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death and reincarnation. for 75 years after independence, india is a blend of spirituality and modernity. a country where millions of children are still forced to work well. indigenous a displaced for valuable resources. a nation with growing global influence both economic and political a country that promotes the merging of religion and politics. a place where hate speech and violence against non hindus are on the rise. for

blue is this the india that mohandas, cramped and gandhi known as mahatma all great sol dreamt 12 in his teachings and visions. a man who with his philosophy of non violent resistance, left his mark on collective memory and led his country to independence. in 1947, a man who envisioned an india with equal rights for all regardless of face an india that would vanquish poverty in modern india. what is left of mahatma gandhi's dream? oh, ah, ah,

i moon gandhi was born in 1934. he's a grandson of mahatma gandhi, and spent time with his grandfather as a child. i would characterize my grandfather being a visionary. yeah. he had really had her love and compassion for everybody for me as a grandfather. and he was very loving, really caring, very committed to her grandfather. he took the responsibility of taking care of me because my parents had gone away, leaving me there alone. mahatma gandhi espoused the principle of non violent resistance against the british colonial power. a model for pro democracy movements to this very day.

vanden, a shiva is a leading human rights activist in india and around the world to day. gullies, philosophy of non violence is a deep philosophy and practice. it is more relevant for india to day and the world than it was a 100 years ago. when he articulated it and lived he came up would be ideal for suck, gallagher, which is a combination of george ship gear, meaning truitt, and our graham meaning pursued donkey gandhi's greatest act of civil disobedience was the salt march of 1930 for 24 days. he walked almost to 400 kilometers, with his followers, eventually harvesting a few grains of salt at dandy beach on the arabian sea.

a symbol of rebellion against the british salt monopoly and the high taxes, the empire levied on salt. the british and imperialism are so greedy. they want to make money out of everything. they wanted to make money out of our salt. in hot climates you need salt, and india was making salt all along the coastline by evaporating water from the sea . the british made it illegal to assault law. gone. b walked to dandy beach, picked up the salt from the sea. he said, nature gives it for free. we needed for our survival. we will not obey a law and loan with political contemporaries such as your hula, narrow, and beer and bed cur gandy achieved something, seemingly impossible. on the 15th of august 1947 india gained independence. long

years ago, we made it with definite. and now the time comes, when we shall the deal at the foot of the midnight top. when the room sleep, well when are we lightened vito but the jubilation would soon fade something that candy never wanted. the division of the indian subcontinent became a reality. the partition between india and pakistan. so more than $10000000.00 hindus and muslims flee their homelands, the population exchange was fraught with violence. more than a 1000000 people lost their lives. then came the next devastating turn of events on the 30th of january, 1940. 8 gandy was assassinated by

a radical hindu nationalist. ah. c o. e lemma. the great, so did not live to see the indian constitution come into force in 1950. ah for he wandered india for b. m a, an example, a shining example of how a non violent society can exist, study and how we can live happily with each other. but that, that sandra, happening, ah, gandhi's sayings continue to provide inspiration the world over. but do his teachings and ideals still have meaning in the india of today.

aah! vote canvassing for the b. j. p. the party of prime minister and a render. a modi very nazi is modi's constituency. a b j. p stronghold in the state of which i pradesh from new york to b. j. p is determined to sweep the elections to the legislative assembly in march 2022. i got and i was all of them. and one i, you remember i could not hear you. i got one on a he made a name that got it with

somebody that will not let me live. that may have looked at me. never really oh, dandies only deals of tolerance and non violence on not exemplified by the b. j. p . the right wing hindu nationalist party was founded in 1980. it's now india's strongest political force. it's rise has been nothing short of meteoric. today, it boasts the largest membership of any policy in the world, the b, j. p, as he is to the principles of the hindu to offer a movement that sees hindus as the historic victims of muslim and british colonial rule and injustice. it is determined to remedy in 2014 the b j. p again became the ruling party of india under prime minister modi since then.

