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this is carefully. don't know how with to the goal. ah, feel the magic discover the world around you. subscribe to d w documentary on youtube. ah, no you, i will flag. i've been thinking about the idea of flying cities for a long time is doubled. as our planet circles, the sun, i own, we own over this humanity and all planetary speeds for who are traveling at a speed of 76000 miles an hour,
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a planet idea. the idea of flying cities isn't really about utopian from a cosmic perspective. we. i said if i told an astronaut about it, my he tell me what we're already flying or b. ready i thomas sarah center is art wax, explore the pressing issues of our times, reflecting on how we can live more sustainable lives and use our resources more sparingly. he's also interested in alternative means of travel, and how aunts can inspire us to think outside the box. delivery. no, right. oh, there you go. i know. oh my go
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with the argent tinian performance and installation artist takes an interdisciplinary approach to his work and regularly cooperates with scientific research institutions. like when he launched this experiment in bolivia to test out the possibilities of emissions free air travel. ah, this is sarah santos, berlin studio where he plans and prepares his many projects. ah, ah. cedersahn who has always been fascinated by the interplay between arts and science. he studied art and architecture in argentina and then attended frankfurt stater schuler art school on a scholarship. he also took part in a nasa research project. he's become an internationally sought after artist, in part because his work ponder some of the most urgent questions we face to day,
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such as, how can we shape our future and how much responsibility to we carry for our actions? your role if you connect to myself in a 4 way who is tomas at a signal, you might as well ask me about the sum of different parts go home, what makes some one the course and they are or you that will, that life? i have the feeling we, as humans, crew tend to see ourselves as extraordinary, he can, but as little as somehow superior to other species, ala. how about in reality we struggle to forge real relationships with others? macy's autism busy, but real relationships founded on solidarity folly that are essential to our progress, but it is on micro hinden. santa center began experimenting with the idea of floating cities in 2011. that year he showcased his cloud cities projected by linds hamburger bonham, if gallery this project likes him, any others questioned the way we live as a society and envisioned new forms of human co existence and community. his
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berlin show featured a network of cloud like olds, that visitors could climb into. what would it be night to inhabit such a floating city, to live and work san? ah, what masses to sorry, seno is that we realised everything is interconnected. that way just parts of a greater home. mm oh. busy busy synthesis good, does he have the feeling that all the attention afforded to him all his success and popularity goes hand in hand with a certain responsibility. when we view o'clock, though, we'll come busily, the co toilet below to put aside a killer portfolio. i think responsibility can mean confronting certain problems
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that america day we faced dressing issues like global warming and any quality clinical. and i mean don't wanna go live. they see, well, luckily, but also the extinction of certain species and people dying on this planet. both one of them in florida, delaware, but it's okay. i don't think it is enough is to seek individual answers to these issue with one of a indeed allows follow that we need global, all encompassing and services we cast as he moved. but that's why i'm always looking to forge new alliances, adopt new perspectives, and take new steps that can bring about the changes our planet desperately needs set up. where did you wanna come to? kelley leo clinton was at the bill in autumn, 2018 santa saint o. showcased his on an installation at paris is played to tokyo, contemporary aunt venue it focused on the importance of ad and how we as a species of polluting this vital element
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ah, santa seno set up $76.00 spiderwebs to make the am more tangible as it were spiders have inhabited the us, the hundreds of millions of years, and he's dead to spin that intricate webs. kristen, but a bunker and brother way. his brighter webs were a starting point. the lead onion, i have been fascinated by them for a very long time. dr. is that they're connected to the spider, so they are a part of their body to and yeah, no lighter can only since a small bug is near because of the vibrations it sends through the web with the asian requests and data without the webinar. but it could neither feel nor see it's trained in all the way i get what i see it on. most spiders that make webs are blind from a different. so by creating a web, they're essentially creating their own sensory ability. villa, her roughly allowing them to feel the world and other species around them and we
