how do people unless galveston live today in science report, background stories on all platforms, wilson by d. w. enjoying the view, and come to take a look at this. our tv highlights every week in box, subscribe now. with me. oh, we're here at the residency of former president hammock korzy in what used to be known as the green zone. when you, as the nato forces, were still fighting in this country. we are in the heart of cowboy and mister cars . i still consider to be one of the most influential voices in the country, and we are here to ask him how he feels about the situation in afghanistan, one year after the taliban returned to power. mister cars, i thank you very much for having us. when was the last time you left this compound,

or the last time was about to i guess her. 1520 days ago, i went to visit her doctor of the law and asking the question because you are seemingly not allowed to travel abroad. are you a person of the taliban? no, no. ah. well oh, with regard to the travels are brought. that has not been possible and they told me that but to inside the cobbled city herb her, when the security is fine, we asked him we let him know the time go to a place and they provide us an escort in the escort takes me to that place is that confined to cobbler? i said, are you also allowed to cross city boundaries? i haven't yet done that

a so i don't know. i haven't did. did told them that i am going to visit to the provinces. i think i should rather soon around ottoman than we will know. why didn't you leave the country like so many other important representatives of the islamic republic when the change happened last year. this is, this is our country. this is our home. you don't leave your whole when things become difficult. you stay at your home when you fix it and you try to to, to make it right. simple as that. so if there were a chance now you wouldn't leave. never, no, never, never miss the cause i have 3 small i dietary. yes. and what kind of future do you see for them in this afghanistan? i want them to have a future as good as any other child house around the world. and this is a very important question for future. for children,

my daughters are studying here in cobble. they are going to school here. they're going to the afghan turkish schools here in cobbled ho. within 2 years, the old one who's 10 now malay, she'll be graduating from cross shakes into so it her as thinks turn now that means she will not be able to continue her education. but you do with an way you sent her a broad if she can't let that because the taliban are enforcing that is exactly the question before me in before hundreds of thousands of other afghan families and and and, and, and parents. what do we do when our daughters reach the age of a beyond primary school when they are to go to a middle school or secondary school,

leaving the country means abandoning the country are. so we have to do all we can't fight for the right of all children, all of our daughters to educate we wouldn't give up on that. the taliban are really trying to enforce agenda, segregated society. you have conversation with representatives of the taliban a. what is the kind of censor getting, why are they doing this? why are they sticking to this? been surprisingly and for the good of our country. all those tired of our leaders that her. i have a meeting that doctor of the loved the light and, and myself were meeting together or in agreement with us. they want the girls to be the girls to be educated, they want the country to be educated. so there is no difference of opinion there, but still it's happening, but the strain is higher masters happening. therefore, we have to get together as afghans all of us, the thought about and the rest of,

of, of the country to change this. but this is a decision within the taliban. or if this is a decision imposed her from outside by whatever means. we have to change this. what do you mean by imposed from outside? look, you heard of the former prime minister of parks done. oh man, find him run hon. speaking to the year of foreign ministers of this fleming. word in a slumber. trying to justify her. if the afghan girl don't go to school, trying to blame it on traditions, which is rock, which is entirely iraq. and i am a personal witness to that. that what he said was wrong. this got nothing to do with, with traditions oriented. that why what pakistan have an interest on a band it will have again, histone the week of gala son of garrison that is in need and of ghana said that

that cannot stand on a swan feet and afghan, a son that isn't poverty. lack of education means poverty, lack of education fargo's means lack of abilities. lack of education for girls means that half of the society, at least half of the society, at least because of girls are not educated. men are also undermined their abilities . therefore, at least off of society, not being able to produce and participate. that is 2nd, sexually weakened, weakened and deprived of gather so, so there cannot be any other reason for parkson to do this. you're thing that they're using education as a weapon to keep afghanistan downtrodden this. this has been used for a long time. even way back her. when the british were earth ruling india, her, those parts of the sub continent,

the to pause the british rule were denied education. but if there is so much taste for education, why are the taliban not just saying, let's do it. i mean, if they want to serve their people, shows you that you know that, that, that, that is a question that they need to answer and the digital survey, so they weigh fewest as of now they shouldn't, they must allow the garage to go to school. there is no compromise there and i've taught and it's very clear, there's no compromise here, no way that we will allow of again, gore's denying education no way. you think there's a disservice off guest. you think there will ever listen to you? i mean, you are still, you have to listen to the african people. that's what the afghan people want. this is against the interest of afghanistan. deny angers. an education means denying of gunnison growth and progress. are they here to serve the afghan people

