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ah, as we take on the world 8 hours, i do all this. yes, we're all about the stories that matter to you. whatever it takes, 5 policemen follow me pain. you go here we are here is actually on fire made for mines. oh afghan has done august 2021. this documentary unravels the dramatic end of estate hearing from people who experienced it up close with the
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taliban are seizing control of afghanistan. the eyes of the world are on the capital airport, for desperate scenes unfold over the course of 2 weeks. general eons out is in charge of airborne brigade, one in germany, and responsible for evacuations. he's tasked with organizing and evacuation mission in afghanistan with hardly any lead time. so i thought it was fridays until august, 13th and north because i got a phone call that made it clear the initial plan had to be ready by mid day the next day. and he asked me really, columbus, the time pressure was unbelievable and garbage. what so i took that same day. however, germany's foreign intelligence service, the b and
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d reports. taliban leadership currently has no interest in military takeover of cobble take over of cobble before september. 11th. rather unlikely, the bond is fair. germany's armed forces is facing its largest ever evacuation mission to fly out germans and also afghans who are at risk combi line, which will we be able to fly in less what a security light lawn we are. in afghanistan, afghanistan, the taliban continue to advance on cobbled, cobble with enough guns in afghanistan, the taliban are on the verge of seizing power in berlin, it's becoming clear. the situation has been deeply misjudged. macos puzzle is asked to return from his summer vacation. he's germany special representative for afghanistan, few german diplomats know the country as well as he does. he's to become germany's ambassador in afghanistan for the 2nd time. his flight is scheduled for august 15th,
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but it never comes to that. the german embassy is being evacuated and minister some then foreign minister hi, co moss decided that i should go to doha and 1st and foremost and try to talk with the taliban, whom i already knew. jeff, when the goal was to talk about the prospects of leaving the country, especially for our local employees. the afghans who have for years worked for german organizations are now in danger. wherever the taliban is seizing control talks with a taliban are now critical to said them when cobble wakes up on the morning of august 15th 2021. the taliban are at the gates of the city president ashcroft. granny had vowed to defend cobble to the very end. we started the morning, not thinking that this is going to be the last day in cobble comed. alamo him is national security adviser. one of us rock gone, he closest confidence. he has bad news for the president. the afghan army has told
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him they cannot defend cobble. i had this heart to heart discussion with the military leaders. it was clear they didn't believe that was possible. the president didn't know that's what his military leaders were thinking. the problem was nobody wanted to sound weak because if any military leader was heard to say or any political leader was heard to say that this was not doable, it would immediately collapse. but there is one final plan to avoid chaos and bloodshed. now they're not every one of the afghan government's top negotiators is scheduled to meet the taliban in doha. i was booked on a flight on sunday morning on the 15th. ah, to, to go to door. thanks. looked very normal. and officer opened the gates and
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he was tired. he could see in his eyes that he of and slept for long probably couple of nights. ah, he recognized me. he said, sir, you are going to dor ha ha. and he, i say this too much. we have lost a lot. can you please find a way can you please find a way to end us? behind the scenes, the afghan government and the us are talking to the taliban hoping to strike a last minute deal as well as. gov would. it appears there really was a plan to have a 14 day transitional phase in which connie would remain in the presidential palace and arrange for an orderly transfer of power in duffy the taliban, agreed they would remain outside. cobble also have cobb was for blame. good. and then suddenly he hasn't made greg. he was coming in the us are gone. yeah,
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the president of thought of that is our left of gone aside. of ghana, stones president on israel gone, he was gone, his left to become free. has confirmed that the president, president, donnie of afghanistan, has left the country and then gunny was gone on at mid day on sunday. well that's what awesome. well, the news surprised even his closest aids, including the foreign minister and his chief of staff. he only took his innermost circle with him. mm hm. this is martin beck is the president's chief of staff at the time i could the after lunch, i could hear the wife. but i didn't talk this fellow kupta because that, that there was a lot of helicopter. but when i said a foreign affairs, he called me, he asked me where as a president, i told him person was with us, he went home. he said, no, he dunaway. and i couldn't believe him. i had no reason to believe because the panic was over. while the chief of staff is with others having lunch,
