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ally. ah, i b o y it means forest. a forest is a sacred place where the guardian of the forest and the spirit slab man my products . again. this is where we teach our children to find a settlement. ah, the forest gives us fruits like they are site. he and the packee fruits out and meet from wild animals like monkeys applauded the forest gives us everything we
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need to speak with . i like it's our livelihood and it's the best school. oh, my scholar with chow, i ended up with chant, late jewish app. um yeah. he meant for you it just the i u e g o i d e. got it. now i did play a blinker my they did. oh, how i did it. oh not them. we give them the keys. we regard the forest as our territory. egypt po,
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a b, a will. hi. how's it going? good. and you asked about land prices, ibarra? yes, i have a construction company below it like to list and make some money in the wanted to know what lender cost is like a how much in brazil only began development in the amazon around 40 years ago. i stayed going i ah,
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ah, blah blah blah, blah busy, but m in always mindful of all this and i was funny with lizzie, loosely, us easy. these are there, he services are the place we are so that in all the news that are settled, he said that he said he wanted to visit and you guys are gonna lose his image. ah, this professor muscle, him in the process started under the military regime of the regions that belong to indigenous peoples, local populations. all the federal state were designated as amused by these were gradually developed by the central government, which encouraged people to move their lives and began issuing land ownership titles
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on the gal that was done through a legal process. but there's also a process called relies jamarcus not at the illegal appropriation of large areas of rain forest, so that the land can then be sold quite asked to signal their claim to an area of forest land grabbers usually just clear it of trees. and then over the years, they try to legalize their acquisition so they can make a profit off of it here. but the entire land grab process is actually initiated outside the amazon region by investors who work together with lawyers. it's a form of organized crime. ology cleaning this until then. hello. hello, i lost you. i am in the car. where are you? oh, follow. i'm a laundry now. i told you land prices are going out in the farm is worth over 10000000 out with i warned you by yourself some land and you'll get rid
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of it. i will listen to me this time me to caesar clearing the land. they claimed their basically signaling who it belonged to toys. gradually, whoever claimed the land tries to legitimize their ownership, they can sell it later. for a profit is also the land grab. it takes control of public land sells but timber sets of capital ranch are giving it a veneer of legality and he sells the land 5 or 10 years later with us. as soon as you know, any process must be stopped around, we'll continue to lose our public land, large areas of unprotected rain forest. 1000000 square kilometers. the rain cars did on designated public land. one that's not listed under conservation or
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indigenous land. so all this process that's what the land grab is go off to law for the flood as because there's long as these huge areas of rain for us to so easy to claim a yellow game for land grabbers. that's what is the way 163 connected by and sundry m l data saving the road many years ago, but only up to the border region of martha grocer and my little black and the road said like that until around 2004. why my internet is gradually started saving long roads again, i think it was after this time because of the stimulus program between 9 nova. so we know it's just 28 kilometers of good roads that's being paved now to how much left
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a few roads lead off highway 163 to the farms to 5. yeah, some areas are already developed and are close to the road. i was, i further away i just gotten a hold of you got in my price is very valuable to pay it with just one more kilometer a tractor tracks of covered hours from yesterday. yes. what did you want? so they were here after ronald's you because he thought he probably went that way off with a got it into while you're watching the area now. so the illegal loggers don't come back with
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them . you know, environmental crime is very common around the cities of novel. progressive castillo to sonia's and take to about environmental agency. bama has its headquarters. mm. with that i can give that to him on looking for a station is carried out by organized crime. here. you can tell by the way it's carried out today, the buses are specialized in land grabbing. the main catalyst for deforestation is, and speculation, to log in to some info if you still get anything at the old way they not anymore. right. why no, no, actually. i last frontier in the northeast. a tall underway brook in montague are
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also there planting more soil where you can forget or the frontier runs through there and through. i'm a part of it is 4000 kilometers in omaha. and here there's the 2 and a half 1000 component with the fame, with his own jump number. so we often come across fake names and fake documents when we carry out inspection, businesses often done by middleman these last we have to stay on the back. so we need, the criminals are always finding you trade unless they're always using loopholes that make it harder to pin them down with the camera. less momentum. what out in this document i own a declares which areas have been kid, my knees and which areas are under permanent protection for muslims. that information is false for his own integral. okay, for my place as well. here they wrote that
