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[000:00:00;00] ah, a court in russia has sentence us basketball star, brittany grimes. it's a 9 years in a penal colony for drugs, possession, and smuggling russian officials are vague cartridges containing cannabis, oil. it does get just an app or any of moscow. so it does the sentence reflect russia strict attitude to drugs? or was it fact that high to increase her value when the time comes to do a deal with the united states? i'm so gale in berlin and this is the day ah, later on, this is a miscarriage of justice. i had no intent to bring in russian vol. we'll fall in to
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the u. s. department of state has determined that the spiner wrongfully detained. nothing in today's decision changes that termination. i know everybody, he's talking about political bond politics. but i hope that is far from the court. you know, when we it's so brittany, i think it was tuesday and with the see on thursday and she said see on don't think so. looks like she was worried also coming up the other prisoners. the rush is holding thousands of ukrainian prisoners of war or in russian custody. the w news has been speaking to some of their parents who've been telling us that fence. my biggest concern is that they might not recognize him as a prisoner of war. like to have with others and that they would fabricate a criminal case against him. so using all those lies and twisted evidence. ah,
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welcome to the day rush courses convicted us basketball, player, brittany greiner, of drugs, possession and smuggling. she was sentenced and 9 years in prison and a fine of a 1000000 roubles. as $116000.00. a sport star was arrested for carrying a vape pen and cartridges in her luggage, which contained cannabis, oil. rational authorities, said the charges brought against her. we're fully proven the u. s. s. she has been wrongfully detained. this is a miscarriage of justice. the u. s. department of state has determined that miss griner was wrongfully detained. nothing in today's decision changes that determination. together with cancer officers from the u. s embassy here in moscow. i attended every session of miss brainers trial. we will continue to be closely engaged in this case. we will remain in frequent contact, witness greiner and with her legal team. secretary state lincoln, president biden's of the president vine, his national security team,
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and the entire american government remain committed to bringing miss griner home safely to her family, friends and loved ones. and i as charge to fair of the u. s embassy in moscow will also do my best to bring her home safely. i will continue to do everything to care for the safety and well being of miss criner and of all us citizens detained in the russian federation. we have no higher priority. thank you. dw is russia analyst, konstantin again, gave me his take on brittany griner sentence, all sentences of russia hard, especially those concerning narcotics, and especially in the case of an american, any american detained, immediately turns into a very valuable hostage. and i think that because of the current situation, the war, ah, there are look, many americans coming to russia. so brittany greiner began become, becomes, and even more valuable hostage book before mister,
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put in the release as soon as i think he will, in exchange for a valuable russian prison of america. they have to give her a big, big, big, massive sentence. because as you know in russia, courts are just and they have to show that they are completely merciless. okay, i know you mentioned that base talks between the u. s. secretary of state anthony, blinking on his russian counterpart, sergey laugh, rob they, they've happened recently about a prisoner swap, didn't amounts. it didn't come to anything. the americans have offered to victor. but tell us who he is and whether that deal might still be on the table. well, i think the deal is on the table, and i think that mr. putin wants basically, ah, to get the maximum off of for this exchange. boot is a russian pilot who's been accused and sentenced in the us for basically illegal arms raid a some journalist,
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some of colleagues call him merchant of death and he's been in u. s. jail for quite a long time and has become a cause celebre. a famous case in russia portrayed in the russian state media as an innocent victim of american imperialism of a kind of the u. s. trying to punish russia. and i think that breathing griner is going eventually to be exchanged because frankly speaking, such circumstances keeping a basketball star in russian jail is not something that a put him probably would want. and i suppose that what he does want is to show that he had a victory. he brought back a russian citizen. he brought back victor boot. oh, right. so we expect that in the next a weeks or months, some sort of deal will be done publicly or will this all happen very quietly behind so close doors? well, i don't know. i don't think that such negotiations are conducted in public. just remember, i mean the, the, the negotiations in,
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during the cold war about kind of spice swaps they, when they were conducted in public. i think that the result will be fairly public and everyone, both washington and russia will. if this happens, if this happens, we'll claim that they won ah bots. i think negotiations themselves are always behind closed doors. thank you for i think russia, i, mr. constantine, i got ross is also holding thousands of ukrainian prisoners of war. the crimes foreign minister is accused russia of treating them illegally and using them for political purposes, which is for britain under the geneva conventions. russia and proxy authorities in east and ukraine of charged dozens of soldiers with crimes. and 3 foreign born ukrainian soldiers have been sentenced to death on allegedly fabricated charges. he w a berkeley to show care that the parents of one man being held by the russians. they fear he could suffer a similar fate. each morning yes,
