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a speed of 76000 miles an hour, a planet idea. the idea of flying cities isn't really that utopian from a cosmic perspective. re i said if i told an astronaut about it, my he tell me what we are already flying or b. ready a tomasetti centers are wax, explore the pressing issues of our times, reflecting on how we can live more sustainable lives and use our results is most sparingly. he's also interested in alternative means of travel, and how arts can inspire us to think outside the box. and living, no. right, if you go i know,
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oh my god with the argent tinian performance and installation artist takes an interdisciplinary approach to his work and regularly cooperates with scientific research institutions. like when he launched this experiment in bolivia to test out the possibilities of emissions free air travel. ah, this is sarah se knows berlin studio where he plans and prepares his many projects . ah, ah, said his dino has always been fascinated by the interplay between arts and science . he studied art and architecture in argentina and then attended frankfurt state or schuler art school on a scholarship. he also took part in a nasa research project. he's become an internationally sought after artist,
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in part because his work ponders some of the most urgent questions we face to day, such as how can we shape our future and how much responsibility to we carry for our actions. role kinetic to less hello center for who is thomas said i signal you might as well ask me about the sum of different parts go home or what makes some on the course and they are or you that will, that life. i have the feeling we as humans, cuz hennessy ourselves as extraordinary political as somehow superior to other species ala how, but in reality, we struggle to afford real relationships with others, macy's autism busy, but real relationships founded on solidarity fully that are essential to our progress. but as this one micro hinden santa center began experimenting with the idea of floating cities in 2011. that year he showcased his cloud cities project to berlin's hamburger bond horse gallery. this pro,
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act like so many others, questioned the way we live as a society and envisioned new forms of human co existence and community. his berlin show featured a network of cloud like olds that visitors could climb into. what would it be night to inhabit such a floating city? to live and work, sam? ah, what matters to cyrus center is that we realised everything is interconnected. that way. just parts of a greater home blue synthesis. good. does he have the feeling that all the attention afforded to him all his success and popularity goes hand in hand with a certain responsibility? when we view camacho, we'll talk basically the court will allow to present
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a killer postalia. i think responsibility can mean confronting certain problems that, that americans yeah. they, we face brushing issues like global warming and then equality clinical and i mean don't know what other cola they see. well, luxury but also the extinction of certain species and people dying on this planet with whom one of them in florida, delaware, but it's okay. i don't think it is enough. is to seek individual answers to these issue with fund out of a new allowed follow that we need global, all encompassing and services. we classes, he will pull up. that's why i'm always looking to forge new alliances, adopt new perspectives, and take new steps that can bring about the changes our planet desperately needs set up. where did you, what i look, i'm nuclear literate, and it was at a bill in autumn, 2018 santa saint o showcased his on an installation at paris is played to tokyo, contemporary art venue. it focused on the importance of ad and how we as a species releasing this little element
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ah, santa seno set up 76 spiderwebs to make the ammo tangible as it were. spiders have inhabited the us, the hundreds of millions of years, and ease air to spin that intricate webb's kristen would have been going brother way left. brighter webs were a starting point. villa onion, i have been fascinated by them for a very long time. joe has it, they're connected to the spider, so they are a part of their body to not. and you know, lighter can only since a small bug is near because of the vibrations it sends through the web, the asian requests and data without the web. but it could neither feel nor see it's trained, the norway, i get what was it on? most spiders that make web's are blind from a different super. by creating a web people, they're essentially creating their own sensory ability. villa had ruffling,
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allowing them to feel the world and other species around them with the installation translated, the vibrations of spite, as movements into audio signals, creating a kind of a rock, nit symphony. we mean here, tiny dust particles attract and also transformed into sounds. the more people pass through this room, the more the particles world around the spiders register these movements and sounds, creating a form of interaction between them and the visitors ah,
