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a really much done without the bundis league. oh, well, don't worry. we'll start up again soon. as legal football, action goals, all in on kick off starts august 9th here on d w. finally, the speaker has landed after weeks of speculation and not quite denials. us how speak and nancy pelosi has landed in taiwan, and china is livid beijing stepping up military drills around the island. it claims as its territory and russia has seized this opportunity to back china's claim to neighboring territory as a purely internal matter. so what happens next?
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i'm fo gail in berlin and this is the day ah, will be keeping a close eye on pillows, east trip and she didn't lawyer. this is another property of action by the u. s. administration to fit additional pressure on people. what i can tell you is that the u. s. will bear the responsibility and pay the price for undermining china. sovereignty and security interest also coming up. russia's energy squeeze on europe. one of the use biggest gas feels
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was slated for closure because it's causing earthquakes. now there's pressure to keep it producing, which is worried many residents plus people are afraid with an next earthquake that the roof will come down and well, the beams may lanham you. welcome to the day we begin aware the visit that's taking place despite the threat of a major diplomatic incident. the speaker of the us house of representatives, nancy pelosi has landed in taiwan, in her words, to honor america's unwavering commitment to supporting time one's vibrant democracy . that support is against the growing might of china, which regards the island is chinese territory, beijing seas. if it is a major provocation and has announced military exercises, that will practically surround the self ruling island in the coming days. taiwan says the 1st chinese war planes entered its air defense zone soon after pelosi landed. well, nancy pelosi didn't make a statement when she touch down,
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but she did publish a series of tweets after her arrival in taipei. they included this american solidarity with the 23000000 people of taiwan is more important today than ever. as the world faces a choice between autocracy and democracy. let's take a closer look at this with my 1st guest tonight. that's that theresa fallon, who's director of the center for russia, europe, asia studies. she joins us from brussels. welcome to the w. nancy pelosi says she's in taiwan to show america solidarity with its people. if you are having an honest heart to heart with joe biden, i do think he would answer that question the question. what's nancy really doing? well there are some mixed messages sent out before nancy pelosi went, but as speaker, she has she's part of the 3 organs of government and she does have the program to travel there. they did try to convince her not to go there. it's a great deal loving her not to go, but i would say that today there has been such
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a groundswell of support and she has managed it quite well. actually, there was also an op ed that was very persuasive that was published today in the washington post. now tomorrow we'll see what, how the meetings go. but she's also going to be meeting with democracy protesters from hong kong. so this is kind of what changed the whole narrative for tie one. the one is narrative really went to pear shaped after what happened in hong kong. so i think the thing has created a lot of these situations, current landscape. and i think that her symbolic this, it has even just wanting to put it in for walking into tell that the grounds, 12 support a taiwanese people was overwhelming and also president biden. do you remember we had his democracies some it, he's supposed to be a proponent of democracy and by going there showing a huge support for democracy and it's such a vibrant democracy, there will be
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a meeting of 2 women leaders to discuss democracy. so i think it's a very powerful message to whole region. of course, as the china is the angry reaction to a certain extent, we can brush off the rhetoric because that's what we call to expect from china. but what do you think beijing means when they talk about responding with targeted military actions? i think the message that beijing is sending will actually boomerang and she jumping, he wants quiet, he wants peace in the run up to the party congress and he's not getting that at all . so now they have surrounded taiwan with extra military exercises, like fire military exercises and many and let's say this is a kind of a preparation for a blockade for possibly a future invasion of taiwan. so they're sending a very strict message to the taiwanese and also to other countries in the region. and by having live, fight your exercises in all areas around taiwan is also very worrying. so yes,
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they might be popular label china's version of twitter. but that's policy actually broke way, but today they couldn't keep up with all the post on label. and so it seemed overwhelmingly that the public doesn't want to were in china, that this type of narrative is not very effective. and so i think that maybe she didn't ping has a really bad case of bad coping brain. he hasn't left the country in 3 years. and i think that's all this pressure about the party congress when he wants to change the norms and stay in power longer than his 2 terms has perhaps affected his judgment. right. and then of course, there's russia. let's hear from the russian foreign ministry spokeswoman maria zachary over and then come back to michigan. we regard the resolution of the taiwan strait situation as a purely internal chinese matter. we swim. is that what we say there is only one china, the p r. c. government is the so legitimate government of all china and taiwan is an integral part of china only changed for theresa fallon. so far,
