climate change a message that she regards as especially important for the eco, for 60 minutes on d. w. what secrets? why behind the walls, discover new adventures in 360 degree and explore the fascinating world heritage site. b. w world heritage 360. now. hello and welcome to another edition of the program made for you. the 77 percent africa as youth majority. i'm your host edie, mike, a junior from egypt to sedan on lights area. major youth lead protest having seen across africa. but more often

than not, these protests and in bloodshed and loss of lives in my area, people are still trying to get the voices head out that a 2020, and sas protests by far the lead us listening either kamani went to lagos, to talk to victims on authorities to find out why the and sauce them on stations turned ugly. and what can be done to prevent the killings from happening again. this week on the 77 percent street debate, all shot on my church, the blood tears come out from the back. the, the process, we are close hijacked by some hoodlums from criminals. 40 i just to protect the protests was attacked. so who attacked these protest? the purchase was at sacked using governments owned properties, governments own assess ah, hello,

and welcome back to the 77 percent. this week we are in nigeria. more specifically, lagos, the city that gave us fell aqua t, who, by the way, in 1977 in his title track for the album, them give us them leave tears, sorrow, and blood explained how the police officers were up a time. brutalizing, the citizens of nigeria fast forward to 2020 and his words still resonated as young people gathered to protest what they said was ill treatment by the police officers until we're here to find out why to african government seems so threatened by protest held by the youth who better to answer this question for me than fellow nigerian. and i'm going to start out with buy um and so i just want you to give us an overview of what happened in 2020 because not everybody has a clear idea. so i basically began with a lot of discontent and unhappiness and rage against the specialized robbery squad of the measuring police. it's. it's been a long time coming. so there was

a lot of built pinto presentment and youth just felt like you know what enough is enough. our forces are not hurt. our voices are not to can seriously. and like, that's all as if they were coordinated. protests were happening in major cities in the southern parts of the country, especially. okay, let's hear from suffer because i understand you are the protest as well. and obviously we wouldn't be talking about these protest if they hadn't ended in unfortunately death. so how did it come to be that something that started organically and at, in bloodshed? i think one of the selling points i'll call it out of the answers. protest was that there was no coordinated leadership right at the the protest where organic and people just appointed themselves to, you know, coordinate, collect and distribute resources. there was a lot of heavy politicize and like in the f city where some of the boys who

disrupted the protest, testified that they were given 5 and an error or so you could easily by st. power. yeah. by any one. okay. let me hear from matthew aka precious stone. oh, who was not only at the protest, but unfortunately actually ended up being shot. so perhaps that by telling us what took you to the protest, why did you feel that it was so important for your voice to be heard that day? many times files are stored me on it. why do you do your ladies as i am? no, i am no you. oh boy, god oblivion and you know where you live fi or where you to enjoy your bod board or your boss? come no. one of them always always should. emma undiagnosed is less read me to give them money. but when a hardy, to that people, when you told me julia will godaddy, les topped his socks to clean or venture to solve this country. so i need to johnny porter. yes. fully. can you explain to me how you felt when you got there? what was the energy like,

how did you feel in the early hours jack missouri was so lovely, but i never believed. hadn't enjoyed. i use goof. cool. sure. so peacefully. yeah. get flagged in july flag atlas, russia dizzy. what we to, to coma to see, to speak, or what is no good about our country. what are near shore? alright. piece for lovely energy was right. ok, let me come to an officer who dagon here because obviously the police officers actually what the receiving end doing is protest. being accused of not just brutalizing people and harassing them. it's true. would you say in your estimation? yes, actually we have sustain reports of police officers been excessive in their use of force. but to it didn't mean that the entire police force was, was brutal or was insensitive to the plight of the youth. and these were things we're looking through. we have a department on the follow up,

looks into these complaints, but i guess people have had enough all the fels were not moving fast enough. okay. um, i want to hear from allow me day because i see that your hairstyle is dreadlocks, which i understand in this country can be a way for people to be targeted. have you experience some of the things that p 2 p peter was saying? yes, because obviously aroused by southwest which as lot of time to try to that because we know to happen. emilia cloud o. c o p co, bye for now we do you into the you all are record you to an out of the south and ask you this is the from to not far does god mean to join? because i don't know did go go outside that, i'll get shots because most of it i go up are, you are was up at the us with us. i see. does reduced. does the harassment doesn't actually. okay. does it out of it as a game? you plus my for the, for the buddhist canal, so long the pulls us are asked me to pull up my s 5 vote to put as when, if i go out, i'm given a cushion out the candy limit that we deliver to sergeant that our catalog. i'll

