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ah, the speaker has landed after weeks of speculation and not quite denials. us how speak and nancy pelosi has landed in taiwan. and china is livid. beijing stepping up military drills around the island. it claims as its territory and russia has seized this opportunity to back china's claim to neighboring territory as a purely internal matter. so what happens next? i'm fo gail in berlin and this is the day ah woman, we keeping a close eye on penalties, trip. and she did lawyer because this is another property of action by the u. s.
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administration to fit additional pressure on beijing. people. what i can tell you is that the u. s. will bear the responsibility and pay the price for undermining china. sovereignty and security interest also coming up. russia's energy squeeze on europe. one of the use biggest gas feels was slated for closure because it's causing earthquakes. now there's pressure to keep it producing, which is worried many residents plus people are afraid with an next earthquake that the roof will come down and well, the beams may land on you. welcome to the day we begin aware the visit that's taking place despite the threat of a major diplomatic incident. the speaker of the us house of representatives, nancy pelosi has landed in taiwan, in her words,
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to honor america's unwavering commitment to supporting taiwan so vibrant democracy that support is against the growing might of china. which regards the island is chinese territory, beijing seas. if it is a major provocation and has announced military exercises, that will practically surround the self ruling island in the coming days. i want says the 1st chinese war planes entered its air defense zone soon after pelosi landed. well, nancy pelosi didn't make a statement when she touch down, but she did publish a series of tweets after her arrival in taipei. they included this american solidarity with the 23000000 people of taiwan is more important today than ever. as the world faces a choice between autocracy and democracy. let's take a closer look at this with my 1st guess tonight that's that theresa fallon, who's director of the center from russia, europe, asia studies. she joins us from brussels. welcome to the w. nancy pelosi says she's
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in taiwan to show america's solidarity with its people. if you are having an honest heart to heart with joe biden, how do you think he would answer that question? the question, what's nancy really doing? well there are some mixed messages sent out before nancy pelosi went, but as speaker, she has she's part of the 3 organs of government and she does have the problem to travel there. they did try to convince her not to go there. it's a great deal of lobbying for her not to go, but i would say that today there has been such a groundswell of support and she has managed it quite well. actually, there was also an op ed that was very persuasive that was published today in the washington post. now tomorrow we'll see what, how the meetings go. but she's also going to be meeting with democracy protesters from hong kong. so this is kind of what changed the whole narrative for tie one. the one is narrative really went to pear shaped after what happened in hong kong.
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so i think the thing has created a lot of these, the situation current landscape. and i think that her symbolic this, it has even just wanting to put it in for walking into tell that the groundswell with taiwanese people was overwhelming. and also president biden. do you remember we had his democracy's summit? he's supposed to be a proponent of democracy and by going there showing a huge support for democracy and it's such a vibrant democracy, there will be a meeting of 2 women leaders to discuss democracy. so i think it's a very powerful message to whole region. and then of course, if the china is the angry reaction to a certain extent, we can brush off the rhetoric because that's what we call to expect from china. but what do you think beijing means when they talk about responding with targeted military actions? i think the message that beijing is sending will actually boomerang and she, jim pink, he was quiet, he wants peace in the relative to the party congress and he's not getting that at
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all. so now they have surrounded taiwan with extra military exercises, like fire military exercises and many and let's say this is a kind of a preparation for a blockade for possibly a future invasion of taiwan. so they're sending a very strict message to the taiwanese and also to other countries in the region. and by having live, fight your exercises in all areas around taiwan is also very worrying. so yes, they might be popular label china's version of twitter. but that's policy actually broke way, but today they couldn't keep up with all the post on label. and so it seemed overwhelmingly that the public doesn't want to warn china that this type of narrative is not very effective. and so i think that maybe she didn't ping has a really bad case of bad coping brain. he hasn't left the country in 3 years. and i think that's all this pressure about the party congress when he wants to change the norms and stay in power longer than his 2 terms has perhaps affected his judgment.
