ah, so we have to do all we can fight for the right or for children, all 4 daughters to our interview with how many cars i next on d. w make a raring to read. if there is any erotic offence between them, you'd have to find it between the lines g w literature, 100 german street. ah, we're here at the residency of former president, how many cars i in what used to be known as the green zone when u. s. a nato forces were still fighting in this country. we are in the heart of cowboy and mister cars, i still consider to be one of the most influential voices in the country. and we

are here to ask him how he feels about the situation in afghanistan. one year after the taliban to return to power. mister cars. i thank you very much for having us. when was the last time you left this compound or the last time was about term, i guess. 1520 days ago, i went to visit her doctor de la and asking the question because you are seemingly not allowed to travel abroad. are you a person of the taliban? no, no. ah. well, oh, with regard to the travelers are brought that has not been possible and they told me that. but inside the cobbled city herb her, when the security is fine. so we asked him, we let him know the time go to a place and they provide us an escort in the escort takes me to that place. is that

confined to cobbler? i said, are you also allowed to cross city boundaries? i haven't yet done that. are so i don't know, i haven't did do. told them that i am going to visit to the provinces. i think i should rather soon around ottoman than we will know. why didn't you leave the country like so many other important representatives of the islamic republic when the change happened last year? this is, this is our country. this is our home. you don't leave your whole when things become difficult. you stay at your home when you fix it and you try to to, to make it right. simple as that. so if there were a chance now you wouldn't leave never, no, never, never miss the cause i have 3 small, a dietary, yes. and what kind of future do you see for them in this afghanistan?

i want them to have a feature as good as any other child house around the world. and this is a very important question far future for children. my daughters are studying here in caldwell. they're going to school here to go to the afghan turkish schools. here in cobbled her within 2 years. her, the old one who's 10 now malay, she'll be graduating from class 6 into so it her as thinks to now that means she will not be able to continue her education. but you do with and where you sent her abroad. if she gone to that because the taliban are enforcing that is exactly the question before me in before hundreds of thousands of other african families and infant and and,

and parents. what do we do when our daughters reach the age of for a beyond primary school? when they are to go to a middle school or secondary school, leaving the country means abandoning the country. so we have to do all we can't fight for the right of all children, all of our daughters to educate. we wouldn't give up on that. the taliban are really trying to enforce agenda, segregated society. you have conversation with representatives of the taliban a. what is the kind of sensor getting, why are they doing this? why are they sticking to this? been surprisingly and for the good of our country, all those type of our leaders that sir, i have the meeting, the structure of the loved them and, and myself, we're meeting together or in agreement with us. they want the girls to be the girls

to be educated, they want the country to be educated. so there is no difference of opinion there, but still it's happening, but the strain is higher masters happening. therefore, we have to get together as afghans all of us, the thought about and the rest of, of the country to change this. but this is a decision within the taliban, or this is a decision imposed from outside by whatever means. we have to change this. what do you mean by imposed from outside? look you heard of the former prime minister of parks done a man hunt him run hunt speaking to the year. the foreign ministers of this fun, mich word in islam, but trying to justify her, if the afghan girl don't go to school, trying to blame me, took traditions, which is rock, which is entirely wrong. and i am

a personal witness to that. that what he said was wrong. this got nothing to do with, but traditions oriented at why what pakistan have an interest on a band. it will have again, histone the week of galas tunnel of canada that is in need and of ghana said that that cannot stand on his own feet and afghan, a son that isn't poverty, lack of education means poverty, lack of education for girls means lack of abilities lack of education for girls means that a half of the society at least half of the society, at least because of girls are not educated. men are also undermined in their abilities. therefore, at least half of society not being able to produce and participate. that is extremely weak and weakened and deprived of garrison, so there cannot be any other reason for parkson to do this. you're thing that they're using education as a weapon to keep afghanistan downtrodden this. this has been used for a long,

long time, even way back her when the brochure, her ruling india, her those parts of the sub continent, the to pause the british rule were denied education. but if there is so much thirst for education, why are the taliban not just saying, let's do it. i mean, if they want to serve their people, shows you that you know that, that, that, that is a question that they need to answer. and that the new child survey, so they refused, as of now they shouldn't, they must allow girls to go to school. there is no compromise there. and i've told them this very clearly, there's no compromise here, no way that we will allow of youngers denying education. no way to think this was a disservice of gaston, you think there will ever listen to you?