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a certain percentage of the area has been cleared, expedia that corresponds to this area here, this side of thought. but on the map and from the and we can see all of it is still covered by forest items that then the owner claimed his land was cleared a year ago so that he can use it for other purposes. like it will, then he'll chopped down all the trees. by the time the environment agency gets there on the hill, insist it was logged a long time ago with blue saying that we are on the way to custodial to son use a district of altamira, billable. as we flew over the region, we discovered several legal sawmills with a lot of logs. but the sawmills had already been shut down that i just saw the back
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ah, the soonest trying to subvert our inspections. the bottom line is that the entire community lives off this environmental crime. that is all reality. there's not enough governmental oversight, rosie blue moon. i'm at the entrance mclary if you send them away or anyone who's still there, we're taking them in about that issue that us they were taking the logs to the forest. that's obvious. um, because it is he still here? oh, he was over there. it'll be gone by now. oh,
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tell me how this works. i know is there another saw mill over there? no, no. this all belongs together. come on. it's like the timber stocks were documented here by the commissioner of the boy meant this a ma did i say that 70 meters december 16th as in 2015 busy. so did i that's an old document. quite old would. can i see that most of the series knew of me follow the gate? tell me who owns this would do. i don't know if i like it again. so of course you do, don't get your farm bill box by jail on it. it's not just mine there. are several entrances and other people come here to my lawyer today for yourself. it's not just my farm, it's awesome to ask the charcoal guy there. i just let him in a book, right? double called carbajal buys. yes, because he have a permit then he says,
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and i know the charcoal isn't on my fine really. i'm on. well that's not my farm. the charcoal and the wood aren't yours on an open carboy. it's not on my farm. and if i ronald dynamo, but that's your waste ability. my mil hasn't been in operation for 2 years. not that's not true. do you see wood shavings? any work of this wood? if you're so smart, look and see if there are any wood shavings that we saw it from the air. you attribute no way my logs have been here for over 2 years. not that look at your satellite pictures from 2 years ago. calm down me, tell him that i should have gone to the bay. i'm all right. calm down and as, as we're carrying out an inspection, can't remember if you're a businessman to behave like one thing for me, but as we're not having a punch up on the st. louis that we're inspecting your company, healthcare actually please. as a gala, i'm fiscal as us on that, but it is it though, so on. come on, i mean come down. why should i, how long? let me come here down. why should i take responsibility for logs that aren't mon? cuz it's your little mill. you must know who comes and goes here. i use. no that's don't over her sides in here. i know god, there's a fella. this is a ha,
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it's my turn to speak. eric, we're going to inspect your company, or your attitude isn't doing you any favors. sounds like that, that in the well, i'll be here all day. so keep your cool, good year. we'll inspect your company now and you have all day to tell us who comes in here. but though, and who doesn't toll money should really do that, man. hey, anthony, why? i saw her ladders. if i don't open as a local missile, we've been monitoring you for at least a month. if we have ariel shots that we know who's been coming and going all that give us like a disk which is a seasonal position. now we're going to check things out to my, the more you corporate, the better you can defend yourself to calm down. so many other things like a one on one miss, i thought let's start and get this over with that. okay, let's go with
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those as well. hi, 6 across these are different sizes. what floor at 55. and they were saying there that you brush f 150, everything is dodgy here and your documents, missing charcoal everywhere on the logs back there or his note it all down to the you'll get 3 or 4 citations, or do you mean those logs there in the forest, yes, and then, and then the other god, you're probably the best time to buy land for soy. plantation o'clock sticking near the highway land cost close housing, rice, but 2 and a half picked is still cattle farms with postulates, but you can easily turn it into plantations. my little brother up is a border community to box on the top you got the view to buy and medical
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records from one another building loading terminal roy there. so they should be in exactly the 1st stop in the port of sometime in my car. so it gets shipped to asia and europe by my office. i'm also that the muslims are, you know, some of those days them. this is part of the possible days of the next 10 years will be decisive for the amazon region. our plan, our agenda as 3 phases, 5, you know, the 1st phase is ensuring no more rain far to last to think out. we must protect the remaining rain forest with mother mit and reduced the pay $50.00 for a station in the next 10 years. ideally to 0 on that, but in the 2nd phase, we need to establish the foundations for success and improve economic and social
