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ah, her name was doria digging him. she was killed saturday evening in near moscow. in a car explosion today rush, a secret police blamed ukraine for her murder. keep calling that total fiction to gain his father is alexander duke, a hardline champion of the invasion of ukraine. his influence at the kremlin once earned him the name hooton's brain. it's believe the car bomb may have been intended for him. and for the return to russian empire he represents. i'm broke off in berlin. this is the day ah, why doogan or his daughter? i'm well, they are no one people day alternation list. they support this war,
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but they are not. number one targets, she's very after political person, she to 30 is all to top member of do against new, not the party for the propaganda operators. this is next of intimidation elise, but it's not the ukraine and special forces style to kings to kill someone like that. in russia, at those it is no longer an abstract hole that you watch on tv. this is happening in russia. also coming up gay sex is no longer a crime in singapore. but it won't end discrimination against the l g b t community. however, some say it is a step in the right direction. i do realize we are moving to a very different society. a society hopefully did eligibility i q cl points can dream of a possibility? ah, when to our viewers are watching a p
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b s in the united states and do all of you around the world welcome. we begin the day with the assassin nation of a pro kremlin voice. and what that tells us, if anything, about the stability of vladimir putin, russia, on saturday, the rio de gave them the daughter of a prominent russian nationalist, died when a bomb went off inside her car. today, russia's spy agency, the f. s. be blamed the murder on ukrainian state sponsored terrorism. he has denied any involvement. now some say the real target was gina's father, alexander doogan, a champion of imperialist russia, and an outspoken critic of the west with the invasion of ukraine considered anything but a success. have pro kremlin pro putin ties, have they suddenly become a liability, even lethal inside russia. we'll discuss that and more in just
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a moment. the 1st we have this report this video shared by russian security services claims. a female ukrainian special services contractor was behind a car bomb attack that killed jonas dire de geena. on the outskirts of moscow on saturday. they say the alleged ukrainian women moved to russia last month and had followed mister keena in a mini cooper. she then escaped to estonia after the blast, but ukrainian officials are denying the accusations as propaganda. good, richard, it grows the shoe crown slowly doesn't have anything to do, was yesterday's explosion because we're not a criminal state. we're not a terrorist states each other's role. but miss deacons, killing has also sparked wider speculation. the national republican army, an unknown group, is also claiming responsibility for the attack in a statement read by a former russian law maker and now host other ukrainian online use show. the group threatened more attacks on people with connections to the kremlin. daria dicky now
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died at the scene after an explosive device installed in her toyota land cruiser went off, and the car caught fire at us. believe her father, alexander dubin may have been the target. alexander dickon was meant to travel in the car but reported the later changed his mind. both duke and and his daughter will on their way to moscow after they attended a cultural festival spare. alexander, duke, and is a staunch and i of russian president vladimir putin. and a far right philosopher and older, his daughter was also a prominent member of the ultra nationalist movement supporting roches invasion of ukraine, of you through a 30 called for genocide, healthy grainy, and she called ukrainians. her soft human raised she called for public. ah, public killings all the cranium, prisoners of war, et cetera. so yes, she's a good against daughter bought. she is, 1st of all, a very active member of our russian a fall right nationalist, new nazi our influential scene. meanwhile, president putin has he,
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tribute to mister keena, calling her death a vile and cruel crime. my 1st gifts to night is sergey rud, jenko. he is an author in cold war and russian historian. he is also a professor at john tompkins school of advanced international studies. he joins me tonight from cardiff in the u. k. professor, it's good to have you with us on the day to night. the russian secret service the fs beat. it has accused ukraine of this assassination. what do you make of that? a very, very dubious look, obviously just a few days have passed and all kinds of versus at fuller for a proliferation. the version that ukraine was responsible was one of the, was the one that the russian propaganda embraced very eagerly even before the f b came out with their latest statement. of course. now the propaganda will switch on and go into the steam very eagerly, blaming everything. am keith, but i,