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right. and then of course, there's russia. let's hear from the russian foreign ministry a spokeswoman maria zachary over and then come back to we should them, we regard the resolution of the taiwan straits situation as a purely internal chinese matter is what it was that what we say there is only one china, the p r. c. government is the so legitimate government of all china and taiwan is an integral part of china only changed for theresa fallon. so far the rest is convince china not to on russia. even of the west pause weapons into ukraine. is nancy pelosi strip likely to change beijing's mind? well, we should remember the february 4th, no limit agreement that was signed between. she's in pain and president putin in the run up to the olympics. this was a symbol of how they are backing each other, how they are cooperating. and it's no surprise that russia has back to china's
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position, even though some analysts are trying to say that china doesn't really want to support russia. that's not true at all. and i think it's in china's own interest. they're fearful of secondary sanctions. if china does support russia with weapons that will trigger u. s. secondary sanctions. so i think that china is helping russia by buying oil. and i think that they're getting a discount on that as well. so there is mutual support for russia and china. we really have to see the world as it is not as we would like to be. some people have said that, you know, of course, this is no one likes it's you 2 front war maybe china and russia could cooperate by causing more problems in the balkans since china has so many weapons in serbia including their drone program. so i think that there is room for mr. between russia and china, coordinating in other regions, but i think that it serves china's purpose is to have a we can rasa over the longer term. so right, they can just say we can't sell you anything because of us. sanctions are publicly
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of course a taiwan has welcome to visit, but china is already responded by batting various taiwanese import to taipei is likely to have to pick up the bill for this party. well, food imports make up a very, very small percentage of exports from taiwan to china. so it started out that $100.00 products. no, it was being brought to up to 2000. and this is more symbolic in my mind. and other things in taiwan will gain huge risks. everyone is talking about, i want these days and for saying what, and this gives them more credibility on the international stage. since beijing has been trying so hard to limit their ability to take action, they don't want other people to visit with them. and i think nancy pelosi is actions have been consistent over 30 years. we remember that night, teen 91. she protestant gentleman square and, and for all the banners and support of people who died for democracy. so she's been consistent for over 30 years on her policy in regard to the people's republic of
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china. so i think that i was happy to see her home and support them and actually has helped pave the way for other people to visit type one because i think beijing has actively lobby and trying to prevent others from coming to visit. so i think this is a very important symbol, and i think nancy pelosi against all odds and all the naysayers who didn't want her to go. and it's really showing you know that she supports democracy and has so far . so good luck tomorrow goes to i will be a key day. theresa fallon: very clear and very interesting. thank you so much for joining dw theresa fallon from the center of russia europe asia studies. thank you. thank you. we're trying to launch unofficial protests with the german embassy in beijing, us after foreign minister out of in a bad book, criticized chinese aggression towards taiwan. on monday, after a speech to the un,
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you said germany stands united with the u. s. we share american concerns. we are painfully learned over the past month with february 24th. that aggressive authority can turn into a dangerous action. china's comments was regard to tiven, raise serious questions. it cannot be in our interest if china is creating on top of this excessive economic dependency in its region. will they w i correspond mckayla. kaufman was asked on the 11th burbock speech in new york and she described what the foreign minister had to say regarding nancy. pelosi, his visit to taiwan, and how those comments came to upset china. he said that it simply wasn't acceptable in relation to russia that a big estate could attack the smaller neva and that international law also applies
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to china. now that didn't go down. well, a protest was delivered to the german ambassador in beijing and, and clearly this to so chinese reflex when that is criticism. although we have learned out of the background here that there is no interest to really make a clear statement of reaction on that visit. it appears just like the united states . they want to see this visits speak for itself and not add fuel to the fire because quite clearly what we are seeing from the chinese side. there is quite a bit of anger over this visit. the foreign minister also called for strengthening of the comes atlantic alliance. what does she mean by them? so what? yes, well, she held a speech on seizing the trans atlantic moment. that is a rather nice way of saying of the rediscovery of transatlantic bonds, the reliance on the united states in the light of the ukraine war and m. c. that
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says that it's hina is of course a common concern. and a more alignment with the u. s. policy on china is what she's hinting at, and that could mean taking a toughest dance, but that could also mean after the failure to get that transatlantic trade agreement together. that there could be individual steps that could amount to something like a closer trade for a while. and the foreign minister also said the germany had abandoned its long how the belief in the concept of change through trade. what does she mean by that? this is very interesting because this is the question that i'm going to michael, the former german sansa avoided during the final months of being in office when she was asked with the example of china. whether that was proof that it, that this concept had failed. she simply didn't want to answer that very question. and here on, elena babcock is stating that quite clearly. and what she means is having less
