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come, mike speaking, how can this passionate hatred of a people be explained? a gold con go. a history of anti semitism is a history of stigmatization and exclusion of religious and political power struggles. it's a history of slender, of hatred and violence, or even 77 years after the holocaust hatred towards jews is still pervasive. oh, a history that you semitism this week on d. w ah ah ah ah no show you. i will flag. i've been thinking about the idea of flying cities for a long time as double as our planet circles, the sun. i own we own it is humanity and all planetary speed. yes or no and are
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traveling at a speed of 76000 miles an hour. oh, planet idea, the idea of flying cities isn't really about utopian from a cosmic perspective. re i said, if i told an astronaut about it, my he tell me, but we're already flying or maybe in thomas, sarah center is art wax. explore the pressing issues of our times, reflecting on how we can live more sustainable lives and use our resources more sparingly. he's also interested in alternative means of travel, and how aunts can inspire us to think outside the books and living. no. oh, there you go. i know with all my go
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with you the aren't in tinian performance and installation artist takes an interdisciplinary approach to his work and regularly cooperates with scientific research institutions. like when he launched this experiment in bolivia to test out the possibilities of emissions free air travel. ah, this is sarah santos, berlin studio where he plans and prepares his many projects. ah ah. said acendo has always been fascinated by the into play between arts and science. he studied art and architecture in argentina and then attended frankfort stater schuler art school on a scholarship. he also took part in a nasa research project. he's become an internationally sought after artist, in part because his work ponder some of the most urgent questions we face to day,
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such as, how can we shape our future and how much responsibility to we carry for our actions? your role connect to myself as an affordable who is tomas at a signal? you might as well ask me about the some of different parts go home or what makes some on the course on they are or you that, that will, that life. i have the feeling we, as humans curious, tend to see ourselves as extraordinary. he can political as somehow superior to other species ala how, but in reality, we struggle to afford real relationships with other species, auto separation, but real relationships founded on solidarity. so now that are essential to our progress. but is this on macro hinden. santa center began experimenting with the idea of floating cities in 2011. that year he showcased his cloud cities project to berlin's hamburger bond off gallery. this project likes and many others, questioned the way we live as
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a society and envisioned new forms of human co existence and community. his berlin show featured a network of cloud like olds that visitors could climb into. what would it be like to inhabit such a floating city, to live and work, sam? ah, what masses to cyrus center is that we realised everything is interconnected. that way, just parts of a greater home. mm. oh. busy cynthia, does he have the feeling that all the attention afforded to him all his success and popularity goes hand in hand with a certain responsibility? can we do you welcome, we'll go. we'll come busily. the quote will apollo to pathetically la postalia. i
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think responsibility can mean confronting certain problems. had 3 mckinsey one day we faced dressing issues like global warming and then equality common, clint, i mean don't know what, i'll cola. they see. well, luckily, but also the extinction of certain species and people dying on this planet with whom one of them in order to have the delaware, but it's okay. i don't think it is enough is to seek individual answers to these issues with one of a new allowance follow that we need global, all encompassing answer from we cast as him. we pull up. that's why i'm always looking to forge new alliances, adopt new perspectives, and take new steps that can bring about the changes our planet desperately needs. and apparently what i look, i'm nuclear clinton was at the bill. in autumn, 2018 santa saint o showcased his on an installation at paris is played to tokyo, contemporary art venue. it focused on the importance of ad and how we as a species of polluting this vital element
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ah, santa seno set up $76.00, spider webs to make the am more tangible as it were. spiders have inhabited the us, the hundreds of millions of years. and she's asked to spin that intercom webs. kristen, but i've been going brother way left brighter webs. we're a starting point at villa onion. i have been fascinated by them for a very long time. is it, they're connected to the spider, so they are a part of their body to and yeah, no load either can only since a small bug is near because of the vibrations it sends through the web with the asian reports and data without the webinar. but it could neither feel nor see it sprained in all the way i could, but as it on most spiders that make webs are blind from a different. so by creating a web, they're essentially creating their own sensory ability. villa had roughly allowing
