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oh. oh oh, okay. tell me what's the best approach for? i got the 1st fire. yes. then the 2nd, then the cattle can come when i got my hand about yes it by. they packed the soil down. you thought so you rotate the pastures. wait a bit, said 2 more fires to the apostles, preschool, what your re fi as gets you a good posture. he moves for you, burned all the branches, and the heavy logs are gone. of this used to build cow sheds and fences. i lived in one direction, you had cost just 15000 rice to build a fence. you don't have to buy, would you just pay the workers and buy the material? the program, once you get a nice piece of land on the cheap my boss, and for a while job that he's recorded,
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telephone conversations illustrate the forces at work in the amazon and how the land grabbers sidestepped the environmental agencies and legalize their ownership. obama. these land grabbers assume that whatever current rules are that will change which gassed tagged, finds for legal activities prior to 2008 have been formerly wave to them. so they assume fines through 2014 will be waived to live omit when they say they're just clearing the forest and the name of progress. that's their argument and it's no secret. nay, no, i think it in, oh, what are you supposed to do if you can't log legally? it's your property and you need to survive. i regret having acted outside the law, but i don't regret felling trees. there's nothing wrong with that. if we clear forests, brazil wouldn't take their don't doable boys like roll and grubbers. no one here isn't one thing because we're farming public land. there's no authority around to tell me this is your land. i've been occupying
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a piece of land for 30 years that my farm, when i've been trying to register it for 20 years. no success goes to that makes me a land grab or any public prosecutor which the i'm occupying public property, medical stuff info on got me to, to do the environmental impact is a big problem. environmental laws are being violated and they're doing everything to keep it that way. the environmental agency, he bama wants to keep operating illegally so they can keep finding us freezing. our operation gives them something to do. i'm still saying that both of these don't have 2 documents here from the environmental agency for 6000000 and 1200000 aware of it. ok to leo. know i'm coming to if i to about on wednesday or 20
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days on appeal. your lawyer has to do it the case and it's true, but it's about slave labor. and i'll take care of it in getting in on the way to pick up a tractor we'd had stopped and pounded earlier. the path to treat and you, we were coming and hid in the forest. you know, the officer noticed and pursued him. the suspect was armed and shot and killed the policeman with a hunting rifle. in . ah, it's not bad and in longing costs money. if you need
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a lot of it to clear areas of around $10000.00 hector's like here in nova progresso football, it takes serious logistics the hundreds of workers and tractors. and that comes at a price. and these people have the money. i bought a new thing with new central, gonna divide. i, since the public prosecutor can't charge people for clearing the forest, they get accused of forming gangs or fraud things. no one can actually prove it. wow, hold. gangs. intervals, accessible logging people. most of the charges of something else on you got that once the public prosecutor does whatever they please. i'm clinicals. i've other hm . okay. here my office is one of them is the biggest seller of land and property. you are. every one knows that,
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why are there problems so that if you make as you try to handle it all yourself, you like, we're the only ones doing this job. in the end, everyone will benefit that, that will not. i mean, you know, it wants to get their hands dirty. go to a broker and see if he's got anything and then they won't. that's what i said, hey, some land with proper papers, cash in hand. can you give me that ego that got it. all they bought the gums at babel, it's all we've received reports that several people with logging companies were active there. we investigated those gangs and their criminal activity lesson thought that included money laundering forgery and tax evasion and is only $2.00 environmental destruction in michigan. the environmental aspect isn't the only element with a plot of land, and the amazon is much cheaper than in the south or southeast of the country. so people get greedy, local people, buy land and having a company gives them an appearance of legitimacy that you're talking to
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documents. are there any hello way? not usually, only the new companies have contracts, the older ones, they have reports from the agricultural authority that did a legal program and other kinds of documents. i like the environmental data register, which has the cadel farming sermons is where a lot for lizzie, agricultural permit, or the environmental permit. but it depends on the agencies in r. and afterwards, you can apply for a property title, and then you just have to wait a bit for it to be issued to me and why not with
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the minimum may until i get a larger project there full to see that stuff going locally is a grungy fast age of a land graph can take place from a distance. he has some on sense that sites on a big plot of land in the state of rain forest. this is decides to occupy, but the rest has to be done locally, not as, as a physical degree, lives in k, l gala fall into someone has to hire workers and do the logging ally. and the area has to be guarded policy. i am that one. it can unfold in stages, top of the land has to be demarcated, it's and then it has to be defended, was they, as is all to bring them in. sometimes the same plot of land will be claimed by various all the boys got this can lead to vine. i'd say those about us, you know, danny gay at 1st glance to land may seem empty locally the uh, there's actually a local community nearby. yeah, that leads to conflict auto body or another line graphical might also be trying to
