mean, gonna working on lunch so anyway, very holiday destinations and drowning in plastic white wine. and we can look at the causal every year. europe exports over 1000000 tons of plastic with there. another way. after all, the environment isn't to recyclable. make up your own mind. d. w. made for mines. ah, ah no you, i don't like i've been thinking about the idea of flying cities for a long time as them all. as our planet circles the sun i only we don't know, it is humanity and all planetary speed for low and are traveling at

a speed of 76000 miles an hour. oh, planet idea. the idea of flying cities isn't really about utopian from a cosmic perspective. we, i said if i told an astronaut about it, my, he tell me what we're all ready flying or b, i thomas sarah center is art wax. explore the pressing issues of our times, reflecting on how we can live more sustainable lives and use our resources more sparingly. he's also interested in alternative means of travel, and how arts can inspire us to think outside the box. and really, no. right. oh, there you go. i know oh my god

with the argent tinian performance and installation artist takes an interdisciplinary approach to his work and regularly cooperates with scientific research institutions. like when he launched this experiment in bolivia to test out the possibilities of emissions free air travel. ah, this is sarah se knows berlin studio, where he plans and prepares his many projects. ah, ah. santa santa has always been fascinated by the interplay between arts and science. he studied art and architecture in argentina, and then attended frankfurt state or schuler art school on a scholarship. he also took part in a nasa research project. he's become an internationally sought after artist, in part because his work ponders some of the most urgent questions we face to day,

such as, how can we shape our future and how much responsibility to we carry for our actions . your role can handle myself as an a 4 way who is tomas said i signal you might as well ask me about the some of different parts go home. what makes some on the course i'm, they are, or you that will, that if i have the feeling we, as humans, crew tendency ourselves as extraordinary, i can, but as little as somehow superior to other specie law. how about in reality we struggle to forge real relationships with other species? what was at best but real relationships founded on solidarity fully that are essential to our progress. but is this on macro hinden? santa center began experimenting with the idea of floating cities in 2011. that year he showcased his cloud cities projected by linds hamburger bonham gallery . this project, like so many others, questioned the way we live as

a society and envisioned new forms of human co existence and community. his berlin show featured a network of cloud like olds that visitors could climb into. what would it be like to inhabit such a floating city to live and work them? ah, what masses to cyrus st. oh is that we realised everything is interconnected. that way. just parts of a great a. ah. busy sent this good, does he have the feeling that all the attention afforded to him all his success and popularity goes hand in hand with a certain responsibility? can we view commack though? welcome busily. the call to let bologna pathetically la postalia. i think

responsibility can mean confronting certain problems. had that americans. yeah. they, we faced dressing issues like global warming and then equality, common content. i mean, don't know when i'll go la. they see well luxury and, but also the extinction of certain species and people dying on this planet with whom one of them in florida, delaware, but it's okay. i don't think it is enough is to seek individual answers to these issue with one of a new allowed follow that we need global, all encompassing, and certainly some we classes, he will pull up. that's why i'm always looking to forge new alliances. adopt new perspectives, and take new steps that can bring about the changes our planet desperately needs set up. where did you wanna come to? kelley leo clinton was at a bill in autumn, 2018 santa saint o showcased his on an installation at paris is played to tokyo, contemporary aunt venue it focused on the importance of ad and how we as a species of polluting this vital element

santa center set up 76 spiderwebs to make the ammo tangible as it were. spiders have inhabited the us, the hundreds of millions of years, and he's dead to spin that intricate webb's kristen would have been going bluff way. spider webs were a starting point. the law onion, i have been fascinated by them for a very, a long time job is that they're connected to the spider, so they are a part of their body to not. and you know, lighter can only since a small bug is near because of the vibrations it sends through the web with the asian requests and data without the webinar. but it could neither feel nor see it's trained in all the way i get what i see it on. most spiders that make webs are blind from a different by creating a web people, they're essentially creating their own sensory ability. villa had roughly allowing

