, the war has also made life more dangerous. for many russians in russia, around 40000 of them fled to georgia in the 1st weeks of the war. their 1st port of call is often the free russia foundation. igor, corrupt evans, his staff, helped the new arise bulls to find their feet in georgia. the 1st thing igor has to explain to his compatriots is why they are not always welcomed with open arms in
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georgia. in that of the ships will go through it by tens of thousands of russians have already arrived with them. put, some people here are afraid that potent could invade to rescue them. now that's why i said, that is the way it always goes. that's why we often here we go back to russia and take on putin you, why have you come to georgia to our tampa to cobbs. freedom was at stake and russia . he was a member of an opposition party and active in the anti war movement. and one day, a heavily armed special police unit was standing at his door. but he said we were in the, the police were round for days to ring. after i left the country, they even asked my relatives about my whereabouts. i think it was closer to you. yeah. ah. for my own sources informed me that the authorities were preparing criminal charges against me. della gold now. he nor your prost porno. still,
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i realised it will be more effective to leave and you can continue my work here. you can go to prison, go co video critique, polonium of stamps from as english, marcia christiane, and av as a photojournalist. he was interrogated by the f. s. b security service who tried to blackmail him into becoming an informant. he fled to georgia 6 months ago. after the war broke out his girlfriend, lisa followed him. he is emily's. i was afraid i would never see vesee again. we did wish of. i saw her mother didn't want the family to be separated, so she came to georgia to with lease as younger siblings. it's me if the right a thing to me was that we are altogether him and the been, you mentioned to him. you haven't understand that you can be arrested at any time in russia. the more and more have read that yet. hung you boy, my man. ah. the fact that lisa is in
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a relationship with me is reason enough. ease of re moyer boss question. the hoarded sir. because the thought on that chair to suddenly he, he say in moscow, tanya worked as a nutritionist. she separated from her husband a while ago. he supports the children with his income and in the young to attend school. here yasha and leo show would have to speak georgian. so tanya is homeschooling them at the kitchen table. this song lends itself to spelling practice. and that if they study here, it's about piece of yeah. and that, well if and material things don't matter that you didn't know what the me love a family thing that matters. so business i, even though i was 90,
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was leaving russia and giving up their old life has been a sacrifice for each family member. their 1st days and georgia, we're particularly hard the yeah. they said that was we lived in the crack of dawn . the 1st place we stadium was unbearable. it was minus 6 outside, but there was no heating in the building and the toilet was on the street. this is this, wendy department is nice and warm, everything works and the children have that and lucy did was very low. you. 17 year old marina helps to cook some traditional bush, a taste of home that will do them all. good, wendy, enough. that way there's marina had to leave her friends behind vegas. it's hard for every one. the children are aware that we've lost something, both of them, most of them will be good at him. tanya shares the 5 room apartment with olga barbara nova and her 2 children, money is tight. i didn't,
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i didn't. what marina has made a start with the bush that like tanya and her children, olga also comes from moscow. she was a successful business woman. they are producing high tech wheelchairs after she took part in anti war protests. the authorities put pressure on her and her family . she gave everything up, but she doesn't want to stay in georgia. i was, you see the plaintiff. but there's a notice up here in the corridor saying that 20 percent of georgia is occupied and russians are therefore not welcome here. but i'm not ashamed of being russian. i didn't vote for this president and his government. i'm not responsible for their actions. those with the bush is ready in time for lunch. tanya can imagine living for a long time in georgia with her children. ideally, she'd work as a nutritionist for children. emma,
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but there's as long as it's 8. i can help mother say a to which would also give me a big list. you said it might not work out as we not really welcome as ration say, the masses isn't amazing of activities, which if we need to be prepared for that. so kind of like the faddle. ah, tanya has baked a cake for her eldest daughter, lisa lived with her boy for vasa, the photojournalist on the opposite side of the city. georgia is a popular refuge for russians as they can enter the country without a visa, a policy that georgia hoped would attract russian tourists. now, many political refugees are coming in stead with r t. m. for 2 cars and alexi blash and off are among them. they're both opposed to the war and are members of the opposition from moscow. both were threatened with
