ah, a court in russia has sent his us basketball star, brittany grind to 9 years and a penal colony for drugs, possession, and smuggling russian officials are vague cartridges containing cannabis, oil. it does get just an app on the moscow. so it does the sentence reflect rushes, strict attitude to drugs, or was it sat that high to increase her value when that time comes to do a deal with the united states? i'm fil gail in berlin, and this is the day ah, later on, this is a miscarriage of justice. i had no intent to bring in russian law will fall and b u . s. department of state has determined that the screener is wrongfully detained. nothing in today's decision changes that determination. i know everybody keeps

talking about political on politics, but i hope that is far from this court. you know, when we it's so brittany, i think it was tuesday and with the see on thursday and she said see on, don't think so. looks like she was right also coming up the other prisoners that rushes holding thousands of ukrainian prisoners of war are in russian custody. the w news has been speaking to some of their parents who have been telling us their fears. my biggest concern is that they might not recognize him as a prisoner of war like to have with others and that they would fabricate a criminal case against him. so using all those lies and twisted evidence, ah, welcome to the day russian court is convicted us basketball, player, brittany greiner, of drugs, possession smuggling, to

a sentence. 9 years in prison and a fine of a 1000000 roubles are small, $16000.00 was brought, saw was arrested for carrying a fate pen and cartridges in her luggage, which contained cannabis, oil rational authorities, said the charges brought against her. we're fully proven the u. s. s. she has been wrongfully tight. this is a miscarriage of justice. the u. s. department of state has determined that miss griner was wrongfully detained. nothing in today's decision changes that determination. together with cancer officers from the u. s embassy here in moscow, i attended every session of miss springer's trial. we will continue to be closely engaged in this case. we will remain at frequent contact with ms. craner and with her legal team. secretary of state, lincoln, president biden's of the president vine, his national security team, and the entire american government remain committed to bringing miss griner home safely to her family,

friends and loved ones. and i as charge to fair of the u. s embassy in moscow will also do my best to bring her home safely. i will continue to do everything to care for the safety and well being of miss griner and of all us citizens detained in the russian federation. we have no higher priority. thank you. dw russia, unless konstantin aga gave me his take on brittany, grind a sentence all sentences of russia hard, especially those concerning narcotics. and especially in the case of an american, any american detain, immediately turns into a very valuable hostage. and i think that because of the current situation, the war, ah, there are look, many americans coming to russia. so brittany greiner became, become, becomes, and even more valuable hostage. but the form is to put in the release as soon as i think he will. in exchange for a valuable russian prison of america,

they have to give her a big, big, big, massive sentence. because as you know, in russia, courts are just and they have to show that they are completely merciless. ok. i know you mentioned that these talks between us secretary of state anthony blank and he's russian counterpart. so gay. laugh rob they, they've happened recently about a prisoner swap. didn't amount didn't come to anything. the americans have offered to victor. but tell us who he is and whether that deal might still be on the table . well, i think the deal is on the table, and i think that mr. putin wants basically, ah, to get the maximum off of for this exchange. boot is a russian pilot who's been accused and sentenced in the us for basically illegal arms raid a some journalist, some old colleagues, call him merchant of death. and he's been in u. s. jail for quite

a long time and has become a cause celebrity, a famous case in russia, portrayed in the russian state media as an innocent victim of american imperialism of a kind of the u. s. trying to punish russia. and i think that britain griner is going eventually to be exchanged because frankly speaking, such circumstances keeping a basketball star in russian jail is not something that a put him probably would want. and i suppose that what he does want is to show that he had a victory. he brought back a russian citizen. he brought back victor boot. oh, right. so we expect that in the next a weeks or months, some sort of deal will be done publicly or will this all happen very quietly behind so closed doors. well, i don't know. i don't think that such negotiations are conducted in public. just remember, i mean the, the, the negotiations in, during the cold war about kind of spice what they, when they were conducted in public. i think that the result will be fairly public

