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ah, as the war in ukraine rages on, pinprick stick to magic success is aimed at averting a catastrophe. the french president says, lottery potent has agreed to an independent inspection at europe's biggest nuclear power plant, which is currently under russian occupation in the middle of a war zone. meanwhile, the head of the u. n. is in odessa or 10 more grange ships are ready to set sail under a un broker deal aimed at averting a global food crisis. small success dwarfed by the distant goal of ending the bloodiest war in recent european history on nickel, furnish in berlin. and this is the day ah,
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with russian officials keep threatening or dis, are in other cities and ukraine. we see what is happening and separation. the police get a regime is quoting a highly publicized publication. it's appreciate during the visit of you in chief terrace. going over the united states condensed and the strongest terms, rushes, reckless disregard for nuclear safety and security. ah, also coming up on the day as russian bombs rained down, ukrainians are trying to save their cultural heritage by making digital copies. i hope this project will significantly help ukraine, and it's future generate longer because it's a historical monument,
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a sculpture or historical building is destroyed and it will be possible to restore it. oh, disaster not averted, at least not yet. the situation remains 10, surround europe's biggest nuclear power station, and please for d, escalation abound as the head of the united nations visits the southern port city of odessa, antonio terrace has read a rated his calls for a demilitarized saved zone around the russian occupied upper region. nuclear facility, russia and ukraine accused each other of shelling the complex and planning act of sabotage. their cave also claims. russia is planning to cut electricity produced an upper regia from its power network faced with a prospect of some 4000000 ukrainians. being left in the dark terrace had a clear message for moscow. obviously,
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the electricity from some footage. yeah. use ukrainian electricity and the it's necessary, especially during the winter ford of ukrainian people and these people must be fully respected. so all eyes on this upper region nuclear power plan dw xian. phillips shots has more on the situation there. well, after days of horrible news, there are some potentially good news. so during a phone call with a friend president my car hootin agreed to a mission of international inspectors at the power plant. this is remarkable because he seems to agree to ukrainian demands to let the inspectors travels through ukrainian or controlled territory. so this is a huge, a step forward. of course we have to see if he will really stick to this announcements. there have been very many misleading announcements in the past,
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and in the meantime, a situation at the power plant remains highly dangerous. a lot of international experts say that it's not only the shelling of the plan that is so dangerous, but also the increasing risks are increasing risk of potential power cuts that could lead to a serious overheating of the reactors. where for disastrous consequences, let's not forget the real reason, the terrorist visit and odessa grain. millions of tons remain stuck in the port city. our shipments starting to pick up pace. yes, there's also some good news in this regards. the grain deal seems to be holding for more are around $230.00 ships have left the ukranian part so far and more ships will leave the parts in the coming days. it's actually a big success for the secretary general gutierrez,
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and during his visit at the parts of odessa, he made it clear that he is very proud of the united nation. so a contribution to it. he said that odessa is actually a symbol of what the world so it can it, she for when it's working together for a common good and good terrorist. when that deal was struck actually said that it might have been the most important deal of his career. the u. s. is announcing a new military aid package. what can you tell us about that? yes, the pentagon just announced another $800000000.00 aid package. it's basically a package of military assistance. it includes ammunition, how, which serves the drones for a equipment against my and a lot of military equipment. and it comes at a time when a lot of military experts say that the war has reached
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a strategic debt law. and so russia has serious problems with amunition or with this you package, the united states have contributed more than 10000000000 us dollars in military aids, to the ukranian war, answer to a fight, cheer in ukraine. young fell of shouts with the latest from odessa. thank you. and for more, let's turn now to kurt fokker. he is a former us ambassador to nato and a former u. s. special representative to ukraine. he is currently a distinguished fowler at the center for european policy analysis and he joins us now from washington. d. c. mr. fokker, welcome to the day. it's good to see you. the grain deal was the 1st and so far only made her diplomatic success in the war, but turkey in the u. n. c. it as a 1st step towards a negotiated solution to the entire conflict. ukraine says,