them to feel the world and other species around them. we particular the installation translated, the vibrations of spite as movements into audio signals, creating a kind of arachnoid symphony. we mean, i mean b. ready here, tiny dust particles attract and also transformed into sounds. the more people pass through this room, the more the particles world around the spiders register these movements and sounds, creating a form of interaction between them and the visitors ah

and present go alex as an article, la taylor in person has started with my obsession with spider web an as him, so we set out making all kinds of them makena corner lead technique. we also in been to the machine together with the technical university of darmstadt, k. they brought my idea to life. i thought with the like the basically the machine uses laser signal to weave intricate, well, for the article to really tell us will complete us with the lady went, oh, i mean she, if we were center that got many academics interest in a communist leaving up until then lucas and nobody had managed to create such a detailed map of the spider webs and was aligned to really my team. and so i got invited by the massachusetts institute of technology and max planck institute organ, and studies spiderweb ayella and their surroundings. and we to better understand these greener bit. i think that anya, better than that amanda selena. ah,

to us on, angie's right, along with vidas spiderwebs in recently is they've paid an important role in his are told us was exactly fascinated him about them. and when did this fascination starts us out on? yes or to call me says that that our article in is it. what will i post say you work with spiders? i always say no. if alice spiders work with me, middle aged, as they've been here for more than 200000000 years, and so we can only learn from them. and not the other way around about my work is almost anthropological and attempt to reconstruct today's image of what it means to be humanly this collection of bacteria and other inhabitants. because i'm trying to redefine our relationship to those with whom we share the planet plenty to know together with natural scientists. santa seno has set up his own lab in his studio in berlin to study spiders and that behavior with me personally at 3 o'clock in day. what strikes me at my studio is that many people

still suffer from a ragged phobia. isn't this a terrible fear of spiders and are in a studio? oh, 2nd. ok. let's have it. and when people visit the studio and realize that it's largely populated by spiders and spider web has always say many of them grow uncomfortable for these comfort. ah ah, we just didn't know. so if we kept puppies or kittens here, people would say, oh, what pretty little they don't usually do that when they see spiders. somebody think yet, spiders are very different. the less, you must aim, not only to differentiate between the various species, but to see what unites spiders and what separates them from one another, lack of a mother to discover the co relationships and synergies between species. he could buy something when he come into one of the spider nets have

a special symbolism because you see all these connections. these threads which go from one side to the other. lean yeah, by they deliver it out. so if you ask me, what fascinates me most about spiders, it's the special beauty of their web november some we represent. mm . in his installation switch, take up entire rims. santa senate continually plays with the patterns and shapes found in his spider webs. visitors can even enter into a huge web and experienced the weld from a spider's perspective. marcela soda? no. nope. nope. is that okay with many of my work since i'm not thinking about the speculator the order. i'm also not thinking about the outside world, which makes us feel foreign or different, little how could with these work, i'm trying to create something all encompassing for when to visit. so that's why i like to work with really large surfaces. anderson if you move around on one side of

this, well all the people on the other side move to like walk. i think when i move around visual i cause vibrations which influenced the space journey that i did i me and the spiders respond bishop. oh, well thought maybe this will let us find a new way of communicating with one another. no, he knew it. my work is about creating these kinds of connection is and called out at the l. okay. it's not just about seeing what's around us. thank tech centers, welcome it. i'm interested in interactions. it any time with him on a variety of levels and with different groups of people. oh little boy came to know what can we learn about ourselves from working with other species? and does this change the way we deal with one another? sarah, senate doesn't aim to definitively own says such questions. rather he uses his arts to get people's thinking. in his work algorithms, visitors enter an interactive network, they see and feel the vibrations triggered by themselves and others