and make them progress towards will being in economic prosperity and stand on our on fit or do, do we want our country to be downtrodden in need? poor in desperate which one is it that we want the u. s. kilt arcade, a leader, i'm and as our hero in a drone strike, the target. how is this in an area where a lot of taliban representatives live? is afghan is done once again becoming a sponsor of global terror of catalyst. i never was a sponsor for global term of kennesaw was a victim of globe return the afghan to plot the greatest victims of terrors. the afghan pupils commiserate very strongly fair and strong to would all the victims of terrorism around the world. because we have suffered more african people

commiserate deeply with the victims of september 11th tragedy. because we were the victims. first, the afghans are victims of terrorism and also unfortunately, victims of the fight against terrorism. so we want none of that. as for the, the, the incident of so i hittie the americans announced that they had killed him. the taliban said they were not aware of his presence or his t in cobbler and that they would investigate. should that investigation take place or you believe them? or we have to see the result of the investigation. let them come forward, let them do contact the americans and, and prove each side prove their points. i'm speaking as a citizen from kennesaw it as a citizen of afghanistan, we have suffered all of us. i have suffered and suave millions of other suffered at the hands of tourism and of the hands of the fight against ours. if we take it back

to september, 11, 2000 to one. back then the taliban were hosting arcadia. now we had 20 years later to decades later. and again there seems to be connections, there were and said that, so what does this tell us? what may be they'll apply the word of canister maybe, or the tourist groups were enough garrison. but the prison, so felt either or, or the tourist group should have gone to some of the product off the chord wash where the west led by the americans and the pac studies used very intensely extremism. each one force on purpose and object of the americans used extremism to defeat the sa retreat in the parks and he's used it to weaken afghanistan. i will never accept the notion that of ghana,

son was hosting any tourist group, but i will tell you with confidence that afghanistan has been nate to suffer at the hands of terrors. if we look at that 20 years of brutal war ever since the $911.00 attacks only to replace the taliban with a taliban. was it all for nothing? no. i would never say that the afghan people supported that alive because we wanted to be freed from violence, from extremism and from interference that i spoke about earlier. know, looking back, i compartment allies it into separate jets. once it is the civilian assistance

help to education. a better economy, reconstruction and construction of robes of bridges, of electricity, of lots of other good things that happen to have cancer which was done with the help of the united states. the greater part of what it was, there's the 2nd compartment was the military side of that compete, which was a disaster. which was wrong. which is why we are suffering to day. are the taliban trying to erase the past 20 years of the islamic republic of afghanistan, a republic that will always be connected with your name? it is impossible to raise sir the past 20 years? no. the good things of it, the bad things of course we want to raise we don't want the country to suffer in

war and bombardments and all that. and then, and glass and, and, and, and explosion, snow. but the millions of african kids educated cannot be erased. and should not be tried to be erased the country, sir. infrastructure the roads to bridges cannot be raised or, and should not be tried to be read if you take yourself back to that very decisive fine. her face, the international troops pecking up with the speed of light, the tiny bands, lightning offensive, heeding them to enter kabul. then president, a shaft danny fleeing f can troops not fighting young africans clinging to airplanes. and then falling out of the sky, who was about to blame for and of that very, very sad the the manner in which the united states withdrew from of

canso was disgraceful and insulting to us and also hurtful to the american people. the american people are a good people. i know that i've been to america many times, so very, very kind to be a very hospitable people. so what the way things went wrong during those days would not, in our views reflect on the american people, but to reflect on their government and the military, the way the, the wrongly wrongly, wrongly did things the responsibility for that has to be accepted by all sides by afghans and by the international community, especially by the united states, paving the way for the taliban returned to power was obviously the doha agreement

signed in february 2020. between the united states and the taliban representatives . it was essentially not a peace agreement. it was a withdrawal, agree, yes, almost unconditionally labor does abuse agreement. was it wrong to enter the door process and to sign it the way it was signed? i would have not conducted the the door talks the way they were conducted. i think i can be as, as concise on that as i just said, but out entirely agree with you that the do. her agreement was more than a withdrawal agreement. that a piece i think had there been the intention for a peaceful transition and i've got a son or a coalition between the taliban and the rest of the country. that would be great for us for everybody. we would have not lost as much as we, as we lost the, the nation reserve. so the control country that poor country like us to lose