get them out that do not the right to such my full mouth. gladly get my food gum, the young boy 1st go luke internet for stuff. you don't want to do what you're doing. foster for future outsourcing units after you stop out of him to join the buddhist. okay. now i should mention 2 of you was that of course saws as a squad was later disbanded. although young people here see that it was quickly replaced with a force that was very similar to that a but coming back to you of a 70 and j j. know your, he, i'm going to come back to you. i had reports while preparing for this. the people would even have their telephones checked to have police officers look through their bank account balance and have and force them to to withdraw money is, is true. yeah. i mean how, how, how does it get to that point? okay. yeah it's, it's very wrong for any police officer to check in with his foreign bank account and we, we appreciate those people who just don't complain and just maybe make maybe or hands on twitter,

pardon my language around on twitter. but people actually step to say, oh, this police of says, did this, we actually want to gets such reports and when we get them, we are bringing this officers and make them face on disciplinary action. what is actually wrong? and if i must say this, i'm not saying i'm not trying to defend this bad behavior. it's not a defense. but, you know, statistically you see that most times certain crimes are committed by satin is group and the often not always, but they often have this look, this tattoo and these. i mean yeah, yeah, that's profiling profiling. yes. but for a police officer, what are we saying? nobody in nigeria should wear dreadlocks. like i said, from the beginning of this, these not a defense. but as a police officer, i remember the last 10 people that's confessed to this particular crime, actually have 13 in physical character is maybe not physical,

but in this is you would not. you would not blame me if i see somebody which doesn't. this is on the 1st there comes, my mind is or the less than people are is that okay, let me come to gigi because he's laughing at your comment. i'm not sure if it's because he thinks it's funny. i share your thoughts j. j. so i was laughing because he was fits in perfectly into the bureau spectrum of buyer, sir. and he was literally admitted by us as a police officer. no 4th of he says he's human. but so the next level as a lease officer and as a, as an institution is to 1st of all admitted by us that they are by us to was great for people like ally media and between them up and doing all of those things. and also to understand the collect the responsibility of everyone. okay. are we there means that if i move in or, and i should carry, i should have my id card to make it easier to identify myself with our mickey. easier for the officer, sue, duty or job, and as long as every young mangian does not feel safe, no,

because of hon. so because of their own police, when they go out at night, when the address is setting way, then we've not done enough people considered secure, brutalized receipt every day on social media, we will continue to get bullied people continue to take into the atm to, to get to redraw money, doesn't need to change, but what's also as changes that he got me now knows that even though the super i know out on the street, they can go on the street when necessary. okay, voice, let me come back to suffer here because yes, that the government knows that now young people can mobilize the can organize themselves. but they've also come up with innovative ways to suppress that democratic space. i mean are we moving one step forward to steps back. gov. mens can do everything possible to maintain its power like the twitter bun, for example. but i think that one of the major gains of a purchase in generally and sauce in particular is the effect. it has on the people, the people know that they can talk, the people know that he can demand,

and the government knows that the people can demand, protest is a signal, is an indication of a dysfunctional system. and oh, once people start to protest to the government knows that we're doing something wrong and a citizen has has noticed it, and the citizen is complaining. what happens next? okay. um you said that things could be moving in the right direction because the government knows that people can't talk. but pity i want to hear from you because i know you might be of a different opinion. you are telling me earlier that you feel fearful, you know, despite the fact that the government admitted its fault and said, we should have shot you and you were given compensation, you still don't feel safe for her. you does no compensation, notting since they wanted to partner our one every to you doesn't look not upon martinez. i'm telling you. yeah. so you vi, anybody that you send either giving anybody composition notting us up on our shot

on my church, the blood tears come out from the back yet. so i know cannot beg things that you know, as typical in the political health structure on my southern trip to i need to go for scar, voided because his dead new job anymore on the tango for what judges ready? talking about id got id gotten injured. i need to be frank is useless. hello. usually because many ties go out, which i did god. when there are a lot when you bring it out to just quality unclear to. i'm this kid who, what are you scared of? i'm scared of my life because they adjusted angry god meant as the angry polish estie angry because we can't come out challenged them. the court of law was shorter with this good. so the picture, the book, it was so crazy. i says, and nobody as urban tongue, what was somebody like it, sir? i blame the cause, said i brave, i don't know the nym gonna give up a do goober. i get our kudos. i don't know if i can using the language in which or