sink when he employees, many different disciplines in his arts, astrophysics, form, engineering, biology. he even explores musical composition with the help of spiders. why is this kind of interdisciplinary work so important to handle forecast on import. thank that brought up you think that connects young the simply nadia commodities. the put it out. i told him because it keeps opening up new world. so when you only look at a phenomenon from one perspective, you're missing out on all the other perspective, hilton, me as the other ways of syncing reality or thinking about it is that it seems to me that these days, we often forget about these other realities. so hoping to prompt people to change that perspective and encourage dialogue sorta center always presents the results of his exchanges with natural scientists and experts from a variety of disciplines. he,

once aunt lovers to be open to and engage with a broad spectrum of ideas. ready ready ah one that's captured santos and his imagination is humans long held fascination with flying in from you. they were latin in our time, the dream of flight has turned into a nightmare uniform. that's due to the way we fly as a sort of back over the back. little flying is a total disaster because we're reliant on fossil fuels on lithium muscle, on batteries or other kinds of raw materials. extracting each doctor pony their extraction, endangers the survival of many species given. but i think i can go down before we need to find new ways of making the notion of flight a possible dream. again, rather north lake than willow communicating this when you

for years santa seno has been experimenting with flying arrow solis sculptures that a variety of locations around the globe. these free floating sculptures on lifted only by the sun and carried only by the wind and enable flight without the consumption of fossil fuel. a radical concept ah, this is how thomas said, i say no, started to become interested in the possibilities of a new age. one he calls ever seen the aerial iraq, but i still think they will muscle propel hill. i bulgaria. i think the term that best describes the era we're living in now is the capitalist. i don't cynical, the age of ramp and capitalism, but honestly they will hold the arrow seen as an epoch of home. i'm in an age which

is radically different from the cabinet. allison. hey, kate, i think i've been to the think that, ah, capital zeno into the toilet cause i could everything that changes our habits, but not the climate lead helps to usher in a new era. he was one, we call the era seen a policy that an aerial age and also an era in which we demonstrate awareness of one another and of the environment advocate and work together to invent new rituals and new customs to create this iraq or 3 don't. i book a home dasa is kinda thomas said, i say nose errors seen projects requires a radical re thing, canal pot dwindling natural resources, rising emissions, climate change on the extinction of many species or destroying the very basis of our life on us. but era seen places and not human beings at the center of things

protecting, not polluting the element that keeps us alive is its main goal. a way of making amends to mother ref. while that may sound like a utopian ideal, santa seno and his team have already proven that some of their ideas work in the real world. in argentina, the iris seen foundation team has already set several world records. among them, the 1st mand fully so left free flight with a hot air balloon. it reached a height of 272 meters covered 1.7 kilometers and was ab owen for over an hour. the teens next goal is to be able to transport several people at once, powered only by the sun's ultraviolet race and fulfilling the dream of emissions free air travel. conversely, underneath electrical thought, when these sculptures rise up, the 1st thing people say is that how can that be? it's mesmerized into a magical moment. hipaa,

her but suddenly the sculpture turned in and there's something on it that was written by another person against me. it's like an onion, the more layers you peel away on his the more questions arise as to how these things appear. so record faculty with co luna d nicholson. we just got back from argentina. winnable. we were working a lot with indigenous communities there when we for this, they have taken a clear stand against the colonial processes endangering their environment. and our initial thought is that there lithium mining going on in their territory and she lay argentina, sheila and bolivia board of the area where this so called white gold as being mine . he said, okay, but i thought i don't. and for every ton of lithium, we know that 2000000 liters of water are required. dessler kind of there are 71 kilos of lithium and one tesla. again, this is an area already plagued by drought that was act played a little or if we start to excavate lithium to satisfy the consumerism of today's

capitalistic society and they go every one who lives on the edge of the cellar. the salt plaid will die allotted he, along with the animals and the vegetation. there he, the communities who live there will be forced to leave. doesn't want to for my escrow, wasn't been oh that's why we're asking. how can we change our habits so that it doesn't lead to climate change last? october requires us what kind of habits and rhythms does the planet desperately require to regain its equilibrium for can you know, out of the pathetic, we can't wait for every one to agree golf tournament. air travel will have to be very different in the future. it will kill you at a loss in the library. well, for lighting to uh, like a helicopter india santa centers project has become a global movement artists, scientists, designers, and activists have joined the kerosene foundation that he set up. a