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well, only talk of russia withdraws. how do you see it? well, i think that's exactly right. buddha has given no indication that he intends to withdraw from ukrainian territory. it is true that his forces have had a hard time advancing lately and even taken some hits against ammunition depots and things. so there may be some desire for boot and to negotiate and, you know, get agreement to keep what he's taken. but i, i really don't believe ukraine will do that. i also think that the great deal is very important as your report indicates, but it was also only possible after ukraine redox make island and created a safe corridor where they could pastor ships to the west of the island out to the mouth of the black sea so there is a military component to that which basically forced russia to recognize that you're going to do it. i want to look at that military component because yesterday i spoke to the former ukrainian ambassador to austria, listen to some of what he told us and then keep talking
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a real chance for the listening piece would be the moment when we start pushing, pulling back from our territory that would be the moment when fields you losing the losing this war and that will be the moment when you decide to really give diploma to mr. fokker, do you believe military force is the only thing that will push russia to the negotiating table? well, it's the minimum, i think he's absolutely right. that won't even consider negotiating anything serious unless there is military force pushed back against them and their forces are losing. but even then what we'll try to achieve is gaining more territory in ukraine than he had before. he'll want to claim some conquests on victory and ukrainians will not do that. they will not agreed to see part of their territory taken away by russia just as any other country, whether it's germany or the united states would ever agree to just have our
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territory conquered. does ukraine no currently have enough military force to achieve any of that to either a 4th, to the negotiating table or to push russia out of it? sovereign territory? the tide of turning, not quite there yet. russia is no longer able to advance militarily. they can lob dumb bombs, they don't have a lot of guided munitions anymore, but they're not able to take even the rest of don bos, let alone advanced further elsewhere into ukraine. ukraine, meanwhile, is making very good years of the precision guided munitions and artillery that the u. s. was provided along with others, and this is taking out of russia and ammunition depots, fuel storage, food storage, rail lines, bridges. and this is making it very, very difficult for the russians to supply their forces. and once those forces are stranded out there in the field, the russians are going to have to consider,
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do they do they need to pull them back? or else they will be unable to really hold the position that they're in. you say the ties are turning. there has been lots of speculation about the recent strikes on crimea. leadership in kia remains, coin didn't ukraine blow up the saki or field? no ukraine has not confirmed that i don't think any of us sitting here can say with certainty. but i think what we should say and say very clearly, is that a tax on russian forces in crimea are no different than a tax on russian forces elsewhere in ukraine. whether they're outside of keys or whether the dom boss, all of our country is recognized, crimea as part of ukraine. and the russian forces have no business being there. but cave has never struck that far into russian hill territory. so this, this is quite remarkable actually, if it was a key of authorized mission, i would say the us, let's talk about that is playing
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a key role in getting weapons donated by allies to ukraine. you know, nato quite well, why isn't the alliance doing that? well, there are several reasons early on. i think several countries in nato were afraid of farming ukraine because it would just need to conflict with russia, not recognizing that russia was held back on the conflict anyway. so it is just a matter of helping ukraine survive. another reason is that many nato countries have not invested in their own armed forces over many, many years. and so they have very little to give. and then a final reason is because they have very little to give their trying to harbor some national defense forces of their own. just in case because nato's job is also to defend nato country territory, even though we would like to help you. great. now this war and doesn't look like there will be an outcome, a solution,
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or that it will be decided in the battle field in the foreseeable future. how long are the united states going to remain as resolute as they are and their support for ukraine? well, i can only quote word secretary lincoln and us and bastard ukraine. bridget brinkets said repeatedly, which is regard to help you crying as long as it takes. now why hope that it doesn't take a very long time, but what we're seeing now is ukraine likely able to take back some of the territory in harrison before the winter sets, and it'll be a very tough winter for the russian forces. and then i think we'll see more fighting again next year. i hope that the ukrainian variable to use the time to regroup and rebuild. but doing that means getting the economy on a stronger footing. and that's both the power supplies that un secretary general gutierrez, was talking about getting the port open as we've been talking about. and also