so normally. yeah. judge college been a lady so vibrant, so clearly. so kind right. so by the way i should mention, oh, there she is. we were just talking about you sarah, has just joined us as a lady that matthew was speaking so generously about. she unfortunately was late because of lagos traffic, but we understand unwelcome. so we were just recapping what happened during the protest and i sort of as to what you know, in the long term and in the short term, what was achieved we heard from matthew is that he still feels fearful, unfortunately. but he is bolstered because of people like you. so what would you say keeps you so brave and encouraging people like matthew the use of langoria, our favorite to extremely brief. so the thing is the protest happen year. but uh, we actually got in what we needed. we've gotten some parts of it, but we still need more. and we are able and we are proud of. we're able to get

about 200 families. we're able to get them justice and they can just do the, i mean, we're the people who are behind those shootings arrested. for example, if you want to start seeing that she needs people to get arrested. it has to be a different ball game. we're in a country whereby yeah, allah, judy shall, system is not respected. it is not respected by politicians. it is no respected by those who actually made a judicial system to stand the panels that were actually set up. i've already said these people need to face, do attend up. so office i want to come back to you because p t said very passionately that police officers are still angry because the youth dead to challenge the authority, they dare to stand up against you. or is this how you're feeling? honestly. i don't. i grew with him, that's police officers are angry because of answers. we knew that the youth that started the zone protest when at rollins, where college got so it will be the process where our term hijacked by some

hoodlums from criminal or i think you should use the right, i think. okay, the right word of the protest. whenever a jack, nobody i jacks the protests, the protests was attacked. so who attacked these brutus? the protest was attacked using government's own properties, government's own assets, governments the own vacant. so if you want to start asking questions they want, so are you suggesting, sarah, that the people, the young hoodlums, as the officer has called them here, who infiltrated the protest was sent by the government? this is a very serious claim. i am not suggesting to him saying you're saying it on the day on the 9th of the lackey massacre, we were able to get about 21. people with the same shapes of i mean the same shipped of cut last like this much, etc. the same, they had the same tags and so it was like they were giving to them. so we got about 20 to one of these people in like you face one. we took them, i was the, i took them, i still have ice. i mean,

most did all the videos were played at the panel. that was actually what made it panel to which their decision. we took this people to the police and guess what? we're told that they are not their problem. all right, let's come back to the office a. i think it's important that you able to respond and we'll look at the answers protest. but everybody turns a blind eye to the fact that many police sessions we are tucked. many positions were bondsville. i don't know if you, if you are way back, many police officers were killed. many police officers, we'd be had the list and the many amenities of those where, where are rusted on between these are facts and many rifles were cut to the way and we lost v cruz, human resources, my for resources. so was, and i will tell you that when this process started and we checked what they were fighting for men of us were happy because our welfare was part of it so, so, so somewhat behind the scene where given them this not like, go ahead,

we're going to benefit from okay, so how did it come to be that then people who are armed by the government are opening fire on their own citizens who are and i am going to ask you if, if that statement is a statement or fox, will you tell me who else has fire arms in this country? who will police were o l. b every day? yesterday the voice there will cover firms from hoodlums. ok, so the police is this a bit loud in our aides. let. let's see away from there for a 2nd. i want to come back to you by because earlier sephora had something important that protest or a symptom of a dysfunctional society. and i'm curious if you know, because we've understood that stars was just sort of the, the, the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. but the underlying issues of poverty, of unemployment are still there. so what happens now? structural issues will remain the poverty be, are unemployment, inflation,

exchange rates and balances are insecurity. and these have to be seen within the backdrop of be authoritarian nature of nigerian culture. really, can you explain that? so often times young people are told to keep whites, you know what you know, why should you talk when elders talking and i mean other people much more intelligent than me have said nigeria has the characteristics of roger on talk or see where leadership is kept within the hands of old men. so these are people who are making decisions for the country, for young people that we have no idea about. i want to hear from allow me to hear why keep electing these old men who don't have any care for you? why elect them the i've read the system, the of the, of the plotter structure was what the rules time out. he's going to be different game. those i will sit on the balcony door to door diagnosed isn't as good as was

nice. garage is my son who said, is my base right out to get this time? i will go look, we shouldn't, i'm missing the wrong to negotiate. okay, j j, let's, let's, let's hear from me is good to hope that. i mean, hope is, is free, is good to hope that is going to be a different game. there were electrons immediately after and sauce. and the thought i was on of louis irvine, the history of the country. does that surprise you though? it doesn't, it doesn't. and we have to say things the way they are right now. there is nothing to say daddy voting dynamics of nigeria in terms of water, not in other because we put our vote on or the opportunity of woodson would change with the lessons that are coming in less than a year. yeah. all right, so i guess now i have a critical question which is why protest in the 1st place because they'll always be problems and they'll always be dysfunction in governments. so i take the risk, especially if it leads to loss of life. so if i'd like to hear from you 1st for the common man or on the street, what do you expect them to do? yeah, too much to us rock or to do what that is the way that they know how to register

