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all soon be over. before we go, let's get a reminder of the top story we're following for you at this hour. israel says that its defense systems have shot down a number of rockets fired from the gaza strip into israeli air space. the rocket fire comes after israel launched a series of airstrikes, things garza saying it was targeting the islamic jihad militant group. 2 news update at this hour. coming up next. and d, w documentary looks at efforts to save the rain forest in brazil and cry. richardson, berlin fell gale will be lack of more news headlines. this would be our ah riddle look for the blue climate. ah, we're going to have some epic. moreover, water meter is becoming a scarce commodity. to look global,
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ah, i b o deep means forest. a forest is a sacred place where the guardian of the forest and the spirit slab man, my products. again. this is where we teach our children to find a settlement. ah, the forest gifts us approach like they are site. she banned the packet fruits out and meet from wild animals like monkeys applauded the forest gives us everything.
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we need to speak with it, like it's our livelihood. and it's the best school in my school with chow. i can't wait jewish up. um yeah. he meant for you it just the i u e g o i d e g e. no, i did, boy, a boy rico my they did. oh, how i did it the last time we use them that we regard the forest as our territory ego. i the end of the entire area is our
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territory. illness. so it's our forest and we look out for it. i get you like we done with a key, a key, a key, a b
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a will. hi. how's it going? good. are you asked about land prices in barra? yes, i have a construction company. oh there. if you'd like to list and make some money in, wanted to know what lender cost a lot is like a how much in brazil only began development in the amazon around 40 years ago by state i ah,
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with lovely. he busy with m in ali's life. so vision, i was funny with lizzie, with a susie, these are, there is, services are the place we are mothering all the news with you. most of it, you guys will, he's in this professional to missile has him in the process started under the military regime of the regions that belong to indigenous peoples. local populations. all the federal state were designated as unused by these were gradually developed by the central government, which encouraged people to move there and began issuing land ownership titles on the gal that was done through a legal process. but there's also
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a process called relies jamarcus thought of the illegal appropriation of large areas of rain forest. so that the land can then be sold to finance to signal their claim to an area of forest land grabbers usually just clear it of trees. and then over the years, they try to legalize the acquisition so they can make a profit off of it here. but the entire land grab process is actually initiated outside the amazon region by investors who work together with lawyers. it's a form of organized crime. ology cream in this until then is and hello, i lost you. i mean the car, where are you? oh, follow. i'm a laundry nazi. i told you land prices are going out and their farm is worth over $10000000.00 out with. i warn you by yourself some land and you'll get rid
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of that either. listen to me this time me to caesar. see my clearing the land. they claimed their basically signaling who it belonged to toys. gradually, however, claimed the land tries to legitimize their ownership, whether they can sell it later for a profit is also the land grab. it takes control of public health. the timber sets of capital ranch are giving it a veneer of legality and he sells the land. yes, 5 or 10 years later. as you know in the process must be stopped around will continue to lose on public land. large areas of unprotected rain forest and 1000000 square kilometers. a rain car is on designated public land. why it's not listed under conservation or indigenous land. so all the best, that's what the land grab is go off to law for the flight as long as these huge
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areas. the rain forest is so easy to claim a yellow game for land grabbers. that's what is the way 163 connected by and sundry data, saving the road many years ago, but only up to the border region of martha grocer and my little girl by the road said like that until around 2004. why my son in school bought out the gradually paving more roads again, it was up to this time because of the stimulus program between 9 nova. so we know it's just 28 kilometers of good roads that's being have now to i much love a few roads lead off highway 163 to the farms to 5. yeah,
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some areas are already developed and i close to the road. i further away i had gotten that he had that in my price is very valuable to put it with just one more kilometer a tractor tracks up covered hours from yesterday. you know what you wanted. so they were here after l. g because he thought he probably went that way with i got into while you're watching the area now. so the illegal loggers don't come back with them. you