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gania would carriage take some time for herself in quite to look at her son. she hasn't heard from maxine since russian forces captured him 2 months ago. she scared there might be torturing him, or that he might be dead. it was cylindrical i sit in the kitchen and just cry while my husband is still sleeping. when he gets up, i wash my face in person nights and try to be strong for the day and not to cry any more. only in the early mornings i allow myself to cry. what's it different as will oh yeah, the couple invited us to their home because they want the world to know about their son. his parents say, maxine volunteered to join the army, even though he is a pacifist, he had worked as a journalist and activist campaigning for refugees and human rights. but when russia invaded, he decided to take more direct action to wishing school. so she gave to the urban need to he told me,
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i'm joining the army because i have to defend the values i've been fighting for my whole life. yes, this is bruce. they only realized he had been captured when a video of maxine being interrogated was shown on russian state media with a butcher. it was horrible. the 1st thing i felt was just horror. i saw my early childhood listening through them. i thought that can't be true crow kremlin telegram tenants quickly caught maxime, a nazi a nationalist. they even said he was a british spy, because he had worked as a local producer for the bbc in 2003. this is in the blue cross blue storm. my biggest concern is that they might not recognize him as a prisoner of war like to have with others and that they would fabricate a criminal case against him. so using all those lies and twisted evidence, latisha with some of a good,
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a storage it was use when you free our domestic intelligence office called home that russia is holding more than 7000 ukrainian. so just prison. but they won't talk about any of it on camera, because negotiations for prisoners swaps secret. a lawyer representing the families of more than 50 captured soldiers has agreed to talk with us. let us laugh, we could not see. it works closely with domestic intelligence to try to get prisoners back. he expects that russia will fire more and more criminal cases against ukrainian prisoners of war. i think this is, this is done mostly for the political purposes. when you create search and you know importance of the person, great nazis, you know, you can use it to in their political, you know, trait. but yes, gania and alexander, i don't want things to get that far. they fire the know didn't appear to the
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european court of human rights. they say they will fight with everything they have until maxine, it's really ah, meanwhile, ukrainian president vladimir savanski is condemned comments by former german chancellor. gerhard schroeder suggesting that russia wants to negotiate a solution to its war of aggression. mister shows is refusing to cut ties with the russian leader and is facing an investigation by his own party, the social democrats. it was a self styled diplomatic mission to the kremlin. vladimir putin spokesman confirmed that former german chancellor, gerhard schroeder, match a russian president on a moscow visit last week. in an interview with german media showed us at that point in once a negotiated solution to the war in ukraine. and that the recent grain deal could be slowly expanded into a ceasefire. damages ukraine's president followed him as
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a lensky made clear what he thought of the former chancellor's diplomatic efforts. moves early. the 1st of all, it is simply disgusting when former leaders of major states with european values worked for russia, which is at war against these values. he, yeah, cowboys, property sinless bonnie ac russia is using these people as messengers. there them to say that the terrorist state allegedly once negotiations, bearablewood gotch hota, is a long standing friend of putins. soon after leaving office in 2005, he accepted a job with russian energy company gas from lay to became chairman of the supervisory board of another russian energy giant. ross left florida has refused to distance himself from the russian leader in march. shortly after russia invaded ukraine, he travelled to moscow to meet putin, his wife, posting this picture of herself praying for peace with the kremlin in the
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background. schluter has been scorned for his continued ties with russia. some of his privileges, as a former chancellor have been withdrawn and he is facing an investigation by his party. the social democrats over his kremlin lynx was get more from the w correspondent of simon young. welcome, simon. how much trouble is gerhard schroeder in he's in quite a lot of trouble. phil, as you heard there, he's long faced criticism for his close links, particularly with president vladimir putin, himself, whom he wants described famously as a flawless democrat. but this criticism also for his work for russian energy companies, which began pretty much as soon as he left office. he's been working for a gas prom rouse nationals over the nord stream operating company. so what he's now