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prison there and fled to deb lisi at very short notice. but these posters all over the city are a rude awakening. and english and russian, they promised discounts for concerts in russian. but instead the q r codes take you to this war footage from ukraine with the message. it's not just putin's fault ever before, facilitates a kind of trap that the q r code conceals what's actually behind it. it says it's about a music platform. what have over them, what's been russian. many music platforms are no longer available. those like, but it's a kind of bait, pretty mancha at the video. and all this video is aimed at old russians. ah, of course, i can't agree with everything in it. so to call of marker. yeah. yeah. but i certainly don't deny responsibility for what's happening. like a quote, obviously, but we are all responsible, lots of seo, r t m has very limited savings and is glad that his friends were able to help him
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find a cheap apartment. the rents for russians are often overpriced. this sir, lay school of this is my room, but those are not my things share. this was kind of it. here is the bed. oh, the apartment is in a poor state. the owners have lived abroad for many years. there's no shower, no hot water, an no heating. some of the window panes are missing and it's cold. art him can't afford even minor repairs. he arrived here from russia with no more than a tooth brush and a mobile phone in his pocket. for you, do you have pots and pans? ah, yes, look, authentic a virtue, coffee pots, and you can cook for many, and the bigger one is me. wooded. have you already tried it? die, yes, you have a good many. you just the, that's all russians need to survive. the pair don't want to just sit around while an exile they plan to set up a youtube channel for opposition,
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members and other people who have stayed in russia. their 1st video recording is scheduled for the weekend with 2 guests went over there, she provided they're still alive and not in jail by then novel speaking, a fog, a but a homework writing privilege show of play. the people will be interviewing for this project. the kind of people who have already been expressing their opinion about putin regime for decades, i'll give it up a brookins glittering natasha looked r t m has discovered a bookshop where he can buy literature band and russia. in one book, he surprised to find a chapter about his grandmother. anal, shook was an artist who fought for women's rights and against the supremacy of the russian orthodox church. persecuted by the putin regime. she emigrated to germany in 2007. ah, she does jessica. after
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a few months exile in berlin, she went out one day and disappeared over paula. 2 weeks later, her body was found in the river's gray affair. oh, the story was in the german media. we decided it still isn't clear whether it was suicide or murder. mystery that blew her grandson is now fighting the futon regime to the young journalist has been arrested several times. he too, has opted for exile. yet at least i'm as old as the putin regime. i feel free are here than in russia. what i'm doing is considered treason there. i have with our senior deal with the, with the bus latino. i tried to stay in russia for as long as possible to speak up there was kelsey enough, but it would have been no use to anyone. if i'd stayed and to ended up in prison, i think you back if you wanna go next i'll, i can continue my campaign in 15 look of when we got up, civil rights were dismissed. the friends had off our tim has something planned
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later in the day. ego or corrupt have is on the road on a special mission. he and some colleagues from the free russia foundation are on their way to some villages bordering the russian occupied region of south australia . just a 90 minute drive from tbilisi. the exiled russians regularly traveled there to offer their support to the villagers, many of whom faced severe hardship. wept f. o. 2, the russians who worked with us had befriended the villagers. they visit them and bring them something nice, a gift or some food you do that also the people they are live in really tough conditions on which little one of the blue, you know, vasa, the photo journalist his also on the bus. he's been working for the free russia foundation since he arrived in georgia and reports on the areas affected by russian
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military presence. like e, e, gore, before them, most of the people on the bus have chosen georgia as their new home. oh, oh. oh. the song is called sa, continental, the name of the country in georgian age of the year, the smartest while on the road, you look around and you know, there are russian tanks not far from here. okay. it makes me feel very the motion, almost sim, login, which of the got the somehow you have to let it out. almost annoyed vanessa. this is where russian troops, our troops have a legally occupied georgia territory. at this moment, i feel more like a georgian gotten when they arrive in the village of soccer and blow directly on the border to russian controlled south voceti with the russian activists have