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them to feel the world and other species around them. we particular the installation translated, the vibrations of spite, as movements into audio signals, creating a kind of arachne it symphony. we mean b. ready here, tiny dust particles attract and also transformed into sounds. the more people pass through this rim, the more the particles world around the spiders register these movements and sounds, creating a form of interaction between them and the visitors ah,
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i presume go alps as an article, la taylor, and become a head started with my obsession with spider when as him, so we set out making all kinds of them makena color let technique. we also invented a machine together with the technical university of darmstadt, k. they brought my idea to life at dorothy like the basically the machine uses laser signals to weave intricate, well it, so they are, they got to really tell us will complete us with they went, oh, i mean if we went on to that god, many academics interested in a community living of but until then, lucas and nobody had managed to create such a detailed map of the spider miss elaine to lily my team. and so i got a bided by the massachusetts institute of technology and max planck institute, or get to study spiderweb williams and their surroundings to, to better understand these greenhouse did a thing that i knew. but anthem than, than that of the men, nathaniel, ooh,
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to us, i was hoping that on jeez, light along with vidas and spider webs in recently is they, fate, an important role in his art told us was exactly fascinate him about nevada. and when did this fascination start that on? yes or to comments? i thought i had a question here. what? well, jose, you work with spiders. i always say no. and the spider's work with me middle age as they've been here for more than 200000000 years. and so we can only learn from them, not the other way around. out, my work is almost anthropological. an attempt to reconstruct today's image of what it means to be humanly this collection of bacteria and other inhabitants. i'm trying to redefine our relationship to those with whom we share the planet plenty to know together with natural scientists. sarah seno has set up his own lab in his studio in berlin to study spy does, and that behavior. oh, don't come here with me personally, 3 o'clock and day. what strikes me at my studio is that many people still suffer
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from iraq and a phobia has a terrible fear of spiders and are in a toyota oh sap window came last week. and when people visit the studio and realize that it's largely populated by spiders and spiderweb has always say, many of them grow uncomfortable for these comfort. ah, ah, him, we just didn't know. sorry, if we kept puppies or kittens here, people would say, oh, what pretty kitty you, i think don't they don't use do that when they see spiders and somebody thing yet, spiders are very different. the less, you must aim, not only to differentiate between the various species, but to see what unites spiders and what separates them from one another. like with am i to discover the co relationships and synergies between species. he could buy something when he come into an a spider nets have
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a special symbolism because you see all these connections. these threads which go from one side to the other. lean yeah, by they deliver it out. so if you ask me, what fascinates me most about spiders, it's the special beauty of their web november some way we have mm . in his installation which take up entire rims. santa santa continually plays with the patterns and shapes found in his slightest lapse. visitors can even enter into a huge web and experienced the world from a spider's perspective. oh, jayla soda? no. nope. nope. inside. okay, with many of my work supers, i'm not thinking about the speculator toyota. i'm also not thinking about the outside world, which makes us feel foreign or different little okay, with these work i'm trying to create something all encompassing for me to so so that's why i like to work with really large surfaces. anderson if you move around
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on one side of this, well the people on the other side move to like walk us. when i move around is i cause vibrations which influenced the space journey. let me and the spiders respond . i suppose the for maybe this will let us find a new way of communicating with one another. no, he knew it. my work is about creating these kinds of connection isn't going to try to pal. okay. it's not just about seeing what's around us, who's in texas lucky. i'm interested in interactions. there is on which i am on a variety of levels and with different groups of people who will boykin to know what can we learn about ourselves from working with other species. and does this change the way we deal with one another? sarah center doesn't tame to definitively answer such questions. rather he uses his arts to get people thinking in his work algorithms, visitors enter an interactive network. they see and feel the vibrations triggered by themselves and others