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trade reliance as she cited ukraine. and with germany's europe's heavy reliance on ross and gas as a negative example. and in relation to the signer, that's my mean. she is her argument to have less dependence in certain aspects of production as supply lines, not to have to discover that there can't be any certain medicine so it can can no longer be delivered at home because of a high reliance on sign it. so reducing that, i think there she is very much in line with what america, both under trump and under biden, has been calling for for a long time. clearly these europeans, german rethinking that trade relations to china. i thank you for that. of the correspondent we had a customer in new york. ah, a russia supreme court has rule that ukraine's as of regiment is
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a terrorist organization. a decision that may allow harsh sentences against fighters who are now russians, prisoners of war. the ruling comes just days after dozens of ukrainian peer w's from me as off battalion were killed by the shelling of a prison in separatist control. you cried. keith, call the attack on me. all any cup, prisoners, deliberate, russian war, crime, russia, blame you, crime for the shelling. money of the ukrainian prisoners had surrendered after the months long siege of the city of manual. oh, they, as a regiment is or ukrainian military unit with a foreign rife and nationalist background. it was the focus of russia's claims about factors to elements m u cry. so what does this ruling mean for? they asked for town and members not being held by pro russian forces. d. w 's will begin to showcase in cave explained round about 2500 fighters surrendered to the russians. they were registered by the red cross s so called prisoners of war
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. and that would mean under the geneva convention that they are not that it's not allowed to charge them only for fighting in that war. but these changes, if they are recognized terrorist organizations, then they could face big chargers and even in the dunbar, republic officials have said they could even get the death sentence. so this is, this is a really hard situation also for the relative bird. i just spoke to her to a lawyer here in ukraine. it, he said it might be only like political game by russia to like raise their so to say bell, you off the prisoners in this, in a possible prisoner swap or in, in negotiations for a peace agreement. so their relatives are, they don't know what to think here if it's just like if they are just pawns or if
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it's a really threat. but many here are very worried because many have relatives or friends in the army. and when they might get prisoners of war, they fearing this pattern of russian we have been seeing over the past months to criminalize the prisoners of war. ah, are you appear in union? countries are attempting to reduce the use of russian gas as moscow cut supplies and fears grow of our winter gas shortage. germany has restarted an old coal fired power station to sure if it's gas reserves. and in the netherlands, there's debate about whether dis that whether a decision to shut down a major gas field should be reversed. the groaning and gas field is the biggest of its kind in europe. the w report of sonia found the car travel to groaning where decades of extraction of course earthquakes. she found locals her unhappy about suggestions that the gas should keep flowing. young whittaker's damaged house is
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being strengthened to withstand future earthquakes. it's a complex operation on dish and hail. this part of the building is already repaired it. another section had to be completely torn down and has been rebuilt. the house was damaged in the aftermath of a strong, earthly huffman 12 urine groaning in where gas extraction has triggered tremors. for decades under the dash rattling it was horrible, everything was moving in, or there was a huge, nice as well. all of the height. and there was one loud bang. i mile went on to your yard. she sank into a huge loss. it was a beautiful house. we were happy in it. we run down mitchell green. the earthquakes of lead to more than a $160000.00 damages claims to date, which prompted the dutch government to scale by gas production. and take a decision to close down the gas field by next year. but the russian invasion of
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ukraine and slashing of gas close to europe has torn those plans into question. the dutch government is now considering tapping the fields, still ample reserves in case of a gas emergency in winter. mckeyan mulder is an energy expert at the university of crone. again, he believes it's possible to temporally res output at the groaning and field to meet a part of europe's gas meets. and get the residence on board as well. with only use a small part of got this revenues to compensate. all habitants are written of groningen at the expense a bit higher risk or else correct because this still exists. so this will be the best, the solution for, for every one having more cash on the market. more revenues really? yeah, quicker appropriate compensation for all the inhabitants and more cash applied to the european gas markets. well, we've got correction wall, but there's also correction ceiling. but residents and groaning and don't trust
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those promises. marianna tori has been petitioning authorities for 6 years to recognize and be for the damage she says was caused by gas extraction and pull down the house if needed. she still waiting for a decision. the damage, meanwhile, is growing them. this is the type of damage that, that we see a lot. and it's the one that it's the sort of them that really scares because people are afraid with an next earthquake that the roof will come down. and while the beams may land on you, the dot state, and mcgasey, the operator had paid out over a 1000000000 euro so far to affected residence for rebuilding and strengthening homes. none of the residents are looking forward to continuing damage to their homes. but the dutch government may be out of other options if the gas prices take the tone for the worse in the winter. my fellow