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brought along bags full of shopping for months. they've been giving this family their special attention and regularly donate money to them. the house is an urgent need of renovation. how are you doing well? rose, i'm ok. thanks. and you. so the bar they installing a shower here is saying this is my bag for you. lots of chocolate. with that. thank you. ok, gunther is the renovation going well. do the children a rainy please stay on happy tea cup so to he is 37. she's been a widow for years and is unemployed vasquez documenting everything for a photo essay. the georgia authorities have practically abandoned areas close to
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the russian occupation line. back in russia, e gore tells us. people have no idea about the conditions in this region. we're not much a sinner suck, we're just a few meters away from the occupation lines of the exiled russians who have lived in georgia a while know something about the situation there, but those who have just arrived, i have no idea about the russian occupation of georgia clearly they'd knock that says time we met him, we noticed that the glories difference. we only found out later that he was russian . she speaks georgie in very well. faith. you can't tell that he's russian. conduct a stone that it was oh back. intimately see, hidden in a back yard and the old town is the store selling books band in russia. exiled russians run the store and collect donations for the families of ukrainian war
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victims. they also take sides with those subject to political persecution and russia. party him as supervising the campaign way for william vigil bishop. but his official who writes letters to political prisoners and russia, anton beller, bruce. it's mostly political refugees from russia who come here or did they come and write letters to people. they don't know personally on fi swishy. we try to read to all of them each more. they are the ones who represent the true russia compose the people who would never have allowed this war to happen. yeah, i'd like to didn't because you used to say ashika but, but i'm not allowed to say had the letters reach them over from good. ah, the team have written around 50 letters today, which will soon be embarking on their mysterious journey to russia. the bookshop is
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open until midnight, and the entrance is marked by flags. the ukrainian one and the flag of russians opposed to putin's war. it's white, blue and white, the russian flag without red, the color of blood. ah, tanya is on her way to visit her eldest daughter lisa and her boyfriend, vasa, she's baked them a cake. the young couple have found a small one room apartment and the old town of tbilisi. lisa is enrolled at a prestigious moscow art college. it's not yet clear whether she can complete her studies from georgia. but anything is better than being separated from bosnia they had little bullish blow jolla. i was very unwell. i consulted a psychologist and took all kinds of pills below. pick it up,
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they prescribed antidepressants, but i didn't take them, they pretty strong, initializing. it needs the doors bush and decided to drink alcohol. and stella, you have a little poke, would again to do this, and that avoid after vascular left. i had just didn't get out of bed buckle. yes, julio, love she any more love stays grow, or tim tanya does not regret her decision to leave my scow with the whole family and toe for her. it was out of the question to leave her 20 year old daughter to fend for herself. and she feels that lisa is finally getting better now that she's back with boss. yeah. i think i said, how was your trip fast? yeah. one of the families living there are really poor and now it's even more difficult for them because the georgia government is under a lot of pressure, but he's almost there. she never received the last day. but how did you feel
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boylen you, brianna? i felt pain and unease. yes, absolutely. and that comes from the russians being the ones who occupied the area here for you to do what she fast, you took some amazing photos, little quizzes. novel says putin has done a lot of damage in the post soviet regions to pull. okay, this is eager dawn, this is the family he's helping. the house is right on the border to the occupied area, but comfortable. these hills are under the control of russian troops. it's the weekend and tbilisi r t m and alexi are about to make their 1st video reporting and he gore's free russia foundation studio. a camera man is available along with the equipment that alexi and our team need for their project, a youtube channel in support of the anti war movement in russia. their