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sync when he employees, many different disciplines in his arts, astrophysics, form, engineering, biology. he even explores musical composition with the help of spiders. so why is this kind of interdisciplinary work so important to handle forecast? any port thank that brought up you think that connects, young discipline idea, come out of the stuff, put it out and told him, well, because it keeps opening up new world. so when you only look at a phenomenon from one perspective, you're missing out on all the other perspective, helping me out of the other ways of syncing reality or thinking about it is that it seems to me that these days, we often forget about these other realities. social to her, to prompt people to change that perspective and encourage dialogue. sarah center always presents the results of his exchanges with natural scientists and expense from a variety of disciplines. he,
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once aunt lovers to be open to and engage with a broad spectrum of ideas. ready ah one that is captured santos and his imagination is humans long held fascination with flying in sonya they will learn in our time the dream of flight has turned into a nightmare. the reforming that's due to the way we fly is excellent. i thought of it that that little flying is a total disaster because we're reliant on fossil fuels, on lithium, so on batteries or other kinds of raw materials expect to restock and pony out there, fraction endangers the survival of many species. given us again going down before we need to find new ways of making the notion of flight a possible dream, a go read north lake. lynn will look one up putting this when you
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for years. santa santa has been experimenting with flying arrow solis sculptures that a variety of locations around the globe. these free floating sculptures on lifted only by the sun and carried only by the wind and enable flight without the consumption of fossil fuel. a radical concept ah, this is how thomas said, i say no, started to become interested in the possibilities of a new age. one he calls ever seen the aerial iraq but it's in thinking don't muscle propel hello bulgaria. i think the term that best describes the euro we're living in now is the capitalist. i don't see nicole the age of ramp and capitalism, but honestly they really hold the arrow seen as an epoch of home that been an age
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which is radically different from the cabinet holocene. hey, i think i meant to the thin di ah, capital zeno. it doesn't toilet was like everything that changes our habits, but not the climate claim helps to usher in a new era. region one, we call the arrow seen a policy that an aerial age and also an era in which we demonstrate awareness of one another. and of the environment booker and work together to invent new rituals and new customs to create this iraq or to we don't have book a home door say steender thomas said, i say nose air scene project requires a radical re thing, canal dwindling natural resources, rising emissions climate change on the extinction of many species or destroying the very basis of all life on us. but era seen places are not human beings at the center of things with protecting,
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not polluting. the element that keeps us alive is its main goal. a way of making amends to mother ref. while that may sound like a utopian ideal, satta seno and his team have already proven that some of their ideas work in the real world. in argentina, the iris seen foundation team has already set several world records among them. the 1st mand fully so love free flight with a hotel. i believe it reached a height of 272 meters covered, 1.7 kilometers and was ab owen for over an hour. the team's next goal is to be able to transport several people at once, powered only by the sun's ultraviolet race and fulfilling the dream of emissions free air travel, conversely runs on this ethical thought when these sculptures rise up. the 1st thing people say is that how can that be? it's mesmerizing a magical moment. it with her,
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but suddenly the sculpture turned in and there's something on it that was written by another person who put his gaze for me. it's like an onion. the more layers you peel away of his the more questions arise as to how these things appear. sorta ortho. with colin, deena golden. yes. we've just got back from argentina. winnable. we were working a lot with indigenous communities there when we forth is they have taken a clear stand against the colonial processes endangering their environment. and our initial thought is that there is lithium mining going on in their territory. i ga argentina sheila and believe board of the area where this so called white gold as being mine. he said, okay, but i thought i don't. and for every ton of lithium, we know that 2000000 liters of water are required. tesla kind of, there are 71 kilos of lithium and one tesla. again, this is an area already plagued by drought december. second. i really don't know if
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we start to excavate lithium to satisfy the consumerism of today's capitalistic society. and they go every one who lives on the edge of the cellar, the salt flat, like it will die aladdin. he, along with the animals and the vegetation there, the communities who live there will be forced to leave. a former school was important. that's why we're asking, how can we change our habits so that it doesn't lead to climate change last october, it will require us what kind of habits and rhythms does the planet desperately require to regain its equilibrium? doesn't look like any other pathetic. ok, we can't wait for every one to agree. go through with air travel will have to be very different and the future elko, nevada loss in the library will for lighting time. okay. hello to india. santa centers project has become a global movement artists, scientists, designers, and activists have joined the iris seen foundation that he set up a