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claim the land that as you think, it's no wonder that violence is rife in places where land is stolen. i'll get it in the amazon violence i is the most concentrated where there's a lot of logging thumb and there's a close link between land grabbing deforestation and violence and the amazon, your latest award, aussie i was amazon didn't work is yeah here where it's just the attack us, we strike back the same way if i that they come with clubs, knives or dogs, we fight back with the same methods and throw them out. i no matter what size. so if i say, oh, you mean, well, i should do this. i love that we've been fighting against land grabbing here for 18 years. it's resolved, the people living here were born and raised here, just like that. great grandparents in yahoo was that's the problem with land grabbers. you see the odd if they've taken over this whole area effort as don't you get like they came from queer bar through the jama shame, national park about the other side. they were markings everywhere,
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logs lying everywhere. everything was occupied by land grab is added on the la you'd then the land crackers and log his. don't care about anything or anyone in the, in the english big game. ah, don't win. lou murphey m as yes. but i'm on with as you want to, we join forces with amanda, roku people to defend the tappa, jacques, and helped draw the boundaries a new. i'm a good thought a we share a common culture with them under roku. people you know, flooded the forest is our life blanche. we hunt and fish and plant potatoes and yeah, no, there's no difference between our traditional way of life, other than that of the mando roku. como. a budget. jim i'm a little i
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was it's one jim. asthma this. good morning fighters ahead of good morning senior. suarez and team ill go. this is a very important moment for us. when do you want them to put them all? we have to stick together. the human and joint forces to defend the unique mandible land. every one of us should pitch in on the video god. because if we don't fight off and up, we might lose it and also say ok, raise your hand if you want to come along. it's quite a bit error, though, if i will ever them okay, by tomorrow. i'll come jose, a bargain. my. who else? francisco wealth solem. huh. salma. lamar, if your income are gonna give up? it wasn't for how many families live in this settlement. i saw a handful of people. it's not enough. i can never go back and so they can go from the bottom. you got people should feel an obligation towards the community that this land wasn't handed over. it was conquered. and if we residents of the region do, nothing will end up losing it. they will go out no homework up at any sucky as it
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is. don't know. ching energy visit was i suggested a few of you go door to door. she's in our shekel. fully matter and resonate doesn't she and ask them for how does that keep russia math as in school need? you know, i had to put it on. we can take the boat over and ask them to help us gather he was gonna, he's gonna, if i didn't lease, and they won't have any excuse each with the west in your louise, i think he's in the house over there. ms. m. as in bob dodge, hello,
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my friend is see if i'd like to explain to you what drawing the boundaries means asked and why it's so important that i know them. i think that it's important for us, for you to have your land secured in the future will you and just like us, i think you also have to fight for your land. they think that your thief garvin, has empress your knob or got him beard. we're being pressured by gold diggers and land grabbers invading our region back yet. right? is if you end up being displaced by land grabbers or the government, all things will get tricky. hears up up, i figured if use like if not sam or you're only here on weekends. we don't really know what's going on and escalate the rush. i should supporters of we need you merge them presses are now if you need us, then we'll help on. ah, my sons, like we're here to help and support them. i because we need them and they need us. i mean, it doesn't matter whose land it is, because it's being threatened to have somebody do that. we're going to lose our land and they will lose their smiles on them. we live side by side if. okay,
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thank oh lou. oh no. did to my them of is good evening everyone. what we want to talk about drawing the boundaries again with the on the market. so let's look at the map and see how to get to the mountain stream mop. and i will start the marketing the boundary. i got there. all one thing is yahoo got a bit more. i recognized that a mock awesome. thanks simple i. we have to go through the mountains and then follow the stream for about 2 kilometers. that's our starting point. well, if i miss the myself and the thought him when we were drawing borders for the sorry, mobile region, we encountered miners and loggers. we told them we didn't want any conflict and we were just drawing borders of them. my father, honest up the i'm, it budget will give you all gave we run into any one and talk to them. they won't
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respond. oh there why here. so i'm sure the people moving in on our land are aware of al operation fusion. all thought is that both of them don't over the phone. i all said yes. so i got this. yeah, i think we should follow the stream in this direction. then the path will go down onto the road just that will take us to the mountains. then we go down the road and follow the river. we'll get to the boundary. this white line here. that's where we'll start with, [000:00:00;00] hey,
