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standing shopping and dining offers. enjoy our services. be our guest at frankfurt airport city, managed by from board lou. ah ah . this is dw news live from berlin, russell labels, ukraine's as our regiment, a terrorist organization in court in moscow rules the far right fighters can face harsh sentences. many are in russian prisons waiting to hear their face. also coming up on the show, the u. s. hills,
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one of the alleged the main plotters of the 911 attacks my direction. united states successfully concluded there's trade than cowboy, afghanistan, and kill the mirror alone. carter m i l z. our guidance as a drone strike in the afghan capital took out the terrorist commander. and us house speaker, nancy pelosi is due in taiwan. within the hour, her visit is in defiance of dire warnings. from china. our correspondent is standing by in taipei with the latest. ah, hello, i'm claire richardson. thank so much for joining us. russia is a supreme court has ruled that ukraine's as all regiment is a terrorist organization. the decision may allow har sentences against fighters who are now as prisoners of war. the awesome regiment as
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a ukrainian military unit with a far right and nationalist background. it was the focus of russia's claims about fascist elements in ukraine. in many fought in the month long seas at a steel plant in mario ball. russian back to separatists are calling for them to be executed will get more from our correspond and keep in just a moment. but let's take a closer look 1st at what the as of regiment s. this was the as of still works earlier this year. inside thousands of fighters from the so called as of regiment, from within the tunnels under the steel plant, the regiments leaders sent out video messages. this is the, this is our repeal to the world as could be the last appeal of our lives. we are probably facing our last days if not hours. the enemy out numbers us $10.00 to $1.00, but it is enough. they didn't last much longer. order to surrender by the government
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and keith, the steel plants defenders were taken prisoner. russian officials called them nazis . the group does have a far right history. it was founded in 2014 as a volunteer militia to fight pro russian separatists and the don bass region. current members have rejected being called nationalists or radicals. however, they say they're patriots. russian media also said the grouped mistreated civilians and matter you poll, but without evidence videos showed fighters helping civilians evacuate in the days before the surrender. since then, the captured fighters have become pawns and the game potential assets in an eventual swap or ceasefire negotiations. as the war groans on without them and is at the correspond, burger to shaka has been reporting for us from keith arbor. go to what has been.
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the reaction in ukraine was just spoken to relatives of these other fighters, and they told us they are deeply shocked. and the only thing they want to say openly is that russia is a terrorists that the state. so this message comes to shock to many ukrainians, because for them there are other fighters, our heroes, because they have been defending the city of mario poor for 4 months. and even after they surrendered for many them here they, as i said, they are heroes. and the, the people are here we spoke to today. they are really furious because this news only comes days after a detention center in russian. heard, aline fca was shells in attack on a detention center where as of fighters were detained. and russia and ukraine are blaming each other for having and being responsible for that attack. but m a
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satellite imagery and other evidence seems to support the claim of ukraine. that it was russia who is responsible for that attack. and over the past days, we have been seeing a lot of a protest, sir. industry has also presidents lensky has asked the international community to recognize russia as a terrorist state. so we gotta do we know what this decision will mean for those as a fighters were being held in russia when these, their round about 2500 fighters surrendered to the russians. they were registered by the red cross s so called prisoners of war. and that would mean under the geneva convention that they are not that it's not allowed to charge them only for fighting in that war. but this changes if they are recognized
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terrorist organization, then they could face big chargers and even in the dunbar, republic officials have said they could even get the death sentence. so this is, this is a really hard situation also for the relative, but i just spoke to her to a lawyer here in ukraine. it, he said, it might be only like political game by russia to like raise their suit to say bell, you off the prisoners in this, in a possible prisoner swap or in, in negotiations for a peace agreement. so their relatives are that they don't know what to think here if, if it's just like if they are just pawns or if it's a really threat. but many here are very worried because many have are relatives or friends in the army. and when they might get prisoners of war,
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they fearing this pattern of russian, we have been seeing over the past months to criminalize the prisoners of war. okay . forget a shocker in care of. thank you so much for your reporting. let's go now to another important development in the war. grain shipments from ukraine have restarted andrei, united nations deal to end russia's block, a exports of wheat, corn, and other commodities were halted at the start of the war in february, causing a global food shortage. a sign of hope for many the 1st cargo ship to leave ukraine. since the start of the conflict, there are 26000 tons of cone on board, headed to lebanon with a very relieved crew. total obama. and it's so liberating after being stuck here for so long. it's an incredible feeling to be able to return to my homeland about about 20000000 tons of grain, a still waiting to be exported from ukraine. but this 1st ship is an important