there's been a shop increase in hate speech and violence against muslims. i would transfer very near their mark, see on lin name. i, it's not a true democracy. their whole pillows appears to stark, which is a negative philosophy, her a making india into a hindu country and eliminating all the other minorities from india and her day seemed to be doing that in a quiet gray with instigating her problems with christians and problems with bushland and you know, making them ha, ha, unsafe in the country, which is all against the a basic constitution of the country. ah

. 2 i j, sri rom, or haile load rama has become the b j piece battle cry in its fight for the hindu cause. ringback ringback ringback ringback ringback ah, to understand political india and an arrangement modi, it's necessary to delve into hindu mythology. according to legend, rama was born and i, your dear, not far from vern asi roma is an incarnation of the hindu. good vishnu. one of the most revered deities in hinduism, b, j. p. supporters worship him above all other gods. it's believed the temple in rama's honor once stood in

a yoga that is until the muggles muslims from central asia who ruled india from the 16th to the 19th centuries, demolished the temple and erected the barbary mosque in its place. for many hindu nationalists and b, j. p supporters. the masks that have replaced hindu temples are a symbol of that detested muslim roof. in 1992, the barbary mosque was torn down by nationalist hindu demonstrators. the ensuing unrest claimed the lives of around 2000 people. a new realm. a temple is now under construction on the very same site with the approval of india supreme court, an act of belated restitution for hindu nationalist. this is the moment to unleash our non violent pass and re imagine danny's teachings

for relevance to us. me, india under the b. j. p is a far cry from gandhi's ideals. the recess is the volunteer organisation of the hindu to ment, promoting hindu nationalist values through discipline and power. military training the many of the ministers in modi's government as well as the prime minister himself, our products of the r s. s. system. it's the idea. logical superstructure of the b . j. pe gandy is assassin to god had earlier been a follow of the movement of the present government in, in, near, is made up or for people who believed in the assassination of brandy, who believed that gun. the was the enemy of the country and,

and he's element, nation was justified. and right. i think it's a very sad situation that such people have made brought in to power. i'm mad that those who did their her i'm checking the vote to list with a corresponding booth president of jessica on checking each and every name music you them. how many people from this list have we not distributed this little to what in the he bought? if we weren't able to distribute 300 slips got on. what was the reason behind it? who i've me, i'll be i'm the person doesn't live there anymore. ha. he was a tenant, toppled. he was a student lager and his land to keep it. it was a girl how she's moved out of the city. yet it's important for us to record this accurately realized, 2 to 3 people on every street on every alleyway schedule so that we can get the votes street by street or live eisen. it goes, i believe island goes, okay,

i see. huh. so if we divide the area in $20.00 to $25.00 south sanctus and place one of our walkers and each one of them them get the maximum value maximum voltage, low mcculla linger given the b j. p. is in the master of bureaucracy. the party compiles meticulous records on each and every citizen. in an effort to reach potential voters sung the tongue comedies of civil is. our organization is our biggest strength, our party is a party of discipline. why? because i got up whatever task we undertake, we do them only after getting our president's permission to go back. c on via a fidget i hello, brother. your sponsors been allotted at assay crossroads for the pm's roach area. the organization asks you to assemble a 1000 people off to that. you all have to keep walking alongside him. cool. no one

should go back till we reached the university gate. ah, [000:00:00;00] with a slab yet, because me and no other government could do the work he's done in 5 years. there's devotion, inclusive, development, and many other thing. what was this ideology? well, when once again with 300 quasi ah,

it's night fallen vari now c and the procession. the election campaign appearance by no render mowdy continues. in the march 2022 elections in ot pradesh. the b j. p. captured a large majority and was returned to paula in the states to, ah, ah,

in modern india, children in marginalized communities are often put to work making breaks. a reality that doesn't correspond with mahatma gandhi's vision of freedom the week when do you start working? at one i am on a well, do you get proper sleep? got no, we don't to do the oil. do you sleep? no. do up a m look at these children. no dish. no. a child who has to work out wine

mother loves them a new router. bursley is a regular visitor to the break yards. her organisation avenue campaigns for children's rights. she knows what they endure from personal experience, so good faith. unfortunately, my child was really hard. for my ease of 6, i will put myself into domestic work and help myself the way the school. of course you to power the all my other listen so they would all to working my. i'm the when i worked and also study i am, i will complete my was there you ation. ah, in social work with nonprofit further for i always feel that some want to do me opportunity an opportunity. she also wants to give to the kids from the break factories by helping them go to school.