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i remain highly, highly dubious with, with the one thing that is, is, is very difficult to, to prove. what do you make of this group calling itself the national republican army? it claimed responsibility for the attack. right? nobody has ever heard of this a national republican army until now. and when i read the statement, i also saw that the statements and the army itself, such as that, it claims to be, are extremely dodgy, frankly. so there is not much to make of this at this stage. so you know, we had that organisation claiming responsibility. we had the f, b blaming ukraine. some are saying that f s b self could be responsible for this could also be private actors and the reality is will probably not know. just remember that one, but his name was killed gun down in the or the crab one. it took a very,
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very long time for the boat, for, for the russian government to come up with an answer and then never actually did never actually properly did. and suddenly 2 days after the been, they say, oh yeah, this is ukrainian. i just frank would find this claim completely unconvincing. and it would, it would seem that ukraine would be the, the obvious corporate through the eyes of the kremlin. but what about inside washer talked to me about possible tensions within the country that could have led to this kind of attack? well, we, we do not know. we know, of course, that russia is fighting a war in ukraine. that is not going well for russia. it ends it's dragging on and on and, and that creates a situation of political uncertain moscow. we know there's some, some thing, you know, things like that explosions like that. there an indication that something is
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happening behind the scenes in the shadows that we're, we're not aware exactly what's happening, but it, this is clearly an indication of some sort of an internal struggle. it seems to me, at least a, it's, it's suggestive off a, something of a, of a kind of political instability which of course was precipitated by this war and ukraine. yeah, and you know, there are many who believe that alexander do good was the intended target of this car bomb. would that be because of his outspoken position on imperialism and russia . and his perceived influence that he had on kremlin policy in ukraine meet was someone seeking to punish him for what is happening right now? well i oh, of course do get a fairly well known he is. he's probably better known in the west than he is in russia. he's and an advocate of basically quite blayton russian imperialism
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in the ration to political space. and some people have linked his thinking to put, and i personally do not thing that needs to do again to pursue war and ukraine. there is no evidence whatsoever that duke and contributed in any kind of way to points. decision making, s t m least this war against ukraine, so i think would do can statement is or dickens influences over stated, needs overstated. a so, so yeah, you know, could he be a target? we don't know, could his daughter be a target? who is also a nationalist and has been seen all kinds of very, very aggressive, very nasty things about ukraine, that is also possible. but it's all very murky. it is murky and, but you have to wonder, is vladimir putin this evening? is he worried about his grip on power?
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and is he worried about stability in the country when he looks at what happened this weekend? is his role is whether we're putting himself is he threatened by this attack? and we just don't know the reason we cannot say with any degree of certainty, because we do not know who actually was the perpetrator of this attack. it's interesting, for example, to reflect that in 1099, a student came to power. he of course, came to power in the wake of apartment bombings in russia. them permitted, couldn't to launch a war in chechnya, and some have since suggested. those were actually staged by the, by the russian security services. we don't know yet. there's a lot of, there's a lot of uncertain here. so if the russian security services are behind this, then you would imagine that wouldn't, is perhaps not threatened by this. if ukraine is behind the, perhaps we may, things of this suggest that is search security services are so incompetent that
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they allow this sort of things to happen. you know, you and i are able to ponder the possibilities here. that is not the case for journalists inside russia, and i'm wondering how do you see the ability of the russian public to perceive what is going on? and is the kremlin really have complete control over how people are talking about this as a nation. unfortunately, criminal will have a great degree of control and we saw that even before the f as the state in the, when the russian propaganda kicked in and said that and in this on the ukrainians. and of course, the narrative that they try to project is that key if it's pursuing some sort of terrorist activities in russia, which then serves to justify russia's own policy towards ukraine. and as bruce a war in, sadly a lot of people who live inside this bubble, they buy into this kind of this kind of narratives. and this, you know,
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it's very difficult for them to scape the sort of propaganda. so what will they learn from this? they will learn that, that key affairs carrying out a terrorist attacks in, in russia and of course, will as a result, believe even with greater will delete pudding with greater conviction. perhaps you know, this is, this is how i would eat, at least i think the russian propaganda is thinking professor, 2nd ra jenko. helping us understand that when we talk about russia and ukraine, we can't always believe our eyes professor, thank you. thank you for having the police in pakistan had filed a terrorism charges against former prime minister in bron con. he threatened to sue pakistan's, police inspector general, and a judge during a speech that he gave over the weekend. now, the countries media watched all has as