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me and proceed go. alex is another called la taylor in person, has started with my obsession with spider when as him. so we set out making all kinds of them. makena coroner let technique. we also invented a machine together with the technical university of darmstadt, k. they brought my idea to life. i thought with the like the basically the machine uses laser signal to, we've intricate, was it for the article 3 day last week on blackest? mm. i think they went, oh, i mean, if we were something that got many academics interested and again we have some difficult but until then, okay. nobody had managed to create such a detailed map of spiderwebs and was aligned to really my team. and so i got a abided by the massachusetts institute of technology and max planck institute, or get into studies spiderweb will. yeah. and their surroundings victory to better understand these greener bit at the about an incident that happened that had been a felony. ah,
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to throw a hook on angie's light, along with spiders and spider webs in recently is they fade an important role in his art told us was exactly fascinated him about them. and when did this fascination start that on? yes or to call me says that i will have to call ms. hear, what will i always say you work with spiders? i always say no. if i was spiders, work with me. you know, it has, they've been here for more than 200000000 years. and so we can only learn from them, not the other way around my. my work is almost anthropological and attempt to reconstruct today's image of what it means to be humanly this collection of bacteria and other inhabitants. uncle, i'm trying to redefine our relationship to those with whom we share the planet and all together with natural scientists. santa santa has set up his own lab in his studio in berlin to study spiders and bad behavior. ah, don't look i'm it's, it may pass
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a little collection day. what strikes me at my studio is that many people still suffer from a rack and a phobia with a terrible fear of spiders and are in a studio. oh, 2nd. okay. last, we tend to when people visit the studio and realize that it's largely populated by spiders and spiderweb has always say, many of them grow uncomfortable for these comfort. ah, ah, him, we just didn't know. sorry, if we kept puppies or kittens here, people would say, oh, what pretty kitty you, i think don't, they don't usually do that. when they see spiders, somebody yet spiders are very different. the less, you must aim, not only to differentiate between the various species, but to see what unites spider and what separates them from one another, lack of a mother to discover the co relationships and synergies between species. he could buy something when he come into one of the spider nets have
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a special symbolism because you see all these connections. these threads which go from one side to the other. lean yeah, by they deliver it out. so if you ask me, what fascinates me most about spiders, it's the special beauty of their web. huh? no. visually represent. mm . in his installation switch, take up entire rims. santa senate continually plays with the patterns and shapes found in his spite as website visitors can even enter into a huge web and experienced the world from a spider's perspective which i la soda. no, nope. nope, it's erica with many of my work supers. i'm not thinking about the speculator the order. i'm also not thinking about the outside world, which makes us feel foreign or different. oh, okay. with these work i'm trying to create something all encompassing for went to visit. so that's why i like to work with really large services, and if you move around on one side of this,
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well the people on the other side move to rick walk. i think when i move around here, i cause vibrations which influenced the space journey learned i me and the spiders respond bishop. oh, well, for maybe this will let us find a new way of communicating with one another. he knew it. my work is about creating these kinds of connection is uncle brought up the l. okay. it's not just about seeing what's around us. thanks for luck. i'm in. i'm interested in interactions and things on which i am on a variety of levels and with different groups of people who will boykin to know what can we learn about ourselves from working with other species. and does this change the way we deal with one another? sarah center doesn't aim to definitively own so such questions. rather he uses his arts to get people thinking in his work algorithms. visitors enter an interactive network. they see and feel the vibrations triggered by themselves and others
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synchron, he employees, many different disciplines in his arts, astrophysics, form, engineering, biology. he even explores musical composition with the help of spiders. so why is this kind of interdisciplinary works so important to handle forecast? any port thank that brought up you think that connects young the simply nadia commodities. though we put it out and told him, well, because it keeps opening up new world. so when you only look at a phenomenon from one perspective, you're missing out on all the other perspective, hilton, me as the other ways of syncing reality or thinking about it. so it seems to me that these days, we often forget about these other realities. uh huh. yeah, to prompt people to change that perspective and encourage dialogue. sorta center always presents the results of his exchanges with natural scientists and expense from a variety of disciplines. he wants aunt lovers to be open to and engage