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the rest is convince china not to arm russia, even if the west pores weapons into ukraine. is nancy pelosi strip likely to change beijing's mind. we should remember the february 4th, no limits agreement that was signed between. she's paying and president putin in the run up to the olympics. this was a symbol of how they are backing each other, how they are cooperating. and it's no surprise that russia has back to china's position, even though some analysts are trying to say that china doesn't really want to support russia. that's not true at all. and i think it's in china's own interest. they're fearful of secondary sanctions. if china does support russia with weapons that will trigger you as a secondary sanctions. so i think that china is helping russia by buying oil, and i think that they're getting a discount on that as well. so there is mutual support for russia and china. we really have to see the world as it is not as we would like it to be. some people
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have said that, you know, of course, this is, i know, unless it's a 2 front war. maybe china and russia could cooperate by causing more problems in the balkans since china has so many weapons in serbia and including their drone program. so i think that there is room for mr. between russia and china, coordinating in other regions, but i think that it serves china's purpose is to have a we can rasa over the longer term. so right. they can just say we can't tell you anything because of us sanctions a publicly of course, a taiwan has welcome to visit, but china is already responded by batting various taiwanese import. doing so i pay is likely to have to pick up the bill for this party. food imports make up a very, very small percentage of exports from taiwan to china. so it's sort of that 100 products now and it's been backed up to 2000 and this is more symbolic in my mind. and other things in taiwan will gain huge risks. everyone is talking about i
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want these days and for saying what, and this gives them more credibility on the international stage. since beijing has been trying so hard to limit their ability to take action, they don't want other people to visit with them. and i think nancy pelosi, the actions have been consistent over 30 years. we remember that night, teen 91. she and i mean square and, and for all the better in support of the who died for democracy. so she's been consistent for over 30 years on her policy in regard to the people's republic of china. so i think that i was happy to see her come and support them and actually has helped pave the way for other people to visit type one because i think she has actively lobby and trying to prevent others from coming to visit. so i think this is a very important symbol, and i think nancy pelosi against all odds and all the naysayers who didn't want her to go. and it's really showing you know that she supports democracy and has so far
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so good also tomorrow goes to i will be a key day. theresa fallon: very clear and very interesting. thank you so much for joining d. w a falling from the center of russia. europe, asia studies. thank you. thank you. we'll try to florence on official protests with the german embassy in beijing, us after foreign minister on a bad bach, criticized chinese aggression towards taiwan. on monday, after a speech to the you and she said, germany stands united with the u. s. we share american concerns. we have painfully learned over the past month with february 24th. that aggressive authority can turn into a dangerous action. china's comments was regard to tiven, raise serious questions. it cannot be in our interest if china is creating on top of this excessive economic dependency in its region.
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will they w i correspond mckayla. kaufman was out on the 11th burbock speech in new york, and she described what the foreign minister had to say regarding nancy pelosi, his visit to taiwan. about those comments came to upset china. he said that it simply wasn't acceptable in relation to russia that a biggest state could attack a smaller neighbor. and that international law also applies to china. now that didn't go down. well, a protest was delivered to the german ambassador in beijing. and, and clearly this to so chinese reflex when that is criticism. although we have learned out of the background here that there is no interest to really make a clear statement of reaction on that visit. it appears just like the united states . they want to see this visits, speak for itself and not add fuel to the fire because quite clearly what we are
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seeing from the chinese side. there is quite a bit of anger over this visit. the. the foreign minister also called for strengthening of the comes atlantic alliance. what does she mean by them? so what? yes, well, she held a speech on see thing the trans atlantic moment. that is a rather nice way of saying of the rediscovery of transatlantic bonds, the reliance on the united states in the light of the ukraine war and m. c. there says that it's hina is of course a common concern. and a more alignment with the u. s. policy on china is what she's hinting at, and that could mean taking a toughest dance, but that could also mean after the failure to get that transatlantic trade agreement together. that there could be individual steps that could amount to something like a closer trade for a while. and the foreign minister also said the germany had abandoned its long how
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the belief in the concept of change through trade. what does she mean by that? this is very interesting because this is the question that i'm going to michael, the former german sansa avoided doing this final months of being in office when she was asked with the example of china. whether that was proof that it, that this concept had failed. she simply didn't want to answer that very question. and here on, elena babcock is stating that quite clearly. and what she means is having less trade reliance as she cited ukraine. and with germany's europe's heavy reliance on ross and gas as a negative example. and in relation to china, that's my mean, she is her argument to have less dependence in certain aspects of production as supply lines, not to have to discover that there can't be any certain medicine so can, can no longer be delivered at home because of the high reliance on sign it. so