i mean, you are still, you have to listen to the african people. that's what the african people want. this is against the interest of afghanistan. deny, angers. an education means denying of gayness and growth and progress. are they here to serve the afghan people and make them progress towards will being in economic prosperity and stand on our on fit or do do we want our country to be downtrodden in need? poor in desperate which one is it that we want? the u. s. kilts, arcade a leader. i'm and as our hero in a drone strike, the target. how is this in an area where a lot of taliban representatives live? is afghan is done once again becoming a sponsor of global terror of catalyst. i never was a sponsor for global term of kennesaw was a victim of globe return the afghan people of the greatest victims of terrors. dove

got pupils commiserate very strongly fair and strong to would all the victims of terrorism around the world. because we have suffered more african people commiserate deeply with the victims of september 11th tragedy. because we were the victims. first, the afghans are victims of terrorism and also unfortunately, victims of the fight against terrorism. so we want none of that. as for the, the, the incident of so i hittie the americans announced that they had killed him. the taliban said they were not aware of his presence or his t in cobbler and that they would investigate. should that investigation take place or you believe them? or we have to see the result of the investigation. let, let them come forward, let them do contact americans and, and to each side prove their points. i'm speaking as a citizen from kennesaw it, as a citizen of afghanistan,

we have suffered all of us. i have suffered and so of millions of other suffered at the hands of tourism and of the hands of the fight against ours. if we take it back to september, 11, 2001. back then the taliban were hosting arcadia. now we had 20 years later to decades later. and again there seems to be connections, there were and said that, so what does this tell us? what may be they'll apply the word of canister maybe, or the tourist groups were enough garrison. but the prison, so felt either or, or the tourist group should have gone to some of the product off the chord wash where the west led by the americans and the pac studies used very intensely extremism. each one force on purpose and objective. the americans used extremism to defeat the

sa retreat in the parks and he's used it to weaken afghanistan. i will never accept the notion that of ghana, son was hosting any tourist group. but i will tell you, with confidence that afghanistan has been nate to suffer at the hands of taurus. if we look at that 20 years of brutal war ever since the $911.00 attacks only to replace the taliban with a taliban, was it all for nothing? no, i would never say that the afghan people supported that alive because we wanted to be free from violence, from extremism and from interference that i spoke about earlier. now, looking back, i compartment allies,

it into separate shifts. once it is the civilian assistance, help to education, a better economy, reconstruction and construction of robes of bridges, of electricity, of lots of other good things that happen to love canada, which was done with the help of the united states. the greater part of money was there's the 2nd compartment was the military side of that compete? which was a disaster. which was wrong. which is why we are suffering to day. are the taliban trying to erase the past 20 years of the islamic republic of afghanistan, a republic that will always be connected with your name?

it is impossible to raise sir the past 20 years? no. the good things of it, the bad things, of course we want to raise. we don't want her the country to suffer in war and bombardments and all that. and then, and glass and, and, and, and explosion, snow. but the millions of afghan kit educated cannot be erased and should not be tried to be erased. the country's sir infrastructure. the roads to bridges cannot be raised or and should not be tried to be read. if you take yourself back to that very decisive fine at face. the international troops pecking up with the speed of light, the tally bonds, lightning offensive, heating them to enter kabul. then president asher kani, fleeing african troops, not fighting young africans clinging to airplanes. and then falling out of the sky,

who knows about blame for and of that very, very sad the, the manner in which the united states withdrew from, of careless so was disgraceful and insulting to us and also hurtful to the american people. the american people are good people, i know that i've been to america many times, so very, very kind to be a very hospitable people. so what the way things went wrong during those days would not, in our views reflect on the american people, but to reflect on their government and the military. the way the, the wrongly wrongly, wrongly did thinks the responsibility for that has to be accepted by all

sides by afghans. and by the international community. especially by the united states paving the way for the taliban returned to power was obviously the doha agreement signed in february 2020. between the united states and the taliban representatives. it was essentially not a peace agreement. it was a withdrawal. agree, yes, almost unconditioned labor. does abuse agreement, was it wrong to enter the door process and to sign it the way it was signed? i would have not conducted the do her talks the way they were conducted. i think i can be as, as concise on that as i just said. but out entirely agree with you that the do. her agreement was more than a withdrawal agreement. that a piece i think had there been the intention for a peaceful transition and i've got a son or a coalition between the taliban and the rest of the country. that would be great

for us for everybody. we would have not lost as much as we, as we lost the, the nation reserve. so the cont, 4 country, poor country like us to lose $7000000000.00. that's a lot of money for us. and the institutions and the military hardware and the civil services. and then the, the, the, the, her leaving off for hundreds of thousands of educated afghans, qualified highly educated men and woman women of our country. that's a huge, huge loss. that's a disastrous loss when you see the taliban flag at the presidential palace, which is not too far away from your residency. does it make your hot lead? no, no, it's the taliban flog there. now the government will have gone to sun. 3rd, our nice to flag is the, is the year her black,

red and green flood, which is the historic flag of again the sun, which has been there since the 1920s, at least. and any a government that wants to have her in national flag dictate for the country must do that through the lawyer journal gulf of garrison. this flag that is now on the palace, is the taliban on flag? you are the president of afghanistan from and 2002 to 2014, 12 long years. so really there's your name on the islamic republic. that is no more . if you honestly reflect and look back, where did you personally go wrong? i have made wrong choices during that time. well, i could have a good of me. oh quote number of mistakes. oh, if i go back and think about it, i could come to and say,