community has grown up. it's one that comes together and engages in making a dion of lincoln the biggest that again, which will moment. okay. but i like the thought of a community that works like a collective i. so i'm walking dell, although that's why we've established 2 foundations. i can ophelia pick, one of them is called iraq. filiano lasagna is elected. unlike arachne fopes, it's members or friends to spiders and their webs could be in it is a non profit organization that is working to save certain ecosystems, the famous and as it is, a kind of community of friends that also exists beyond the studio. tomas out of santa latoya foot is doyle. this community is researching how we can ensure the long term existence of certain ecosystems and life forms know that only those they

look weird, i'll say no to the 2nd community that has sprung up out of the studio is called arrow seen. but i mean this to consists of people working in the studio as well as an ever growing impassioned community of people outside who are pursuing it as a hobby. if they are people who believe that we can change our way of life and not just by changing individual mobility, but by founding a movement for change, public, i'm you santa center and the era scene community have developed and explore recreating collaboration with mit and the red cross, it enables anyone to build a floating explorer sculpture and calculate its flight path and flight duration via e. so software. each flight gathers data about air quality, temperature, and humidity, and pressure, which is fed back into the software, giving us more and more information about our planets. and what said ascent o cools it's highways in the sky. like the jet stream for instance. ever seen is an

open invitation to every one who is fighting for a future free of fossil fuels and dreaming of a new kind of boundless, borderless nobility. santa center slogan is from home, a sappy ends to homo fatalities. oh, glad acount goal for me aren't always means and are going dialogue or in exchange. go on that, for example, the art involving the spiders and spiders was one that old mill valley. we have to form new alliances and new ways of working to understand our world killer. the categories that exist day tend to separate us from one another, rather than to unite us sienna, go away. sa capacity al, it seems to me that art can help us in this process for where they can art has this ability, this generosity or this innocence is that the people who say no in art, you continue to search with child like innocence and noise. and it seems to me that that is exactly what can help us to see the world. with other eyes for latino sat,

a fennel is continually venturing out with childlike curiosity into the world's limits. he can better understand our planet and our cosmos. we've done it really. oh, oh lord, given his project event horizon has taken him to the unique salt flats. in bolivia, the artist is fascinated by the way the horizon quite literally dissolves. with in the early hours of the morning, a very thin layer of water vapor hovers above the surface of the flats. and for just a few moments, the horizon looks as if it has been erased. the surface of the earth forms a giant mira of the universe that surrounds us. it's

a fascinating meditative phenomenon. you can even see reflections of light emitted by the lodge magdalana clouds and neighboring universe 163000 light years away. oh, did you fix your solution to reception about the future? is central significance, xyz landrum, and go? what plans does he have for his own food? check your plan to stay in bottles. dimples when you look benefit wood flooring. we'll say, even though a 100 full co, any mas, my plans for the future are to continue working as we have done recently, o de la fen, at the same time, to increasingly question the logistics of the art industry, the transport of artwork and my own mobility mrs. ya who to for and to consider alternative ways for us artists to be present as well if, if, if we become conscious of our planet and its atmosphere, then we should also start to show solidarity with all of the others on board. the

co passengers in our world to plan it, we need to consider how we can continue this journey together and we'll talk to theater. ah, tomasetti santo's work is opening our eyes to what's going on here. and now it's also an invitation to engage with burning questions about of teacher here for doorknob. when a brown boy, if it, oh, can i hope that the balloon that lifted off with 2 passengers and who he province and will soon be able to carry 3 or 4 people out? i will send you almost, i will see him. and if we can already fly at an altitude of up to 272 meters for almost 2 hours. but then i hope that in the future you'll be able to travel to interview me from colombia, for example, without your having to take a plane, said the lesson, i don't know, but the journey is the destination, the journey we will often lose our way on this journey so happened,

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