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particular the installation translated, the vibrations of spite as movements into audio signals, creating a kind of arachne it symphony. we mean b. ready here, tiny dust particles attract and also transformed into sounds. the more people pass through this rim, the more the particles whirl around the spiders registered these movements and sounds, creating a form of interaction between them and the visitors ah, and present go, alex is another called la taylor in person. it started with my obsession. what
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spider went on as him? so we set out making all kinds of them makena corner lead technique. we also invented a machine together with the technical university of darmstadt, k. they brought my idea to life. i thought like the, basically the machine uses laser signal to we've intricate, well, for the article to really tell us more complex us, juan today went, oh, i mean, if we were something that got many academics interested or can we have some difficult but until then. okay, nobody had managed to create such a detailed map of the spider designed to really my team. and so i got abided by the massachusetts institute of technology and max planck institute, or get them to study spiderweb. well. yeah. and their surroundings to, to better understand these green trip if it hadn't been emptied than, than that had been nathaniel, ou
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to us on. angie's let along with vidas and spider webs in basically is they fade an important role in his are told us was exactly fascinating him about them. and when did this fascination start that on? yes. or to call me? so i thought that i had one is here, what will i post say you work with spiders? i always say no. and the spiders work with me, you know h, as they've been here for more than 200000000 years. and so we can only learn from them and not the other way around. out, my work is almost anthropological, an attempt to reconstruct today's image of what it means to be humanly this collection of bacteria and other inhabitants. uncle, i'm trying to redefine our relationship to those with whom we share the planet plenty to know together with natural scientists. santa santa has set up his own lab in his studio in berlin to study spiders and that behavior with me person latoya, can i him day? what strikes me at my studio is that many people still suffer from iraq and phobias
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and has a terrible fear of spiders and are in toys. oh, sap window came last weekend when people visit the studio and realize that it's largely populated by spiders and spider web has always say many of them grow uncomfortable for these comfort. ah, ah, him, we just didn't know. sorry, if we kept puppies or kittens here, people would say, oh, what pretty kitty you, i think don't, they don't usually do that when they see spiders, somebody thing yet, spiders are very different. the less, you must aim, not only to differentiate between the various species, but to see what unites spiders and what separates them from one another. lack of am i to discover the co relationships and synergies between species. he could buy something when you come into an, a spider nets have a special symbolism because you see all these connections. these threads which go
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from one side to the other. lean yeah, by they deliver it out. so if you ask me, what fascinates me most about spiders, it's the special beauty of their web. huh? no. is there some way with me in his installation switch, take up entire rims. santa senate continually plays with the patterns and shapes found in his spite his lapse. visitors can even enter into a huge web and experienced the world from a spider's perspective. oh, jayla soda? no. nope. nope. inadequate with many of my work supers, i'm not thinking about the speculator toyota. i'm also not thinking about the outside world, which makes us feel foreign or different, little who could with these work, i'm trying to create something all encompassing for went to visit. so that's why i like to work with really large surfaces. anderson if you move around on one side of this, well all the people on the other side move to like walk. i think when i move around
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here, i cause vibrations which influenced the space journey. let i did, i me and the spiders respond. i said, well, we'll do that for maybe this will let us find a new way of communicating with one another on. he knows my work is about creating these kinds of connection isn't called out at the l. okay? it's not just about seeing what's around us like that except for like, i'm in, i'm interested in interactions. it can be somewhat him on a variety of levels and with different groups of people who will blind to know what can we learn about ourselves from working with other species. and does this change the way we deal with one another? sara center doesn't aim to definitively own so such questions. rather he uses his arts to get people thinking in his work algorithms. visitors enter an interactive network. they see and feel the vibrations triggered by themselves and others