india's constitution prohibits child labor, but the international labor organization says that in 2020, almost $13000000.00 indian children between the ages of $7.17, were forced to work the fort worth it without knocking the village is enough for food, but we can't save anything. we have come up with here, we can earn money to educate our children. ah, what a look in the village. we don't own any money. we can barely feed ourselves. that's why we work here. don't make if you can't, you leave them behind on the village at the home of a relative day, next week while you get the letter it's available in book i said, how can i leave them behind? i updated the one good day. these are bad times. how could i leave them there alone?

old won't be at our is that sort of where now. and so parents just bring their children along to make brakes instead of sending them to school. education wasn't enshrined as a fundamental constitutional right in india. until 2009. since then children between the ages of 6 and 14 are required by law to attend school. in theory. but in practice, millions of indian children still aren't getting an education for your place to do. you have to repay money. you borrowed weight shepherd villiad lily? yes, i go to the how much did you borrow the $150000.00 rupees hippie? what did you do with it? love i repaid another loan, and maggie linda by gentle got a little book and most of these parents they,

they add one's money from the owner. and in order to pay back, the whole family has to make that many breaks. so that they're able to pay back their day. they have decor. once you take the loan, you never come out of that so good. you have to keep on coming every year to pay back what their what is remaining mhm. ah, many of these people are not age okay. did. so they don't even know how much they have paid back and how much is the remaining

ah my david is am, could i have john cheap labor? and the only way we can get cheap labor is by exploiting people to day her father. he is the new form of slavery. in the old days when we need a cheap labor, he and slave people and the exploit the day to day because of slavery's abolish. we exploit people by keeping them involved as a boy out in gandhi lived with his grandfather, mahatma gandhi for a time, the experience has never left him. he regularly visits his homeland,

although he now lives in the us. yes. yes. ah ah, mandy aspires to keep his grandfather's values the life in india. he supports humanitarian projects, such as the of any foundation. it's boarding schools, provide girls with a formal education. more than 5000 children have already attended one of the 57 of any centers. the project so almost exclusively financed through international foundations. mia barley, happy, kept everything clean, boilers open the window. dear, good, read the irons, not on right. no ma'am. and the garbage that i hear it. and if you were to play them, he'd, jaqueline, don't you clean the room in the morn,

how you make gardener put the i'm away properly. but for the family working only because i only got up i yes ma'am, was out here for the hope of you know that way i back i forgot about boy you know with up but given the ideals and life story of mahatma gandhi are often featured on the of any curriculum, clarin gandhi does some teaching himself either online from the us or him person, when he's visiting the girls affectionately referred to him as apa g. and his grandfather mahatma gandhi as bob who g at by de la aden at once apa to his pencil became very small that he thought it had become too small to use. so he threw it away, lab by dina. but then upper jay went to barbara g and said give me a pencil,

buffer dba. but, but she asked, where's your grandmother's pen so that there were made by the my buddies said, i've thrown it away because it was so small or did the one on unadilla then. but you told him to go and find it. oracle analogy. he went to search for it. oh, good, good. he found a pencil and shouted to property london about with babich. he told him he could use this pencil for 4 more months. this citizen, this teaches us how we should conserve resources. really does my project. we have a moment for the future of the guns. i think of some of them have. i graduated from high schools and they've gone in or higher education and they've come back and they also continue to go with

this institution her and continued to bring about a change. yeah, we'll keep on talking about that in a why this is important that able to change your default unity in order to develop a country. did you not? not only a mold, the child is, i won't this country. i won't on nation. i may not know how you might not have you had washed your legs or your hands had to find the law. so like i'm, let's go to school of any runs brickyard schools at the sites where the children work. they help prepare the littlest ones for their primary education,