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know, the environmental crime is very common around the cities of novel progressive castillo to sonya. any take to about environmental agency bama has its headquarters mm. with that i can give that to him on looking for a station is carried out by organized crime. here. you can tell by the way it's carried out today, the bus is all specialized in land grabbing my with the main catalyst for the for station is and speculation with it. and you still get anything at the old way. they not anymore. right? why no, no, actually, i last frontier in the northeast. a tall underway brook in montague are also there
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planting more soil where you can forget, ha ha ha, the frontier runs through there and through i'm a part of it is 4000 kilometers in omaha. and here there's the 2 and a half 1000 point with the fame went i guess i don't remember. so we often come across fake names and fake documents when we carry out inspection, that business is often done by middleman these last we have to stay on the back. so we meet the criminals, are always finding you trade that always using loopholes that make it harder to pin them down with. again, unless no man thought out in this document, i own a declares which areas have been cleared my knees and which areas are under permanent protection for muslim inflammation is false for his own 8 o'clock if on one place as well. here they wrote that a certain percentage of the area has been cleared,
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expedia that corresponds to this area here, this side of thought. but on the map and from the and we can see all of it is still covered by forest. and then the owner claimed his land was cleared a year ago so that he can use it for other purposes. like it will then he'll chopped down all the trees. by the time the environment agency gets there on the hill, insist it was logged a long time ago with blue l i. s l. we are on the way to castillo to san use, a district of altamira, billable. as we flew over the region, we discovered several illegal sawmills with a lot of logs, but the sawmills had already been shut down. that doesn't sound good bye to ah,
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the soonest trying to subvert our inspection. the bottom line is that the entire community lives off this environmental crime. that is all reality. there's not enough governmental oversight, rosie blue moon at the entrance, month. larry, if you send them away, anyone who's still there, we're taking them about that issue that us they were taking the logs to the forest . that's obvious. um, because it is he still here? oh, he was over there, it'll be gone by now. oh,
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tell me how this works. i know is there another saw mill over there? no, this all belongs together. come on. just like the timber stocks were documented here by the commissioner. other boy, man, this amount did i say that 70 meters, december 16th as in 2015 busy. so did i. that's an old document. quite old wood can be see. most of the series knew. we follow the gate only. who owns this wood? i don't know if all our kids gain do so. of course you do, don't catch your farm. no parcher jail on. it's not just mine. there are several entrances and other people come here to my lawyer today for yourself. it's not just my farm is also me ask the charcoal guy there. i just let him in a book, right. double called carbajal buys. yes, because he ever permits then he says ok. and i know the charcoal isn't on my fine, really. i'm on the well that's not my farm. the charcoal and the wood aren't years
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ago bought verbal and it's not on my farm. and the guy, ronald dynamo, but that's your waste ability. my mil hasn't been in operation for 2 years now. that's not true. do you see wood shavings? any work of this wood? if you're so smart, look and see if there are any wood shavings that we saw it from the air you've. you've no way my logs have been here for over 2 years. not that look at your satellite pictures from 2 years ago. come down me, tell him that i go on to the bay. i'm all right. calm down and is as so carrying out an inspection. and remember, you're a business window to behave like one thing for me, but as we're not having a punch up on the st. louis that we're inspecting your company healthcare. so please again, i'm fiscal as us on that, but it, is it, those on come on, i mean, calm down, why should i go long? let me come here down. why should i take responsibility for logs that aren't mon? cuz it's your little mill. you must know who comes and goes here. you know, let's start over as adam and here i know god little fella. this was a ha,
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it's my turn to speak. eric, we're going to inspect your company that form your attitude isn't doing you any favors. sounds like that, that in the well, i'll be here all day. so keep your cool, good year. we'll inspect your company. now i though, and you have all day to tell us who comes in here and who doesn't, toll money should really do that whole month. and that i key why saw her that if i doesn't open as a local missile, we've been monitoring you for at least a month. if we have ariel schultz with us, we know who's been coming and going all that given the could just, which is a seasonal position. now we're going to check things out to my, the more you cooperate, the better you can defend yourself to calm down. so many other things like a one level home as i thought, let start and get this over with that. okay, let's go one 0, well hi, 6 across these are different sizes. what floor?