these would be the mistakes that i made. her probably i was to zealous on to walk with her on her i adopted the us model off her parliament. there were other issues as well that i may not choose to speak about. now, i can erase to you and you can choose as you want to talk amongst them. why not? i mean, the to that is always in the limelight yet east of western media ice, massive corruption, election raking and to decisive factors undermining the islamic republic. almost eating up from the inside. well, we're no, these 2 precisely were not our doing. how come the election was not drake by afghans. the election was strict. bye, bye bye. such an outside place. so it wasn't the for it of the a no, no, not at all. not at all. so what i can give you so many examples,

but i don't want to go there. now. i don't want to make an already bad impression of what some of the western countries did and of gas that even more worse. so you blame them for them. oh i you have evidence. i have evidence. there are people who would come and tell you, give you names of what certain wisdom individuals did some from the european union, some from the united states, some election officials that they brought or does a story, the thought so, sol, so deep in details documented or by us and we have had conversations about this, i can give you examples that there were like so many collections. so was it always a foreign hand or where did the wrong go wrong if you elections? look, this rigging of the afghan addictions began in 2009 and there was

choice to tell about that. let's not go into that now. i would love to by the way, i would love to this is the subject that, that daffodils know that i want our wisant audience is to know that corruption was already should which issue action was a huge issue. power divided into one local corruption, pity corruption. in day, in the provision of services, bribes was our, our hours and hours sponsibility. i take full responsibility for the pity, corruption. it did ministration, but the big corruption of millions of dollars and contracts was entirely foreign. and i must tell you, i began to suspect tours the end of my garment, not complete enough. i got it least above the, the mill years of my government that that was

a plant activity. your argument is that leading to the down fall, it's much more or maybe entirely the foreign hand than compared to the african political elite at the time. leading to the don fold is without a doubt in my mind more a foreign for matching nation. then the afghan one clearly, but let me also tell you believing in that i must also say that of course we, afghans have had our own responsibilities and we are not without responsibility. if we look at the situation now, the economy has all but collapsed. are nearly half the population, it is 20000000 people are experiencing high levels of food insecurity. what is the way out the way out is for strengthening unity among

afghans involving all the afghan pupil in the running of the country. afghan is, tongue, is the whole of all af counts. it does not belong to one group on one part or one element of the country. this country belongs to all afghans. therefore, this is a call on the thought of by that i make here. that they must, as i called them, brothers when the americans were bombing them. when there was this conflict, when some of us as well we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're calling for conflict and more war against that. i should know. there are brothers. and we must sit to go to have peace. now i called on the taliban as a brothers to consider all other afghans, brothers and sisters. even those who are against them, who may be thinking of resisting them, that,

that they must be contacted and brought back to a political process to a national dialogue. so we, afghans can, in unity and through the expression of the, one of the, of can people chart away towards a better future. this is a call of the taliban that i have repeatedly made. we call your brothers then. now you are in the garment, you call the others who are opposing for whatever reason, brothers, and bring them back and make it would have canister. afghanistan will never grow or be peaceful in disunity all in one, grabbing everything it not letting others, she know the international community straggling. how to engage with taliban, how much a they should provide to afghanistan, the national assets, about 7000000000 in the u. s. the loan as the fro there. so how do you feel about that? does not good. that's very objectionable. i referred to afghans

being victim. when we're talking of terrace. how can the united states government take money from one victim to give it to the other victim? you're referring to that was frozen as it's being used to give to the september 11th attack, make them the victims of september 11. we commiserate with full, we understand their pain. we understand they're suffering their loss. we know it better than any other nation because we have gone through the same ourselves. so how can the united states government take the money from a poor victim? from a greater victim from one from the one who has suffered a lot more and yet was allowed footer as well. and to dig from this victim, to give it to another victim, i would call and the victims of september 11. as someone who fully shared their pain, not to accept that money from a victim who's a lot porter, and

a lot deeper victim is half gonna stand last country? no, no, no, no, no, it's not a lost country. europe. well, emacs of history a mess of really of route to country in the world, among the oldest countries. and some of those issues in this part of the world are we will, we will be fine. this is a blue, a small one. in the, in the millenniums, a for history. this will go away and will be back on our feet and stroke. if afghanistan a country lost for women, no, just to his gentry. if have galveston as a country, just for women that will also be in afghanistan, lost itself. we shall never allow that. now again, we'll be able to educate. they will go to school. they will be engineers and doctors, and journalists, and in parliament. and do well the time will come and you will see it

directly and see. thank you very much for having us. good talking to you. thank you for talking to wonderful. wonderful with you. i'd like to wrap. no with it came out 2 days ago. now to take it. thank you very much. bye bye. a

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