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synchron, he employees, many different disciplines in his arts, astrophysics, form, engineering, biology. he even explores musical composition with the help of spiders. so why is this kind of interdisciplinary work so important to handle forecast? any port thank that brought up you think that connects young discipline, nadia commodities. though we put it out and told him because it keeps opening up new world. so when you only look at a phenomenon from one perspective, you're missing out on all the other perspective. helping me out of the other ways of syncing reality or thinking about it. so it seems to me that these days, we often forget about these other realities. to prompt people to change their perspective and encourage dialogue. sorta center always presents the results of his exchanges with natural scientists and experts from a variety of disciplines. he wants aunt lovers to be open to and
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engage with a broad spectrum of ideas. ready no one that's captured santos and his imagination is humans long held fascination with flying in from you that will aladdin. in our time, the dream of flight has turned into a nightmare uniform. that's due to the way we fly. as a sort of baffled at the back, flying is a total disaster because we're reliant on fossil fuels, on lithium, so on batteries or other kinds of raw materials. extract he reached out to pony alley. there extraction endangers the survival of many species. give it, but i think i can go down before we need to find new ways of making the notion of flight a possible dream. a go right north lake. then we'll look when i'm putting this. when you for years santa center has been experimenting with flying arrows. solis sculptures
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that a variety of locations around the globe. these free floating sculptures on lifted only by the sun and carried only by the wind and enable flight without the consumption of fossil fuel. a radical concept ah, this is how thomas said, i say no, started to become interested in the possibilities of a new age. one he calls heiress, seen the aerial, iraq. ah, what is in think they will, must have propel and i believe i think the term that best describes the ero we're living in now is the capitalist. i don't see nicole the age of ramp and capitalism and sally, they really hold the arrow seen as an epoch of home that min and age,
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which is radically different from the cabinet holocene. hey, i think i've been to the thin di ah, capitol say no. it doesn't toilet cause i could everything, the changes are habits, but not the climate. lima helps to usher in a new era. one, we call the era scene a policy that an aerial age. it was a little an era in which we demonstrate awareness of one another and of the environment, africa, and work together to invent new rituals and new customs to create this iraq or to read. and i book a hold or say steender. tomas said, i say knows era seen project requires a radical re thing, canal pot dwindling natural resources, rising emissions, climate change on the extinction of many species or destroying the very basis of our life on us. but era seen places and not human beings at the center of things with protecting,
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not polluting the elements that keeps us alive is its main goal. a way of making amends to mother ref. while that may sound like a utopian ideal, sad ascent. oh, and his team have already proven that some of their ideas work in the real world. in argentina, the iris seen foundation team has already set several world records. among them. the 1st mand fully so left free flight with a hot abilene. it reached a height of 272 meters covered 1.7 kilometers and was ab owen for over an hour. the teens next goal is to be able to transport several people at once, powered only by the sun's ultraviolet rays and fulfilling the dream of emissions free air travel. conversely, unbelievable. when these sculptures rise up, the 1st thing people say is that how can that be? it's mesmerizing a magical moment. he put her, but suddenly the sculpture turned in and there's something on it that was written
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by another person who gave me it's like an onion. the more layers you peel away of his the more questions arise as to how these things appeared. sorta ortho, o. m coleman. deena gomez, we've just got back from argentina, winnable. we were working a lot with indigenous communities there. when we for this, they have taken a clear stand against the colonial processes endangering their environment. and our initial thought is that there is lithium mining going on in their territory. i ga, argentina. sheila and bolivia border. the area where this so called white gold as being mine. he said, okay, but i thought i don't. and for every ton of lithium your, we know that to 1000000 leaders of water are required. dessler kind of knows there are 71 kilos of lithium and one tesla ticket. this is an area already plagued by drought as i was accidentally double. or if we start to excavate lithium to satisfy
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the consumerism of today's capitalistic society. and they go every one who lives on the edge of the cellar, the salt flat, like it will die allotted. he, along with the animals and the vegetation there. in the communities who live there will be forced to leave. it was a uniform escal was empty. no, that's why we're asking. how can we change our habits so that it doesn't lead to climate change last october, if you're already dwelling us, what kind of habits and rhythms does the planet desperately require to regain its equilibrium? but it look like anybody know, of the pathetic ok. we can't wait for every one to agree golf tournament. air travel will have to be very different in the future. a locally wireless in the lighter la for lighting time. okay. helicopter india, santa centers project has become a global movement artists, scientists, designers, and activists have joined the iris seen foundation that he set up a community has grown up. it's one that comes together and engages in making