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trying to make sure that there is a revival of a basic economy and ukraine beyond just the micro economy for the us public though this is a conflict that is very far away. how long can the cost be justify to a public worried about inflation, their own cost of living and the political future of their country? it is an issue here. you hear it on the far left and you hear it on the far right that they don't think we should be spending all this much money or for how long the question should we be sending this amount of money. but overall, the majority of the population here very supportive ukraine. this is one of the few clear cut cases of outright aggression from a basically an evil regime. the regime that is deliberately targeting civilians committing war crimes, raping women, showing maternity hospitals. there's tremendous support in us public for supporting ukraine, and it's actually been the public and the congress that has pushed and the administration
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has been slower and reactive in dealing with. but you know, we know what sign we're on of course. but discontent is brewing here. and there, here in germany as senior politician, just demanded that the north stream to gas pipeline be opened. he was quickly shot down, but those voices are there. where does the western unity of purpose stand? well, i'd say it's pretty good right now. the fact that there are voices out there means that we are democracies and any one to the point of view can express it. of the vast majority of people recognize the stakes for europe in europe, security in russia being defeated, the kind of imperialism and ideology that represents now trying to exterminate a whole people. that's exactly the same kind of ideology that brought us world war 2. and so if we want to avoid a water war and something's more dangerous for all of us, it's important that wouldn't be stopped in your car. fucker distinguished fellow at
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the center for european policy analysis. thank you so much for your time. thank you for russia is taking punitive measures against 5 foreign id companies for violating online content laws. the country state communications regulator says it'll target tick tock, telegram, zune, discord, and pinterest this after or facebook. instagram and twitter were blocked earlier this year. the russian government accused them of failing to remove content that they have flag to as illegal. russia has find several text firms for similar breaches in the past. it is also worn sights against violating a law path in early march, aimed at preventing independent reporting on russia's war in ukraine. and let's bring in justin sherman. he's a non resident fellow at the atlantic council cyber state craft initiative, mr. sherman. good to see you with independent media, heavily censored, and russia. what role does social media play as
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a source of trustworthy information for people there? social media plays a critical role. as you said, the domestic press environment in russia has been heavily repressed for decades. and it's getting even worse in the past few months, journalists are at immense physical risk for saying anything that goes against the kremlin. and so for those in russia who were looking to get alternative information or to, you know, share alternative opinions or get facts on what's happening on the ground ukraine. they're looking to tick tock. they're looking to facebook, they're looking to you too. and so that's exactly why the kremlin is targeting these foreign platforms because they are that source of information that contradicts the state line. we don't know just yet how they are targeting these platforms, but were they to shut them down?
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tech savvy people tend to find loopholes and work around stone. they what can russia do to stop tick tock and it's users took a question. so the russian government is not very technical when it comes to internet censorship. the penultimate example is in 2020. the russian parliament made it illegal to use telegram and then for 2 years you had this incredibly botched, frankly, a little bit embarrassing attempt to block telegram during which you know, many people continued to use telegram and even government officials would continue to use telegram. and so instead of relying on that more technical kind of censorship and filtering, you get a lot of offline coercion. this looks like speech laws, this looks like the threat of arrest. this looks like physical force used against tech company employees against citizens who post things on line. and so when the
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government talks about targeting these companies, they might block some sites. as you said, there are vpn and other ways to get around those restrictions. but what it probably looks like in practice is increased targeting of the people using those platforms, and anyone they can get to in the region surrounding russia. that's helping to work on those platforms. now, let's compare russia to china. the great firewall, as it's nicknamed works because it can also offer its own alternative services power. russian attempts at a sovereign internet pending out they're not going well. we've heard this talk of a domestic russian internet for about a decade now. and in 2019 to didn't put to paper and actually moved to this into law saying essentially, we want a domestic internet. that with the flip of a switch, we can cut off from the rest of the world. and habits still work internally. you
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know, turns out the gap between saying something you like and getting it done is huge and the state has really struggled to get there for variety of reasons. as i said, the governments filtering capability is not the same as it is in china. in china, the actual underlying backbone of the internet is much more centralized. it's very diffuse in russia. and so if we think of bridges going into an island city in china, there are just a few of those bridges. it's easier to put people on them to monitor what's happening. it's very different in russia, and so the actual exercise of technically controlling, let alone isolating the internet is really, really difficult. and it's something the state has not been able to do successfully, tremendously interesting stuff. just ensure that the atlantic council side were state craft initiative. thank you so much. thanks for having me. ah rushes war on ukraine has not only displaced
