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oh oh oh oh, take out that, what's the best approach for? i got the 1st fire. yes. then the 2nd about them, the cattle can come when i got my hand about jason i. they packed the soil down. so you rotate the pastures. wait a bit, no said 2 more fires to get up. please hold your re fi as gets you a good posture. he moves for you, burned all the branches and the heavy logs are gone. used to build cow sheds and fences. i lived in $1.00. you had cost just $15000.00 rice to build a fence. you don't have to buy would just pay the workers and buy the material. the program. wonder all the time you get a nice piece of land on the cheap, my boss, and for a while job that he's recorded,

telephone conversations illustrate the forces at work and me, amazon, and how the land grabbers sidestepped the environmental agencies all and legalize their ownership. obama, these land grabbers assume that whatever current rules are that will change which gassed tagged the fines for illegal activities prior to 2008 have been formerly wave to them. so they assume fines through 2014 will be waived to live omit when they say they're just clearing the forest in the name of progress. that's their argument and it's no secret. nay. no, i think it in, oh, what are you supposed to do if you can't log legally? it's your property and you need to survive. i regret having acted outside the law, but i don't regret felling trees because nothing wrong with that. or if we did clear forests, brazil wouldn't take the dog boys like roll and grubbers. no one here isn't one because we're farming public land. i have no authority to tell me

this is your land. i've been occupying a piece of land for 30 years. they think that my farm would have been trying to register it for 20 years with no success. so that makes me a land corroborated any public prosecutor which the i'm occupying public property, committed to environmental impact is a big problem. environmental laws are being violated and they're doing everything to keep it that way. the environmental agency, he bama wants to keep operating illegally so they can keep finding us freezing our operations. it gives them something to do. i will say a bunch of these don't have to documents here from the environmental agency, 6000000 and 1200000 aware of it. ok to lee another. i'm coming to it i to about on wednesday,

we have 20 days on appeal. your lawyer has to do it the case and it's true, but it's about slave labor and i'll take care of it in getting in on the way to pick up a tractor we'd had stopped and impounded earlier to perpetrate anew. we were coming and hid in the forest. the officer noticed and pursued him. the suspect was armed and shot and killed the policeman with a hunting rifle. in . ah

martha longing costs money if you need a lot of it to clear areas of around $10000.00 hector's like here in nova progresso above it. take serious logistics the hundreds of workers and tractors and that comes at a price and these people have the money. i bought on this thing with 20 cents on the divide. i since the public prosecutor can't charge people for clearing the forest, they get accused of forming gangs or fraud things. no one can actually prove it. wow, hold gangs. intervals. x is about logging, but they charge us with something else, something like that with the public prosecutor does whatever they please. i'm a political side of the hood here. my office is one of the biggest seller of land

and property. you are, every one knows that why are there problems to that? because you try to handle it all yourself. you like, we're the only ones doing this job. in the end, everyone will benefit that. i know and wants to get their hands dirty. go to a broker and see if he's got anything they want. that's what i said. hey, some land with proper papers, cash in hand. can he give me that? he goes back. i think it's all there was the monthly gums at basil. it's on. we've received reports that several people with logging companies were active there. yes, we investigated those gangs and their criminal activity lesson thought that included money laundering forgery and tax evasion. and it's only 2 environmental destruction in michigan. the environmental aspect isn't the only element with a plot of land, and the amazon is much cheaper than in the south or southeast of the country. so people get greedy, local people, buy land and having

a company gives them an appearance of legitimacy that you're talking about the documents. are there any higher? yeah, there's no way, not usually, only the new companies have contracts with the older ones. they have reports from the agricultural authority that did a legal program and other kinds of documents, like the environmental data register, which has the cadel farming sermons, is where a wildfire best, lizzie, agricultural permit is boy and the environmental permanent. but it depends on the agencies, if anything are, and afterwards you can apply for a property title, and then you just have to wait a bit for it to be issued me with

the minimum may until i get a larger project. therefore, to say it's 30 going locally, is a grungy, the fast age of a line graph can take place from a distance. he has some on the sense that sites on a big plot of land in the state and rain forest. this is all decides to occupy, but the rest has to be done locally, not but as, as a physical that eliza l gala fall into. someone has to hire workers and do the logging ally. and the area has to be guarded policy. i it, it can unfold in stages, top of the land has to be demarcated, it's, and then it has to be defended. cause a says all to be limited. i mean, sometimes the same plot of land will be claimed by various legal possibilities can lead to violence. does it, but as you know, gain gay. at 1st glance, the land may seem empty locally the uh, there's actually a local community near by. yeah. you can, that leads to conflict, auto,