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no, no. i came by boat and went to the meeting. i did my 1st who didn't want to participate and went back home and easy. but then the visitors because they kind of changed our minds. i use photo, nobody else wanted to take part. i. we thought of food if we did like a like you, they have to work next week. but after that lap will come back here, let's assume i'm nobody, nobody knows. one of the put stone and the other jumping shoulders. i hello, a man of the boy, mom. my, thank you. here's the river. we're here and we'll work our way over here. are you that's point number 121 of those. i'm willing didn't i got a lawyer and more women are getting involved to because the government isn't dealing with a person, know me as soon as they have fight. i mean, unless they feed yes, the women realised they have daughters soil and that's why they have to take part
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in the struggle if it's the same, but they have to leave their children at home. it's hard for women to take their children to protest as being as a if they get attacked with pepper spray, for instance, they have to run away with their children in their arms. oh, that makes it harder. of course, my son baron. but they're not giving up, they're fighting for the future of their children there, and grandchildren. and everyone who's yet to be born. i don't know. can i get a full schedule? i am almost like, hey ma'am, i'm an asshole. and this is our land, our home last year and it's been destroyed. i feel that we were little co women are here with our leaders and our children's. and we want to tell the government that this is our home. i sent it back if our ancestors gave it to us, yet nicholas land is sacred to us, a shout on my neck,
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your last little that the government has destroyed every thing miss through you. but we're here to resist. and to show that we're both wonderful cool, and women at the same time is so was maria, found bailey in your brain lonely. my mother is indigenous. not my father, but i wanted to be a true member of an indigenous people because i'm proud of my ancestry new thinking . i think you and your home, if you don't let them be yoga, and i'll have children one day too, and i want them to live here and only without the land. grab the la garza gold digger. you've ended up here and he's like, we want them to leave again because they're also driving out the anime nicely hunted, my dd. it is a fast cast and bare. i go home with about yeah, the law and i don't want it easy. sorry guys, i'm stuck in
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a traffic jam and sorry, so, and saw 16 pickups headed towards on that end. and 2 bands that got unloaded. and you know, i heard there are 60 environment agency pick ups on the way to put up with it was to stay here. 3, come with me and the things are changing frequencies on with this one. yes. that of their frequency. they're already talking a lot too. i edwardo you read me all the 38 you read me. i doubt you read me a lot of me about know you read me? who's there more than we about? 06 vehicles just drove into your street for roger that database
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a simona 55 k, a banjo. great bear with me here are you coming from on almost a farm cold? i don't know. it's my cousin a far as a quite or a 5 kilometer itself. and i spent quite a lot, a lot of your motorcycle here. we'll check that it's for kilometers. get in and show us the webinar cause i did. okay. i because i just got like a fast lump. so avalon dekessa. mm hm. it was almost mother me, she'd be about $25000.00 areas are clear cut each year. what year? most of these areas are on public land and linked to illegal activities. oh boy, they usually involve land speculation, the formation of land, monopolies, and appropriation of public land. the logging operation is just the 1st step will
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huge areas are illegally occupied and him as an area of $30000.00 hector's belonging to just one person can yield tremendous profits while inflicting major damage on the rain forest when long and bit his. but i thought if i could just stay up with them for because i had because about them this guy named cassini, i was fine several times for logging back. there wasn't enough to arrest him to the authorities charge him a tax evasion. he had to release them for lack of evidence. leaving forests isn't a crime because some people have been doing it since the dawn of humanity that is going to wound him would contain with i say that wasn't farmers over there. in the front at the cow shed. and there's another building farther down,
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as mother was your motorcycles? yes. if we burn them with i have a claim much, did you get paid? $3000.00 range for filling trees per month. yes, i did. i bought an acre. the camp has been dismantled by may of this land belongs to indigenous people. no one's allowed to be here. to let you pack up and i just and then were burning the rest and how about that? and we'll take care of the tractor about that, mike and why does he pembroke? well, let's get the tractor. good. i thought okay, the clean of tractor is that very good? any that that i buy, that was the best picture of it. they knew they could get caught at any moment, but they were listening in on us what you had there was a radio in the tractor weather here. that's why they were leaving. and not every 2 weeks and weeks i had offered,