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condition ice by the french. the initial goals will take 10 years, but the 3rd phase even longer. this is what we want. the amazon read shin to serve as a yard state for the rest of brazil's i air, which in a sense is already a benchmark. but the rest of the world is in the world that will entail finding solutions to economic and social issues. academia a project that will easily take 20 years. as my cell i filled out, we 1st have to solve the problem of deforestation because that's a cancer that threatens everything. that will also do the best. um, i'll be on the right path homes, but i cameras or can we solve the problem if any is here. we want the amazon region to be an example of sustainable development where social economic and environmental aspects are all given equal weight that that will take long term investment wise hope it will take around 20 years to see a full return on that investment. so as in, we'll need about 5 years to reduce or stop deforestation as algebra that and that will be followed by
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a period of consolidation which will lay the groundwork. the new initiatives is going for the whole summer, the things i'm a sort of, i assume the spot also moves on was in the next few years, will invest between 25 to 40000000000 euros into the amazon region. the hydro power plants, new roads, power lines and mining projects. it's an unprecedented investment in this region mental no, thank parallel and i started amazon. i shall gather this as good as visuals by the present time on the out. if those investments don't address local conditions or social and environmental factors, they could back fire or it could cause land prices to skyrocket. oil, which would attract more land grabbers and lead to more clear cutting of poplar grain forest is mac. i'm intimate, as well as the food i want that you think we want to draw the boundaries ourselves for over 20 years. we
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been fighting for the demarcation of our lack of inc and anthropological study was carried out. so that the phone i, the brazilian and sees founded to protect indigenous culture and people could register the boundary either by moist this l a report is still in the possession of the poor, ny president, the but it is the to the from i was ms. uprise and she for you as xena. so a few months ago and we went to brazil yet to find the get it signed off by the phone i. we presented the report and 2013 and it still hasn't been signed today. autumn, christina? i mean, i have the report, it's on my desk. we discussed it. but in our final consultations, a series of unanswered questions relating to this region and came up with, you know, i just with that man,
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we needed to consult some other people. i, you know, there's a draft project for a hydro power plant. i knew that it would include the down to produce power. i me, it is. dam is very close to your area. yeah. and that's why we haven't signed anything yet. please do. you know, we're not taking anyone else's property, we're just defending. what's ours. i'm going to say i have a responsibility to you. you're totally in the right. but i believe and want to because if i stopped believing, i wouldn't be sitting here as a representative of who now you have to defend our interests law. it's our job to represent your interest. i think. but parts of the government prioritize the
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construction of hydro power plant organ for they wanna wind power that produces energy to a damn, destroys everything. then what's left mining with that this raj yet the thought v in the pull. not a lot. there are so many projects for our region to cooper and that really worries us, boy, yet you're more little cool. people don't want to lose the rain forest, the fish or the trees. yes, as i like government needs to know we won't just give in. i say fuss moving people to so but they don't get the last was think in my view building more hydro power plants like the ones we already have in the amazon beach in new me is not the right approach. cit, hydro power plants, let big mining project or not the solution had i thought a no that ah, no, i do the deck. yes. a secret and of course these hydro power plants are an important source of energy for the countries developments. what is that to monitor?
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wanted any dam in the amazon region brings with it a lot of changes when it affects habitats, both in the water and on land areas. we need their fate that made no secret. rochelle was, and it affects the relationship between water and people. the bond, our people have to the water yalu laws offering. there was a good us, pamela lackey. the reservoirs in the southeast, a tortoise, a painful lesson or no sea devil. as we look ahead to developing the amazon region, we need to take the needs of local people into account such as fast as well as the energy needs of the rest of the country. amazon. yeah, we can't focus on protecting a specific section of riverside. we have to make sure the river as a whole, as preserved you might receive. that's the only way we can insure a sustainable process of development for future generations. and the amazon
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regional montessori i even though in process with, with you get wanted when g called up, it looks a dynamic as inch. quite astonishing. 40 years into these make projects and we haven't changed our approach. typically they leave us with intractable problems. and yet we used to worry an outsider, we come and steal our wealthy location to day. some monster comes and turns our lives upside down. isn't all that i so then walter that he's argued that you lost his job wookey gave proof glancing l. no middle the reservoir daughters, it's alarming how many dams are planned for the amazon region, almost there in 92 dams in the pipeline to war. that's huge, right? and it will have an impact on the wine to amazon. reach out those amazon or leaders are rebelling. the 1st priority is drawing the boundaries.