and everyone, both washington and russia will. if this happens, if this happens, we'll claim that the one ah bots, i think negotiations themselves are always behind closed doors. thank you for that . and i think russia analyst, konstantin, i got ross is also holding thousands of ukrainian prisoners of war. the crimes foreign minister is accused russia of treating them illegally and using them for political purposes, which is forbidden. under the geneva conventions, russia and proxy authorities in easton, ukraine of charged dozens of soldiers with crimes. and 3 foreign born ukrainian soldiers have been sentenced to death on allegedly fabricated charges. he w's a berkeley to show care that the parents of one man being held by the russians. they fear he could suffer a similar fate. each morning yet, gania would carriage take some time for herself in quite to look at her son. she hasn't heard from maxine since russian forces captured him 2 months ago. she scared

there might be torturing him or that he might be dead in the cylindrical i sit in the kitchen and just cry. well my husband is still sleeping. when he gets up, i wash my face in person nights and try to be strong for the day and not to cry any more. only in the early mornings i allow myself to cry. what's it different as well as yeah, the couple invited us to their home because they want the world to know about their son. his parents say, maxine volunteered to join the army, even though he is a pacifist, he had worked as a journalist and activist campaigning for refugees and human rights. but when russia invaded, he decided to take more direct action to will she be in school. so she a do the earned me to he told me i'm joining the army because i have to defend the values i've been fighting for my whole life. yes, this is bruce. they only realized he had been captured when

a video of maxine being interrogated was shown on russian state media with to butcher. it was horrible. the 1st thing i felt was just horror. i saw my early childhood listening through them. i thought that can't be true crow kremlin telegram tennis quickly called maxime and nazi a nationalist. they even said he was a british spy because he had worked as a local producer for the b, b. c. in 2003. maybe a shift in the blue cross blue shield. my biggest concern is that they might not recognize him as a prisoner of war like they have with others e and that they would fabricate a criminal case against him. so using all those lies and twisted evidence, latisha with some of a good a student she was use when you free our domestic intelligence sources confirm that russia is holding more than 7000 ukrainian. so just prison. but they won't talk

about any of it on camera, because negotiations for prisoners swaps on top secret. a lawyer representing the families of more than 50 captured soldiers has agreed to talk with us. let us laugh, we cannot see. f works closely with domestic intelligence to try to get prisoners back. he expects that russia will fire more and more criminal cases against ukrainian prisoners of war. i think this is, this is done mostly for their political purposes. when you create search and you know importance of the person, great march, you know, you can use it to in their political, you know, treat that yes. dania and alexander, i don't want things to get that far. they fired no, didn't appear to the european court of human rights. they say they will fight with everything they have until maxine is really

ah, meanwhile, ukrainian president for a lot of years. events curious, condemned comments by former german chancellor. gerhard schroeder, suggesting that russia wants to negotiate a solution to its war of aggression. mister shows is refusing to cut ties with the russian leader and is facing an investigation by his own party, the social democrats. it was a self styled diplomatic mission to the kremlin. vladimir putin spokesman concerns that former german chancellor gerhard schroeder, match a russian president on the moscow visit last week. in an interview with german media showed us at that point in once a negotiated solution to the war in ukraine, and that the recent grain deal could be slowly expanded into a ceasefire. damage ukraine's president followed him as a lensky, made clear what he thought of the former chancellor's diplomatic efforts. moves old

rust, or it is simply disgusting when former leaders of major states, with european values worked for russia, which is at war against these values. he. yet, wu, property sinless money act. russia is using these people as messengers, them to say that the terrorist state allegedly wants negotiations, bearablewood, garage, herders and long standing friend of putins. soon after leaving office in 2005, he accepted a job with russian energy company gas from later became chairman of the supervisory board of another russian energy giant ross left should as refused to distance himself from the russian leader in march. shortly after russia invaded ukraine, he travelled to moscow to meet putin, his wife, posting this picture of herself praying for peace with the kremlin in the background. schluter has been scornfully continued ties with russia.