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facing is a total of 17 applications that there have been within the s b, d, the social democrat party to throw him out. or of course, it may come to nothing because there are significant legal obstacles to removing people from political parties. here in germany, but none the less is pretty clear. a lot of people think a gerhard schroeder has gone to fall. so tell us more about what this would be go between had to say about her present prudence, decipher it, negotiated settlement to his war and ukraine. yes. right. he was speaking in an interview and he said that russia wants to negotiate a settlement. and he said that the recent grain deal are between russia and ukraine and the, and the international community to get the grain out could be sort of the beginnings of such
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a year and negotiation. and he also went on so suggest that potential compromises from the russian side, or rather from the ukrainian site, should include accepting sort of russian control or partial control over the don bass eastern region of ukraine. and also he suggested some sort of neutrality in the future. for you consider making these kind of policy points very much in line with the sort of thing that the kremlin would probably like to see. right, that now europe got accused russia weapon, i think gas supplies by restricting deliveries through that this nordstrom, one pipeline. or did mr. shirt have to say about yeah, a he again, he sort of cast down on the official german line. he said he could see no reason why this turbine that a gas problem currently says is the problem is he hasn't got
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a turbine that it needs to operate the nordstrom one pipeline. and he said dish or the said, well, there's no reason why that turbine is currently lying in, in, in siemens factory in germany. rather than in russia as are effectively suggesting that somehow it siemens, all the german government a somehow at fulton. he also said that when he was recently in moscow, i talking with rational authorities. he asked, he said sort of all those nicely about where there was any political effort to sort of a road stop or, or hinder gas flows to europe. and he was told quite clearly know, so again, he's passing on this sort of rushing view of things or without criticism, it would seem you see it, it does sound like he doesn't think he's in that much trouble. as a multi millionaire, he has to have friends in the kremlin. what does he care, whether he's his party is investigating, he's made well, i think, yeah. you know, he's facing
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a lot of pressure in the media here in germany as well. people saying he's pollutants pop it and so i think there are signs that he does react to pressure. he has, after all relinquished his role at roles next. and he also not accepted a proposed job on the board of, of gas prom. but as you say, his political career is over, so patsy's political roots are less important to him now than some of his business or other connections political correspondence. i'm a young thank you. one of the biggest gatherings of conservative activists in the united states is underway in dallas, texas, speakers that this year's conservative political action conference, or c pac include former president, donald trump and texas governor greg abbott. but it's also rolled out the red carpet for a foreign guest, and gary and prime minister victor all been as enacted hard line policies against
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immigration and l. g. b t. u writes at home and has consolidated power through his conscious judiciary and media. interestingly, he's not scheduled to speak to you as president joe biden while he's in the country . it's robin speech at c packhorse called how we fight is a taste. you should know that i am an old fashioned fredo fighter i am also the longest serving prime minister in europe, but only and by migration, political leader on our continent, a father of 5 and grandfather at the 5 grandchildren, the leader of the country. that is under the siege of progressive liberals day by day. but i think you managed to confuse a lot of people by you whiting me. for example,
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the left is to media. i can already see tomorrow's headlines. far right european races, an anti semi strong man. the troy on horse, off which him or speech at closer. but if conference or the industrial field, you will work for asian rogue or c n g o r probably confused as well. they are already busy writing their so called the search papers to inform americans how i destroyed hungary and democracy according to their research. i managed to re in hungary democracy in 2011. and then they said, i had oriented again in 2012 and then in 2013, and 14,
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and 15 and so on each and every year. but how did i managed to destroy something that was already growing? well, let's see if we can resolve our apparent confusion with kim lane shefly. she's professor of international affairs at princeton university, a welcome to the w professor. we've just heard this old fashioned freedom fighter. he does love to talk to intellectuals in the media. he calls liberals disney. yeah, absolutely does. and you heard him do that today? you know, white or vans very good at is as you heard in that clip, anticipating what all of the criticism is and then immediately dismiss it as the fantasies of liberals who were all arrayed against him. and so his title, how we fight is exactly designed to show you, that's how he fights and see how is that the so isolated here in europe, amongst european governments, but so fated by the u. s. right. well, the u. s. right,
