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dot com. ah, he was president biden's, his america's commitment to israel is bone deep. but that doesn't mean these 2 allies always see eye to eye, especially when it comes to the nuclear threat from iran. despite the damage done to the iran nuclear deal by his predecessor, and you as president biden, is still willing to give diplomacy a chance when it comes to iran, the bomb and diplomacy. israel is clear, no chance. i'm broke off in berlin. this is the day. ah, you and i also discussed the marriage amendment to ensuring a rand never obtained a nuclear weapon. if they continue to develop their nuclear program, will continue to work or digital to counter other threats from ran throughout the
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region. the free world will use force. i continue to believe that the pharmacy is the best way to achieve this outcome. words will not stop, but we are not going away from. the only way to stop them is to put a credible military threat on the table. also coming up, the crisis ensure longer, the president has fled the country in submitted his resignation. one reason why protesters are willing to turn down the volume somewhat. did a huge ricky missed rather here more than 3 months. and i would like to say like, it's this, i mean, at this moment i feel is that a good lesson for all caught up it boy, decisions, injury lanka. so off better next door and people's money. they should remind this, there, did they did it to our view was watching on p
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b. s in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with the u. s. president, the israeli prime minister and the iranian nuclear threat. when the leaders of the us in is we'll get together, you can count on an abundance of affection, lots of talk about shared values, mentioned the threat of iran acquiring a nuclear weapon. and that is where this friendship begins to show some fishers in there, one to one, talked earlier today he was president biden urged israeli prime minister le pete to join other middle east nations in a united front against the rog. analysts say that t ron is rapidly approaching completion of a nuclear weapon. now to ensure that never happens lap he'd made it clear that is real reserves the right to use military force 1st. and this is where you see a divergence in israel and america's common course. biden insist that efforts to revive the iran nuclear deal must 1st be exhausted diplomacy. he says,
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must be given another chance to day. you and i also discussed the marriage commitment to ensuring a ran never obtains a nuclear weapon. this is a vital security injures to both israel and united states, and i would add for the rest of the world as well. i continue to believe that diplomacy is the best way to achieve this outcome and will continue to work or israel to counter other threats from a ran throughout the region, including support for terrorism, ballistic missile program, the continues and the prefer ation of weapons to terrorists and proxies, michaela woods will not stop that mister president, diplomacy we love stockton. the only thing that was thought by ron is knowing that the, if they continue to develop their nuclear program, the free world will use force. the only way to stop
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them is to put a credible military threat on the table. i 1st guess, united the former us ambassador to israel. he also served on the national security council during the obama administration. he is now a distinguished fellow at the atlantic council. ambassador dan shapiro was with his deny, ambassador, it's good to have you with this president biden. he has not given up yet on reviving the iran nuclear deal. we know that israel has always opposed this deal, and how important is this? i'm calling it a fisher between israel in the united states. how important is there is nothing new about this disagreement between united states and israel, who agree completely. and it was restated today that iran must never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. so the importance, the fact that iran is a threat to israel grilled to other u. s. partners to the region of course, to the us itself is not in disagreement at all. but the question of the other
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disagreement is the right decision, the means by which we a pursue that objective of preventing and wanting to we're open 0 often been disagreements through multiple administrations. what with what is happening now though. ready that these talked which have been essentially on life support now for many months or reaching an inflection point either they will collapse in the very near future. and if that's the case, iran will be left as a nuclear threshold state. they must basically achieve that at a status with their or in uranium enrichment program, or the deal will be a restored and it will by some time, 678 years before iran could have that capability, but will also provide ron sanctions, real life revenue, news that he could use to plow many of its other aggressive actions in the region. either way, there needs to be a very serious consultation between the united states and its regional partners. she plea israel ah, and on, on what the strategy will be. so actually it's
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a very good time for president biden to go and talk with his as really a colleagues, even though there is a disagreement. the strategy that they need to pursue going forward needs to be one of the well conceived together. and the best are being so once you've experienced what you've seen and heard, do you think that there is any chance of rescuing the j. c. p. away i think it's not dead yet. neither side has an incentive at this point to declare those talks dead. but i do think it's on life support. it's been since about february that the essential contours of a deal to return to mutual compliance has been on the table a united states than iran, through the indirect negotiations coordinated by the you have essentially a, a understand what that would look like. and the riots have continued to seek additional concessions. you mean outside the counters of adjacent the rate at 1st stay focused for several months on this question of whether or