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55. and they were saying there that you brush f 150. does everything is dodgy here in your documents? missing charcoal everywhere on the logs back there are his noted old down to the you'll get 3 or 4 citations or do you mean those logs there in the forest? yes, i did. i did the, you're probably the best time to buy land for soy plantation. the clock's ticking near the highway land cost close housing, rice, 2 and a half picked is all still cattle farms with half to land, but you can easily turn it into plantations. mile a little further up in the border community to box the thing on the top, i got the view to buy and many people are across from one another
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building, loading terminal, roy, their squad. so they should be in exactly the 1st stop is a sometime in mac, up are they are it gets shipped to asia and europe by my office. i'm also the thing most meals i, you know some of those days. this is the next part of the possible days. the next 10 years will be decisive for the amazon region. our plan, our agenda has 3 phases. 5, you know, the 1st phase is ensuring no more rain. forest is last thing. we must protect the remaining rain far as it's not them it and reduce the pay $50.00 for a station in the next 10 years, ideally to 0 on that. but in the 2nd phase, we need to establish the foundations for success and improve economic and social condition lies my the finance, the initial goals will take 10 years. but the 3rd phase even longer,
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this is what we want the amazon re shin, to serve as a yard state for the rest of brazil i. and which in a sense is already a benchmark. but the rest of the world is in the world that will entail finding solutions to economic and social issues. economy a project that will easily take 20 years at my cell. i filled out, we 1st have to solve the problem of deforestation because that's a cancer that threatens everything. look also to the best um, are we on the right path homes, but our cameras or can we solve the problem? if any is here. we want the amazon region to be an example of sustainable development where social economic and environmental aspects are all given equal weight that that will take long term investment wise will. it will take around 20 years to see a full return on that investment to us and will need about 5 years to reduce or stop deforestation as algebra. and that will be followed by a period of consolidation which will lay the groundwork for new initiatives is very
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easy for the eval summers of things amazon of i assume the spot also moves early in the next few years will invest between 25 to 40000000000 euros into the amazon region, the hydro power plants, new roads, power lines and mining projects. it's an unprecedented investment in this region mental no, thank parallel and i started amazon. i shall gather this as good as visuals by the present time on the out. if those investments don't address local conditions or social and environmental factors, they could back fire or it could cause land prices to skyrocket hill, which would attract more land grabbers and lead to more clear cutting of public rain forests is not on the internet as well as the food what are you saying we want to draw the boundaries ourselves for over 20 years. we've been fighting for the demarcation of our land. if you can. anthropological
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study was carried out. so that the phone i, the brazilian a steve founded to protect indigenous culture and people could register the boundary r m i z e l. a report is still in the possession of the for nie president, the but it is the to the from i was ms. up their eyes and she for you to xena. so a few months ago we went to brazil. yeah. to find the get it signed off by the phone i. we presented the report and 2013 and it still hasn't been signed today. i'm crossing, i'm, i have the report, it's on my desk. we discussed it, but in our final consultations, a series of unanswered questions relating to this region that came up with a, with that man, we needed to consult some other people. what i, you know, there's
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a draft project for a hydro power plant. i include the down to produce power. ha ha. if it is dam is very close to your area. yeah. and that's why we haven't signed anything yet. please. you know, we're not taking anyone else's property, we're just defending. what's ours going? i have a responsibility to you. you're totally in the right. but i believe and want to because if i stop believing, i wouldn't be sitting here as a representative of who now you have to defend our interests law. it's our job to represent your intro my thing. but parts of the government prioritize the construction of hydro power plant organ or not wind power that produces energy to
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a damn, destroys everything. then what's left mining with that this raj? yet he thought via the fullness a lot. there are so many projects for our region open and that really worries us. well, yet you more little cool. people don't want to lose the rain forest, the fish or the trees. yes, as i live, government needs to know we won't just give in my say, fuss will been able to so i don't get the last mistake in my view building more hydro power plants like the ones we already have in the amazon region to me is not the right approach, see it hydro power plants last big mining project or not the solution at, at the what? no, that ah, no, i do see that. yes, you could ask us, of course, these hydro power plants are an important source of energy for the countries developments. what is that? imagine what it any damn in the amazon region brings with it
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a lot of changes when it affects habitats, both in the water and on land. korea did their faith, i made no secret. the rochelle was added effects, the relationship between water and people. the bond, our people have to the water yalu laws operating. there was a good us pm of jackie. the reservoirs in the southeast, a tortoise, a painful lesson will know, see therapy. as we look ahead to developing the amazon region, we need to take the needs of local people into account chuck this for us as well as the energy needs of the rest of the country. amazon. yeah, we can't focus on protecting a specific section of riverside. we have to make sure the river as a whole, is preserved to use my z for zebra. the only way we can ensure a sustainable process of development for future generations and the amazon regional marzola. i, even though the process we wouldn't get wanted when it
