ah ah ah ah ah, this is dw news lie from berlin. russia bids farewell to former leader mikhail gorbachev. crowds lined up in moscow to see the last leader of the soviet union lay to rest. but there'll be no state funeral. the man, some russians reject as a trade gas from shuts down,

gas applies to germany indefinitely. russian energy john says the notary one pipeline will stay online or offline, rather blaming maintenance. europe says that's a foss and you pay offers to send europe more electricity bill visible than welcome. the last leader of the soviet union mikhail gorbachev is being laid to rest at a ceremony in moscow which died on tuesday at the age of $91.00. after a long illness crowded lining up in moscow to see the former president lying in state at moscow's old of columns, but he has not been given a full state funeral, usually helpful for leaders. russian president vladimir putin will not attend, citing a full schedule. most west leaders are also staying why? because of invasion of ukraine on gary in prime minister victor oberon is expected to be in moscow to pay his last respects a curse on an uber chateau lived in russia the past 7 years. he joins us now from riga. uri,

how is russia sank of by to they law? soviet leader. well after the ceremony that is now taking place mikhail gorbachev will to bury it in the early afternoon at an of a devotee cemetery next to his wife for a 2nd. but over it's not unusual band and russia that, that, that, that a barrier to within 3 days. so we shouldn't be surprised why gorbachev is buried so quickly. all those impression could arise that, that, that the kremlin wants to deal with this as quickly as possible. because gorbachev, of course, stands for a completely different political system for a completely different value system than the current president of russia. let me put a stance on that. gorbachev is not being buried in the kremlin wall, like in all he is. so soviet predecessors, that was presumably his last veal, he was often seen at the grave of his wife or i usa who died of cancer in 1999. and it was important to leon gorbachev to be buried next to her

a gorbachev uh was seen as so much more in the west. ah, his legacy in the folk former soviet states is quite mixed. so let's have a quick look back at his political life liberal 30th yearbook in mikhail gorbachev . his 1st speech as leader of the soviet union. it was clear he was a stark contrast to his predecessors one year we had for you as the war to write. i live in peace and freedom as the most am hoffman basic right of each individual for our kilobit. gorbachev wanted to change the soviet union to bring it closer to the people. he promoted glass, nest openness and perestroika reforms to words that will forever be associated with hen. his new outlook was popular with many his policies also applied to the military. despite the resistance of soviet

generals issued to us. here we are, voters, all, unless i'm convinced that we will also have to reform our military. we have far too many weapons, love, sickly. we have to seek dialogue with other superpowers and reduce our arsenals to a reasonable extent, yourself. as a result of that dialogue. gorbachev and you as president reagan find the 1st of many disarmament treaties in 1987. it was the beginning of the end of the cold war in october 1989 when he visited east berlin for the ged ars 40th anniversary celebrations. gorbachev urged eric hanukkah to implement reforms. he warned the eastern leader saying, life punishes those who come to late a month after his visit. the berlin wall fell and with it the iron curtain that had

divided europe for decades. it was gorbachev's, reformist policies that helped unleash a peaceful revolution across eastern europe. in 1990 gorbachev was awarded the nobel peace prize for his key role in bringing about a new peaceful world order. internationally, he was highly regarded. but at home, he was increasingly under pressure. the economic situation was dire. the soviet union on the verge of falling apart, communist hardliner stage, a coup against gorbachev in august 1991. at the end of that year, mikhail gorbachev announced his resignation and the soviet union was dissolved with many russians holding him responsible for its demise.

near he could you tell us more about why ah, there's such a mixed legacy at home as far as a gorbachev went and, and what he achieved while alex gorbachev lay to the foundations of russian democracy, he created the atmosphere in which something completely new could emerge been freedom of speech, freedom of press democracy, everything that russians before him could only dream about. but he also made mistakes. of course, gorbachev was followed by boris yeltsin, a man who didn't exactly lie garbage of. this was at the beginning of the, as it giga beginning of the cow arctic nineties, in russia ingrained in russian collective mind as a decayed of cows and lawlessness a. but people mix it all up to day and to blame. gorbachev for everything are we talked to moscow, vice 9 people out of 10 sant he coast to the disintegration of their once. your great and beautiful country, the soviet union. there is

a lot of nostalgia for the good old days. and of course, a lot of frustration about the forest, yes, after the collapse of the soviet union, which will very difficult. and are you a see the kremlin? and also, russian president vladimir putin reaction to college of state wooten paid tribute to gorbachev through a he scrambling spokesman pis scoff, saying he was a great statesman. ah, he expressed his convalescence to the family today. however, putting you, sad into will not be attending the ceremony. because of scheduling reasons, at least that's what the kremlin says and it is of course, ah const because that putin who will not be present to there today. ah, it's relationship between the 2 was difficult. actually. gorbachev supported put ins, policy special towards ukraine. garbage have said that an exception of crimea was justified. at the same time, he must have been increasingly frustrated with the developments of a recent years and months. a gorbachev never commented directly on the one crane as