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start, says you in secretary general gutierrez, these sheep dimensions vessel rosanna is loaded with 2 commodities in short supply corps. and hope. hope for millions of people that on the old will depend on the smooth running of ukraine sports to feed their families. the ship has made it out of ukrainian waters and is due to enter the boss for a straight for you and inspection on tuesday night. meanwhile, in ukrainian ports on the black sea, 16 more grain freighters are waiting to depart early. our correspondent dorian jones told us what happens once the ship arrives in turkey? well, this is coming a very crucial stage ahead of us in the around 8 o'clock local time. in the morning, wednesday, we will see a turkish boarding party with a russians and ukrainians in the united nations. and they will inspect the ship to see that everything is carrying is according to the the stated that creation of the
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ship. now every shipping ball hope leaving, i'm going to ukraine will have to be search by these are parties of ukrainians. russians took united nations and all of this has been cooled, make it here in the sample at the joint coordination center. and this task is seen as crucial for the ongoing success of this program that talking about in the region of needing a 100 ships a month if they are going to meet the talk to 5000000 pounds a month. so this process of searching and so and signing off on each ship, these to go ahead smoothly. and this person should start on wednesday is seen as key to the whole process going forward. that happens according to plan the ship within a few hours will sail down the balls 1st and then onto the mom received behind me, and then on to 11 and to live, to deliver urgently needed cold. i was due to the correspondent dorian jones. well, the us says it has killed the leader of al qaeda. i my hours are harry in a drone strike in afghanistan,
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he was one of the founders of the terrorist group and was in hiding for more than a decade. see a targeted man. they believe with central to the 911 attacks in the heart of this wealthy cobble neighbourhood where many taliban leaders reside. the head of al qaeda found a hide out, but not out of washington's sides. the u. s. official says i am on als away. harry was identified on multiple occasions, spending time on the balcony of the house, where he was eventually struck early on sunday morning. now we have eliminated the mirror of our kyler. he will never again, never again. oh our carriage down to become a tour. so shaven because he is gone and we're going to make sure nothing else happens. you know, i can't be a launching prevalence united states. we're going to see to that won't happen. the gyptian bonds are why harry was osama bin laden's right hand man. before later
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succeeding him as head of al qaeda. but you are says he was actively involved in planning the september 11th attacks in the us, as well as other al qaeda operations, including 2 u. s embassy bombings in east africa in 1998. and the attack on the u. s. s. cole warship in yemen, in 2000. following the strike that killed him, the taliban accused the us of violating international principles and the door agreement. but for the americans, if the taliban who's broken that 2020 accord by providing cover for so i re who's killing is the 1st known us strike in afghanistan since washington pulled out its troops a year ago for more unless i'm joined by journalists offense. my see, who has lived in and reported from afghanistan for many years. i want to ask you 1st what your reaction was to the fact that owls are why harry was located in the capitol in a well to do neighborhood of cobble. was that surprising to you?
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yes, it was, and i would dare to say that it was surprising to anybody. i'm to maybe set the scene to context was not surprising as since a tale mom take over to have been credible reports of non african jihad. he's including all kind of members at least visiting or temporarily staying in called hulu, so that such people pass through was known and, but that's to liter himself is residing in central coll glue. that was certainly a surprise. i think the big question that follows on from that as a given that i was, i was here. he had been living in such a central location where the tell him on helping to shelter him and his family. it's very hard to imagine that the taliban did not know about that. the question was rather under what circumstances has happened and whether to tale bon might have restricted also he in some way or whether they gave him full support on. but
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it's almost odd imaginable that they didn't know or if they wouldn't have known, ah, that would also be a very, very bad sign for to tale bon, if they don't know what's going on in right in front of them. and what are the implications of that? that's hard to say. oh though a he was a reclusive leader, also more seen and of almost philosopher scholar and not necessarily the practical guy. so i guess like $1.00 to $1.00, there will be limited stiring. the impact on the in direct impact how this will affect the taliban regime stance towards to west or the u. s. stands towards of contest on. this can have implications, but for all kind i itself, it will probably take longer all so depending on will succeed him. if all high law
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of will confirm that their leaders actually that and announce a successor. and anyone remembered the operation that killed osama bin laden uh, back in 2011. how did this operation differ? it was practically completely different. so here we're talking about the cia jerome . i'm apparently deploying a very specific warheads to kill, although he so no u. s. boots on the ground, i'm also a lot of intelligence collection, apparently present biden's sets that they were following confirming. so he is present since month in about about it was completely different. we're talking about in search and insert insertion off an american special forces to, to what ground rate on to hunt down the targets. so these are completely different motors, so put on the what is the same is that it was one of the top man on the most wanted list that connect still probations are and that it was po folk hide all the