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e i r g c should be removed from the foreign terrorist organizations list and present biden's make clear that's not going to happen just as a throw into this deal, not without some significant change in iranian be that i havior supporting care. ready so at the moment it doesn't look that likely, but i don't rule out that the iranians who decide, given the economic crisis, they faced that they really do want the sanction to. ready leave that the deal promises that they've certainly marketed that to their own people as something they could deliver. i think we will know in the next 2 to 3 months, maybe a little bit longer, whether these talks have any life left in them or not. yeah, and i would ask you about iran supporting terrorism just a moment, but let me just ask you, how worried are you or how worried are they in your opinion inside the white house at the j. c p. a way could be torpedoed by a unilateral move by israel against iran. well, israel is a sovereign nation and obviously is able to act in its own self defense. and nobody i think in the bind administration undercuts that understanding of the
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israeli saudi. and indeed, at least if one goes by what is reported in much of the international media. there have already been israeli. sponsor strikes of different kinds or covert action of different kinds a inside iran. and i certainly haven't detected from the outside any restraint imposed on israel by the united states. and. ready guarded may even be a way of putting additional pressure and leverage on iran during those negotiations . now, a full scale strike against nuclear facilities. that's maybe a different story. it's a kind of thing one. hold up that to close partners like united states. israel would talk about would coordinate about, but those discussions must be held extremely closely. i suspect some of them have happened over the last 24 hours at and you know, it's always better when we're coordinated. but obviously israel will have to make its own decisions as it assesses insecurity. in late june 30 countries took part in a u. s. lead meeting on countering hezbollah. i know that the,
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the bind administration is worried that hezbollah is trying to sabotage efforts to broker a deal over a maritime border dispute between israel and lebanon. now it has bull as leader, is even making threat to want you to take a listen to what the leader set them up if you don't give us what the lebanon end has ballade demand. if you don't allow companies to extract the oil, we all want, god knows what will happen here. we might flip the table on every one of them. ambassador israel says that it has already shot down 3 has bullet drones that we're headed towards that gas re in the mediterranean. it talk to me about efforts to stop has below me. this is an area in which israel, the u. s. saudi arabia and the wider gulf and middle east countries, they're all coming together because of this, aren't they? well, it's no question that israel has many partners in the air world. certainly those
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gulf states and many of them did participate in this recent meeting on the counter has ball strategy, egypt, jordan, many of their moderate states in the region who see has bhalla as exactly what they are. they are a lebanese organization, but they are also in iranian proxy, and iranian agent and iran through his ball a, a tries to control lebanon, and b tried to project threats against israel as his balls even involved with some other conflicts in iraq and yemen and elsewhere up but this. ringback is viola activity related to the offshore gas deposits is really an insane. and it really is a, a great example of how has ball up wraps under iran's influence has really cost the lebanese people an enormous opportunity. and it's doing great damage to lebanon's own well being. israel is already are exploiting gas resources in its
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territorial waters that there's no dispute about those drones you've described. you . you mentioned that the israelis recently shot down, we're headed for a israeli gas operations and a completely undisputed waters when i and it's all because i'm a small area of dispute and there's a legitimate negotiation that has to be conducted to decide exactly where to draw the boundary, but until that boundary is drawn and until his ball of course ceases any threats of violence in that area. there are no companies that are going to invest in lebanon's, undisputed gas or resources. so it's, it's done great, great damage to lebanon's own energy self sufficiency in our economy, prospects. meanwhile, israel is prospering with what they have been able to develop in their gas resources. so i, i hope that there will be pressure to put in his bola, from inter, internally, from within lebanon to allow 11 on israel to reach order agreement, and then allow both countries to exploit their gas resources. if you were advising president biden, ahead of his visit to morrow to, to saudi arabia,
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knowing that he has vowed to make the kingdom a pariah. knowing that he now says he wants to reorient not rupture. the relationship, what would be your advice he is said that from the beginning, you know, he was very critical of saudi arabia and of the crown prince of because of the murder of john jamal shoji. because of some aspects of the saudi conduct of the war . and yemen up, and at the same time, he a recognized that saudi arabia faced real threats from yemen. iranian sponsored a proxy there, the of who have fired hundreds of missiles at some 1000000000 targets and saudi arabia. and he has always said he did not want to rupture. he wanted to recalibrate the relationship. and i think that's actually what he's doing. now. i think the main impetus to do the visit now is really about the warning crank and the fact that to lead an international coalition to push back on rushes, an invasion of ukraine required. there's a functional
