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[000:00:00;00] ah, he was president biden's, his america's commitment to israel is bone deep. but that doesn't mean these 2 allies always see eye to eye, especially when it comes to the nuclear threat from iran. despite the damage done to the iran nuclear deal by his predecessor, you as president biden is still willing to give diplomacy a chance when it comes to iran, the bomb and diplomacy. israel is clear, no chance. i'm broke off in berlin. this is the day. ah, you and i also discussed the marriage amendment to ensuring a rand never obtained a nuclear weapon. if they continue to develop their nuclear program,
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will continue to work or israel to counter other threats from rand throughout the region. the free world will use force. i continue to believe that the pharmacy is the best way to achieve this outcome. would we, let's look what we are not going away from. the only way to stop them is to put a credible military threat on the table. also coming up, the crisis ensure longer, the president has fled the country and submitted his resignation. one reason why protesters are willing to turn down the volume somewhat. oh, this is a huge ricky mist rather him more than 3 months. and i would like to say like, it's this, i mean, at this moment i feel is that google is info all caught up. it boy, decisions in sri lanka. so off bed next door and people's money didn't,
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should reminders that did that did to dip into our view was watching on p b. s in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with the u. s. president, the israeli prime minister and the iranian nuclear threat when the leaders of the u . s. is, will get together. you can count on an abundance of affection, lots of talk about shared values, mentioned the threat of the raw, requiring a nuclear weapon. and that is where this friendship begins to show some fishers in there, one to one talks earlier. today you as president biden urged israeli prime minister le peed to join other middle east nations in a united front against iraq. analysts say that t ron is rapidly approaching completion of a nuclear weapon. now to ensure that never happens, loppy made it clear that is real reserves the right to use military force 1st. and this is where you see a divergence in israel and america's common course biden. insist that efforts to
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revive the iran nuclear deal must 1st be exhausted diplomacy. he says, must be given another chance to day you and i also discussed the marriage commitment to ensuring a ran never obtains a nuclear weapon. this is a vital security interest of, of israel and united states, and i would add for the rest of the world as well. i continue to believe that diplomacy is the best way to achieve this outcome and will continue to work with his will to counter other threats from iran throughout the region. including support for terrorism, ballistic missile program, the continues and the plus ration of weapons to terrorists and proxies. my casper woods will not stop that mister president, diplomacy we love stockton. the only thing that would stop iran is knowing that the, if they continue to develop their nuclear program,
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the free world will use force. the only way to stop them is to put a credible military threat on the table. i 1st guessed, and i did the former us ambassador to israel. he also served on the national security council during the obama administration. he is now a distinguished fellow at the atlantic council and bastard dan shapiro. was with us tonight. ambassador, it's good to have you with this president biden. he has not given up yet on reviving the iran nuclear deal. we know that israel has always opposed this deal. how important is this? i'm calling you to fisher between israel in the united states. how important is there is nothing new about this disagreement between united states and israel, who agree completely, and it was restated today that iran must never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. so the importance, the fact that iran is a threat to israel grilled to other u. s. partners to the region of course,
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to the us itself is not in disagreement at all. but the question of the other disagreement is the right decision, the means by which we a pursue that. ready object preventing and running to we're open 0 often been disagreements through multiple administrations. what with what is happening now though. ready that these talks, which have been essentially on life support now for many months or reaching an inflection point either they will collapse in the very near future. and if that's the case, iran will be left as a nuclear threshold state. they must basically achieve that at a status with their or in uranium enrichment program, or the deal will be a restored and it will by some time, 678 years before iran could have that capability. but it will also provide ron sanctions, real life revenue, news that it could use to plow many of its other aggressive actions in the region. either way, there needs to be a very serious consultation between the united states and its regional partners.
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she plea israel ah, and on, on what the strategy will be. so actually it's a very good time for president biden to go and talk with his as really a colleagues, even though there is a disagreement. the strategy that they need to pursue going forward needs to be one of those who are conceived together and the best are big. so once you've experienced what you've seen and heard, do you think that there is any chance of rescuing the j. c. p. away i think it's not dead yet. neither side has an incentive at this point to declare those talks dead. but i do think it's on life support. it's been since about february that the essential contours of a deal to return to mutual compliance has been on the table of united states than iran, through the indirect negotiations coordinated by the you have essentially a, a understand what that would look like. and the riots have continued to seek additional concessions. you mean outside the counters of adjacent the rate?