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a result band of the broadcast of live addresses by con, accusing him of heat speech, hundreds of his supporters and now surrounded his home in the capital islamic bod, to try and prevent the police from arresting him for more than this i'm joined now by our salon colleague. he's a journalist in is alma bonded good to have you with this. what's the situation right now? it is what i'm about. well, thank you for having me. the situation has come down since the court has drawn to 3 days of being too long to do. what yes, there was a unrest last night when the case was disappearing against him and there was a chance that the police were properly addressed in. so our goal was given by the of his party to ship to the people, to reach outside his residence, where we saw that in no time under 2 people were gathered and did remain there till the morning. though there was no made by the police to rest on and today he was
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granted the 3 days failed to post. i mean, you know, from the outside, this is, is quite an, an outrageous shocking turn of events. you've got a former prime minister who was being charged with an act of terror ridge of put that into context though for pakistan and its political establishment. well, this is not the 1st time that he saw. he is facing these charges up back in 2014. during his protest he was and he not only in but his other party members were charged into the c max off debt. it isn't. and there was an alleged attack that was made on 2 important building. one was the parliament of august on and the other was one state television. the case been gone for 6 years and he got his equipment. why be prime minister pockets on the back in october of 2020. so this is not the 1st time he's going to face these charges. and this is kind of
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a common practice in boxes on dipping several cases under the debt. is them act on different particular leaders and political focus? enron con, versus the government. that's what this could be described as what, what are the chances in your opinion, a vis metastasized thing and, and turning into something that could become violent. i mean, do you think that the guard rails right now for the judicial system but also from civil society? are those guard rails strong enough to withstand this? well, as i said earlier, con, enjoys popular court and the support is off. the you focused on the war charged and they're ready to do anything for con, yesterday with, you know, there was this used at least might, didn't rest on the workers would want to talk. and the leadership is political
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party made it very clear. and they said that they're going to take what would the capitalist if any rest is me. so it's not too easy for the proceedings to happen. and it's not easy. or to calm down, is the populace or that he's in joint right now? so things aren't going to be bit tricky. let me just ask before we run out of time, where does the military stand on all of this? does that have been a silence by military on this put in last to do that? no student i, i used to be done and this is a complete silence and it's just like at the moment it is like between the government and iran. con journalist are so long and county joining us tonight from islam of odd. we appreciate your reporting. thank you. ah, activists in singapore have welcomed the government's announcement to day that it
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plans to decriminalize sex between men, the reversal of a colonial era law known as section 377, a comes after years of campaigning by gay rights groups. but d criminalization does not mean equality. the government now says it also plans to amend the constitution to make it impossible for same sex couples to mary lou. a surprise announcement by cinnapool as prime minister met with jubilation and applause. the rolling back of a law that made sex between men punishable by up to 2 years in jail, singapore and still have deferring views on whether homosexuality is right or wrong . but most people, except that a person's sexual orientation and behavior is a private and personal back. and that sex between men should not be
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a criminal offense. the move has been welcomed by many who say it's time to bring the law up to date. actually i've got a lot of different so i kind of feel that it is something that is still be justifiable while the colonial air, a low band sex between men, l g b, t q group said the law amounted to state sanction discrimination against the entire gay community ah, it means singapore joins a growing list of asian nations including india, thailand, and taiwan, to liberalize their laws and homosexuality. but following pressure from religious groups, the government says it has no plans to change his legal definition of marriage as
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being between a man and woman. some rights groups disappointed what the government has done is to say that discrimination against l. g b, c p. both is acceptable. cementing discrimination in the supreme law, singapore has huge for other other kinds of life and other policy which affect l. g b. so while repeating the ban on gay sacks is being hailed as a triumph of love as a thea rights groups will in the lion city, still has a long way to go to full equality. maria should and is the executive director and outright action international that is a group advocating for human rights for l. g b teeth. i chew people across the globe bree, it's good to have you on the program to night. we've got a situation in singapore,