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the president pleased with his top security adviser. ready some of may have gone to lunch that wasn't understood who goes to lunch, that when the couple is about to collapse, but out from our understanding, do they do even those people have left so they are gone. and now i said every minute the situation changed. and anybody that was left old came with the president does. suddenly there was this power back. you and the americans and the taliban asked themselves, so what do we do now? when and they asked each other. yeah. are you going in now or are we gonna? and the americans presumably said, we're going to the airport now. we're not going into the palace. and from what i've heard, the americans probably agreed that the taliban could enter cobweb, contrary to the previous agree jobs. but gandhi's decision to flee by i'd rendered
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that no one void his sins. info's the ball. ah, the collapse of the government also leaps, sorry, forgot, sorry in great danger. at the time she had the department in the afghan defense ministry, a former mayor. she's one of the countries, few female politicians, and one of the youngest. she has been risking her life so that other women in her country are in power to shape their own lives and futures. now she finds herself having to flee. ah. i left my aunt 2016 yourself achievement them because my certificates my invoice cease document. eve would thing my a watts. even thing was there in every big cup. what we're just going to bring you these i live at exclusive pictures,
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more breaking news slides. the presidential palace watts you are looking at right now. is taliban fighters in the sites? the presidential power services, sir, these pictures explosive on the out 0 mm. of current last year was her clear collapse of christie, immediate collapse of they say. hm. it was it was, art, it was, it was, it was very, very hard. i saw all of them crumble down in front of it brought me suddenly to that realization. but would i be an exact person?
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ah news kind of pictures where you live this through the thing that that thousands of world cannot describe me. so how many people fleeing gown from their plates like barts that's, that's how african life of how a nation was desperate. because a nation was, was surrender to the wall. jack vick rushed in berlin officials are taken aback by the speed of these development fringes because it's in the it's alice to doing everything we can to ensure german citizens and former
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local employees can leave an hours riser to a move. no caffeine in will. meaning german and local employees are to be flown out from cobble airport, scuffed out flooring. the other. oh, this is some im jabari, one of those local employees. he worked for the german bonus for 4 years. it was his job to make the mission of the international troops more popular among the afghan people. to encourage them to fight against the taliban. he also accompanied afghan security forces on missions. when the taliban begins taking one afghan province after the other in summer 2021, he realizes he's in great danger. he's counting on the help of the germans to get him and his family out of the country. bundeswehr did very, but at the beginning they were ignoring us. however, in the beginning, while the other day leave afghanistan, we were asking them,
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but please evacuate does. but this plea goes unheard when the german armed forces end their years long. mission in afghanistan and june 2021. they leave behind the majority of their local employees, including some in jabari. according to the german crisis team, the situation and cobble is dramatic. taliban has effectively taken cobble. if it was chick points of tied up on all the way to the airport with district points. they were chicken goliad arsenal. so and my face was a little bit more fabulous. and my are ladder family members, so i had to hide what i did. i just i and all. oh as my husband to give me space at the between of his
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like fit at the down. oh of the call. so i sit down and then you know, whenever there was a chick point, my husband had a bag. he was splitting. got back on my hate. right. on my way, when i was like, you know, i was witness saying this seems happening to the city. how carla on are beating pupils, treating pupils evil words star live on their flags. that that moments like all my family, evil, one a 9 percent sitting in the car, avery, one was cry. even one from my younger brother to my mom and to my husband. that was
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very painful because what we struggled for, it was a beautiful, bright future. a beautiful by to day. but what we are have a is just running away and keeping ah, tie to love m a grand for you the only identity get you can carry it. ah, the biggest evacuation operation ever mounted by the bonus here does not get off to a smooth start. pictures like this go around the world. the americans manage to transport hundreds of people in one plane, putting the germans under pressure. but the us only give the german armed forces a very small window. you don't, you had to was like