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at 1st they focused for several months on this question of whether or e i r g c should be removed from the foreign terrorist. ready organizations list and present biden's make clear that's not going to happen. you just as a throw into this deal, man, i was out some significant change in iranian be that i havior supporting care. ready so at the moment i doesn't look that likely, but i don't rule out that the iranians could decide, given the economic crisis, they face that they really do want the sanction to. ready leave that the deal promises that they've certainly marketed that to their own people as something they could deliver. i think we will know in the next 2 to 3 months, maybe a little bit longer, whether these talks have any life left in them or not yet. and i want to ask you about iran supporting terrorism just a moment. but let me just ask you, how worried are you or how worried are they in your opinion inside the white house at the j. c. p. away could be torpedoed by a unilateral move by israel against iran. well, israel is a sovereign nation and obviously is able to act in its own self defense. and nobody
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i think in the bind administration undercuts that understanding of the israeli saudi. and indeed, at least if one goes by what is reported in much of the international media. there have already been israeli. sponsor strikes of different kinds or covert action of different kinds inside iran. and i certainly haven't detected from the outside any restraint imposed on israel by the united states. and. ready guarded may even be a way of putting additional pressure in leverage on iran during those negotiations . now a full scale strike against nuclear facilities. that's maybe a different story. it's a kind of thing one ho, up that to close partners like united states. israel would talk about would coordinate about, but those discussions must be held extremely closely. i suspect some of them have happened over the last 24 hours at and you know, it's always better when we're coordinated. but obviously israel will have to make his own decisions as it assesses insecurity in li, june 30 countries took part in
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a u. s. lead meeting on countering hezbollah. i know that the, the bind administration is worried that hezbollah is trying to sabotage efforts to broker a deal over a maritime border dispute between israel and lebanon. now it has bull as leader, is even making threat to want you to take a listen to what the leader set them up if you don't give us what the lebanon end has ballade demand. if you don't allow companies to extract the oil, we all want, god knows what will happen here. we might flip the table on every one of the po, now on empty. ambassador israel says that it has already shot down 3 has bullet drones that were headed towards that gas re in the mediterranean, talked to me about, efforts to stop has below me. this is an area in which israel, the u. s. saudi arabia and the wider gulf and middle east countries, they're all coming together because of this, aren't they? well,
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it's no question that israel has many partners in the air world. certainly those gulf states and many of them did participate in this recent meeting on a counter has balls, strategy, egypt, jordan, many of their moderate states in the region who see has bhalla as exactly what they are. they are a lebanese organization, but they are also in iranian proxy. and iranian agent and iran threw his ball a, a tries to control lebanon. and b, a tried to project threats against israel as his balls even involved with some other conflicts in iraq and yemen. and elsewhere up but this. ringback is bhalla activity related to the offshore gas deposits is really an insane. and it really is a, a great example of how has ball up wraps under iran's influence has really cost the lebanese people an enormous opportunity. and it's doing great damage to lebanon's
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own well being. israel is already are exploiting gas resources in its territory waters that there's no dispute about those drones you've described. you, you mentioned that the israelis recently shot down, we're headed for a israeli gas operations and a completely undisputed waters when i and it's all because i'm a small area of dispute and there's a legitimate negotiation that has to be conducted to decide exactly where to draw the boundary, but until that boundary is drawn and until his ball of course ceases any threats of violence in that area. there are no companies that are going to invest in lebanon's, undisputed gas or resources. so it's, it's done great, great damage to lebanon's own energy self sufficiency in our economy, prospects. meanwhile, israel is prospering with what they have been able to develop in their gas resources. so i, i hope that there will be pressure to put in his bola, from inter, internally, from within lebanon to allow 11 on israel to reach a order agreement, and then allow both countries to exploit their gas resources. if you were advising
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president biden, ahead of his visit to morrow to, to saudi arabia, knowing that he has vowed to make the kingdom a pariah. knowing that he now says he wants to reorient not rupture. the relationship, what would be your advice he is said that from the beginning, you know, he was very critical of saudi arabia and of the crown prince of because of the murder of john jamal for show g, because of some aspects of the saudi conduct of the war and yemen up and at the same time, he a recognize that saudi arabia faced real threats from yemen. iranian sponsored a proxy there who the a, who have fired hundreds of missiles at some 1000000000 targets and saudi arabia. and he has always said he did not want to rupture. he wanted to recalibrate the relationship. and i think that's actually what he's doing. now. i think the main impetus to do the visit now is really about the warning crank. and the fact that to lead an international coalition to push back on rushes,
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an invasion of ukraine require. there's a functional u. s. saudi relationship in that relationship, the united states provides assurances for saudi arabia, security. that's a historic rolled united states as always play and saudi rep idea commits to align itself with u. s. interests, especially when they're challenged by our global rivals, russia and china. and in this context, that means more saudi oil production to bring down prices, increase the byte of sanctions against russia, and make more non russian energy supplies available to european markets. if that core bargain of the us saudi relationships is restored. as stabilized at that actually is a re calibration that then in some ways make it easier to make progress on other issues that are still problematic in relationship human rights, warren yemen and prone to promote saudi normalization with israel. before we run out of time in bathroom, i want to talk a moment about elections in november. we've got mid term elections in the us. we've