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that's a, it's, it's kind of a double edged sword, isn't it? we've got the government saying that sex between men is no longer crime. and at the same time, it says it plans to amend the constitution to make it impossible for same sex couples to get married. yeah, but i still think we have to celebrate those as far as victor, it is an incredibly important step that singapore is now reading itself of the colonial era law that has been in place for you know, almost a 100 years even though there we know that there is still a long way to go to protect full equality for anybody to people anything up or talk to me a little bit about the legacy of colonial legislation in the oppression of the l. g. b. teach you community. we know that in the 20th century, when we had former british colonies who were gaining their independence, they were taking laws that came from some of the most homophobic legislation that
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was ever passed by the u. k. are we still dealing with that in these former colonies? yeah, absolutely same sex relations are a crime in almost 70 countries. and in almost all of the situations, it is a result of penal codes that were originally were imposed by colonial powers. and so, while this number is slowly decreasing, most recently, there was a court decision in antigua bar, buddha that overturned the colonial era. pino code there. and of course now we have the announcement in singapore from yesterday. so there is a slow movement towards the criminalization. not everywhere. there's also an ongoing backlash in some places, but overwhelmingly, you know, we see countries one by one in the slow sort of a slow trickle decriminalize. and i have to say that none of this ever comes
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without community organizing that. we're organizations and activists are pushing for this change and creating and building a change in societal attitudes. also, you think courts strategically similar to what was happening in singapore. there have been court cases that did not decriminalize in that case, but that had been building towards this announcement to decriminalize in singapore . and i think that knowing that the active isn't that goes into it, it's not something that happens suddenly. no one is sort of, i think, surprised when, if you are following these issues, you're not surprised when something like this happens. because you had seen the years and decades of active as that has gone into creating that change. if we look at all of asian, taiwan remains the only country where same sex marriage is legal. so what does this
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move by singapore? what does it signal or how does it fit in to church to this pro progression if you will, knowing that the criminalization is a critical, maybe not a 1st step necessarily. i mean, you can have some recognition actually overrides, even without the commercialization, but it is an incredibly important step, even in a situation like singapore, where people weren't necessarily arrested for them. you know, for committing a crime. it still has a very chilling effect on people's lives. and it's hard to move beyond and secure, you know, full equal rights and non discrimination in schools of workplace. it's even in families if you live under this kind of colonial, you're a law. so i think of course, it's not very unfortunate that the singapore and prime minister announced that he wants to impose
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a ban on same sex marriage even though marriage wouldn't necessarily been sort of the next legal step that people would absolutely be asking for. of course, is a bad sign to already start to say, well, you know, we're not going to grant full rights in, in we are talking about of a part of the world. we're l g, b, t, g rights and protections are not high of the agenda perhaps even were the opposite of the case. i mean, just consider what the taliban has done in the last year in afghanistan and considering all of that. what is your message to people tonight who are watching from japan, to the philippines to vietnam? what would you like for them to take away from the news today? i mean, l t p i q. people exist everywhere. and so our human rights and the protection of them, they need to be on the agenda everywhere and organizing the t i. q activists to
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push for the for that recognition. that is really, in my opinion, the best way forward. and i mean, outside we have over 30 years experience working on these issues that we have seen a lot of progress in the time. even though there is still a lot of backlash and in some cases, almost no conversation at all. but we have seen how there are more and more countries where these or get where people are organizing and they're starting to push for their rights. and there is no doubt in my time that you know, eventually we will get there for, for every corner of the world we exist everywhere. and so of course, we have to have our rights recognize everywhere. maria is here to executive director at outright action international. we're, we're out of time. we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you. thank you so much. the day's almost done. the conversation continues online, you're fine, you're on twitter, you can follow me on twitter at rent. gov tv, every member, whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see that
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