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reducing that, i think there she is very much in line with what america, both under trump and under bite and has been calling for for a long time. clearly these european, german rethinking that trade relations to china. i thank you for that. these have been corresponded mckenna cooper in new york. ah, a russia supreme court has rule that ukraine's as of regiment is a terrorist organization. a decision that may allow harsh sentences against fighters who are now russians, prisoners of war. the ruling comes just days after dozens of ukrainian peer, w, as from the, as off battalion were killed by the shelling of a prison in separatist control. do you crime cave, call the attack on me all. any cup, prisoners, deliberate, russian war, crime, russia, blame you. crime for the shelling. money of the ukrainian prisoners had surrendered after the months long siege of the city of manual. oh,
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the awesome regiment is or ukrainian military unit with a far rife and nationalist background. it was the focus of russia's claims about factors to elements in ukraine. so what does this ruling mean for? they ask for tongue and members not being held by pro russian forces. d. w. 's will begin to showcase in cave exploit. round about 2500 fighters surrendered to the russians. they were registered by the red cross s so called prisoners of war . and that would mean under the geneva convention that they are not that it's not allowed to charge them only for fighting in that war. but this changes if they are recognized terrorist organizations, then they could face big chargers and even in the dunbar, republic officials have said they could even get the death sentence. so this is, this is a really hard situation also for the relative. but i just spoke to her to
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a lawyer here in ukraine. it, he said it might be only like political game by russia to like raise their so to say bell, you off the prisoners in this, in a possible a prisoner swap or in, in negotiations for a peace agreement. so their relatives are that they don't know what to think here if, if it's just like if they are just pawns or if it's a really threat. but many here are very worried because many have are relatives or friends in the army. and when they might get prisoners of war, they fearing this pattern of rush and we have been seeing over the past months to criminalize the prisoners of war. ah, europe in union countries are attempting to reduce their use of russian gas as moscow cut supplies and fears grow of our winter gas shortage. germany has
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restarted an old coal fired power station to shore up its gas reserves. and in the netherlands as debate about whether dis that weather a decision to shut down a major gas field should be reversed. the groaning and gas field is the biggest of its kind in europe. the w report of sonia found the car travel to groaning and where decades of extraction have caused earthquakes. she found locals her unhappy about suggestions that the gas should keep flowing. young whittaker's damaged house is being strengthened to withstand future earthquakes. it's a complex operation on dish and hail. this part of the building is already repaired it. another section had to be completely torn down and it's been re been the house was damaged in the aftermath of a strong earthly huffman. twill yard and groningen with gas extraction has triggered tremors for decades. on get a dash record,
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it was horrible. the everything was moving in on there was a huge, nice as well. oh, oh and, and there was one loud bang. i mile went on to your yard as you sank into a huge loss. it was a beautiful house. we were happy in it. we run down mitchell green. the earthquakes of lead to more than a $160000.00 damages claims to date, which prompted the dutch government to scale by gas production. and take a decision to close down the gas field by next year. but the russian invasion of ukraine and slashing of gas flows to europe has torn those plans into question. dubuque, government is now considering, tapping the fields, still ample reserves in case of a gas emergency in winter. mckeyan mulder is an energy expert at the university of crone. again, he believes it's possible to temporally res output at the groaning and field to meet a part of europe's gas meets and get the residents on board as well. with the owner
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usa small part of got this revenues to compensate. all habitants are written of groningen at the expense a bit higher risk for earthquakes because this still exists. so this will be the best, the solution for, for everyone has a more casual markets, more revenues hoodie, a quicker appropriate compensation for all the inhabitants and more cash applied to the european gas markets. well, we've got fraction wall, but there's also correction ceiling. but residents and groaning and don't trust those promises. marianna tory has been petitioning authorities for 6 years to recognize and be for the damage she says was caused by gas extraction and pull down the house if needed. she still waiting for a decision. the damage, meanwhile, is growing them. this is the type of damage that, that we see a lot. and it's the one that it's the sort of damage that really scares because people are afraid with an next earthquake. that the roof will come down and well,