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got parliamentary elections in israel. what can biden take home to his domestic audience? what can loppy present to israelis after this visit? but, you know, i don't think presidents go overseas to score a lot of points to politically at home. there's not always a lot of upside to the time spent overseas, especially when in the united states. there's so much focus on domestic challenges from inflationary pressures to gun violence, to the ruling by the supreme court on fortune rights, honorable to just the very deep split in american society. and it's represented by the january 6th insurrection and the now the hearings in the congress on that. so i'm not sure that present biden's scores, a lot of points. obviously there are some constituencies that will be happy to see him. re commit is longstanding a commitment to israel and insecurity. i think he does demonstrate good global leadership, especially on the crisis at the moment, which is the warning crane by engaging. ready with the gulf countries,
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so there's something that he can bring home. but, you know, at the end of the day, elections in the united states will be decided based on how people feel about their, or their lives, their pocketbooks, their safety and, and i think that's really what the focus will be. a little repeat is acting prime minister is also running, of course, in this election in november it's hard to know, and i think president biden has played a very straight simply dealing with him as the current prime minister. he also had a meeting with the opposition leader who we knows for former prime minister netanyahu, but i think it can't hurt prime minister le pete to demonstrate to these re. ready public that he is fully capable and prepared and of conducting is really international relationships, including is most important relationship with united states. but that's obviously something that the israeli public can now see him in that role and way they haven't seen. ready before but it's so far from the actual loading in israel election that's sort of 3 or 4 months from now that i think a date or 2 at the end of the day, the decision will be made by israel. ready based on how they feel about their
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leaders at home. distinguish feller, the binding counsel and former us ambassador to israel, daniel shapiro. ambassador, we appreciate your time and your insights. tonight's good to have you with a thank you. my pleasure. thank you. ah, ukrainian president vladimir zalinski has condemned a deadly russian strike in central ukraine, calling it an open act of terrorism. several russian missile struck the city of the nits up hundreds of kilometers away from the front lines. this footage shows the immediate aftermath local authority say, at least 3 missiles hit, an office block of damage near by residential buildings. police report at least 20 people were killed, including 2, perhaps 3 children. yearly, a 100 people were wounded. many of them are reportedly in serious condition now for
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alleged attacks on civilians like in the need so or in the town of boucher ukrainians. what russia held accountable in the international criminal court. the i c. c. held a conference in the hague today to discuss its approach to suspected russian war crimes, ukrainian investigators, e. u. officials and ministers from over a dozen countries agreed to coordinate their investigations. around 20000 cases are already open. ukraine's president zalinski asked the court to open a special tribunal to prosecute russian leaders. although they got me. so for jurisdictional reasons, the existing judicial institutions cannot bring all the guilty parties to justice. therefore, a special tribunal is needed regarding this crime, russian aggression against ukraine. the tribunal, that will ensure the fair and lawful punishment of those who started this history of disaster and tragedy,
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which has become the biggest war in europe. since the 2nd world war to the meeting with the dutch foreign minister, one of the host of this event says that a special tribunal would be a vital step towards a unified approach to international justice ticklish. just like a climate strategy and a covert strategy. we needs an accountability strategy, a strategy driven by the universal belief that all of us, all of us are protected by law, assuring that all roads lead to justice. now and in the future. and speaking to reporters after that conference, ukraine's prosecutor general in of, in a teeth tova, held up a photograph that appeared to show a child's body as she discussed thursdays airstrike this, again,
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the center of your queen to day to van king people killed by a russian files including 3 children, 52 in jarrett brush missile, including children. and this information of we have every day from one until night till night. to morning. we see more and more facts. fixel's walk rhymes. it's more knowledge than to enter 3000 of the bar celebrating in sherlock good. tonight. after hearing that their president has resigned or getting rid of president, go to buy or reject. coxa was a cor demand of the pro jesters who stormed government buildings earlier this week . they say roderick park sir, is corrupt and they blame him and his family for months of acute shortages in food fuel and medicines. while jack parks are left shalaka on wednesday and sent his
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resignation letter today from single dw many richard hour. he got some 1st hand reactions to the resignation from protesters in colombo . they're celebrating victory. but they say, are jack parks and system along with his prime minister ra neil. they say both have to go is a huge victory based rather here more than 3 months. and i would like to say like, it's this, i mean, at this moment i feel is that a good lesson for all caught up it or decisions? injury lanka, like happy that might be comfortable, it is gone to outside a very happy no. i want. i want my under p, but the beginning new new, new people. as i knew it could all me up. good luck. yeah, we asked you to fighting against a deposited human aviana dealer trying to a kick out dead on any grossinger arnik. sotheby's not even come see him, which ought to be here at the big table now is my colleague and dw correspondence.