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americans, on saturday, at my direction, united states successor, concluded an air strike in kabul, afghanistan, and kill the mirror, our cato. m on our re now justice has been delivered in this terrace. it is no more that no matter how long it takes, no matter where you. hi. if you are a threat to our people, united states will find you and take you out. here as president joe biden, that are seeing the ass drive that killed al qaeda leda. i'm and i hate us, had been on his trial for decades. let's talk to bobby bowman, senior director of the foundation for the defense of democracies and assistant professor of the u. s a military academy at west point. welcome back to the w. why did the usaa want to kill them or hear me rather than arrest him and bring him to
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justice? you know, there are good reasons for why we would want to capture him. it's interesting to note that the f, b, i, the federal bureau of investigation put out a 25000000 dollar reward for information leading to his arrest, apprehension and conviction. and if we had done that, we would have been able to interrogate him. if we'd be able to send people in to capture, i'm unable to collect files and information that he had with them much as we did in 2001 more been lot. and so that would have been preferable. but of course, you would have to put americans at rest to do that. and my strong assess, guess is that by mistake was unwilling to take that risk. if you think about the risk associated with sending americans in the cobble, they appears to have decided that they would rather just conduct this drone strike and take him off the battle field rather than putting additional american lives at risk. and we look at it, you're going to ask you so well, is that legal can, can america just go right? well, clearly you can just go around the world killing people,
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but we have rules with on we big on the rule of law. we are and i would argue, respectfully, this is clearly consistent with the rule of law. certainly consistent under us law in the 2001 authorization for use of military force after the united states was attacked and and so many of our citizens were murdered. let's remember that i'm an l out here, e was involved in the 1998 bombing of the us embassies in kenya and tanzania. he was involved in the bombing of the u. s. s. cole, we're 17 of our sailors were murdered, and he was the number to about kite on september 11th, 2001, when so many of our citizens were killed was the number one i'll kinda after law was killed. and so, you know, when you look at who he is, who he was, thankfully, what he has done and the organization here was leaving any reasonable reading of international law. and doctrines of self defense tells me this is eminently defensible. right? and so that would be, that would be america's defense. if he came to that,
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that in killing him abroad, we were defending ourselves at home. yes. right. that's the big idea here. i think certainly from my perspective is that when people are trying to kill you, you have a right to defend yourselves. this goes to whether you're defending your home or whether you're defending your country. and we're going to be some paper here at home, whether it's in germany, the united kingdom or the united states. if we put pressure on terrorist over there who are plotting as we speak to do us harm. and now of course we have that they, us and taliban. h accusing the other, violating this 2020 doha agreement that facilitated the withdrawal of international forces. and i suppose they can both be right. calmer know, right. and you know, just you know, i don't think that agreement that the trump administration worked out with the taliban was ever worth, frankly, the paper was written on, you know, we document in part 2 insisted that the taliban break with al qaeda not provide
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them safe haven i mean that frankly at the time was laughable and laughable. now. of course the taliban provided safe haven, alcorda in months and weeks and days lane up to $911.00. they never broke with al qaeda during the 20 year war. they remain, natasha. they have all kinds of help the taliban take parts of afghanistan. and it's interesting that as soon as america left and our and our partners left zoe, here he did what he moved right into cobble right underneath the nose, the taliban. so, you know, i think the truck ministration wanted to withdraw from afghanistan, and they used the that agreement to try to vide legitimacy to something that they're going to do anyway, that help and knew it. and they told united states in the world, but we wanted to hear. right. and then briefly, so now we have, i've got a sounds taliban rule as, as international parish, the country's economy, the meltdown. and the facing a humanitarian crisis. they appear to have nothing to lose. so why wouldn't they
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shelter people they regard as their quote brothers in struggle? it's a great question. why would they stop? that's my point. they shelter than before, 911. they sheltered them for 20 years and they're sheltering them. now, so our presumption should be that they will continue to do so and, and your viewers, i hope, are asking themselves. who else have come, come to afghan, a stand since the united states and our allies? not just i'm and i was all we're hearing and are they training or they fundraising? are they planning other attacks? i fear evidence and history suggest the answers. yes, thank you so much for joining us. probably bowman from the foundation for the defense of democracies on the day's almost done by the conversation continues online, you'll find us on twitter. i the ad state w news call me at go have a good day. ah
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