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wise. it's pretty much completely different. the u. s. as saying only is our hurry was killed in this strike, no members of his family were harmed. our local sources also reflecting that a pile of casualties off his family. i haven't heard any thing. they are somewhat credible reports that told tale bon members might have died from the hall county family basis, however, not confirmed yet. ok, journalist friends, marty, thank you so much for that update. i'm gonna bring up to speed now on some other stories making headlines around the world. protestors are occupying iraq's parliament for a 4th day, followers of the powerful cleric mach tata all a sudden storms be fortified, government zone and are vowing to remain in the building. thousands of counter protesters have also rallied demanding that outsiders supporters leave parliament
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immediately. and voters in kansas are deciding whether to remove the right to abortion from the u. s. states constitution. access could be limited or band. kansas is the 1st state to vote since the supreme court revoked the national right to abortion engine. and british airways is suspending sales of short hall flight from london heathrow airport for the next week. he though, has kept the number of departing passengers because of staff shortages. airport has asked airlines to stop selling tickets and to cut flights while you as how speaker nancy pelosi is expected to land in taiwan in the next hour, l o. c has not commented on the possible trip, but officials expect her to stop overnight. she's left malaysia on the next leg of an asian tor china says it would view any visit to taiwan as a provocation and could take strong action in response phasing these taiwan as its own territory. the biden administration is against the stop over bought says policy
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does have the right to visit. you haven't told me that you thank have team coverage of this vent of this event. a joy now by deed of your correspondence. zachary li, in taipei standing by for us at the airport, i would be in the studio is dw chief international editor richard walker ritual come to you in just a 2nd. a zachary, i want to begin with you 1st and just ask you, do we have any official confirmation of policies visit yet? yes. actually, we have the latest information. this is cram type believe the type of confirm that nancy pelosi were arrived at the airport at 10 p. m local time, which is actually a few minutes ago. we haven't seen any meaning for here yet, but you can see behind me there's a lot of police officers and also security team here are deployed near tape here airport as well. we can see some people here. they are showing their support for
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nancy pelosi in the actually will come me and as they pull out this be the entire p . so we are now taking her bid her staff over here in taylor. okay. standing by waiting for it to arrive any minute. now, i'm richard. why would nancy pelosi take this trip now? it's been clear that the biden administration has not been happy about it. many of the top leadership have urged her not to go on this trip. so why the time? and yeah, it is interesting is near me that to watch the biden administration's positioning on this because the last kind of official comment came from the spokesperson for the national security council. yesterday's, are really trying to sort of tone the whole thing down and say, look, that the speaker of the harris has every right to go to taiwan to this happened that happened already in the late 19 ninety's in that past pretty much without incident. and, you know, calling on the chinese not to hype this up, but, but we have seen in recent weeks and even through and one comment for, from biden himself that there is some unease about this. i think it, it, a lot of it comes down to not just the sort of unusual nurse of this visit. i mean,
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the 1st time in 25 years in american political figure. so stature. but also the timing at the time when the war is going on in ukraine to the united states is in a dramatic standoff with russia. and the whole west is part of that as well. and, and it was, you know, supporters of this visit say that it's exactly in that kind of situation that you have to show solidarity with taiwan. that the situation you release bose is the vulnerability of tie one. it really kind of casa light on, on the risks that tie one faces of per potential invasion by china. and a counter argument goes, no, this is exactly the time that you shouldn't be doing anything to potentially provoke china into, into taking some kind of steps. her to, you know, kind of a show of force or in response to this. and that the united states cannot afford to have 2 similar tanius crises with its biggest 2 rivals in the world. it is simply
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not in a position to do that. and therefore for stability is called for and restraint is call for. so there's a kind of the arguments that been going on in the u. s. in the last few weeks is a really interesting point. you bring up there, richard isaac, right? when i asked you then with for the view from taiwan, how are people in taipei looking at the war in ukraine and russia's invasion to they see that in their own local circumstances. your lot of people say low the, you grew up with them. bull lead trailyn most there are military, he play one is more solid leaving them. but until the po and his people are very used to china grades in the past few years, they load the, with the think are low chain. now with a tech i want, i've spoken with a local people and as 3 i actually don't show any concerns regarding located from b g o. signer has made very serious comments. they said the u. s. is playing with fire that it will pay the price at zachary,