body live or another land grabbing. might also be trying to claim the land that is keeping with it's no wonder that violence is rife in places where land is stoled out. but it, in the amazon violence lies the most concentrated where there's a lot of blogging coming, and there's a close link between land grabbing deforestation and violence. and the amazon you're lazy, the would also see ours. amazon didn't work. is he how he manage if the attack us, we strike back the same way. if i that they come with clubs, knives or dogs, we fight back with the same methods and throw them out. i no matter what size. so as i said, oh no. mm hm. fashion you did want to know that we've been fighting against land grabbing here for 18 years. it's resolved, the people living here were born and raised here, just like that great grandparents. seattle was met the problem with land grabbers yadi. they've taken over this whole area effort that don't you get like they came from queer bar through the yamashita national park about the other side,

but they were markings everywhere, logs lying everywhere. everything was occupied by land grabs at a dorm villarejo then the land crap isn't lawyers. don't care about anything or any widely in english feed in game. ah don't we'll do too much. is emma leah's online with us. you want to, we join forces with them under cool people to defend the top of your sack and help draw the boundaries are near my good thought a we share a common culture with them under roku, people you know, flooded the forest is our life blood issue we hunt fish and plant potatoes and yeah, don't think there's a difference between our traditional way of life, other than that of the mando roku. guillermo a batch in gym. i'm a little ah

was it was july's love is good morning fighters ahead of good morning. seen yours, you are as and team ill god, this is a very important moment for me when you want them to put a know we have to stick together. the human and joint forces to defend the unique mandible lambda. every one of us should pitch in on the video god. because if we don't fight thought up, we might lose it. i'm also there or can raise your hand if you want to come along and it's quite a bit error though, if i will ever them. ok, by tomorrow, i'll come here. it shows a bargain in my who else? francisco wealth, salma, lima, lamar, if you're in, come up with a for how many families live in this settlement. i you saw a handful of people. it's not enough. i can hear you back and so they get there. well, from the bottom you got people should feel an obligation towards the community that this land wasn't handed. i but it was conquered. and if we residents of the region

do nothing will end up losing it. they will go out no homework on my bed. any psyche as it is, don't know tina keep the visit was i suggested a few of you go door to door. she's been or sickle totally mad and rosa ne, doesn't she? and ask them for her. i was like, you pressure my for the school need, you know, like i had to put it, we can take the boat to her and ask them to help us gather it was gala, hey, grandmother, if i didn't lease and they won't have any excuses with west in your louis, i think he's in the house over there. ms. m. as in bob dodge. hello,

my friend is see if i'd like to explain to you what drawing the boundaries means asked and why it's so important that i know them. i think that it's important for us, for you to have your land secured in the future will you and just like us, i think you also have to fight for your land. they think that they're your thief. you got a vin of m plus you're not or got him beard. we're being pressured by gold diggers and land grabbers invading our region back yet. right. is if you end up being displaced by land grabbers or the government or poor things will get tricky. here is up about ticket if you don't like if not, sam. well, you're only here on weekends. we don't really know what's going on and escalate the rush. i should supporters of we need you merge them presses out. if you need us, then we'll help on. ah, my son would like we're here to help and support them. i because we need them and they need us. i mean, it doesn't matter whose land it is, because it's being threatened that yesterday we're going to lose our land and they

will lose their smiles on them. we live side by side. they focus a thank oh lou. oh no it's, it's my them of is good evening everyone. we want to talk about drawing the boundaries again with the other marker. so let's look at the map and see how to get the mountain stream mop on there. we'll start the marketing the boundary. i got that all one thing is yahoo got a bit more. i recognized that a mock awesome. thank there for like we have to go through the mountains and then follow the stream for about 2 kilometers. that's our starting point. well, if i miss the microphone about him when we were drawing borders with a sorry, mobile region, we encountered miners and lockers. paula: we told them we didn't want any conflict and we were just drawing the borders of them, my father and most of them it wanted to give y'all gave we run into any one and

talk to them. they won't respond. oh there why here? so i'm sure the people moving in on our land are aware of al operation. ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. different over the phone. i all city us. so i got this. yeah, i think we should follow the stream in this direction. then the path will go down on to the road, just that will take us to the mountains. then we go down the road and follow the river. we'll get to the boundary, this white line here. that's where we'll start with, [000:00:00;00] hey,