some of his privileges, as a former chancellor have been withdrawn and he is facing an investigation by his party. the social democrats over his kremlin lynx was get more from the w correspondent of simon young. welcome, simon. how much trouble is gerhard schroeder in he's in quite a lot of trouble. phil, as you heard there, he's long faced criticism for his close links, particularly with president vladimir putin. himself, who me once described famously as a flawless democrat. but this criticism also for his i work full russian energy companies, which began pretty much as soon as he left office. he's been working for a gas prom at ross nationals over the nord stream operating company. so what he's now facing is a total of 17 applications that there have been within the s b, d,

the social democrat party to throw him out of cause. it may come to nothing because there are significant legal obstacles to removing people from political parties. here in germany, but none the less is pretty clear as a lot of people think. a gerhard schroeder has gone too far. so tell us more about what this would be go between had to say about her present prudence. does i for it negotiated settlement to his war and ukraine? yes, right. he was speaking in an interview and he said that russia wants to negotiate a settlement. and he said that the recent grain deal are between russia and ukraine and the, and the international community to get the grain out could be sort of the beginnings of such a year and negotiation. and he also went on so suggest that potential

compromises from the russian side, or rather from the ukrainian side, should include accepting sort of russian control or partial control over the don bass eastern region of ukraine. and also he suggested some sort of neutrality in the future. for you consider making these kind of policy points very much in line with the sort of thing that the kremlin would probably like to see. right, that now europe got accused russia weapon, i think gas supplies by restricting deliveries through that this nordstrom, one pipeline. or did mr shirt have to say about yeah, a he again, he sort of cast down on the official german line. he said he could see no reason why this turbine that a gas problem currently says is the problem is he hasn't got a turbine. that it needs to operate the nordstrom one pipeline and he said dish or the said, well, there's no reason why that turbine is currently, you know,

lying in, in, in siemens factory in germany rather than in russia. and so effectively suggesting that somehow it siemens, all the german government a somehow at fulton. he also said that when he was recently in moscow, i talking with rational authorities. he asked, he said, sort of all those nicely about where there was any political effort to sort of a road stop or, or hinder gas flows to europe. and he was told quite clearly know, so again, he's passing on this sort of russia view of things or without criticism, it would seem you see it, it does sound like he doesn't think he's in that much trouble. as a multi millionaire, he has to have friends in the kremlin. what does he care whether he's his party is investigating if he's made well, i think, yeah, you know, he's facing a lot of pressure in the media here in germany as well. people saying he's proteins pop it and so i think there are signs that he does react to pressure. he has,

after all relinquished his role at roles next. and he also not accepted a proposed job on the board of, of gas prom. but as you say, his political career is over, so patsy's political roots are less important to him now than some of his business or other connections. political correspondent, simon young. thank you. one of the biggest gatherings of conservative activists in the united states is underway in dallas, texas, speakers that this year's conservative political action conference, or c pac include former president, donald trump and texas governor greg abbott. but it's also rolled out the red carpet for a foreign guest from gary and prime minister victor or bad as enacted hard line policies against immigration and l. g. b t. u writes at home and has consolidated power through his conscious judiciary and media. interestingly,

he's not scheduled to speak to you as president joe biden while he's in the country . as robin speech at c packers called how we fight is a taste. you should know that i am an old fashioned freedom fighter. i'm also the longest serving prime minister in europe, the only anti migration political leader on our continent. a father of high and grandfather at 25 grandchildren, the leader of the country. that is under the siege of progressive liberals day by day. but i think you managed to confuse a lot of people by you whiting me. for example, the left is media. i can already see tomorrow's headlines.

far right european races, an anti semi strong man. the troy on horse off which him for speech at closer. but if conference or the in the filthy if you want for asian rogue or c n g o are probably confused as well. they are already busy writing their so called research papers to inform americans how i destroyed hungary and democracy. according to their research, i managed to really and hungary as democracy in 2011. and then they said, i had oriented again in 2012 and then in 2013, and 14, and 15 and so on each and every year. but how did i manage to destroy something that was already growing?

well, let's see if we can resolve our parent's confusion with kim lane shefly. she's professor of international affairs at princeton university, a welcome to the w professor. we've just heard this old fashion freedom fighter. he does love to taunt intellectuals in the media. he calls liberals disney. yeah, absolutely does. and you heard him do that today? you know, what or vance very good at is as you heard in that clip, anticipating what all the criticism is and then immediately dismiss it as the fantasies of liberals who are all arrayed against him. and so his title, how we fight is exactly designed to show you, that's how he fights and see how is that the so isolated here in europe among european governments booked so fated by the u. s. right. well, the u. s. right, is also not the favorite of most european governments as well. so this is exactly why we're buying was coming to the u. s. in fact, it's actually quite remarkable,