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a dialog. ah lincoln the best that again with jewels momento can but i like the thought of a community that works like a collective i. so i'm walking dell, although that's why we have established 2 foundation. i can ophelia. one of them is called a racket. filiano of lasagna is elected. unlike arachne fopes, it's members or friends to spiders and their webs could have been. it is a non profit organization that is working to save certain ecosystem, was the famous, and was a kind of community of friends that also exists beyond the studio. tomas at a center literally a foot history of this community is researching how we can ensure the long term existence of certain ecosystems and life forms. not only those they look where else in the 2nd community that has sprung up out of the studio is called aero seen. but
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i mean this to consists of people working in the studio as well as an ever growing impassioned community of people outside who are pursuing it as a hobby. they are people who believe that we can change our way of life and not just by changing individual mobility, but by founding a movement for change. public. i'm you, santa center and the iris thing community have developed an explorer, kate in collaboration with mit and the red cross. it enables anyone to build a floating explorer sculpture and calculate its flight path and flight duration via esl software. each flight gathers data about air quality, temperature, and humidity, and pressure, which is fed back into the software, giving us more and more information about our planet and what said ascent o coles, it's highways in the sky. like the jet stream, for instance. ever seen is an open invitation to everyone who is fighting for
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a future free or fossil fuels and dreaming of a new kind of boundless, borderless mobility. set of centers, slogan is from him as happens to homo floated oh, glad go gone me. martin always means are going dialogue or an exchange coin. and i, for example, the art involving the spiders and spiders. welders won't, i don't know if at least we have to form new alliances and new ways of working to understand our world kili. the categories that exists today tend to separate us from one another, rather than to unite us senior melissa capacity. and it seems to me that art can help us in this process before we can art has this ability, this generosity, or this innocence is that the people who say no in art, you continue to search with childlike innocence and norie. and it seems to me that that is exactly what can help us to see the world with other eyes for life team that own stefano is continually venturing out with childlike curiosity into the
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world limits. he can better understand our planet and cosmos. donnelly, well, oh lord, given his project event horizon has taken him to the unique salt flats. in bolivia, the artist is fascinated by the way the horizon quite literally dissolves. with in the early hours of the morning, a very thin layer of water vapor hovers above the surface of the flats. and for just a few moments, the horizon looks as if it has been erased. the surface of the earth forms a giant mira of the universe that surrounds us. busy it's a fascinating meditative phenomenon. you can even see reflections of light emitted
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by the lodge magdalana clouds and neighboring universe 163000 light years. oh, that is actually shooting the future. is it central significant sized land from and go? what plans does he have for his own flint check your plan to stay in? one of the impuls venue. look benefit thing, but if we're doing almost 800 full co any most my plans for the future are to continue working. as we have done recently, cody lay fan at the same time to increasingly question the logistics of the art industry, the transport of artwork and my own mobility position for and to consider alternative ways for us artists to be present as well. if, if, if we become conscious of our planet and its atmosphere, then we should also start to show solidarity with all of the others on board, the co passengers in our world. blended. we need to consider how we can continue
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this journey together and we'll talk to see a 3 ah, to last set of say knows, work is opening our eyes to what's going on here. and now it's also an invitation to engage with burning questions about of future here for doorknob when a brown door, if it, oh, can i hope that the balloon that lifted off with 2 passengers and who he province will soon be able to carry 3 or 4 people out i will say almost allison and if we can already fly at an altitude of up to 272 meters for almost 2 hours. but then i hope that in the future you'll be able to travel to interview me from colombia, for example, without your having to take a plain letter, said the lesson, i don't know, but the journey is the destination, the journey we will often lose our way on this turnings up and but we will continue
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