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1st guest is lou markovich schlossberg, an opposition politician who does not want to leave his country. left markers, i was close. tell us how you're feeling shoe store. are you in russia right now to just he squeeze through it in addition that on yet, elizabeth, exactly kid lies. are an obligatory part of the propaganda here. it's very difficult to live with because that turning people crazy. if bit of the blue you see people who are quite known yesterday i went on today. they want to see blood her with just one day before the video was posted online. schlossberg and his wife were arrested for allegedly defaming the russian army. next up is eager. corruptive. he too is trying to send a wake up call to the population of his home country with his internet program borders own
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little. i met the throne in which patricia, this video is dedicated to the citizens of russia. he, according to the polls, was 83 per cent of russian support. the policies of vladimir putin applicant, to lamentable smug. look on the internet and see who he is describing as nationalists, sorta bootable a women and children who have pled ukraine for their lives. later in the day, this bar terrace is a popular gathering point for exiled russians in tbilisi, alexey and r t a meet up with their georgian friend, ki orgy. with me, i was to know, steward, by a boon when it was at the bookshop today. someone called and told me, i have to leave the apartment and pay for one month. so why not any of you smoothly told they didn't explain why, but they wanted me to move out. the young men trust each other now, but the way the 2 russians and the george and met is another story
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going. okay, so do through germany, the for good. well, i came into the store on there were a few russian guys there. it told me that they were fooling around and being loud. 0, one of them said, i feel i come on vacation here. i said with confidence like that, i was annoyed that someone could say such a thing in war time, especially when it's their country's fault. i'm the sure sure to get up to your d then posted a video on social media brushes just arrived in georgia. i take a look at this means that we're not your friends and a means that you're not welcome in our country. so you may say that you're not legitimate a fortune and you don't want the word, but of course nobody's going to believing that. no. why? because you're saying it now when you're losing the work that are done, like i do, oh my gosh. oh, russian responded to the post and said, who are for we still, we know that we russians a bad and a we started a war so i feel bad hold on
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a battery issue. that was at 1st i thought he was only saying it because he was scanned it on the phone with a medical delivery. my because they don't show up well, but then i checked his profile on found a video of him crying, saying why had to leave his family behind or to get through them with you. with that i suggested to him and his friends thought yeoman alexi that we go for a walk or do something together on this. i want it to show the around to blessing monk. i'm the men have been friends ever since. to night. they arrange to meet the next day for an anti war protest organized by eager corruptive, and his people the following afternoon, outside the ukrainian embassy. people have now heard the terrible news from ukraine about the boot massacre. igor has cancelled the march. he'd planned. instead, candles are lit and flowers laid at the fence of the embassy pneumonia,
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bush sticky, but there must never be politicians like this again and again. oh, good robin. of nothing matters. if we cannot speak the truth, you apply, russia has a fascist regime than one that has to be overthrown. don't don't grow foolish daughter. we cannot live a normal life until that happens. more than my fiddle, which i don't know if for when that will happen. that has him no new sort of now we're abroad, but at some point, i know we have to go back and bring down the regime. let's go down to jo modem. otherwise this war will never end and will be standing here crying. i'm with this with margie block, it's diane margie shuttle to do it. around 400 russians have gathered at the impromptu vigil including our gym and alexi, and tanya with her children you know what you wanted them, your taste agonizing. i see what's happening now is unbearable. horror and pain. i,
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but i didn't know was, was he born? i'm speechless. i mean, yes. with was dollars, which was good. i'm charlottesville. of course i want nothing to do with them. i'm so sorry. it's a disgrace. it's awful. that the it goes against the human nature of the solution. answerable mum, it is in human wasn't enough for the merchandise. so you can call this genocide efficiency can fit into my but i'm sorry that my countrymen are involved the ability to traverse because even if they're new, george and friend g yorkie has not turned up as planned. at the very least, the 2 young men know they are not alone here. ah, ah ah,
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