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namisha. joyce fall getting the roger boxes out of office mission. i mean it's, i guess it's easier said than done, but it looks like that is what has happened. it's been the key demand of these protesters. is this the victory though that they were seeking? well, definitely one of the big, big creve almost a cat in call of these protests have been called go to gord, referring to godaddy roger pizza. but protesters out there celebrating tonight are still saying this is far from over. like the heard they want to run ill, victrum a thing, it was the acting precedent to also rule and they wanted the entire leadership to be shaken up. because the thing to remember here is that the root of d is what ease these protests is not gone. the economic crisis persists and the demands have been escalating. we saw my hinder arch bucks of them down as prime minister. we've now seen his got the go as well, for the large boxes are gone, a big demand. but now the asking for the from the thing it
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a go and they don't really trust other major politicians either. so where's his headed in terms of who was going to eventually sit in the president's chair? well, in the immediate future, it is likely to be the current acting president. the parliament has said that they will be electing a new president on july 20th, so that the react that if it is made possible, the donnelly, because the recommend get step thin for at least a 30 day period. he will have to prove that this confidence. but the people want him to go, he seen as a staunch of the dodge. but for now he is a political, a big wig and sri lanka. his. he was our 1st prime minister almost 3 decades ago. but in the last 2 months, he has not managed to turn around his impression. he also have sergeant diploma garza who is the leader of the opposition right now. who has said that he will throw in his hat in the ring as well. but once again, he doesn't have those many parliamentarians in and again he's not seeing the kind of wide popular support one. and this is mainly because most protest to say that
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the entire leadership needs to be shaken out in. do you think the mission that the purchases are going to give run the 30 days the you know, to, to do anything or are they going to approach just to get him out to? well, at least when it comes to the beginning of these negotiations, we have seen that john olivia from a think it has a handle on the finance board for you. or he may be able to get the conversation going. the thumb progress may still be made, but protest a definitely likely to continue even tonight to be sure we heard john of ronald next of and shirley for even if he gets to stay a few days, it looks like they're going to demand that he goes away as soon as possible as well, and they're not backing off. and we know with me, as you said, you know, the source of all this turmoil is not going away. the country is bankrupt, there's no lender inside the i m f for example. it's not opening it store right now to talk at all about
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a lender being available for sure longer. what could be the way out of this crisis in? well, unfortunately, political stability will be crucial. and i say unfortunately because these protestors want bacon on the crisis to be over, but political stability fee, it seems very far out of reach if they're going to keep protesting for everybody who's coming into bar to step down the i am earlier today has said that they are willing to continue negotiations. we have the g 7 offering help. india has offered help. sheila guys restructuring of debt with china. they talking about cheaper oil from russia. but all of these a stop gap measure is it is in, i mean it's, it's so close to india just geographically, isn't it? in india's interest for sure. lanka to have political stability. i mean, nobody wants to have allowed unruly neighbor. right. well, definitely and once again to day, once the designation was announced, india came out and put out a statement once again that it stands by the people of sri lanka. and it will support any kind of
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a peaceful transition of part as well. but india has also had historic days with all these leaders and will be careful about how exactly it woods, any criticism. now the protesters see that the logic but south have sorted out the country that be a good job that they have joined a financial boss of the country and it's future. but they did enjoy from the support until very recently, the leader of the opposition actually last dramatically in the last elections. so clearly who is going to be the front on it is the dual question, which no new book an answer either, but i'm so glad that you're here, that you could talk with us tonight. it's great being able to get your valuable insights, helping us understand because it is it still explosive and tomorrow everything could be different than it is denied much. we appreciate it. thank you. well, the day is almost done, the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter either at the w news. you can follow me on twitter at brent gov tv and remember, whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. so you've been
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