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oh, planet idea, the idea of flying cities isn't really that utopian from a cosmic perspective. re i said, if i told an astronaut about it, my he tell me, but we're already flying. or even in thomas, sarah centers are wax, explore the pressing issues of all times, reflecting on how we can live most sustainable lives and use our results is most sparingly. he's also interested in alternative means of travel and how aunts can inspire us to think outside the box. and it'll be no. right if you go i know. oh my god.

the aunt in tinian performance and installation artist takes an interdisciplinary approach to his work and regularly cooperates with scientific research institutions . like when he launched this experiment in bolivia to test out the possibilities of emissions free air travel. ah, this is sarah santo's, berlin studio, where he plans and prepares his many projects ah. m. santa santa has always been fascinated by the interplay between arts and science. he studied art and architecture in argentina and then attended frankfurt state or schuler art school on a scholarship. he also took part in a nasa research project. he's become an internationally sought after artist, in part because his work ponders some of the most urgent questions we face to day,

such as, how can we shape our future and how much responsibility to we carry for our actions . your role can handle myself in a 4 way who is tomas at a signal. you might as well ask me about the sum of different parks go home, or what makes some one the course on they are or you that, that will, that life. i have the feeling we as humans, cuz hennessy ourselves as extraordinary political as somehow superior to other specie law. how, but in reality, we struggle to afford real relationships with others, macy's autism busy, but real relationships founded on solidarity fully that are essential to our progress. but it is one micro hinden santa center began experimenting with the idea of floating cities in 2011. that year he showcased his cloud cities project to berlin's hamburger bond health gallery. this project, like so many others, questioned the way we live as a society envisioned new forms of human co existence and community. his

berlin show featured a network of cloud like olds that visitors could climb into. what would it be night to inhabit such a floating city to live and work san ah, what masses to sorry, seno is that we realised everything is interconnected. that way just palms of a greater home. mm. busy synthesis good, does he have the feeling that all the attention afforded to him? all his success and popularity goes hand in hand with a certain responsibility. come with the view of comic though wilco basically they call tulip aloud. if inside a killer postalia, i think responsibility can mean confronting certain problems,

had that americans. yeah. cuz they, we faced pressing issues like global warming for and then equality common klent. i mean, don't know what i li gola this. you were lucky it, but also the extinction of certain species and people dying on this planet. elbows . oh, my north, i'm in florida, delaware, but it's okay. i don't think it is enough. is each individual answers to these issues. i found out of a new allowed follow that we need global, all encompassing answers. we cast as he we pull up. that's why i'm always looking to forge new alliances. adopt new perspectives and take new steps that can bring about the changes our planet desperately needs set up where you are. look, i'm nuclear. clinton was at the bill in autumn, 2018 santa saint o showcased his on an installation at paris is played to tokyo, contemporary art venue. it focused on the importance of ad and how we as a species, a polluting this vital element

ah santa seno set up 76, spider webs to make the air more tangible as it were. spiders have inhabited the us the hundreds of millions of years and ease air to spin that into cup webs. your kristen would have been going bluff way. left wider webs were a starting point. villa onion, i have been fascinated by them for a very long time. dr. is that they're connected to the spider, so they are a part of their body to not on, you know, lighter can only since a small bug is near because of the vibrations it sends through the web. today isn't roberson data without the webinar, but it could neither feel nor see it's trained in all the way i get what i see it on. most spiders that make webs are blind from a different super, by creating a web, they're essentially creating their own sensory ability. villa had roughly allowing

them to feel the world and other species around them. with the installation translated, the vibrations of spite as movements and to audio signals creating a kind of a rack, nit symphony. we mean . ready here, tiny dust particles attract and also transformed into sounds. the more people pass through this room, the more the particles world around the spy does register these movements and sounds, creating a form of interaction between them and the visitors in key aah! and proceed. go at alex as an article le taylor. yes i was,

it started with my obsession with spider when as him, so we set out making all kinds of them makena corner lead technique. we also invented a machine together with the technical university of darmstadt, k. they brought my idea to life that i really like the basically the machine uses laser signals to weave intricate, well, it's all the article 3, dallas will complete us. oh, i think they went, oh, i mean if we were centers that got many academics interested in the classroom giving up until then lucas and nobody had managed to create such a detailed map of spiderwebs and was aligned to really my team. and so i got invited by the massachusetts institute of technology and max planck institute, or get into studies spiderwebs and their surroundings. we to better understand these green. sure. did i think that anya, but at that i'm better than that. if i'm been nathaniel ooh,

to us on angie's right, along with vitus and spy to web st recently is they fate an important role in his are told us was exactly fascinated him about them. and when did this fascination starts us out on? yes. or to call me says that i will have to come in here. what will jose you work with spiders? i always say no. if the spider's work with me middle age has, they've been here for more than 200000000 years. and so we can only learn from them, not the other way around. my work is almost anthropological, an attempt to reconstruct today's image of what it means to be humanly this collection of bacteria and other inhabitants. and i'm trying to redefine our relationship to those with whom we share the planet on it and all together with natural scientists. santa seno has set up his own lab in his studio in berlin to study spiders and bad behavior. mm hm. it's joyce of me personally, 3 o'clock and day. what strikes me at my studio is that many people still suffer