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living in harmony with nature. but how can that work if powerful companies of violently seizing the land with. c behind a pool beyond b r i dibiase community worships hills to get body quine. we also worship the rivers, the small hills, the trees and the rock were saying, but vertically blue. thank you. oh income? because the whole idea of divinity, our perception of day it is, comes from what we see and things we know the history of this disco every tree is of benefit to us was go by the way paid. i got, hey,

the bill to say when go find i think i don't, i don't the audi vesee are the indigenous people of india. the name is derived from the hindu words id or beginning and vasey, which means do i laugh? there are more than $700.00 id vasey communities across the sub continent, each with its own cultural and ethnic identity, their own faith and their own languages. almost 9 percent of the population of india already vesee. more than 104000000 people. and he was his i'm one exit wednesday out of ashy people, leader, communal lawyer, family in tribal culture. people don't access the forest as individuals. they

function as a community in the summer that they worship as a community. what a fish, as a community will sick when a farm they also do that together. so it's very important for them to get community rights all important. take it somewhere. they got a garden, common everything within the village boundaries is used by them. on the as a community guilty, there was i want a globe sales guy. is them? i got a bad yeah. gabby was he on the audi varsity here. all of us together are implementing the forest rights act in an effective way. you hear ya bids and people collect bamboo, 10 do leaves, butter tree blossoms and other forest produce and sell it. and below this is there, mean that subsystem is fill soon goodbye salmon diet. i'm the new d. hey, it was so and coupled old that a little our day in an effort to protect the traditional way of life and culture of the advocacy the forest rights act was passed in 2006. the law

recognizes the rights of forest dwellers to the land. they've lived on for generations, but time and again, companies try to drive the advocacy from their homelands. their land is often rich in resources, such as word and other raw materials which arouse his greed zip . susanna got cut out when the mining and sergio got started in 2005. he added the authority is conducted a public hearing. the people who live in the affected area who have a long relationship with the hills. they should have been present at that public hearing look last probably, but they help the meeting, 100 kilometers away. i know to you. does that non tribal people who have no idea about the forest when they were brought along the tracks and paid on to attend the hearing? goodbye mc wood's bunny. non table, the local people whose lives are dependent on the hill. i can look not a single one of them was able to participate what a,

what it could be. the people were prevented from knowing what is happening in their foreign denisa in their hills. logan go muslim. they will not to you is that as i believe i'm, this is a conspiracy between the government and the mining company. how to go out of jewish shouldn't be happen any surely under a some is it like they had the were year. is that as a neo nazi lives so, so my no got he is a lawyer who advocates for andy vastly rights. he's also from the community, a member of the medea indigenous people and you are seeing some would they be out of as a community is not well educated, was that there are many villages here when no one has ever started that way. if we want to claim our individual forest right, we have to submit proof that i am doing that. if we don't have that proof our, our claim won't be recognized at all. i got a better boss. i gotta keep rove me,

walk out of as he often don't hold on to document 2nd, because they can't read them. what's your target? they often throw them away. either they won't give us nick jak, i that but look at the will pick data you want to land grant by which place for my land which land over there your home? yes. mid beach trying to him a long time, or you had a vasey activity in writing. he has advocacy. i'd be what he. i good luck with maria. yes, maria maria, that you have that documented. i dunno after you have a car certificate? no, no, no, no one in the family does a lot of money. love you with the money. no nobody