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community has grown up. it's one that comes together and engages in making a dialogue with lincoln. the best that again, which will momento, can i like the thought of a community that works like a collective i. so i'm working dell, although that's why we have established 2 foundation ophelia. one of them is called arachne ophelia lasagna selected. unlike arachne fopes, it's members or friends to spiders and their abs could have been there. it is a non profit organization that is working to save certain ecosystems is famous and also a kind of community of friends that also exists beyond the studio. tomas, out of santa latoya, foot of toil. this community is researching how we can ensure the long term existence of certain ecosystems and life forms know that only i say, well,
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i'll say no. the 2nd community that has sprung up out of the studio is called arrow same, but it's, i mean this to consists of people working in the studio as well as an ever growing impassioned community of people outside who are pursuing it as a hobby. they are people who believe that we can change our way of life and not just by changing individual mobility. but by founding a movement for change. pal come you. busy santa center and the era scene community have developed in exploring kate in collaboration with mit and the red cross. it enables anyone to build a floating explorer sculpture and calculate its flight path and flight duration via esl software. each flight gathers data about air quality, temperature, and humidity, and pressure, which is fed back into the software, giving us more and more information about our planets. and what said a center cools, it's highways in the sky. like the jet stream for instance. ever seen is an open
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invitation to everyone who is fighting for a future free of fossil fuels and dreaming of a new kind of boundless, borderless mobility. santa center slogan is from home as sapiens to homo flu, twenties. oh, glad acount goal for me aren't always means and are going dialogue or in exchange going. for example, the art involving the spiders and spiders was wonderful. yeah, we have to form new alliances and new ways of working to understand our world killer. the categories that existed to day tend to separate us from one another, rather than to unite us. see nagel. marissa capacity seems to me that art can help us in this process for what they think art has this ability, this generosity, or this innocence is that the people to say no in art, you continue to search with childlike innocence and o e. and it seems to me that that is exactly what can help us to see the world. with other eyes for latino sat,
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a fennel is continually venturing out with childlike curiosity into the world's limits. he can better understand our planet and our cosmos will happily. oh, oh, wow. logan is project event horizon has taken him to the goonies, salt flats. in bolivia, the artist is fascinated by the way the horizon quite literally dissolves. with in the early hours of the morning, a very thin layer of water vapor hovers above the surface of the flats. and for just a few moments, the horizon looks as if it has been erased. the surface of the earth forms a giant mira of the universe that surrounds us. busy it's
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a fascinating meditative phenomenon. you can even see reflections of light emitted by the lodge magdalana cloud, a neighboring universe, 163000 light years away. oh, did you fix your solution to do the faction about the future? is it central significance, xyz landrum and go? what plans does he have for his own food? check your plan, his dni. what else? impuls venue look benefit? what if lucon was a little hon. fulcrum or any mas? my plans for the future are to continue working as we have done recently sold a life and at the same time to increasingly question the logistics of the art industry, the transport of artwork and my own mobility position, uniform and to consider alternative ways for us. artists to be present as well if, if, if we become conscious of our planet and its atmosphere, then we should also start to show solidarity with all of the others on board the co
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passengers in our world. blended. we need to consider how we can continue this journey together and we'll talk to theater. ah, me. tomasetti santo's work is opening our eyes to what's going on here. and now it's also an invitation to engage with burning questions about of teacher here for today when a bronze boyfriend, oh, can i hope that the balloon that lifted off with 2 passengers and who, who providence will soon be able to carry 3 or 4 people out i know almost all of you and if we can already fly at an altitude of up to 272 meters for almost 2 hours . but then i hope that in the future you'll be able to travel to interview me from colombia, for example, without your having to take a plane. said the lesson, i don't know, but the journey is the destination that the journey we will often lose our way on
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