from a ragged phobia. this is a terrible fear of spiders lender in toil. oh, sapp window came last. we tend to, when people visit the studio and realize that it's largely populated by spiders and spiderweb has always say, many of them grow uncomfortable for these comfort. ah ah, him wish to know? sorry if we kept puppies or kittens here, people would say, oh, what pretty kitty i think don't they don't usually do that when they see spiders to minister yet, spiders are very different. the less, you must aim, not only to differentiate between the various species, but to see what unites spider and what separates them from one another, like with a mother to discover the co relationships and synergies between species. he could buy something when he come into one of the spider nets have a special symbolism because you see all these connections. these threads which go

from one side to the other. lean. yep, i left another route. so if you ask me, what fascinates me most about spiders, it's the special beauty of their web. no, as you're some way we have mm . in his installation which take up entire rims. santa santa continually plays with the patterns and shapes found in his spite as website visitors can even enter into a huge web and experience the weld from a spider's perspective which i la soda. no, nope. nope. inside. okay, with many of my work supers, i'm not thinking about the speculator toyota. i'm also not thinking about the outside world, which makes us feel foreign or different. oh, okay. with these workers i'm trying to create something all encompassing for when to visit. so that's why i like to work with really large surfaces. anderson, if you move around on one side of this, well, all the people on the other side move to in local,

mcafee. when i move around visual i cause vibrations which influenced the space journey learned i me and the spiders respond bishop. oh, well the other for maybe this will let us find a new way of communicating with one another. he knew it. my work is about creating these kinds of connection is and goal product, okay. it's not just about seeing what's around us, hasn't exit. luckily, i'm interested in interactions and things on which is on a variety of levels and with different groups of people. oh little boy came to know what can we learn about ourselves from working with other species? and does this change the way we deal with one another? sara center doesn't aim to definitively own says such questions. rather he uses his arts to get people thinking. in his work algorithms, visitors enter an interactive network, they see and feel the vibrations triggered by themselves and others

think when he employees, many different disciplines in his arts, astrophysics, form, engineering, biology. he even explores musical composition with the help of spiders. so why is this kind of interdisciplinary works so important to handle forecast on important. talked about a few things that connects young discipline nadia commodities. though we put it out and told him, well, because it keeps opening up new world. so when you only look at a phenomenon from one perspective, you're missing out on all the other perspective, hilton, me either the other ways of syncing reality or thinking about it is that it seems to me that these days, we often forget about these other realities. so hold to prompt people to change that perspective and encourage dialogue. santa center always presents the results of his exchanges with natural scientists and experts from a variety of disciplines. he wants aunt lovers to be open to and engage with

a broad spectrum of ideas. ready ready ah one that is captured santos in his imagination is humans long held fascination with flying in frenulum aladdin. in our time, the dream of flight has turned into a nightmare. the reforming that's due to the way we fly. does this what about over the pattern over flying is a total disaster because we're reliant on fossil fuels, on lithium, so on batteries or other kinds of raw materials expect to reach dr. bonnie, on their extraction, endangers the survival of many species. iq everybody's again going down before we need to find new ways of making the notion of flight a possible dream, a go read north lane. then we'll look when i'm putting this when you for years santa seno has been experimenting with flying arrow solis sculptures that

a variety of locations around the globe. these free floating sculptures on lifted only by the sun and carried only by the wind and enable flight without the consumption of fossil fuel. a radical concept ah, this is how thomas said, i say no, started to become interested in the possibilities of a new age. one he calls heiress, seen the aerial iraq. ah listen, think they must have propelled hill. i bulgaria, i think the term that best describes the era we're living in now is the capitalist . i don't see nicole the age of ramp and capitalism, but honestly, they really call the era seen as an epoch of home an age which is radically

different from the cabin holocene. hey good. i think i'm into the thin die. ah, capital zeno it doesn't toilet was like everything that changes our habit them but not the climate claim helps to usher in a new era rouge. one, we call the arrow seem a policy got an aerial age. it was a little, an era in which we demonstrate awareness of one another and of the environment and work together to invent new rituals and new customs to create this iraq or to read . and i book a whole d'orsay steender thomas said, i say knows era's seen project requires a radical re thing, canal pot dwindling natural resources, rising emissions, climate change on the extinction of many species or destroying the very basis of all life on us. but error seen places are not human beings at the center of things protecting, not polluting. the element that keeps us alive is its main goal. a way of making

amends to mother ref. while that may sound like a utopian ideal, santa seno and his team have already proven that some of their ideas work in the real world. in argentina, the iris seen foundation team has already set several world records. among them, the 1st mand fully sola free flight with a hot air balloon. it reached a height of 272 meters covered 1.7 kilometers, and was ab owen for over an hour. the team's next goal is to be able to transport several people at once, powered only by the sun's ultraviolet race and fulfilling the dream of emissions free air travel, conversely runs unassailable food when these sculptures rise up, the 1st thing people say is that how can that be it's mesmerizing a magical moment. he put her, but suddenly the sculpture turn and there's something on it that was written by