he was already very ill. but one of his closest friends, however, said he believed the war had greatly disappointed mikhail gorbachev. okay, but just looking at like pictures of mourners streaming in to pay the last respects an open coffin ceremony. as you can see, there are a big question, of course is just how much interest is there? how big are these crowds going to be? is this going to be used as some sort of protest against a vladimir putin in his war, or what he calls his special invasion of ukraine. and it's been 3 decades uri since gorbachev resigned. and the cold war ended. what would you say is the legacy that he left behind? well, it all depends, i would say on who you are, who you talk to people in western europe, especially in germany, but also russians who are coming to moscow's house of unions to day to place their

last respects to got a bunch of these people certainly think very highly of him. at the same time, people in the baltic states reacted quite differently to gorbachev. i for many here he was a symbol of the soviet occupation and gorbachev didn't wanted the baltic states to become independent. when all that, especially in neighboring lithuania, there is a negative attitude towards got about charlotte. so any, was the 1st of the baltic states that declared independence. what followed was bloody protest with many deaths when soviets special forces tried to suppress the these protest, anthony, as president compared garbage of even with the prison warden. or who only decided to reform the prison, partially, ah, by the prisoners, wanted to get out. and so they did, but against gorbachev, sybil ah, lithuanians, foreign minister, long's baroness has reacted quite harshly and treated lithuanians will not glorify gorbachev. is there will never forget to the fact that his army murdered,

he said civilians to prolong his regime, occupation. ah, and he and riga had got a thrill cabbage loudly asked for a minister, stressed to that to the collapse of this is there was the best moment of the 20th century, but the killing of people in vienna since rieger was a part of gorbachev's legacy or the mixed legacy of mikhail gorbachev, the last soviet leader being laid to rest our we can see more as their streaming in to our say their final farewells. thank you very much for timing in uri rache to there are from reger and we will keep you up to date on any developments they're on that front today. here on the tell me. thank you. let's take a look at some other stories. now, officials in sri lanka say the former president got a by a roger puncture has returned. 7 weeks after fleeing the island, he was forced out of office. after months of mass protests over an economic and humanitarian crisis. recalls for his arrest and investigation into corruption. in

pakistan, the humanitarian crisis caused by weeks of monsters. rain and flooding is worsening . areas in the south or under threat as water surges for major rivers in the north will than 1200 people have been killed in large parts of pakistan remain under water. russia state owned energy supply. a gas problem says it's indefinitely holding the flow of gas through a key pipeline to germany. the company says it discovered leaks in a turbine. it was expected to restart deliveries today after a 3 day break for maintenance, but in a social media post gas prom announced north stream one was now completely suspended without giving any time frame. european leaders reject the reasoning. they see this as an extension of russia's war in ukraine. seaman's, the german company that supplied gas problem with the turbines says there's no reason the pipeline couldn't keep operating. let's talk more about this with a fee called bull. she's a global research scholar at the syndrome global energy policy at columbia

university. her research focuses on hydrogen and natural gas. first of all, rushes turned off the taps on north street one indefinitely. how diary is this? do you think this is very dire? because in europe, we are facing not on the gas crises, but the power crises as when we are facing a gas crises because our keesa plan. yeah. which will present you don't, you know, 40 percent of total gas supplies. you know that he's going on the boat 20 percent of that by bank. right. so we have a big problem because we have twice to replace these williams. we've energy, but visa engine is out, which is the expensive. i mean, the prices of gas at some point 2 weeks ago where the equivalent of one was 6 on, but the last about bubbles and the other power crises. because we have no, we have no hide full and they are not even replaced by the addition of when you the

board and to look for get back. natural gas represents about 20 percent of power generation and natural gas demand ease of power sector as not declining so far. so busy p problems of testing. we've you, kevin, hi. all being replaced by a t p more gas look corn, not mobile. you live or stand up would be useful. what about ukraine's offer to increase its electricity exports to europe? is that something that can happen overnight? i do not know the specific as it is about that, but any, it's not go it every kilowatt hour. is it to how, what are right now is welcome. i think, you know, we need to move away from ideology to pragmatism. every thing that we can bring back or keep. and i'm thinking about some nuclear power plants in germany is absolutely welcome during this winter. and so i think politicians the to be extremely wellness with the population. they should have been palms of their the

beginning there been going around in the world, trying to get additional gas supplies that not been focusing enough on the demand side. and we to reduce our demand and said, credit team effort a little bit like what the japanese did. after fukushima, we need to reduce older men because what i'm afraid about is that the situation is going to go on for 3 years, right. can you imagine how our industry sector in europe is going to survive for 3 years, even if they are either shortage of energy because they're going to be the 1st good of the asked to leave. we pretty crazy prices compared to anybody, s into what our industry just going to be on competitive we are at war. we are at economic war. we've russia, i mean people need to realize that and we need to think as we should be thinking in terms of an economic war, not try to seemingly fiscal year. maybe we can renew so we can be know. i mean,

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