their displeasure and it's legitimate in the sense that every citizen has a right to expression. so i think protest are effective in their own way. yeah. and we have seen them be very, very effective in other parts of africa, from egypt to my very own country of kenya. and i'm wondering from you a p t. would you ever participate in a protest again, given what happened to you again and again and again again and again, noted moody, i would no doubt by dar to work on doing. sincerely speaking. we know that the, our web, our comments are crazy. so we still need to be crazy, so we need to be good bye brenda, to look also do the necessities being good. now, a butare scar rule to order. these is no by shouting is not by okay, look at it. yeah, look at it, you philippines. but glory, beach, god, we assist, or we move right? porch car. we got just his draw ward knew the true to. so i yeah, yeah,

sure. i think this is one of the games here. protests activism. right? it could be that before the protest, he was chilling, doing his thing, but participating in the protests, it bets a spirit of accountability. you start to a lot of the activists that we have now where best want to purchase the ground. they cannot be too much, right? they hold the government to account the money or the reports governance processes. so i think that is one of the major gains of a protest, the birthing of an activism or activist conscious spirit, young and citizen. okay. and now earlier we spoke about responsibility and i want to come back to you of his own day in because looking to the future in the example that i gave of egypt. and i'm thinking about it as to done a south africa's in bob way. so often these protest also end up in bloodshed. what

can we do so that the next time young nigerians, which will never to be happy, which will inevitably happen, come together to protest something. they're not met by bullets. well, um and says was a learning process for everyone for the use for this occurs agencies and particularly police. so they will protest this to happen again on most often we, we tell people that if you want to protest, please inform the security agencies. if we know you're going to protest, we have to put on certain measures in place, make sure it's not. i checked glass on, i said i checked everything else. i can look it up. okay, so that was a good my years in place to make sure that there is no at sack and going forward. like you said, inevitably, processes going to happen again. but we hope we have links. we hope that it will become floating next time. okay, sarah, i want to hear from you solutions going forward because like i said, inevitable protests will happen here. every single person in danger, once a better nature,

people are always to going to protest is one thing about being government is wanting about being in the country is how are you going to you don't, you don't treat people like their animal. so the government needs to learn how to talk to the citizens because citizens are the part the government needs to understand that you need to constantly talk to these people. you need to consulting, talk to people so that you can know what their grievances are and how to meet them in the me to okay. ah, i'd like to hear from you allow me day in the future. what do you think young people need to do to make the conversation easier between government and yourselves? police officers and yourselves. do do what migalia youths fossil try to get into power when it's going to be the $70000.00 to be in the algebra with in the us it dr . wood also discussing what else will play for future relevancy don't back out. and those be jobs be shouted around to noon or line and also put as we need to get involved in politics in nigeria. here in northeast north, we cannot control ladies. okay. j j started by quoting fellow karate the great

master of music. and the things that he was singing about in his album of 1977, a still very much resonating today. how do we stop that cycle? first of all, is the soda request for a better society? that is a never ending one. and that's not unique to nigeria, it's universal. democracies like the americas, as old as to 50 years old on over the continue to battle for these freedoms. so it's not a question of how do we talk to him? it's a question of how do we make lives better every year under, for government to understand are your people under your enemies when they go out there to classes because they're asking for better of you. yeah. which essentially actually helps you because you swore to uphold the constitution. why we started, we q less conclude with you. what do you see for the future of this country, posts and saws? brutus, i think understanding that we form as youth a critical mass that can really move the needle forward, is something that we need to take very seriously. i mean, we formed like 60 percent of bacteria, the best we could do is get our pvcs. and you know, again, referencing,

what did you said about the difficulty in seeing change? there's a direct relationship between how much change you want to see and how much effort and work you're willing to put in. the more work you put in, the better change you will see. all right, well, that's a fantastic place to wrap up this debate. the sun is going down. it's so beautiful here. and ashley feel really good in my heart, which so rarely happens at the end of debates. but that's because the young people here i asked, i'll protest, threatening to governments perhaps. but what i've had to day resoundingly is that the youth, they know got tire. thank you for watching. ah, thanks edith and all you participants. that it was a very informative discussion. we have to continue protecting our democratic rights and a bullet from authorities should not be the answer. thanks a lot for your time. i am eddie micah junior. bye for now.

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