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with a broad spectrum of ideas. ah one that's captured santos and his imagination is humans long held fascination with flying. ready in frenulum aladdin. in our time, the dream of flight has turned into a nightmare uniform. that's due to the way we fly. it is excellent. back over the thought. little flying is a total disaster because we're reliant on fossil fuels, on lithium, so on batteries or other kinds of raw materials. expect to reach dr. pony out there, extraction and dangers, the survival of many species. eager about us again with brown before we need to find new ways of making the notion of flight a possible dream. a go right north lake. then we'll look one up for seamless. when you
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for years santa seno has been experimenting with flying arrows. solis sculptures at a variety of locations around the globe. these free floating sculptures on lifted only by the sun and carried only by the wind and enable flights without the consumption of fossil fuel. a radical concept ah, this is how thomas said us in o started to become interested in the possibilities of a new age. one he calls heiress, seen the aerial iraq. ah. was in think they must have propelled and i believe i think the term that best describes the era we're living in now is the capitalist. i don't see nicole the age of ramp and capitalism and on saturday, the whole the era scene is an epoch of ho,
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i'm in an age which is radically different from the cabin holocene. hey, good. i think i've been to the thin, di, ah, i copied or say no, it doesn't toilet cuz i can everything that changes our habits. but not the climate claim helps to usher in a new era rouge. one, we call the arrow seem a policy that an aerial age. it was a little, an era in which we demonstrate awareness of one another and of the environment, africa, and work together to invent new rituals and new customs to create this iraq or through. don't i book a hold or say steender? tomas said, i say knows heiress seen project requires a radical re thing. canal pot dwindling natural resources, rising emissions, climate change on the extinction of many species or destroying the very basis of our life on earth. but heiress seen places and not human beings at the center of things,
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protecting not polluting the elements that keeps us alive is its main goal. a way of making amends to mother ref. while that may sound like a utopian ideal, santa seno and his team have already proven that some of their ideas work in the real world. in argentina, the era scene foundation team has already set several world records. among them, the 1st mand fully so left free flight with a hot air balloon. it reached a height of 272 meters covered 1.7 kilometers, and was ab owen for over an hour. the team's next goal is to be able to transport several people at once, powered only by the sun's ultraviolet race and fulfilling the dream of emissions free air travel. conversely, underneath electrical thought, when these sculptures rise up, the 1st thing people say is that how can that be? it's mess rising a magical moment,
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hipaa. but suddenly the sculpture turns and there's something on it that was written by another person who put his gaze on me. it's like an onion. the more layers you peel away of his, the more questions arise as to how these things appear. so recall with tackle with colon deena gomez, we've just got back from argentina, winnable. we were working a lot with indigenous communities there. lamb, when we funded this, they have taken a clear stand against the colonial processes endangering their environment. our initial thought is that there is lithium mining going on in their territory. i. she lay argentina, sheila and bolivia bordered the area where this so called white gold as being mind . he said, okay, but i thought i don't. and for every ton of lithium, your, we know that to 1000000 leaders of water are required. dessler kind of goes, there are $71.00 kilos of lithium and one tesla ticket. this is an area already plagued by drought that was accidentally done or if we start to excavate lithium to
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satisfy the consumerism of today's capitalistic society. and almost every one who lives on the edge of the cellar, the salt flat like it will die allotted. he, along with the animals and the vegetation, there hid the communities who live there will be forced to leave. it was in a 4 way school was empty. no, that's why we're asking. how can we change our habits? look so that it doesn't lead to climate change. last october requires us what kind of habits and rhythms does the planet desperately require to regain its equilibrium . but it looks like anybody know, out of the pathetic k, we can't wait for every one to agree golf tournament. air travel will have to be very different in the future. they will kill you at a loss in the library. well, for lighting to uh, like a helicopter india santa santos project has become a global movement artists, scientists, designers, and activists have joined the iris, seen foundation that he set up for