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no. i came by boat and went to the meeting. i did my 1st who didn't want to participate and i went back home and id and but then the visitors because it kind of changed our minds. i used photo nobody else wanted to take part. i. we thought to be cute if we didn't gain like you, they have to work next week. but after that lap will come by here. let's assume i'm nobody, nobody knows. one of the po, stone and the other jumping shoulders. i love a man of the boy mom before my thank you. here's the river. we're here and we'll work our way over here. that's point number 12. i thought them those i'm willing, didn't i got a lot more women are getting involved too, because the government isn't dealing with this. aggression. my years convinced that i have but i mean, if he danced, the women realised they have daughters soil,

and that's why they have to take part in the struggle faces. but they have to leave their children at home, gone. it's hard for women to take their children to protest as being as they, if they get attacked with pepper spray, for instance, they have to run away with their children in their arms. that makes it harder. of course, my son baron, but they're not giving up. they're fighting for the future of their children in there and grandchildren. nathan and every one who's yet to be born on us with my yes, my him stumbles actually ma'am. on the household. and this is our land, our home. yeah. and it's been destroyed. asia, we want a little cold. women are here with our leaders and our children's. and we want to tell the government that this is our home identify, keep our ancestors gave it to us, jackie, less land is sacred to us. they shall come on that last little,

but the government has destroyed every thing through you that we're here to resist . and to show that we're both wonderful cool, and women at the same time is so was maria gastorm bailey ah, in the biennium i only my mother is indigenous. not my father here, but i wanted to be a true member of an indigenous people because i'm proud of my ancestry. me thinking i think going to hold it for you to let them be. he'll get, i'll have children one day too, and i want them to live here and only without the land grab like la garza gold digger and ended up getting like we want them to leave again because they're also driving out the animal we hunt. monday's a bad life. he go home with about. yeah, that's all i want it. he saw you guys. i'm stuck in a traffic jam in,

sorry, so, and saw 16 pickups headed towards on that ink. and 2 bands that got unloaded. and you know, i heard there are 60 environment agency pick ups on the way to put up with those to stay here. 3, come with me. anything for changing frequencies on what happened with this one? yes. that of their frequency. they're already talking a lot in i edwardo you read me all the 38 you read me. i doubt you read me about. know you read me. who's there? oh boy that we about. 06 vehicles just drove into your street for roger that database. so simona 55 play about oh go yeah,

bear with me about what are you coming from on almost a farm cold. i don't know. it's my cousin far as a 4 or 5 kilometer itself, and i spent quite a lot a lot of your motorcycle here. we'll check that it's 4 kilometers. get in and show us the webinar. got it. ok. i because i just kept long. so evelyn da cafe it was almost money she'd be about $25000.00 areas are clear cut each year with most of these areas are on public land and linked to illegal activities. boyer, they usually involve land speculation, the formation of land, monopolies, and appropriation of public land. the logging operation is just the 1st step will

huge areas are illegally occupied him as an area of $30000.00 hector's belonging to just one person can yield tremendous profits while inflicting major damage on the rain forest when long and bit his. but what if i could just stay up with them for because i had kids let them this guy named cassini. i was fine several times for logging. i say that wasn't farmers over there in the front, at the cow shed. and there's another building farther down, pushes, so they don't have anything against you as an employee with these activities are legal

i show is where you work. leave your motorcycle here and get in. turn left here. hey. as mother was your motorcycles? yes. if we burn the with i got up, why much did you get paid off a new $3000.00 right for filling trees per month. yes, i did. but but an acre the camp is being dismantled by may of this land belongs to

indigenous people. no one's allowed to be here and we'll let you pack up and i did say, and then we're burning the rest and how about that? and we'll take care of the tractor about that, mike and why did he pembroke? well, let's get the tractor good. i thought okay, between a tractor is that very did any that bestbuy that was a big change. they knew they could get caught at any moment and they were listening in on us. there was a radio in the tractor against whether it is that's why they were leaving as i am not here to leaks and we had offered a lot and then you got caught yes. how much did you make? i don't know if i take me by nothing yet. we're still waiting to get paid out, but they still have to pay me. i'm supposed to get 1600 ratio. they. i'm going ivanhoe lane eaten. can't guy,