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a german evacuation mission is underway, but it had a bumpy start. my quantity to neither bundle fair was only able to fly 7 people out of cobble in its big cargo plant. league sniffed. sometimes the discussion was a bit irritating in parts, and i've given the time that we had the conditions we faced us when we only had 30 minutes on the ground. so the clock was ticking as we landed or 30 minutes. then we had to be out, or else it didn't work, since the circumstances were very difficult and untrue. the dots on the situation changes on later flights. then the bond is there is able to fillets planes code as we i think it's important to remember. one thing of how this operation was depicted bought is not what the reality was like on the ground does. mostly our don't bussey it us. according to the german crisis team, we will not be anywhere close to evacuating of the people. approximately 13000 that we have on our lists by august 30, first thousands of afghan employees to leave for germany and many are waiting
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desperately at the airport. so i mean, jabari is there to the security forces. don't, don't let people go and you are hearing the voice of the weapon and it's impossible to go. and this is really hard and he keeps on trying to make his way through to the german troops to no avail. even though he has documents with them, including emails from the bond, is fail rate, a regular crime that i'm coming here. i see there are more than 10000 people or so i think there and different queues as impossible to go really far. when he finally makes contact with the german soldiers, he's turned away despite the paperwork he has with while they
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sent me an especially vanquish on letter. and that the we took the bus talk us and also we got inside the airport and our german soldier kicked us out with my wife and 2 sons of buck that this, the, he was saying that you are, your name is not on the list. the mood outside the airport is turning uglier by the minute with kicking and shoving, and families being torn apart on thoughts on keys, and these people were effectively fighting for the lives. i'll get it that way. they still smiling, and as a result, a fight of the survival of the fittest emerged in an increasingly ugly fashion at the airport as each day went by hot discretion to stack on. oh, room kinda of infant children were being passed from the back to the front of the crowd. i was young to know here was the child, but no family edmonds can. it's not let you can talk to. the child has will not have it's an infant as it's on. so we, i to reunite families and set up
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a meeting point soon together with other countries is very difficult. who could refuse? ah, woman zaps goosgo with her own eyes. people arguing over children, the 2 men tugging at either side of a child's arms because they each want to use him as a kind of entry tickets into the airport to garner sympathy and flu call from device. so knutson, mit light, so up, sorry, we witnessed these children crying on their arms practically being dislocated. little children, turning blue hubbard, viet we deserve kind. these are images will never forgets and below events. and he showed us, ah, how could it come to this such chaotic scenes after 20 years of military engagement in afghanistan? the seeds for this disastrous development were sown in doha. here in cutters, capital talks were intended to smooth the way towards ending the united states.
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longest war top afghan, american diplomats, zelma colonial said was negotiating with the taliban for then us president donald trump. well, he had come to a judgement like president obama had before him, that there was no military solution for afghanistan at their price that the us and nato was willing to pay. and the war wasn't going well. i was crossing the united states a lot, 40000000000 a year. that was too much, she believe. ah, vela bad wants to make a deal. we'll see if they want to make it feels got to be a real deal, but we'll say something about donald trump. donald trump wanted to end the war into he wanted to bring his troops back home. going, as i said, that to and bring back our all our boys spun lobbies. there are 2 main things. the
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americans can be criticized towards my belief, firstly that the afghan government was not included or. and secondly, that the allies weren't involved in whose name collier zak was always negotiate a rather bizarre with saw in the end, the u. s. agrees to withdraw all troops. the taliban commits to almost nothing in return. apart from peace talks with the afghan government. i think when they had signed to do a deal with the americans and they had no interest to negotiate with us, it did just have to talk with us for the sake of talk to mark the the, the boxes off the door had these, oh, they're talking with african daddy, bon, the taliban have a date, they know exactly when we're pulling out, so they'll sit tight and then take over the country. that's how it happened in the end that's in south of a con,