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how did it my best uncle visited after the meeting? we decided to draw our own territorial boundaries after informing the food. i president politely thought that if in the food i supposed to represent indigenous peoples is not the government most basic, but we had the sense they were under a lot of pressure on. so we decided to take action law. nice museum out there. my phone is more stuff we're showing the government that it i tuba is home to the culture of the moon, to roku people who are in apple. i'm guessing 9000 was the phone i didn't want to sign up. so we decided to take things into our own hands equally. see me so that the white people know where our territory is. mythology, through use phase. we got help from alta toppa josh, jackie fuzzy. he is south of the mecca from june. ah
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ah ah ah, ah, so somebody if the government signs the report that they're recognizing the claim of indigenous people to the land in our territory and we're drawing the boundaries in the lawful way, let gown ah ah, forget not altogether when the invaders came to brazil they used to shoot the indigenous people for today, the government is trying to use the mega projects to destroy the indigenous people . the people of the rivers, the members of the ketone bola community who aren't respected either dove april brown's yet to care. come, i come here, these projects of destroying the river, which we depend on. but as yet projects others drawing the rain for in the blood
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without the rain forest and the river, we would no longer exist on someone. our people would die out and also not sony ah. okay. so if i get key, there's only this piece of the rain forest left. i lose my data on the other side, the loggers are destroying everything so, but that's why we have to take care of this here with this bed. i think product marketing. ah, did i get a little bit of a saw mill is motto, crusoe. every day i started working with rude as a boy there and i thought i lost a finger working as a carpenter, but i stuck with me. no, i do think it. do they come at l?
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this is carol wood. gotcha. yeah, we use it to make bores for the construction industry, microsoft of you yet. this word is the most popular and real home is called muscle and dooper f. l f. again, my fat luba. if america what if anything void with its yadi? again, what got you and this is youtube. ha. and we got the robot and who is it? at the bottom, what i got jan. i sent you medical passport, a film, my billing lab, des moines. secure when it wasn't just your buzz. a very good word to the marble a semester on. do those good to you, but it's only use for construction. roof girders, planks, things like that. yes, i guess this is a pay. it's one of the most expensive kinds of timber. you know, my scott, this is a bit warped and full of holes. there's not much left of your kids, but it's one of the most expensive was we have here in puerto. i found on my the my scouting not thinking, but i think he is how come i would say it might if i just put us on to me, this is kumato know that it's also exporting,
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it's the 2nd most expensive food f l e p. where does this come from? this comes from the san antonio plantation, which we want to show you some clinical this would. here for monday, the this timber is that was from the audio far ludlow. the viet are timber from 4 companies. i had the key math here comes from the all to bring lou plantation the brought all the bill to buy. you silly. where's that bear sent you the baggage? take the highway from each i tuba for 18 kilometers long. i yet turn off the thin and head straight down the route to live without weather is about 40 kilometers yet is about 28 to the other plantation. he tried to plant there. not far. i have, like i said, the launch of this timber was delivered yesterday about a invoice hasn't been booked yet on the left, on my desk. okay. the shuttle bow who'd this is, might i could she already had it? the other one is got a piano. i got a better, that's got a piano to the us has yet to bond. so as that again, we only deal in quality timber thing, but simply mcgee and you have documents in case you're inspected. no,
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they're not out of san lots. of course, you know, i have invoices receipt z. assume it all by the book. no one would buy timber for me if i sent it to be lem without an invoice lender. my data, i only get paid when there's an invoice. shrink where the timber came from. the money that you need proof of everything is origin, the company name, or they won't take it to the audio old east on my, the it lou project golf. i you? good. you know they're gonna they can the father. this is from the sand to antonio plantation. launch it arrived yesterday. i got for you. it list the origin and variety of would that make you they how ari m. timble donna? yup. obama. papa. you and chateau. bye. you're good. and here's the total volume, digitally and wendy. 3500. 29 cubic meters of timber you thought? ah
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oh my dear that needed a gal in my body. they got it illegal gym or is traded like it's legal. it's funny . the fraud is in the fake documents and we've got countless examples. what is the state of part our is a major timber importer? does that mean? what is important there? no, what's important or the documents that legalize the illegal felling of trees, there might be a, a nickel acting is not god broken edge. think jesus in america, i'm not yet a book at no up and you get all the speak documents because there's no forestry management, a new private winner ship in the region. while it's all illegal, it's hard to keep things above board when there's no legal framework for our control center to support those who act legally blame, but they don't exist here. i'm gonna call them if you build a rude with a conservation area on the right. indigenous territory on the left and leave the rest unclaimed. yeah, the land grabbers are always the 1st. they all go back. i shouldn't been