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goes up. it's like said that it hasn't quite, it's astonishing 40 years into these major projects and we haven't changed our approach. typically they leave us with intractable problems. and yet we used to worry, an outsider would come and steal our wealthy location to day. some monster comes and turns our lives upside down. isn't all that i so then was the news argued that you masa you sa. brookie gave proof of planting l no middle the reserve oct orders . it's alarming how many dams are planned for the amazon region there in 92 dams in the pipeline to war. that's huge, right? and it will have an impact on the wida amazon reach out to lamazzo and our leaders are rebelling. the 1st priority is drawing the boundaries ah, ah, to the microphone called they said after the meeting,
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we decided to draw our own territorial boundaries. after informing the food i present happened, i thought, but if in the moon i suppose to represent indigenous peoples is not the government the most basic, but we had the sense they were under a lot of pressure. you still at one. so we decided to take action law. nice, nice young out there, my phone with more stuff. we're showing the government that it i tuba is home to the culture of the moon to recruit people who it and then i from i'm guessing 9 though most the phone i didn't want to sign up. so we decided to take things into our own hands. if we see me so that the white people know where our territory is, the 33 news phase we got hell from aldo top. azure shockey fuzzy sea is south of the mckesson june. ah, ah, ah,
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ah. so finally, if the government signed the report there, recognizing the claim of indigenous people to the land, it's our territory and we're drawing the boundaries in the lawful way. that gown ah ah, yeah, it's not an agent. when the invaders came to brazil, they used to shoot the indigenous people before today the government is trying to use the mega projects to destroy the indigenous people. the people of the rivers. the members of the ketone bola community who aren't respected either of 80 projects because yet to get comma come here. these projects are destroying the river, which we depend on. and project projects that are strong, the rain for in the flood without the rain forest and the river, we would no longer exist on someone. our people would die out and also not sony
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ah. okay. so if i get key, there's only this piece of the rain forest left eyes of my dad on the other side, the loggers are destroying everything. so that's why we have to take care of this here with this better since product, nothing i did, i did want to go live, a saw mill motto, crusoe. every day i started working with rude as a boy and i thought i lost a finger working as a carpenter, but i stuck with yeah, i do think that they come at l. this is come borrowed kashodi. we use it to make
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bores for the construction industry, microsoft of you? yes, this will, it is the most popular and real home is called muscle and dooper f. l. f. again, my fennel, luba. this is eric. yeah. what is this noise? it's yadi. again, what i gotcha, this is a shuttle bah, bah, bah, and ill, is it at the bar? and when i got jan, i sent you multiple passport, a film, my billing lou barbie's, lawyer secure when it was just your buzz of very good word to the marble a semester on. do those good to me, but it's only use for construction. roof girders, planks, things like that. yes, i guess this is a pay. it's one of the most expensive kinds of timber did on my scott. this is a bit warped and full of holes are so much left of your kids, but it's one of the most expensive was we have here in parra, may have found on my, the, my scott nice, thank you. but i think he is, how can i do it monday by spot us on? the me this is komatsu. know that it's also exporting is the 2nd most expensive food after a p. where does this come from?
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this comes from the san antonio plantation and on which we want to show you this national clinic. and this would hear somebody like this timber is that comes from the audio far ludlow the viet our timber from for come place. i had the key as here comes from the all to bring lou plantation, the brought all the bill to pass. you silly? where's that bare sent you the back. you take the highway from each i tuba for 18 kilometer long. i yet turn off the thin and had straight down the root. le without weather is about 40 kilometers yet is about 28 to the other. plenty shop he's right on there. not far i have like i said, the launch of this timber was delivered yesterday. another invoice hasn't been booked yet on the left, on my desk. okay. it's a shift to bow who'd this is, might i could she already had it? the other one is got a piano. uh huh. got a better. that's got a piano to the us has yet to bond. so is that again, we only deal in quality timber thing, but simply mcgee and you have documents in case you're infected. now they're not out of sasha. unless of course, you know,
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i have invoices receipts z. assume it all by the book go. no one would buy timber from me if i sent it to be lem without an invoice lender. my did, i only get paid when there's an invoice showing where the timber came from. he wanted the need proof of everything is origin, the company name, they won't take it to the audio old emerged on my the edit lou project qualify you . who do not think they're gonna pick it up either from this is from the sun to antonio. plenty. sure it arrived yesterday. i got for you. it list the origin and variety of would that make you that? how r e m timble donna? yup. i'm a par and shuttle back. you're good and here's the total volume into 323529 cubic meters of timber. the thought. ah
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oh my dear that the the gal that i feel my body, they got it will get that illegal gym or is treated like it's legal. it's not the fraud is in the fake documents and we've got countless examples. what is the state of per hour? is a major timber importer. does that mean? what is important there? no. what's important or the documents that legalized the illegal felling of trees? there might be a, a nickel acting is not god broken edge. seek jesus, a book, not up and you get all these fake documents because there's no forestry management, a new private window ship in the region. while it's all the legal, it's hard to keep things above board when there's no legal framework for our control center that i support those who act legally late, but they don't exist here. i'm gonna call them if you build a route with a conservation area on the right. indigenous territory on the left engine. i leave the rest unclaimed. yeah, the land grabbers are always the 1st. they all go back. i shouldn't been in a shady bmw