but keep up my number. they told me that they didn't burn more working illegally on indigenous land, got hit on legally purchase land. i think the workers take big risk. yes. or the earned morally to point to find out a new it's illegal. i did it, you know, chief of the bosses can be high wages because their profits are here. thank you. so we are on untouched on diginero, labradoodle, even the lumber here is extremely high quality. my did a single angelina tree, which is $10000.00 right. as that will always be people doing this kind of work, but they just post icbc in the local. yeah. we know it's illegal, not we country to. right. so if this is our livelihood, vicki in all this, no other work here with home. so michael, good. how are we supposed to survive if these jobs disappeared? because the environment ministry shots, everything down,

like many people will starve and you won't be able to sell your house so your land . everything will collapse. so we wouldn't fell trees if we didn't have to have without a high school diploma. you can't work anywhere anymore. you're out there. where should people like me work? who didn't go to high school, brought back at the said, that's how it is here. i thought by allan with honestly you integrate barbara that i was on the day that i mentioned, the 50000000 leaders. we note down their details and statement. we need that because we intend to prosecute their employer my the data who is operating a logging company. i do, of course, there tractors aren't permitted here. for instance, this is indigenous land, you know, mark and if you, this tractors and such poor condition, it can't be moved over. if you can't remove the tractors and they put a risk to the environment, because they continue to be used to legally, we are allowed to destroy thought. that's what we'll do. these are lean

a spot open today. this is lee. it's my can i get into my mistake here, they're able to bar with the environmental agency as frozen operations on my land. my entire property, or if anyone wants to buy 500 hector's of crosland, i sell it for 2000000 way should. now i put half of that into another piece of land next door or a good farther away and clear that. oh, then they freeze operations and that to what's the point? less than $500.00 hector's $1200.00. after the land anyway. bub elementary, it's a real industry land grabbing in areas of state and rain forest means the brazilian people are gradually being expropriated to nail it's um and then there's the clear cutting it, which land grab has used to solidify that illegal occupation. it's the worst thing

that can happen was if the public property is appropriated and the rain forest is cut down a and since it's all illegal that keeps away, honest investors. that's good for land grabbers and bad biscuit and bad for brazil . ah no more lily melanoma doesn't and is on the bus is safe for damages aren't enough asian we have found quickly and forcefully. it is, it's the only way we can protect the funding rights of the brazilian people at 8 and the and commensurate to the pines you by the end of a shoe is very complex. just want to go over again. i'm going to play devil's advocate, jazz. yeah, awesome. who?

oh, the coming generation will a sion of the rain forest never over. in other words, so as do you miss dinosaurs on earth to day? what about other sorry, joe. so dinosaurs, no numbers. no. it wasn't a match. it up to protect them back then from his us. no, he wasn't. imagine if we stood up to protect them back then, then they might still be around today who says the next generation would want no orders just bills all the way up there. i'll go. so i can just get yourself put a, give you a to know, so we owe money with a sob, wi fi the unsolved. would a sab of it, the indigenous peoples belong to the past it. but as aboriginal peoples belong to the past, with my dish or more, but in the end, they might be the ones to survive my song, or rather, their modest and respectful way of life that regards humans as a small part of

a larger ho. this lapse that way of life will be the only one to endure. but as yet before year it's conceivable that the survivors of the downfall of western civilization with its claims to universality, will be these people who put the federal babs, their culture is our future. not our past religion, they all goes this and i'm not. life always lives. we can learn so much from them and not the other way around, dissolves each bush was injecting from seducer. we believe we're civilizing them. dangerous. yet they ought to be civilizing us. of the dimension assisi ice, an ice and shadow sinshay in my eyes. the indigenous peoples are of critical importance to brazil's identity no hashed desa foreman did. there's one thing that sets asked resilience apart from those who are destroying our planet, donna, as opposed to being in that thing allows us to imagine

a different future for brazil ill foster care. and that is that there are people still living in our country. james, who live intelligently yeoman era, a gamble is just really tough. everyone out there looking at us, look at how exhausting leanne this is really strenuous, i think with nothing to. i'm eating sugar instead of crystal the flower. mm hm. and if they don't come, ah, yeah, that's again see going back, you know, going, if we agreed the mrs. here at the border, but they're not here like, you know home. i am never worried and want to head toward stuff know body. i got it