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i had less than one. and then you got called yes. yeah. how much did you make? i don't know if i take me back with him yet. we're still waiting to get paid for it . but they still have to pay me. i'm supposed to get 1600 ratio. they. i'm going ivanhoe lane. i can't go by keith. i'm an enemy. tell me that they didn't hurt more working illegally on indigenous land than on legally purchase land. i think the workers take big risk. yes, of the earned more points by now, but a new, it's illegal. i didn't catch you, but the boss is compete high wages because the profits are here. thank you. some iran, untouched indigenous languages you leave and the number here is extremely high quality . my debate, single angelina tree, which is $10000.00 ry finance. there will always be people doing this kind of work . my thinking is force icbc and
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we get, we know it's a little, you know, that we can't read or write, but this is our livelihood. not all. there's no other work here with home. so that's all good. how are we supposed to survive? if these jobs disappeared, because the environment ministries shots, everything down, like many people will starve and you won't be able to sell your house, so your land, everything will collapse. so we wouldn't fell trees if we didn't have to have it without a high school diploma. you can't work anywhere any more. you're out there. where should people like me work who didn't go to high school? got back at the so that's how it is here. i thought by alan with honestly you enter by that they don't on a day that initiative now with this family leaders, we note down their details and statement that we need that because we intend to prosecute their employer my they need and who's operating a logging company i'd urge them, of course, they're tractors, aren't permitted here. for instance, this is indigenous land, you know, mark and if you, this tractors in such poor condition,
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it can't be over. if you can't remove the tractors and they put a risk to the environment because they continue to be used to legally will. we are allowed to destroy thoughts, but that's what we'll do at least earlier and spoke with this. lee is mcknight, i couldn't remember they they both are both on the environmental agency as frozen operations on my land. my entire property, or if anyone wants to buy 500 hector's of crosland, i sell it for 2000000 way. sure younger now i put off of that into another piece of land next door or a bit farther away and clear that will then they freeze operations and got to what's the point? now it's been a 500 hector's 1200 to have cleared the land anyway. the
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l mange pizza, real industry land grabbing in areas state and rain forest means the brazilian people are gradually being expropriated is nail it them. and then there's the clear cutting it, which land grab has used to solidify that illegal occupation. it's the worst thing that can happen is if the public property is appropriated and the rain forest is caught down me. and since it's all illegal that keeps away, honest investor, the sky that's good for land grab has been bad for brazil to the way. but as years ago, josh, ah ultimately mono missy shackleton started, is on the buses, official fines, and flames for damages aren't enough. we have to respond quickly and forcefully. it is,
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it's the only way we can protect the fundamental rights of the brazilian people nowadays, and the punishment needs to be swift and commensurate to the crimes you fabulous does. this is, that has been in laws that so be a dog as a double black. don't even talk about as soon as the environmental issue is very complaint is one to go over d. i'm going to play devil's advocate to johnson, who can guarantee me the coming generation will approve of today's protection of the rain forest. never in other words. so as do you miss dinosaurs on earth to day? you know, so i 5 fall fall time, a plugin. sorry, joe saw dana source, no numbers. no c wasn't imagine if we stood up to protect them back then, then they might still be around today. who says the next generation would want to know or is just because of them. yep. for the month of august. your yahoo! to give you the, you know, so we owe money with
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a sob. i'm waiting on friday. i'm sorry, with the indigenous peoples belong to the past. it on his aboriginal peoples belong to the past, more than one dish or more. but in the end, they might be the ones to survive my son, or rather their modest and respectful way of life that regards humans as a small part of a larger ho. this lapse that way of life will be the only one to endure. but as yet before year, it conceivable that the survivors of the downfall of western civilization, but its claims to universality, will be these people as a whole good, inferior, perhaps their culture is our future, not our past religion. they all roses and i, my wife always lives. we can learn so much from them and not the other way around, dissolves in rush was injecting from seducer. we believe we're civilizing them. danger yet they ought to be civilizing us. of the dimension association, brownish shadow,
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sinshay in my eyes. the indigenous peoples are of critical importance to brazil's identity, the hash desk former did. there's one thing that sets asked resilience apart from those who are destroying our planet could use download as opposed to being in that thing allows us to imagine a different future for brazil ill foster. and that is that there are people still living in our country. james, who live intelligently, you'll money later. eh. thank you jane. thank you. this is really tough. every one out there looking at us. look at how exhausting leanne this is really strenuous. with nothing to eat, i'm eating sugar. instead of chris saw the flour. mm hm. i forgot that they don't come