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a community has grown up. it's one that comes together and engages in making a dialogue. ah lincoln the biggest that again with moment. okay. i like the thought of a community that works like a collective i smoke and elder. that's why we've established 2 foundation that i can ophelia pick. one of them is called a racket. filiano lasagna is elected. unlike arachne fopes, it's members or friends to spiders and their webs could have been. it is a non profit organization that is working to save certain ecosystems. emma's and was a kind of community of friends that also exists beyond the studio, tomas, at a center, literally a foot stool. this community is researching how we can ensure the long term existence of certain ecosystems and life forms. now that when i say look where else
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in the 2nd community that has sprung up out of the studio is called aero seen. but i mean this to consists of people working in the studio as well as an ever growing impassioned community of people outside who are pursuing it as a hobby. they are people who believe that we can change our way of life and not just by changing individual mobility, but by founding a movement for change. public. i'm in santa center and the arrestin community have developed an explorer, kate, in collaboration with mit and the red cross. it enables anyone to build a floating, exploring sculpture and calculate its flight path and flight duration via e. so software each flight gathers data about air quality, temperature, and humidity, and pressure, which is fed back into the software, giving us more and more information about our planet. and what said ascent o kohls? it's highways in the sky. like the jet stream, for instance. ever seen is an open invitation to everyone who is fighting for
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a future free your fossil fuels and dreaming of a new kind of boundless, borderless mobility. santa center slogan is from home. i sap eons, to whom i've noticed. oh, glad to go for me. aren't always means and are going dialogue or in exchange grown . and i, for example, the art involving the spiders and spiders. welders won't, i don't really. we have to form new alliances and new ways of working to understand our world killer. hey, the categories that exists today tend to separate us from one another, rather than to unite us senior go melissa capacity. and it seems to me that art can help us in this process for the way they can. art has this ability, this generosity, or this innocence is that the people who say no in art, you continue to search with child like innocence and noise. and it seems to me that that is exactly what can help us to see the world with other eyes fully steender.
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stefano is continually venturing out with childlike curiosity into the world limits . he can better understand our planet and our cosmos. donnelly. oh, oh, wow. no game is project event horizon has taken him to the unique salt flats. in bolivia, the artist is fascinated by the way the horizon quite literally dissolves. with in the early hours of the morning, a very thin layer of water vapor hovers above the surface of the flats. and for just a few moments, the horizon looks as if it has been erased. the surface of the earth forms a giant mira of the universe that surrounds us. it's
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a fascinating meditative phenomenon. you can even see reflections of light emitted by the lodge magdalana clouds and neighboring universe 163000 light years away. oh, that is actually she to reception about the future is a central significance xyz landrum and go, what plans does he have for his own food? check your plan to stay in. one of the impuls venue look benefit wood flooring and was able to a 100 full co any move my plans for the future or to continue working as we have done recently, yoda it's atmosphere. then we should also start to show solidarity with all of the others on board, the co passengers in our world. blended. we need to consider how we can continue this journey together and we'll talk to theater. ah,
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tomasetti santo's work is opening our eyes to what's going on here and now it's also an invitation to engage with burning questions about all future. ah here for good when a broncho, if it oh, i hope that the balloon that lifted off with 2 passengers and who, who providence will soon be able to carry 3 or 4 people out. i know anyone will follow and if we can already fly at an altitude of up to 272 meters for almost 2 hours. but then i hope that in the future you'll be able to travel to interview me from colombia, for example, without your having to take a plane. that is said the lesson, i don't know, but the journey is the destination that the journey we will often lose our way on this journey. is that happen? but we will continue on with enthusiasm and hope according to sac lee. it bonanza? ah
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