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u. s. saudi relationship in that relationship, the united states provides assurances for saudi arabia, security. that's a historic rolled united states as always played, and saudi arabia commits to align itself with u. s. interests, especially when they're challenged by our global rivals, russia, in china. and in this context, that means more saudi oil production to bring down prices, increase the byte of sanctions against russia, and make more non russian energy supplies available to european markets. if that core bargain of the u. s. saudi relationships is restored and has stabilized at that actually is a re calibration that then in some ways make it easier to make progress on other issues that are still problematic in the relationship human rights are. ready in yemen and primed to promote saudi normalization with israel before we renounce, jaime better. i want to talk a moment about elections in november. we've got mid term elections in the us. we've got parliamentary elections in israel. why can biden take home to his domestic
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audience? what can repeat, present to his re lease after this visit? but, you know, i don't think presidents go overseas to score a lot of points to politically at home. there's not always a lot of upside to the time spent overseas, especially when in the united states. there's so much focus on domestic challenges from inflationary pressures to gun violence, to the ruling by the supreme court on fortune rights intervals to just the very deep split in american society. and it's represented by the january 6th insurrection and the now the hearings in the congress on that. so i'm not sure that present biden's scores, a lot of points. obviously there are some constituencies that will be happy to see him. re commit is longstanding a commitment to israel and insecurity. i think he does demonstrate good global leadership, especially on the crisis at the moment, which is the warning crane by engaging. ready with the gulf countries, so there's something that he can bring home. but, you know, at the end of the day,
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elections in the united states will be decided based on how people feel about their, or their lives, their pocketbooks, their safety and, and i think that's really what the focus will be producer will repeat, is acting prime minister is also running, of course, in this election in november it's hard to know and i think president biden has played a very straight simply dealing with him as the current prime minister. he also had a meeting with the opposition leader who we knows for former prime minister netanyahu, but i think it can't hurt prime minister le pete to demonstrate to these re. ready public that he is fully capable and prepared and of conducting is really international relationships, including is most important relationship with united states. but that's obviously something that the israeli public can now see him in that role and way they haven't seen. ready before but it's so far from the actual loading in israel election that's sort of 3 or 4 months from now that i think a date or 2 at the end of the day, the decision will be made by israel. ready based on how they feel about their leaders at home. distinguish feller,
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the binding counsel and former us ambassador to israel, daniel shapiro. ambassador, we appreciate your time and your insights tonight is good to have you with a thank you. my pleasure. thank you. ah, ukrainian president vladimir zalinski has condemned a deadly russian strike in central ukraine, calling it an open act of terrorism. several russian missile struck the city of the nits up hundreds of kilometers away from the front lines. this footage shows the immediate aftermath local authority say, at least 3 missiles hit, an office block of damage near by residential buildings. police report at least 20 people were killed, including 2, perhaps 3 children. yearly, a 100 people were wounded. many of them are reportedly in serious condition now for alleged attacks on civilians like in the need so or in the town of boucher
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ukrainians. what russia held accountable in the international criminal court. the i c. c. held a conference in the hague today to discuss its approach to suspected russian war crimes, ukrainian investigators, e. u. officials and ministers from over a dozen countries agreed to coordinate their investigations around $20000.00 cases are already opened. ukraine's president zalinski asked the court to open a special tribunal to prosecute russian leaders. i wa, yeah, me. so for jurisdictional reasons, the existing judicial institutions cannot bring all the guilty parties to justice. therefore, a special tribunal is needed regarding this crime russian aggression against ukraine. the tribunal, that will ensure the fair and lawful punishment of those who started this history of disaster and tragedy, which has become the biggest war in europe since the 2nd world war 2. meaning,
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with the dutch foreign minister, one of the host of this event says that a special tribunal would be a vital step towards a unified approach to international justice ticklish. just like a climate strategy and a covert strategy. we needs an accountability strategy. a strategy driven by the universal belief that all of us, all of us are protected by law ensuring that all roads lead to justice. now and in future. and speaking to reporters after that conference, ukraine's prosecutor general even of antic teeth, tova, held up a photograph that appeared to show a child's body as she discussed thursdays airstrike this again, the center of your queen to day to than king people killed by russian sales
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include in 3 children, 52 in jarrett brush missile, including children and this information we have every day from one until night till night. to morning. lee is seeing more and more facts fixed. so for crimes, it's more knowledge than to enter $3000.00. people are celebrating in sherlock good tonight, after hearing that their president has resigned or getting rid of president go to buy our budget. coxa was a cor demand of the pro jesters who stormed government buildings earlier this week . they say roderick park so is corrupt and they blame him and his family for months of acute shortage is in food fuel and medicines. why jack parks are left shalaka on wednesday and sent his resignation letter today from single