another person who is gay. so me, it's like an onion. the more layers you peel away, but his, the more questions arise as to how these things appear. so we're going to go with colin. deena gomez to me. we've just got back from argentina. winnable. we were working a lot with indigenous communities there. clam when we for this, they have taken a clear stand against the colonial processes endangering their environment and out . i me so that it is if there is lithium mining going on in their territory i, she lay argentina, sheila and bolivia border, the area where this so called white gold as being mind. he said, okay, but i thought i don't and for every ton of lithium, we know that 2000000 leaders of water are required. tesla condos, there are $71.00 kilos of lithium and one test la wellness. again, this is an area already plagued by drought. as i was accidentally don't know if we start to excavate lithium to satisfy the consumerism of today's capitalistic

society and they go every one who lives on the edge of the cellar. the salt flat like it will die allotted. he, along with the animals and the vegetation, there hid the communities who live there will be forced to leave. it was a uniform i escal wasn't but in all, that's why we're asking, how can we change our habits? look so that it doesn't lead to climate change last october, it requires us what kind of habits and rhythms does the planet desperately require to regain its equilibrium for? can you go out of the pathetic ok, we can't wait for every one to agree. i go through with air travel will have to be very different in the future. a locally wireless in the lighting for lighting to allocate. alco nia. santa centers project has become a global movement artists, scientists, designers, and activists have joined the iris seen foundation that he set up a community has grown up. it's one comes together and engages in making

a dialogue. ah lincoln, the best that it can which will moment. okay, i like the thought of a community that works like a collective i some work and l o for. that's why we have established to foundational filia. one of them is called arachne ophelia. lasagna is elected. unlike arachne fopes, it's members or friends to spiders and their webs could have been, it is a non profit organization that is working to save certain ecosystems steamers. and it is a kind of community of friends that also exists beyond the studio tomasetti santa latoya. what history of this community is researching, how we can ensure the long term existence of certain ecosystems and life forms know that only there is a look where it'll say no. the 2nd community that has sprung up out of the studio

is called arrow seen. but i mean this to consists of people working in the studio as well as an ever growing impassioned community of people outside who are pursuing it as a hobby. they are people who believe that we can change our way of life and not just by changing individual mobility, led by founding a movement for change, public. i'm you, santa center and the era scene community have developed an explorer in collaboration with mit and the red cross. it enables anyone to build a floating explorer sculpture and calculate its flight path and flight duration via esl software. each flight gathers data about air quality, temperature, humidity, and pressure, which is fed back into the software, giving us more and more information about our planet. and what said a center calls, it's highways in the sky. like the jet stream, for instance. ever seen is an open invitation to everyone who is fighting for if to

free a fossil fuels and dreaming of a new kind of boundless, borderless nobility. santa centers slogan is from home a sap eons to whom i flew tantalus. oh, glad of balloon took over me. martin always means an art going dialogue or in exchange grown. and i, for example, the art involving the spiders and spiders was won't. i don't know if al, yeah, we have to form new alliances and new ways of working to understand our world joy. the categories that exists today tend to separate us from one another rather than to united scenic wortha capacity. that it seems to me that art can help us in this process for what they think art has this ability, this generosity, or this innocence is that the people to say no in art, you continue to search with child like innocence and noise. and it seems to me that that is exactly what can help us to see the world with other eyes, for a fee and a set of fennel is continually venturing out with childlike curiosity into the

world's limits. he can better understand our planet and our cosmos will happily. oh, oh lord, given his project event horizon has taken him to the goonies, salt flats. in bolivia, the artist is fascinated by the way the horizon quite literally dissolves. with in the early hours of the morning, a very thin layer of water vapor hovers above the surface of the flats. and for just a few moments, the horizon looks as if it has been erased. the surface of the earth forms a giant mira of the universe that surrounds us. it's a fascinating meditative phenomenon. you can even see reflections of light emitted

by the lodge magdalana clouds and neighboring universe 163000 light years away. oh. that fixture solution to retraction amount, the future is a central significant move. my plans for the future are to continue working as we have done recently. so day life. and at the same time, to increasingly question the logistics of the art industry, the transport of artwork and my own mobility position, uniform and to consider alternative ways for us artists to be present as well if, if, if we become conscious of our planet and its atmosphere then we should also start to show solidarity with all of the others on board, the co passengers in our world. blended. we need to consider how we can continue this journey together and we'll talk to theater. ah, me to last set

a santo's work is opening our eyes to what's going on here and now it's so so in, in patiently engage with burning questions about our future here for doorknob when a brown door, if it, oh, can i hope that the balloon that lifted off with 2 passengers and who he province will soon be able to carry 3 or 4 people out. i will send you almost. i will see him. and if we can already fly at an altitude of up to 272 meters for almost 2 hours. but then i hope that in the future you'll be able to travel to interview me from colombia, for example, without your having to take a plane, said the lesson, i don't know, but the journey is the destination that the journey we will often lose our way on this journey up, but we will continue on with enthusiasm and hope according to safley. it bonanza. ah

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