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all. okay, buddy. oh hey, how big is, was in the queue. i school, you know, 800 square kilometers and okay. and the price? well, are now $20000000.00. 20000000. okay. i'll get on it. thanks. bye. oh, okay. my my now on angie's, at his niche thing, the amazon region is still at risk. i don't. the problem is as acute as ever, then inside the, for example, the ministry still does it know what land clearing payments have been issued in each federal, state. and loss of our goal is not the legalization, but the prevention of deforestation without the law must be obeyed. but ma'am, currently there is no way to distinguish between illegal land owners and lawful ones misuse e. but we need to fix that. we need to know what's legal and what isn't. she didn't
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wear and yoga book. mr. appleton. thank you, sarah. less enjoyed lou murphey followed up was funny. as i already said, to my family, the government representatives will never understand what's happening with the climate right now. mm. people get, you know, why not, because they work in air conditioned offices they block will get into their air conditioned cars and drive back to their air condition homes. as far as they're concerned, nothing's happening. it was interesting wasn't what about an old indigenous people must make their voices had a and we should be quiet and listen to them gauge song. wish they're not the owners of brazil. they possess nothing that it is so, but they are. the guardian said they slavish. they lived with this land bas wishkey
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age. so they are one with the amazon region, a saw with a rain forest alma with the earth on which they live. it will just how it doesn't belong to them, but they are one with it. it is. they are one entity down a dish. it looks all that there. mm. yeah. and we must learn from them. we live all . no, sir, but it doesn't belong to us. the earth can exist perfectly without us. why does she? but we cannot exist without piano for them to assist you there. mm. you might, when we see the river as our legacy, it wasn't created without a reason. that top ocean was created by the god carlos i cable from the seats of the to come up roots out of like a blue. i was like, i bled only here. let's click any face iris. a cable was
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a warrior. whatever he wanted to create. he created e turn to some of them on the roku, into pigs and others into fish look out with a cable and the area where the pigs crossed through. i want your book as what were d marketing now? masonic? yes. fuzzy las out with amazon again. we really live share the amazon region is often regarded by brazilians on the coast as a bit of a remote back water buffalo. but in truth, this is one of south america's oldest cradles of civilization. so he'll be also bought by amazon region as the birthplace of many indigenous peoples who populated the continent. he knew g garage even slash air. it's the sight of huge technological and cultural innovation. this information doesn't go slash,
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but boyle, middle temp. why such as ceramics and farming liberal daughter which were emerging at roughly that time in the old while yankee foyer air larger congestion lost many of us imagined the amazon region as empty of people. it was you mom at this emptiness was 1st caused by the european immigrants here, the white people, amazon or his young or before that it was a well populated region, flourish the muzzle, any camouflaged the rain forest developed in harmony with the people that inhabited it. key a beetle and they've got many fruits implants that are so well known to day blown dish can dish run, we're following the brazil, not the baba to palm the back re the cap. oh, so the page palm, some blunt as well cultivated by indigenous people. so neither foot away, she's evil v i drive here because the amazon's indigenous residence was, had that agricultural know how i'm gonna lose his amazon a seizure. a large part of the rang forest was shaped by human hands full to dog.
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but his insulin, in contrast to the white people whose ancestors emigrated to the americas this 500 years ago, king by gina, presence of indigenous peoples, help sustain the life of the rain, forest or crush to liam and not destroy it, like we're doing today. muslim fidela, dante, amazon, and one of those you visit the amazon region is a product of the co existence of millions of species, of which we are only one. interest was a most m of one m. l. food and provided milliner. humans have existed for millennia, alongside many other different forms of line. you're so so in theory, settled interdependent and in balance with somebody. i don't know if the rain forest is the long of the world, but it's certainly the heart of brazil, a wonderful little finish. don't put us on the missouri. ah.
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if you keep a river becomes my body. ok, you kind of you. why do i say this rivers? my body? it's the body of every human being. the water of these rivers course is through our veins. was my, the lawyers are destroying its source, he got up so the entire river will gradually die out. the 1st of the tributaries dry out was got up, but they'll still feed the top of your shall it in a 100 years like you, we my had to fight for this water. no lumber yet the lad. mm. oh, i don't that. what's the best approach? i just got the 1st fire, then the 2nd, the cattle can come about to find a pack the soil down. so you rotate the patches. wait a bit more fire. fire gets you a good posture from you, burned all the branches, the heavy logs. i used to build
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a cow sheds, and frances, alive to all right. you had cause 15000 rice to build a fence. you don't have to buy. would you just pay the workers and buy the material? you're going to get a nice piece of land on the cheap my buy my motto, grocer, cattle rancher switched to soybeans. and once land for cattle in the account, get developed land for a 1000000 anymore. said you back 10 or 12000000 day. so what about leasing with someone who wants a 10 year lease for 4 years of cattle timing? 6 years of soy runs the boy. ah
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