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the beams may land on you. the dutch state and the gas heat operator have paid out over a 1000000000 euros so far to affected residents for rebuilding and strengthening homes. none of the residents are looking forward to continuing damage to their homes, but the dutch government may be out of other options if the gas crisis takes the tone for the worse in the winter. ah, my fellow americans, on saturday at my direction, united states successor concluded an air strike in kabul, afghanistan, and kill the emir. arcada him on those hours. now, justice has been delivered and this terrorist leader is no more that no matter how long it takes no matter where you. hi. if you are a threat to our people,
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united states will find you and take you out here as president joe biden, that are seeing the s drive that killed al qaeda leda. i'm and i was, i hate us, had been on his trial for decades from all. let's talk to bobby bowman, who senior director of the foundation for the defense of democracies and assistant professor of the u. s. a military academy at west point. welcome back to the w. y. did the usaa want to kill them or hear me rather than arrest him and bring him to justice? you know, there are good reasons for why we would want to capture him. it's interesting to note that the f, b, i, that federal bureau of investigation put out a 25000000 dollar reward for information leading to his arrest, apprehension and conviction. and if we had done that, we would have been able to interrogate him. if we'd be able to send people in to capture him, we were able to collect files and information that he had with them much as we did in 2000. and one more been lot and so that would have been preferable. but of
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course you would have to put americans at rest to do that. and my strong assess guess is that the by mistake was unwilling to take that risk. if you think about the risk associated with sending americans in the cobble, they appears to have decided that they would rather just conduct this drone strike and take him out the battle field rather than putting additional american lives at risk. and we look at it, you could ask you so well, is that legal can, can america just go right? well, clearly can't just go around the world killing people, but we have rules with on we big on the rule of law. we are and i would argue, respectfully, this is clearly consistent with the rule of law. certainly consistent under us law, where in the 2001 authorization for use of military force after the united states was attacked and, and so many of our citizens were murdered. let's remember that i'm an elder. our harry was involved in the 1998 bombing of the u. s. embassy in kenya and tanzania.
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he was involved in the bombing of the u. s. s. cole, we're 17 of our sailors were murdered. and he was the number to about kite on september 11th, 2001, when so many of our citizens were killed. he was the number one after open lod were killed. and so, you know, when you look at who he is, who he was, thankfully, what he has done, and the organization here was leaving any reasonable reading of international law. and doctrines of self defense tells me this is eminently defensible. right? and so that would be, that would be america's defense. if he came to that, that in killing him abroad, we were defending ourselves at home. yes. right. that's the big idea here. i think certainly from my perspective is that when people are trying to kill you, you have a right to defend yourselves. this goes to whether you're defending your home or whether you're defending your country. and we're going to be some paper here at home, whether it's in germany, the united kingdom or the united states. if we put pressure on terrorist over there
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who are plotting as we speak to do us harm. and now of course we have that the us and taliban. h accusing the other, violating this 2020 doha agreement that facilitated the withdrawal of international forces. and i suppose they can both be right. calmer know right. and you know, just you know, i don't think that agreement that the trump administration worked out with the taliban was never worth, frankly, the paper it was written on, you know, we document in part 2 insisted that the taliban break with al qaeda not provide them safe haven, i mean that frankly at the time was laughable and laughable. now. of course the taliban provided safe haven alcorda in the months and weeks and days leading up to $911.00. they never broke without kaiser during the 20 year war. they remain natasha. they have a kind to help the taliban take parts of afghanistan. and it's interesting that as soon as america left and our and our partners left zondaway here, he did what he moved right into cobble right underneath the nose, the taliban. so,
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you know, i think the truck ministration wanted to withdraw from afghanistan, and they used the that agreement to, to try to vide legitimacy to something that they're going to do. anyway. the tell pan knew it and they told united states in the world, but we wanted to hear. right. and then briefly, so now we have ask out sounds taliban rule as, as international parish, the country's economies meltdown. and facing a humanitarian crisis. they appear to have nothing to lose. so why wouldn't they shelter people they regard as their quotes, brothers in struggle? it's a great question. why would they stop? that's my point. they sheltered them before 911. they sheltered them for 20 years, and they're sheltering them. now, so our presumption should be that they will continue to do so and, and your viewers, i hope, are asking themselves. who else have come as come to ask in a stand since the united states and our allies? not just i'm and i was all we're hearing and are they training? are they fundraising? are they planning other attacks?
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i fear evidence in history suggest the answers. yes, thank you so much for joining us. probably bowman from the foundation for the defense of democracies. the day's almost done by the compensation continues online, you'll find us on twitter. i the ad state w use. i can call me at go have a good day with with
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