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are you say people aren't worried on the streets? do they think that there will be some kind of at least political or economic consequences from this? well, you fax last one is company already stopped from a plan which has placed by china this morning that china has already placed the spend imploding from tie one some time. when is company my face big mostly from the spend. so in fact, even those people, they don't feel cause they don't have any concerns about chinese bombay gene. they actually suffered richard, it sounds like the us doesn't have any interest in really testing it's relations with china at the moment. yeah, i mean, i think the, the u. s. administration is primarily interested instability in the region and in trying to restore stability, obviously in the situation surrounding ukraine at the moment. now we know that joe
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biden recently had a 2 hour phone call with jim ping where they talked about taiwan to a great extent. and in the course of that phone call, what the chinese released in terms of quotes from teaching, paying. he was saying that, you know, things like, don't play with fire. so you know, really strong warnings to the us, you know, saying that you really have to stop this visit from happening. and i think, i think this is going to be really a test for have a situation developed. the chinese have put themselves rhetorically into quite a position where, where they've said, we really don't want this visit to happen. you have to acknowledge our warnings. if you play with fire, you will get burn this kind of language. and they put themselves into a kind of rhetorical corner where if you use that kind of threatening language, then you have to follow through on it to some extent. so what we just heard from, zachary, is maybe a kind of a 1st step which came through, which is that, yeah, ban on imports to china from a 100 taiwanese companies, i think, involved in the food and agricultural sector. but there been some other things to
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which may be connected, there was a cyber attack on the president. so websites, or during the course of today on the website saying when they've been further incursions by the chinese into what's called the ad defense information zone around taiwan. they're been on chinese social media. they've been sightings, of pretty heavy weaponry on the move in the city of sherman, which is the closest chinese city to taiwan. so initial signs of the kind of things that the chinese may be doing in response to that in response to this. but i think also it's to smash what happens in the next 24 hours. it's also a matter of what happens in the next months ahead. how this affects us china relations. the u. s. would very much like to try to restrain china, try to stop china or prevent china from helping russia in the ukraine war. for instance, if the chinese think, well, you know, the u. s. is simply not respecting our red lines over taiwan. they may have less
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incentive to do that. so i think what is not just the of what, not just what we see in the next 24 hours. what is the effect on us china relations in the next months ahead is going to be something we'll want to watch closely. ok, richard and zachary, thank you so much for those updates. i'm going to be coming back to you in just a moment, but as we await the us how speakers arrival, let's take a closer look at those recent tensions between washington and beijing over taiwan, and learn a little bit more about why this trip is so controversial he didn't, don't play with fire. that was chinese president. she came ping's message to his u. s. counterpart tow biden. in the most recent talks, china claims the u. s. is dangerously close to crossing a line on taiwan with its messages of support for the islands. independence in may biden broke with years of us policy by promising military support. if china tried to invade, winds will close. oh, my movements. are you willing to get involved militarily to defend taiwan? if it comes to that? yes, you are. that's
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a commitment. we made the ss, china is the one disrupting the status quo of the past year. sheeting ping has provoked taiwan with incursions into its air defense identification sounds and calls for an end to taiwanese self through food. woo, on the historical mission of the reunification of the motherland, must be and will surely be realised, negotiate they do exist, the island satony's territory temporarily occupied by the political airs of those who lost the chinese civil war. in 1949. since then, taiwan has governed itself, running regular military and civilian drills to prepare for possible chinese invasion to pass that china has laid out. also neither a free and democratic way of life for taiwan. no sovereignty for are 23000000 people. men in the west seed as a fight between democracy and authoritarianism. but that's not the only reason why
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the u. s. is involved. taiwan is integral to u. s. strategy to check china's power in the pacific. the taiwan strait is one of the most important shipping lanes in global trade. and the majority of the world advanced semiconductors, is it everything from smartphones to cars are made on the island? if china successfully imposes its rule anti one, that would be a big blow to the u. s. and a victory for shooting being. but he and biden have a lot to lose it. they know a full blown war could be the worst case scenario for both. the countries won't do heartless dive back into that. we have richard in the studio, and zachary, standing by for us in for the airport in taipei us. actually i want to ask what we expect from this trip from policy after she touches down. well, we've got them a release by some, so stays on them. so say from the pilot discover bed. i don't think it's expected
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to meet. i was president how you would on wednesday? well, i won't be mia. susan talked in some low makers here. also, she might probably meet some activity here who have been outspoken about china human rights. and this is a and then she will go to south korea and justin. richard, i'm, we've been, you know, been around the bush on this issue, but i want to ask you, what would happen? the big question, if the, from the us and the e, if we did it see an invasion of tie one of china. i mean, that's clearly the worst case scenario that you see ah ah ah
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