i'm thinking thumbprints or signature a router and i don't know how to sign. belinda, do we have a stamp it? yes. i gave me your hand. i well, your name is bonnie wright committed. yes, vanya well, this odyssey, no. when he can't think if you have a scheduled tribe certificate, the process is quicken, otherwise there's a lot of hassle on what we need to make a better job of it again. but i'm filling in the details for you guys if i believe it done by a full job. if anything's missing, we'll send it on later. don't worry. i've seen all the papers have older model one, the only other. well,

you got recently had another maria than that be? yes it got it totally did. the mountie a tried can only be found in the got you raleigh district because one of the characteristics of particularly vulnerable tribal groups is that, that you graphically isolate, typically, either isolated from the wider community bodies or you can only find them a less specific area. if the war bug me will up go, why is i in the local indigenous communities have already suffered

a painful loss. a mining company is extracting iron or on one of the hills. now they're not allowed to access the area and can only look at it from a far. for the medea the hill has always been sacred. the place they used to go to offer press the iron or mine is more than just a blight on the landscape. along with the sense of spiritual loss comes the worry about environmental pollution. these are brought paula's. they have limitless greed. they can exercise all their corruption on any government. but they are tribals who say don't mindful coal. that tribals will say stop the pollution of our land

with with that in the south of the and the big a little my do you worship in the godaddy? oh god, the law, where is simon? good. god. is there it? where is it? on the map here, then i got many of our communities, laws and customs are only oral, not written tradition again, because if we get the line rights for palmer account, it will be documented in writing. i got, i mean it will are gonna be this one. i don't know if my lord i visited the doj road right. nor do i stand on my front door dre this way yearning and to juvie and i don't know where god is here and butcher is here. the ultimate be drawn here, mrs. sanchez ali, that good. it's, and a lot of the, the hills are here, little madeline, is that all that to know about? you, jo,

traditional lead us it down. they went together with the traditional leaders of our village communities were preparing a document, which we will submit as a claim to i'm look, all claim cannot miss submitting it was school monday. got a niggley. i'm look, see that i seem to have it recognized. i have to prepare it properly. this is very interesting and important. want somebody like on board the interesting, our body model pulled me even. i'd wilkin to get to pull in a day when i am, i leave us. you know, we the out of assay, people will only survive if the river, the forest and the land survive. otherwise our society will be destroyed was ada. oh, oh, i got a ye, happy dead, right. will you like about going to me like i'm like if we get the habitat bryant's for the common god area, the nobody from outside help with no mining company, multi national,

or even the government will be permitted to take action for the supposed development of the advocacy and he was, he won't get any gaskin on, but the one they hook body was equal. what do i, did massey really want when good will mining bring progress or, or would they rather live from and with the trees and enjoy sustainable development trash. what we got on it, what i our community will make these decisions together and put them into practice or discuss log, log blending, cutting. no was cow management getting. ah, ah ah,

ah, ah, who gandhi's vision encompassed the whole wild all of humanity. a while to not divided by nations and buddhist but geopolitical realities appear rather different to day. india is becoming an increasingly important player on the global stage into india's biggest geo political challenge. and it's major rival is china, an economic conflict that is also vitally linked to security interests. in 2021, china was home to 1420000000 people in india, the wild, 2nd most populous nation,

1390000000. both powers is striving to expand their sphere of influence in the pacific region and around the world. and both countries on nuclear palace, india and china separated across the himalayas by a demarcation line that has never been formally negotiated a de facto border, long disputed by both sides. the 2 countries went to a one month long war over the border in 1962 in the as a trying to consolidate its waters. and i think that is, is generating a lot of friction, most visibly manifested in the galvan ready crisis. ofa rented grande, so there is certainly that, you know, one manifestation is that borders is becoming wallet i. and that is a change from the earlier position when you know,

when. busy samson was that in the n j now will non board, the water will border, they have a settle mechanism, then they will negotiate and, and they will see, show me the pain. but you know, they will continue to negotiate. that is changing now of you've seen in the galvan places that force is being used. a violence was used and there were debts on both sides. i think that volatility, that the line of actual controllers are to scald, of, is becoming more volatile, more dangerous. and so it's, it's one major station, the both sides law feel that they need to push back against the other the himalayas are the most important source of fresh water for both countries. that's one reason for the conflict between india and china. but the dispute is about far more than the border and natural resources.