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is also not the favorite of most european governments as well. so this is exactly why oregon was coming to the u. s. in fact, it's actually quite remarkable, right, that an allied leader of the united states comes to the united states to criticize the united states and its european allies, speaking to an opposition party. and then saying, actually at the end of his speech, there was a quote, we must take back the institutions in washington and brussels. we must coordinate the movement of our troops because we face the same challenge. so this is unusual, right? for a head of state to come to the united states and attack the current government and attack of course, european governments as well. so quite clearly an unorthodox a figure, but very successful in his own. any so right. use any parallels between victor alba and said donald trump. well, yes and no. so the reason why victoria been is so successful is that after he won
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in 2010 with a majority that allowed him to change the constitution at well, he rewrote all the election rules so that he couldn't lose subsequent elections. so part of the what looks like or a bon success is a fiction of the system he is created in which he can't lose. now donald trump just wishes he were that successful, donald trump was not as disciplined in his 1st term to change all the election laws . but now what you see is the republican party actually going about changing all the election rules. so that the next time there's a presidential election, the republicans can't lose and that's why i'm afraid they might have invited victor or been because victor or ben can show them exactly how that kind of thing works. because it's not just, it's not just that it is not just that the verb changing the, the rules he, he seems to st. ride loads of different horses in loads of different directions at the same time. how does he get away with denouncing the european union values
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around immigration and gay people, while accepting that grants and subsidies he demonizes jewish liberal benefactor? did george soros with anti semitic good dog whistles at home, while forging a close relationship with benjamin netanyahu? i get, i guess they, they want to know how he's such a skillful operator. yeah. well, so one way that he's a skillful operator is that he'll try to do something and then if there's a huge amount of pushback, he'll say, oh no, no, you misunderstood me. so for example, he gave this speech and romania about 10 days ago in which he made really overtly racist statements that sounded even worse and hungarian than in translation. and then when there was this international outcry, he said, oh you've misunderstood me. i was really talking about mixing cultures not races. so he'll walk things back when they, when he goes too far. and then he wonders why people get excited. but on his alliance with netanyahu, for example, i mean netanyahu also was the only other foreign leader that i can recall who came
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to the united states allied himself with the republicans and attacked the sitting democratic government. so in this sense or bonds taken a play, taken a page from from netanyahu's play book. orbit is confusing in a lot of ways because if you just try to look at him as an ideological figure, he combines a lot of positions that should not be so easily combine of bowl. and that's because orb i'm actually doesn't really believe in any particular ideology. so he's an opportunist. he whips up these culture war issues, which he made much of in his speech today at c pack railing against migration, which is one of the issues that got many other members states to be mad at him, defending the family in the sense that you know, traditional gender roles, anti l g p t q things. he also talked about law and order defending the police building up the military, which he's doing that all looks like straight up conservatism. but he combines that with social policy. that looks
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a whole lot more like it comes from the left. so he mixes and matches his positions . and it's very difficult to identify him with one common intellectual strand. i mean, treat what is this notion of, of political opportunism because we have the likes of it's all bad and perhaps donald trump, but even to some extent brittany bar is john in those so in that sort of breed of politicians who will see which way the political wins are going and move until someone tries to stop them as i will. you've misunderstood me at all. they knew i and happy to sort of subvert laws that haven't kept up with where we are today. oh, they always been around well, you know, i think it's a little bit hard to say. i think that what's new is that political parties are too weak to rein in purely opportunistic leaders. and so what you're seeing now are a set of charismatic leaders who build their parties around themselves. and so in
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the past when parties were stronger, and leaders had to actually, in some sense tow their own party lines. parties could call back the kind of leaders that did this sort of thing. now i think the parties are too weak and you're seeing this happening in lots of places. so, so it does sound like we're in for more of this. i think we're in for more of this and actually and with regard to victor urban, i don't see any way he can be taken out through peaceful transfers of power through elections, his rig, the system. so that's impossible. so the question is, what will ever bring victor or a been down and this is where the fact that the you was come very close. now to cutting hungary funds will really present probably or bonds, most serious challenge as fast. i think thank you for outlining that plan. professor came lane jeffrey of a princeton university. thank you. thank you. and the day is nearly done,
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