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millions of people and wrecked entire cities. it has also laid ways to ukraine's one rich cultural heritage. indiscriminate shelling of civilian era is damaged or destroyed countless historic building museums and religious sites. but a new project promises to keep ukraine's culture safe, at least in digital form. russia's missiles threaten ukrainians, lives, and also their cultural fabric. for months, volunteers have been working to save ukraine's heritage from russian attacks. now a new digital project offers a different way to preserve that heritage. 3 d scanning up back up ukraine, turns ordinary ukrainians into digital archivists. the app turns their photos into 3 d models and on tag to their precise location and save to a secure online database in the cloud. where now bombs can reach
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architect and key of resident maxim, communion has already contributed more than 100 smartphone scans to the project. yes, would you like a paper due to the warning? i hope this project will significantly help ukraine would and its future generations. oh you know you could say vanya because if a historical monument a sculpture, no were historical building is destroyed, it will be possible to restore it in the same material and size. everything can be identical. one of the, in fiji. so even if art works are destroyed, they won't completely disappear. the apps founders want to safeguard ukraine's culture from the horrors of war. it can be used the thought of as a reference for, for reconstructing. it could be used as a constant form and can also just be used as a form of documentation. i got the form of preservation. that is,
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it technically will last for ever downloaded more than $6000.00 times. the app is on its way to preserving ukraine's irreplaceable cultural heritage. oh, your of has been enduring a persistent hint way for weeks with temperatures topping 40 degrees celsius in several countries. the extreme conditions have fueled wild fires intensifying droughts and contributed to thousands of heat related deaths and our next report our correspond and guna coon and travels to the greek capital athens to see how authorities there are dealing with the heat. alaneese mirror villi always has her water bottle with her in summer. she's used to the dangerous heat waves in her home city. she is the 1st chief heat officer in athens and across europe. it's her job to get the greek capital fit to face the challenges of climate
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change. she's on her way down into the depths of the city with someone from athens waterworks. it's also a journey back in time. the subterranean tunnel, almost 20 kilometers long, was built by the roman emperor hadrian. in the 2nd century, mira really is planning to have water flowing along hadrian aqueduct. again, engineers are already working on her idea. they are planning to grieve. 20 specific points where the, where they tap into the water into the green new parks. a green belt across athens is intended to make the city cooler and the pleasant mere villi once more parks. she is particularly proud of these japanese style space. she is friends with the landscape gardener who created it. we don't have a lot of barks and, and green spaces. and we have a lot of old people. the fact that the surfaces are we have
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a lot of surfaces that plan to heat up. we have a lot of cars that produce even more heat and air conditioning and produces even morrissey. so it's actually a pretty deadly mix enough in greece, extreme heat waves with highs over 40 degrees are almost always accompanied by forest fires. and they also threatened the capital. in mid july fire reached athens in northern city limits. dozens of homes would gutted. experts fear that large parts of the city, home to 4000000 people could be uninhabitable in a few days. studies already showed that heat waves are responsible for a rise in mortality among the elderly. in particular, the chief heat officer is seeking advice from the red cross, red cross representatives from australia explain, they have their own emergency plan. when temperatures reach up to 50 degrees, we are preparing people to be able to help eh,
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people before they get really sick. so that we can tell them what to do and if they start having symptoms, somebody is there that can answer a phone or can be next to them to help them. so they don't end up in the hospital. but not all athenians see it as a life threatening problem and i found amok if i feel dizzy or think i'm going to vomit. i just stick my feet in cold water. oh, are you on at all? but you know, now things is more and more unbearable in summer. we don't have any rivers and the surrounding area has usually already been scorched. mirror really is planning to stick by her home city. after all, she says it's hardly the 1st crisis that the city has faced in its practically 4000 year history. the day is almost done, but as always, the conversation continues online. we're looking forward to hearing from you on twitter, if make sure to follow our team under the w news and myself, nicole underscore friday. but for the time being for me and all of us here at the
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