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talks to not start between the afghan government and the taliban until september 2020 the negotiations and doha, go on for months, but no peace deal emerges. in the meantime, there's a new president in the white house, but he too just wants out. timed in and america's longest war. it's time for american troops to come home. suddenly it becomes clear that germany, too, will need to pull out its troops very soon. in berlin, the ministries are at loggerheads. every one knows that local employees are essentially trapped. but how many are there? and how can they get b says, the ministry of the interior is digging its heels in. should the german government quickly dispatch charter plains, the german foreign ministry has qualms. afghan president, osh rough ghani has personally asked marcus puzzle, not to do so through. yeah. must the yeah, of course you don't was didn't you don't send in charter plan. so this is the,
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i'm thought it, i mean, if we were really worried that if we sent in charter plans and blew out local employees on massey, we have a responsibility towards there's no question about that than anyone who wanted to leave afghanistan would rush to the airport in a bit to do just that and turned on the sunset as in boy, yet this is exactly what happens just months later and august. by then the airport in cobble is a death drop. the german crisis team alerts warning. an attack will be carried out in the next 36 hours. we knew something would happen that day. we just didn't know where august 26th turns out to be the final day of the german evacuation operation and cobble on that day, thousands flocked to the airport again. the window of opportunity is closing against
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that backdrop. a suicide bomber blows himself up outside of the gates, killing almost 200 people. ah, ah, one day later german troops are back in germany after the 10 day operation. the book dismiss as it flew out 5347 people within that time. but it's just a small fraction of those that they wanted to get out. mm hm. the last u. s. troops left the country on august 30th under the cover of darkness, practically fleeing after 20 years. the war is over for the west, at least. but many victims remain and many open questions.
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ah, in the meantime, tommy jabari has managed to get out of afghanistan with the help of the german foreign ministry. he left the country by land via pakistan, a long journey full of manager for it. but the story, right. how likely the airplane, ah ah, i refill, sorry, fled to germany via a stumble. here she tells her story while still trying to support women in afghanistan from afar. for sally, my so i'm a sell last. i'm so my eyes and so lockable to
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accept their will cease. what's happening in my can't really me afghan women have once again been ordered to wear a berker on public. i'd have hardly any rights. older girls are not allowed to attend school. millions of afghans are going hungry. thousands of afghan employees who work for the german government are still stranded. ah, for my generation and my pupil, the pupil of my age, the builder was our self. and then when it was the time to enjoy our, our why cheese men, our struggle even gone with the taliban controls cobble. once again, was that really inevitable?
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in berlin, a parliamentary committee has been set up to investigate the failure of the afghanistan mission and its dramatic conclusion. this type c o, it's something you want to know. especially if you've spent a long time in that country working or training. and suddenly you see this as most is what happened to buffy. why did the security infrastructure collapse so quickly? and what about the forces that were trained not always given at on fasting fear, device involved what they lacked was the confidence, the willingness to fight. and the motivation that comes by trust them would be, but soon am the security forces basically surrendered the country to the taliban without a fight. i'm flores in the land. urgent have you been with us? and that came as something of a shock to maybe with his ang m, eyes on. so can i hold us the african politician responsible?
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the world came after $911.00. there was so much resources, so much willingness. what we did, we ask and i mean we have to come, we can just blame others and could i as one prevented all? no. but do i feel responsible for somebody who worked with that government? somebody who engaged with the international partners? i still yes. history will judge all of us and i think what happens is a disgrace. the fall of cobble has uprooted counseling, afghans including former senior politicians. now they are not very is living in exile and amsterdam unable to return to f, ganeth down. the same goes for martin beck who fled to washington, hummed,
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alamo. he spends most of his time in london, macos pachel sped longer and oh, how then originally planned meeting the taliban as a dream and envoy should he shouldn't been appointed un deputies special representative for afghan controllers. but as they have extensive control over the country, it's more so than any other government. in the last 40 years. we recognize that reality and are trying to stabilize the system so that people can live there and not die. the theme of the by so that they can survive. but of course that's a balancing act. that much is clear to him, the gods and the taliban are back there. not internationally recognized, but they are more powerful than ever. 20 years of war. only for the taliban to return to power once again in
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