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ah, dead as you can see going back, you know, going, if we agreed the mrs. here at the border, but they're not here. you don't like you know. hm. i am never worried and want to head toward stuff. no body. i got it done with job, isn't like you, bob. yet? i got i it is like you but i going to licky bella bull today from point 10 about 100 meters from here. it's another $385.00 made is to duty. so we're almost there by an issue with his and got, and she will my, when it seems like, i mean, i see from the if we want to stop the deforestation of the amazon,
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what we have to protect all the unused forest areas. but right now, as it will still accessible to land crap as well within the next 5 to 10 years uses even allotted there, mostly in the states, tata and amazon us on us in much of these areas the rain forest could be present. it is, for instance, in the form of nature is out of all extractive raises, as there was a whole reserves for sustainable development. a little he got into you are you, there is several categories of protection that could allow local people to make use of the land and help accelerate the process was to provide. so we have to keep these, and from being privatized, is that all lab, but i said, age, privatization promotes deforestation. there has kind of, if this large stretch of land that is covered in rain forest would be privatized, every owner would be permitted to clear 20 percent of their property. ah
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that they're not always bad, but he's been waiting for this for a long time. we had a victory today and we're just getting started. but we hope to keep going and finish drawing the broaders like in write them in on the microphone enough with me down there is you out, your children were crying. what if we don't make it with our mikey? we just got here from our didn't have you see my family tell them i'm doing well. i still feel better than i thought. those were out of booth the cassava flower su styles law was yesterday, the camp li. yes. i said he didn't have any floor, letty. a new mom had a. i didn't you? b o. we found a pretty trodden path that we didn't see any one now. but we heard the sound of
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machines all day. did i forget the june? i bought about by the model. they didn't i have that ah look in your pack mail, i'm not complaining. none of the motorcycles had a license plate and black the trucks didn't either. it's all the legal you. it's all gotten worse under the current government and gwent either this you have been a good, muddied logging. you palm heart harvesting, fishing. there's a lot more of that than there used to be on. so weak me in noise like iq when we see ourselves as guardians of the land and he keep up. so we're very concerned kids . these people are taking all of our resources and selling them in our stems, thus in to put us both other pref order. yeah,
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go to his seat. i think he phase, we recently inspected the border of our lands to make our present spell a bundle nod and we found a lot of traces of intruders as him. his permit, you was caught a keystone farther than through his mouth, especially people clearing the forest to make grazing, land out of etc. i god. so our hoarder runs straight through an area being cleared . i just, my lager said they'd cut down a lot of trees there. at the bottom and they even wanted to make a deal with um, dedicated, they'll buy but i said, i'm not here to make a deal. i just didn't think it was. yeah. yeah. you know, i don't want to talk to people. what about us understood? until we've worked everything out. once we could at least take her logs with she that won't cut down any more trees. let us take a long so my mother, how does that sound? is that a deal? me see if i just wanted to know, like i did,
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i know that's not how things work. we make the rules here. others may rule the roost and brazil. ya. but we decide here to miss out of bus. i'm makin at 1 in the morning they started taking out their tractors and at them love them be our people . were there monitoring everything? i did you for them to look. it's not easy dealing with the lawyers. she, as you check with her by defending an area where, exposing ourselves to danger it is thereby and sometimes even risking our liason. i wanted chief calling his could you read to me? i was scared of. we were standing with cameras in front of our warriors, isabella, so if they'd attacked us, we would have been, hadn't 1st agency. so i was very afraid as much as it is, but what we stood up to them was that i know i know. and we one syngenta who made mileage implant. doyle inch of incident ah,
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by blues gayety. that's why we're demanding the government draw up our borders. or we can protect our land yackel up the how are we supposed to survive in the coming years? the how are the next generation? i'm not supposed to survive somebody. ah, ah sure, a warrior doesn't cry. you have to be strong with. i'm more brazilian than many others are. because this land is what made me feel about a battle. ah,
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because he'll be new up in the local bun, ditching his people are despised, not just because they occupy. she'll daily jo, blue. they're also hated for the wildness inside them. their connection to nature who if their color like molded bronze a place is okay. flesh of warrior by precision with which their arrow meets their prey last care, but as here, limping gesture that envelops the river in this, their pension to per caressing feathers and crafting head dresses. sylvia lean death, they are hated for their silent walk of their agile move my god, and moving their noble heritage to their their body. so if you do that, reach out for the sunlight, conceal indigenous people are hated for the sun there. hated for the tree within they are hated for the river was at the leisure they are hated for their connection
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