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a shipping. mm. all. okay buddy. oh, hey, how big is f as in the q as well? you know, 800 square kilometers. okay. and the price, well, are now $20000000.00. 20000000. okay. i'll get on it. thanks. bye. okay. bye. now on angie's, you said his message bank. the amazon region is still at risk. that the problem is as acute as ever. then for example, the ministry still does it know what land clearing payments have been issued in each federal state. and loss of our goal is not the legalization, but the prevention of deforestation without the law must be obeyed. but ma'am, currently there is no way to distinguish between illegal land owners and lawful
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ones misuse e, but we need to fix that. we need to know what's legal and what isn't. she didn't marino but book mr. coleman. thank you, sandra. last look. mm ah g fallen up was funny. as i already said, to my family, the government representatives will never understand what's happening with the climate right now. mm. not people get, you know, why not? because they work in air conditioned offices they block will get into their air conditioned cars and drive back to their air condition homes. as far as they're concerned, nothing's happening with this. it was interesting wasn't what about an old a? the indigenous people must make their voices had a and we should be quiet and listen to them gauge. so wish they're not the owners of brazil. they possess nothing that it is sold,
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but they are the guardian said this languish, they lived with this land, fish bas wishkey age. so they are one with the amazon region, a saw with a rain forest alma with the earth on which they live. it will just how it doesn't belong to them, but they are one with it. it is. they are one entity down a dish. it looks all that there. mm. yeah. and we must learn from them. we live all . no, sir, but it doesn't belong to us in the earth can exist perfectly without us. why does she? but we cannot exist without piano, but him this isn't there. mm you promise? when we see the river as our legacy, it wasn't created without a reason. the top of your shot was created by the god kado cycle from the seats of the to come up, roots out of the cable. mm. i was
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like, i'm glad only here. let's go to, can you please send us a cable was a warrior. whatever he wanted to create, he created e turn to some of the moon, the roku, into pigs, and others into fish lookout with a cable and the area where the pigs crossed through. i want your book as what we are d marketing now. nissan. yes, fuzzy. las up with amazon again, we bought a little share. the amazon region is often regarded by brazilian is on the coast as a bit of a remote back water buffalo. but in truth, this is one of south america's oldest cradles of civilization. so he'll be also bought by amazon region as the birthplace of many indigenous peoples who populated the continent. he mantle g, garage even slash air. it's the sight of huge technological and cultural innovation
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. this information doesn't go slash go boil medical temp. why such as ceramics and farming liberal daughter which were emerging at roughly that time in the old while yankee foyer air larger congestion lost many of us. imagine the amazon region as empty of people rush, it was you mama, this emptiness was 1st caused by the european immigrants here. the white people, amazon or a young or before that it was a well populated region, flourish the muzzle any camouflage that the rain forest developed in harmony with the people that inhabited it key a beetle. and it got many fruits implants that are so well known to day blunt dish can dish runner follow the brazil not the baba to bomb the back re the cap. oh, so the ph palm, some blood sugar, cultivated by indigenous people shall neither foot away. she's evil v a thrive here because the amazon's indigenous residence was, had that agricultural know how i'm gonna lose his amazon
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a seizure. a large part of the rang forest was shaped by human hands fruit to bear . but his insulin, in contrast to the white people whose ancestors emigrated to the americas with this 500 years ago, king by gina, presence of indigenous peoples, helped sustain the life of the rain forest look which to liam, and not destroy it, like we're doing to day no storm fidela the only amazon you and one of those you visit. the amazon region is a product of the co existence of millions of species, of which we are only once english was almost m of one m l flu. you'd probably, milliner humans have existed for millennia here alongside many other different forms of light here. so. so in theory settled into dependent and in balance with symbols. i don't know if the rain forest as the lung of the world, but it's certainly the heart of brazil, a wonderful little savage. don't put us on the missouri. ah.
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if you keep a river becomes my body. okay. you get a, why do i say this river is my body? it's the body of every human being. the water of these rivers course is through our veins was my, the lawyers are destroying its source. i got up so the entire river will gradually die out. the 1st of the tributaries dry out was got up, but they'll still feed the top of your shall it in a 100 years like you, we might have to fight for this water. no lumber. yup. the lad. mm. oh, i don't know. what's the best approach? i got the 1st fire, then the 2nd, then the cattle can come about a pack, the soil down. so you rotate the patches, wait a bit to modify a base which fires gets you a good pasture. he moves from you burned all the branches and the heavy logs are
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gone. used to build a cow sheds, and frances allowed them to all right. you had cost $15000.00 rice to build a fence. you don't have to buy, would you just pay the workers and buy the material? you're going to get a nice piece of land on the cheap, my boss and my motto, grocer, cattle rancher, a switch to soybeans and once land for a cattle in. but i can't get develop land for a 1000000 anymore, so that'll fit you back 10 or 12000000 day. so what about leasing with someone who wants a 10 year lease for 4 years of cattle timing? 6 years of soy, the boy saw ah
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