$7000000000.00. that's a lot of money for us. and the institutions and the military hardware and the civil services. and then the, the, the, the, her leaving off for hundreds of thousands of educated afghans, qualified highly educated men and woman women of our country. that's a huge, huge loss. that's a disastrous loss when you see the taliban flag at the presidential palace, which is not too far away from your residency. does it make your heartbeat? no, no. it's the taliban flag. they're not the government enough kind of fun. our national flag is the, is the black, red, and green flood, which is the historic flag of again the sun, which has been dad since the 1920s,

at least. and any government that wants to have in national flood dictated for the country must do that to the lawyer general golf. i've got a son disliked that's now on the palace is the thought. yvonne on flag. you are the president of gun sean from and 20022201412 long years. so really that's your name on the islamic republic. that is no more if you honestly reflect and look back. where did you personally go wrong or have made wrong choices during that time? well, i could have, i could have made quite a number of mistakes. if i go back and think about it, i could come to and say, these would be the mistakes that i made. probably i was to a zealous on to christie. on

i adopted the u. s. model of parliament. there were other issues as well that i may not choose to speak about. now. can i race to and you can, if you want to talk about them or not, i mean the true that we're always in the limelight, at least of resting media, was massive corruption election rating to decide the factors undermining the islamic public, almost eating up from the inside well, was no these 2 precisely were not our doing. how come the election was not drake by afghans. the election was strict, bye bye bye. such an outside place. so it wasn't the for it of the a no, not at all. not at all. so what i can give you so many examples, but i don't want to go there. now. i don't want to make an already bad impression of what some of the western countries did and of gas that even more worse. so you

blame them for them. oh i, you have evidence. i have evidence. there are people who would come and tell you, give you names of what certain western individuals did or some from the european union. some from the united states, some election officials that they brought or dasa story, the thought. so, sol, so deep in details documented or by us. and we have had conversations about this. i can give you examples that there were like so many collections. so was it always a foreign hand or where did the wrong you go wrong if you elections? look, this rigging off the afghan addictions began in 2009 and there was choice to tell about that. let's not go into that now. i would love to by the way, i would love to this is the subject that, that, that daffodils know that i want our western audience is to know. that corruption

was already should which issue action was a huge issue. power divided into one local corruption, pity corruption. in day, in the provision of services, bribes was our, our hours and hours sponsibility. i take full responsibility for the pity, corruption. it did ministration. but the big corruption of millions of dollars and contracts was entirely foreign. and i must tell you, i began to suspect tours the end of my garment, not complete enough. i got. it least you above the, the mill years of my government that that was a planned activity. your argument is that leading to the downfall, it's much more or maybe entirely the foreign hand than compared to the african

political elite at the time. leading to the don fall is without a doubt in my mind more a foreign her match nation. then the afghan one clearly, but let me also tell you believing in that i must also say that of course we, afghans have had our own responsibilities and we are not without responsibility. if we look at the situation now, the economy has all but collapsed and nearly half the population. it is 20000000 people are experiencing high levels of food insecurity. what is the way out the way out is for strengthening unity among afghans involving all the afghan people in the running of the country. afghan, his tongue is the whole of or off counts. it does not belong to one group.

on one part or one element of the country, this country belongs to all afghans. therefore, this is a call on the thought of mind that i make here. that they must, as i called them, brothers. when the americans were bombing them, would there was this conflict when some of us as well we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're calling for conflict and more war against that. i should know. there are brothers and we must sit to go to have peace. now i called on the taliban as a brothers to consider all other afghans, brothers and sisters, even those who are against them, who may be thinking of resisting them, that, that they must be contacted and brought back to a political process to a national dialogue. so we, afghans can, in unity and through the expression of the word of the,

of can people chart away towards a better future. this is a call of the taliban that i have repeatedly made. we call your brothers then. now you are in the garment, you call the others who are opposing you for whatever reason, brothers, and bring them back and make it, would have garrison. afghanistan will never grow or be peaceful in disunity all in one driving everything. it not letting others, she know, the international community straggling. how to engage with a taliban, how much a they should provide to afghanistan, the national assets, about 7000000000 in the u. s. alone as to throw in there. so how do you feel about that? does not good best, very objectionable. i referred to afghans being victim when we're talking of terrace. how can the united states government take money from one victim to give it to the other victim?

you're referring to that was frozen as it's being used to give to the september 11th attack, make them the victims of september 11. we commiserate with full, we understand their pain. we understand their suffering, their loss. we know it better than any other nation because we have gone through the same ourselves. so how can the united states government take the money from a poor victim? from a greater victim from one from the one who has suffered a lot more and yet was a lot for her as well. and to dig from this victim, to give it to another victim, i would call and the victims of september 11th. as someone who fully shares their pain, not to accept that money from a victim who's a lot porter, and a lot deeper evict is half gonna stand a last country. no, no, no, no, no, it's not a lost country. europe. well, imacs of history,

a massive lee of route to country in the world among the oldest countries. and so those issues in this part of the world are we will, we will be fine. this is a blend, a small one. in the, in the millions of far history, this will go away and will be back on our feet and stroke. is afghanistan a country last for women? no. dis, to his gentry. if afghanistan as a country just for women, that will also mean of ghana son lost itself. we shall never allow that. now again, robert will educate. they will go to school. they will be engineers and doctors and journalists and in parliament. and do well the time will come and you will see it direct salenti. thank you very much for having us. good talking to you. thank you for talking to wonderful. wonderful.

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