the security architecture of asia is his field of expertise. harsh ve pant works for a renowned indian political institute. he's been observing china's efforts to position itself as the leading global power, which india regards as a threat to its own security interests. china views itself, especially unless she jin thing and of current precedent or views itself as a country that has arrived as a country that you know that as a nation, that is rightfully acquiring its position in the global stage and. and therefore, for china, it's a question of achieving that status and using all means to achieve that status requiring others to christabel systems, india and countries vacant. they have called for a marty bullet world, or that would be one by what we distributed across countries. so in the us, in some way,

it's challenged that idea that in one country can dominate the system and therefore with china, india wants to make it very clear that there are certain deadlines that can and because india and china are also economic rivals, india is refusing to participate in china's new silk road initiative by offering loans and investment, same ports, railroad foods, and other infrastructure projects. china is working to secure partnerships with countries the world over what her china wants to do is not really build capacities in these countries, but use it's excess capacity. the china has a drew to father. it's your political agenda. if you look at be built and rolled initiatives are consequences to the a number of these projects are stuck. a number of these countries are facing problems with the debt. and in

a lot of the projects that china had initiated in these countries, have been a chinese online chinese executed without building any capacity in smaller countries. india is pursuing a different strategy, bolstering the domestic economy, while capturing markets not yet dominated by china, by offering quality products at a low price. but challenge auto is a long established indian company and a global player, but judge scooters and motor bikes, enjoy cult status in india, and can be found on the roads of more than 70 nations worldwide. article. oh, good. i will. and the b ha,

i read gone good, fierce competition from primarily many chinese brands because the chinese motorcycle industry had grown. and once, you know, there was over capacity in china that was spilling all, were too many, many parts of the board, whether it was latin america or africa. on the streets of lagos, nigeria, the judge, made books and muddle is the market leader. nigeria is the single largest market via or will mean 50 percent plus share it is the market where my job or to start is africa. invent jeff?

and it was in somebody's great proving golf because of the market today, almost every current bike on the road of the whole continent of africa is a judge boxer alongside africa. but judge is expanding its export markets to south america and the middle east rushes invasion of ukraine in early 2022 cent geopolitical shock waves around the world. the war has also put india under the international spotlight as a key strategic partner for many nations. india enjoys

increasing count on the global political stage. the west is coating india, a democracy and major economic power as a bull walk against the china and russia axis. while weston sanctions mean india is now a key customer for russian will and military exports. jonah, for example, is gravitating much closer to russia, in particular, after euclid in crisis did is expectation that as i change i and i will get even even closer so. so there is certainly the fragmentation of the global on that in china and india. i think this contestation is in some way that the heart of that fragmentation

india's assessment has been that india can not afford to look away from the china. entertain with your forces are eyeball to eyeball, almost on the border. are you really cannot afford to antagonize a country lake? russia, which supplies you with our 55 percent of your defense requirements. so therefore, in years that i'm legally criticized russia and he has not taken a stand isolating rashad, sanctioning russia that many list and countries have done. but you see, live in use and even on that issue, you see india to be is talking about the centrality of you in chapter centrality of international law centrality of this idea of data to the integrity and sovereignty, managing global disputes. and that is basically a targeted at russia to the issue in your 1st means that india is vital interests of sacrosanct. they can not be compromised. and therefore the position that india will dig on the global stage be determined by how those national interests are

being fathered. industry and the don't trend of india 1st is a far cry from mahatma gandhi's hopes for his independent india. we are not in a good place where a few people decide what they want to do, but the what was come from green and violence. piece comes from giving, sharing and non violence. ah, grand news philosophy, good international philosophy. it is about the good of human beings and trying to

bring up the goodness in every human being and creating harmony. ah ah.

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