right, that an allied leader of the united states comes to the united states to criticize the united states and its european allies, speaking to an opposition party. and then saying, actually at the end of his speech, there was a quote, we must take back the institutions in washington and brussels. we must coordinate the movement of our troops because we face the same challenge. so this is unusual, right? for a head of state to come to the united states and attack the current government and attack of course, european governments as well. so clearly an unorthodox a figure, but very successful in his own any so right. do you see any parallels between victor alba and say donald trump? well yes and no. so the reason why victoria been is so successful is that after he won in 2010 with a majority that allowed him to change the constitution at well, he rewrote all the election rules so that he couldn't lose subsequent elections. so

part of the what looks like or a bon success is a fiction of the system he is created in which he can't lose. now donald trump just wishes he were that successful, donald trump was not as disciplined in his 1st term to change all the election laws . but now what you see is the republican party actually going about changing all the election rules. so that the next time there's a presidential election, the republicans can't lose and that's why i'm afraid they might have invited victor or been because victor or ben can show them exactly how that kind of thing works. because it's not just, it's not just that it is not just that the verb changing the, the rules he, he seems to st. ride loads of different horses and loads of different directions at the same time. how does he get away with denouncing the european union values around immigration and gay people, while accepting that grants and subsidies he demonizes jewish liberal benefactor?

did george soros with anti semitic good dog whistles at home, while forging a close relationship with benjamin netanyahu? i get, i guess they, they want to know how he's such a skillful operator. yeah. well, so one way that he's a skillful operator is that he'll try to do something and then if there's a huge amount of pushback, he'll say, oh no, no, you misunderstood me. so for example, he gave this speech and romania about 10 days ago in which he made really overtly racist statements that sounded even worse and hungarian than in translation. and then when there was this international outcry, he said, oh you've misunderstood me. i was really talking about mixing cultures not races. so he'll walk things back when they, when he goes too far and then he wonders why people get excited. but on his alliance with netanyahu, for example, i mean netanyahu also was the only other foreign leader that i can recall who came to the united states allied himself with the republicans and attack the sitting democratic government. so in this sense or bonds taken to play, taken a page from,

from netanyahu's playbook or about is confusing in a lot of ways. because if you just try to look at him as an ideological figure, he combines a lot of positions that should not be so easily combine a bowl. and that's because, or by actually doesn't really believe in any particular ideology. so he's an opportunist, he whips up these culture war issues, which he made much of in his speech today at c pack, you know, railing against migration, which is one of the issues that got many other members states to be mad at him, defending the family in the sense that, you know, traditional gender roles, anti l g p t q things. he also talked about law and order defending the police building up the military, which he's doing that all looks like straight up conservatism. but he combines that with social policy. that looks a whole lot more like it comes from the left. so he mixes and matches his positions . and it's very difficult to identify him with one common intellectual strand. i

mean tree. what is this notion of political opportunism because we have the likes of it's all been and bob donald trump, but even to some extent, britton's bar is john in those. so in that sort of breed of politicians who will see which way the political winds are going and move until someone tries to stop them as i will. you've misunderstood me at all. they knew i and happy to sort of subvert laws that haven't kept up with where we are today, or they always been around well, you know, i think it's a little bit hard to say. i think that what's new is that political parties are too weak to rein in purely opportunistic leaders. and so what you're seeing now are a set of charismatic leaders who build their parties around themselves. and so in the past when parties were stronger, and leaders had to actually, in some sense, tow their own party lines, parties could call back the kind of leaders that did this sort of thing. now i

think the parties are too weak and you're seeing this happening in lots of places to so it does sound like we're in for more of this. i think we're in for more of this and actually and with regard to victor urban, i don't see any way he can be taken out through peaceful transfers of power through elections. is reg, the system? so that's impossible. so the question is, what will ever bring victor or a been down and this is where the fact that the you was come very close now to cutting hungary funds will really present probably or bonds most serious challenge was fascinating. thank you for outlining. matter planning professor came lane shuttling of a princeton university. thank you. thank you. and that is nearly done, but the conversation continues online. you can find us on twitter. i've actively news, so i feel gail, i'm a good day with

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