done with that. he's on like you, bob, get by going to die. it is like you, but i like what the like you belong to the phone today from point 10 at that 100 meters from here. it's another $385.00 made is to duty. so we're almost there by industry with his and got and she, well my wife seems not. i mean, by sea level, if we want to stop the deforestation of the amazon, we have to protect all the unused forest areas. but right now, as it was still accessible to land crap as well within the next 5 to 10 years, there's even a lot of there, mostly in the states of tata and amazon. amazon is in much of these areas the rain

forest could be presented is for instance in the form of nature is f o extractive reserves as a whole reserves for sustainable development to little key got into the well you, there's several categories of protection that couldn't local people to make use of the land and help accelerate the process was to provide so we have to keep these lines from being privatized that all lab. but he said, late privatisation promotes deforestation, cuz there has kind of up, if this large stretch of land that is covered in rain forest would be privatized. every owner would be permitted to clear 20 percent of their property. ah ah ah

ah ah, with i'm with our service band brief been waiting for this for a long time. we had a victory today and we're just getting started. but we hope to keep going and finish drawing the broaders linkedin right them and not on the microphone enough

with my tail. those yacht, your children were crying. what if we don't make it with our mikey? we just got here from our if you see my family tell them i'm doing well. i still don't believe i felt the sawyer out of food and the cassava flowers. you start la. yesterday, the camps. yes. oh, he said he didn't have any for like a new mom. yeah, i didn't u v oh i'm, we found a pretty trodden path. it got. we didn't see any one now, but we heard the sound of machines all day. don't you get the you? i bought them, but by that my dad all again, i'm with. mm. ah

not in your park from our much fucking. none of the motorcycles had a license plate and black the trucks didn't either. it's all the legal you. it's all gotten worse under the current government point. either this would have been a good, muddied logging. you palm heart harvesting fishing. there's a lot more of that than there used to be allowed one. so meet me in noise i eat when we see ourselves as guardians of the land and he keep up. so we're very concerned kids. these people are taking all of our resources and selling them in our stems. thus in that us both of the prep order yeah, go to his thanks my he key phase. we recently inspected the border of our lands to make our present spelt of london. and we found a lot of traces of intruders on them is permit. he was caught a keystone fall into his mouth, especially people clearing the forest to make grazing land out of it to yeah god.

so our order runs straight through an area being cleared that you're no longer said they'd cut down a lot of trees there. i bought and they even wanted to make a deal with um, dedicated they'll buy. i said, i'm not here to make a deal by chance. i just didn't think that it was. yeah. yeah. you know, i feel more comfortable for people. funny. what about us under stuff that we've worked everything out? once we could at least take logs with she doesn't want to cut down any more trees. let us take a long see my mother. how does that sound? is that a deal? is she should i just wanted to know or you think my fee? i didn't. oh no, that's not how things work. we make the rules here. others may rule the roost and brazil. ya. but we decide here to miss out of bus. i'm like, not 1 in the morning they started taking out their tractors and them love them. be our people. were there monitoring everything i did you for anthony. it's not easy dealing with the lawyers. she has a check with her by defending an area where,

exposing ourselves to danger it is thereby and sometimes even risking our liason on his cheek while he's give it to me. isn't she me? i was scared. we were standing with cameras in front of our warriors bava, so if they'd attacked us, we would have been had 1st agency. so i was very afraid as much as it is, but we stood up to them with that. and i know, and we, once yamato, made my engine for an oil change of incident ah, by police gay cheap. that's why we're demanding the government draw up our borders . but unless we can protect our land vehicle up there, how are we supposed to survive in the coming years? the how are the next generation? i'm not supposed to survive somebody

ah, ah, a warrior doesn't cry that you have to be strong. ah, i'm more brazilian than many others are. because this land is what made me feel about a bottle. ah, because he'll be a legion. i'll be in the local bondage and his people are despised, not just because they occupy, she'll day the job, but they're also hated for the wildness inside them. their connection to nature, their color like molded bronze, a braces. okay. flesh of warrior by precision with which their arrow meets their

prey. but as their sleeping gesture that envelops the river be unless their pension to per caressing feathers and crafting head dresses, the lien and they are hated for their silent walk of their agile move. my god and moving their noble heritage neat to their bodies. if you do that, reach out for the sunlight, conceal indigenous people are hated for the sun. there. hated for the tree within they are hated for their river was at the least they are hated for their connection to life will be and mean to they indigenous people. they only are hated by their and during childhood they ah,

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