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dw madeira to a door. he got some 1st hand reactions to the resignation from protesters in colombo. they're celebrating victory. but they say, are jack parks and system along with his prime minister ra neil. they say both have to go is a huge victory based rather here more than 3 months. and i would like to say like, it's this, i mean, at this moment i feel is that a good lesson for all caught up at auditions inter lanka like happy that might be comfortable. it has gone to outside. i very happy. no, i want i want my time to be, but the beginning new new new people are new. it. good. all me up. good luck. yeah, yes. the dividing against the law deposited human aviana still trying to a kick out dead on any grossinger or any salad. he's not even coming which ought to be here at the big table now is my colleague and dw correspondence. namisha. joyce fall getting the roger boxes out of office mission. i mean it's,
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i guess it's easier said than done, but it looks like that is what has happened. it's been the key demand of these protesters. is this the victory though that they were seeking? well, it's definitely one of the big retrieve almost a cat and all of these protests have been called go to gord, referring to got a bit artifact, sir. but protesters out there celebrating tonight are still saying this is far from over. like the heard they want to run ill victrum, i think it was the acting precedent to also rule and they wanted the entire leadership to be shaken up. because the thing to remember here is that the root of d is what is these protests is not gone, the economic crisis persists and the demands have been escalating the saw, my hinder arch bucks of them down. as my minister, we've now seen his got the go as well for the large boxes are gone, a big demand. but now the asking for the from the thing it a go and they don't really trust other major politicians either. so where's his
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head, in terms of who was going to eventually sit in the president's chair? well, in the immediate future, it is likely to be the current acting president. the parliament has said that they will be electing a new president on july 20th. so that of the react that if it is made possible, the donnelly, because that are going to thing, get stepped thin for at least a 30 day period. he will have to prove that this confidence. but the people want him to go. he seen as a staunch of the dodge, but for now he is a political, a big wig in sri lanka, his. he was a 1st prime minister almost 3 decades ago. but in the last 2 months, he has not managed to turn around his impression. he also have sergeant to plan with arthur, who is the leader of the opposition right now, who has said that he will throw in his hat in the ring as well. but once again, he doesn't have those many parliamentarians in and again he's not seeing the kind of wide popular support one. and this is mainly because most protest to say that the entire leadership needs to be shaken out in. do you think the mission that the
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purchases are going to give run the 30 days, you know, to, to do anything or are they going to approach just to get him out to? well, at least when it comes to the beginning of these negotiations, we have seen that john olympic trauma think it has a handle on the finance board for you. or he may be able to get the conversation going. the thumb progress may still be made, but protests a definitely likely to continue even tonight to be sure we heard chance of ronald next of and shirley for even if he gets to stay a few days, it looks like they're going to demand that he goes away as soon as possible as well, and they're not backing off. and we know of me, as you said, you know, the source of all this turmoil is not going away. the country is bankrupt. there's no lender inside the i m f for example. it's not opening it store right now to talk at all about a lender being available for sure longer. what can be the way out of this crisis in?
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well, unfortunately, political stability will be crucial and i say unfortunately because these protesters won't be economic crisis to be over, but political stability field seems very far out of reach if they're going to keep protesting for everybody who's coming into bar to step down the i am earlier today has said that they are willing to continue negotiations. we have the g 7 offering help. india has offered help. she long as restructuring the debt with china. they're talking about cheaper oil from russia. but all of these a stop gap measure is it is in, i mean it's, it's so close to india just geographically, isn't it? in india's interest for sri lanka to have political stability. i mean, nobody wants to have allowed unruly neighbor. right? well definitely and once again to day, once the designation was announced, india came out and put out a statement once again that it stands by the people of sheila anchor. and it will support any kind of a peaceful transition of thought as well. but india has also had historic dive with
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all these leaders and really be careful about how exactly woods, any criticism. now the protesters see that the logic but south have sorted out the country that being a good job that they have joined the financial boss of the country and it's future . but they did enjoy from the support until very recently the needle. the opposition actually lost dramatically in the last selections. so clearly who is going to be the front on it is to do a question which no, ne book an answer either, but i'm so glad that you're here, that you could talk with us tonight. it's great being able to get your valuable insights, helping us understand because it is, it's still explosive and tomorrow everything could be different than it is denied much. we appreciate it. thank you. well, the day is almost done, the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter either at the w nears . you can follow me on twitter if brent got tv and remember, whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day with
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