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don't know, yes, to the goal. ah, feel the magic discover the world around you. subscribe to d w documentary on youtube. russia and ukraine was the 1st major diplomatic breakthrough since the war began, and some even saw it as a 1st step towards peace. but now the fragile court is once again on shaky ground water. mere putin falsely accuses the west of hoarding and wants to renegotiate. meanwhile, he continues to weaponized energy supplies coming out of russia,
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threatening to freeze europe in the winter. if countries there go ahead with a planned price cap on russian gas, i'm nickel, really can berlin and this is the day. ah, they are full. we will propose a price on russian gas. absolutely stupid decision thrushes actively manipulating the gas market. we won't supply gas, oil or cold, he always try to black mountain us. we will not supply anything that hurts our interests. we must cut rushes, revenues to push fortune uses to finance is atrocious. warren your print? oh, also on the day ukraine says it is willing to pull the plug on the supper regia, nuclear power station. to prevent a catastrophe,
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cave has already told residents living nearby to pack up and leave. moments under the shelling as there is not, mary is explodes and everything returns to normal. it's a power plant. yes, that's really scary. the freshman? ah. we begin the day with a president looking east lottery, potent hosted the eastern economic forum and russia's port city of bloody rostock to day. it was an attempt to find new allies and firm up existing friendships as moscow turns to asia in the face of unprecedented western sanctions over the war in ukraine. at the same time, he began to burn whatever bridges were still left with a west. and a bellicose appearance potent threatened to turn his back on the un brokered grain deal, cut off energy supplies to europe, and insisted that the spine, economic pressure and terrible losses on the battlefield. his country was doing just fine. i think you can wish to we,
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i'm sure we haven't lost anything and we won't lose anything. i hear russia is coping with the economic, financial, and technological aggression of the west. i'm talking about aggression. there's no other word for it to believe you are doing well, you foreign currency exchanges and stock exchanges have stabilize. the inflation is down. water unemployment is at an all time low that each is come, minimum home good, where someone to isolate russia. motor is illiterate, but as we've always said, that is impossible. you've seen them with them. you only need to look at the map. thus does she to postables mother, knuckle immortal through it is probably worth thinking about limitations on green exports and other food stubs to your loan. i will definitely consult the president of turkey. mister edwardo on, on this matter. dorothy has been a little girl. there's a got loose you asked about caps on her energy prices when it's in the notions
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doesn't mean that unless she did it, that is an absolutely stupid idea. today, she needs them. if someone tries to implement that though it, it will not be able to anything good for them. she knew anybody. well, as if to underline their differences, just hours after putin said a price cap on russian gas would be stupid. the european union said it was considering just that it wants to set a limit on what buyers can pay for russian gas and ports. the aim is to help households and businesses struggling to pay their energy bills. european commission president, it wasn't a funder line, said perkins blackmail had to stop. we aim at lowering the costs of gas. and therefore we will propose a price cup on russian gas. of course the objective is here very clear. we all know that our sanctions, deeply grinding into the russian economy with a heavy negative impact. but voting is partially buffering through fossil fuel
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revenues. so here the objective is we must cut rush us revenues, which put in uses to finance his atrocious lauren ukraine. my 1st guest is samuel romani, he teaches politics and international relations at the university of oxford in the u. k. he's also the author of the upcoming book putin's war on ukraine and examines why a boot and opted for all out regime change in ukraine and looks at the future implications of the invasion, mr. romani. welcome. so good to see you. we saw a very defiant, potent, again, today he even said that russia had lost nothing in launching the whar. what do you make of that? why does the message and he asked to convey, he's always been trying to convey the match. she's the sanctions that have been urged on russia are going to pull rank of unintended consequences, are much stronger on the last, especially in the energy sphere in terms of freezing of europe, and also russia shield that is immense military losses that hasn't reported
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officially on casualties since the end of march, and the agile is running now at $15.00 to $20000.00 lowest toys and they're now at risk of new territory and hers on. whereas the russians you make the counter offensive that grant is launching, is not sustainable. so his lot to cover up the truth is, and i think that's fair to say that russia hasn't gained anything in the past 6 months. how big of a miscalculation has the invasion been forbidden? well, the vision you raised in a good back operation, recruiting only one scope. it sat consolidated, the, his regime. i mean the public is behind the war for the most part, at least in the short term, the liberal opposition has been washed. the development of all these occurrences are in jail, and the hybrid narrative is totally warburg, russian from the lessons russia has been quite compelling at home. but aside from that, the war has been catastrophic for russia. they've as separate stations that even their own internal parts suggest may not lead to a full recovery. the russian g d v. by the end of the decade,
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if the initial crash was lessons here, it lost access to military technology to refresh the weapon stocks in and they will, they gain curves on avalon skinny new horizons under threat. those sanctions are precisely the reason russia is looking to pivot towards the east, but only 2 countries sent top representatives to the economic forum and lot of all stock today are asian countries more reluctant to engage with moscow than putin would like to believe at this stage nancy general question, because susan docking about more people already in a really intense whales ever since you took over the residence and especially since 2014 when they 1st next crimea. but aside from the major deals and the defense years and dangers of extract from mineral and oil resources, these non western powers have not really given significant security assistance to russia when russia might, might need it. like, for example, china does not help russia to warn right and also large scale investments in russia's economic development. and what we're seeing,
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the checking on the forum is that inability to convert rhetoric and transactional relationships. if you're truly deep, long term gigi partnerships those telling that lesion shoe, the chinese number 3 is the only person there and rushes having to science was consequential deals of the form with me. and miranda? yeah, that's quite telling. let's keep talking about china because the relationship between potent and changing thing is, is quite fascinating. both are going to meet for the 1st time face to face next week. at fulton has described the 2 countries relationship as having no limits, and beijing refuses to condemn the invasion of ukraine. what exactly is china's role in the conflict? well, i think china is wrong. the complex shows, and it's a closed partnership and actually has limits. and like with this and saying that the chinese has not condemn russia. they've said that condemning russia is deal of curious diplomacy in peace, not to position that you see many others in the global south, like india,
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the arab league in the african union member states, also take that's not unusual. and they've also launching information war against the west. that blames the warranty to expansion covers up. so russia's worst war france was on bucetti. and a fred purchased ass. and if you get a manual coal as well and gas, but aside from that, they don't provide any kind of military assistance towards russia in terms of major infrastructure and technological projects like cars and aviation parts. it actually been reducing their sales and not supplying the of those sort of parts. and they're major state companies including wall way have moved their employees to other countries because it's dan or been worry about investing new projects because the fear is secondary sanctions. so there's a strong partnership with china does not want to criticize russia, but again it lacks g depth and certainly a limited partnership, not no limits. one another topic couldn't touch on during the form. it was the grain deal. why is the threatening to tear off the agreement?
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well, the india, 1st of all, was not meant to be permanent, at least in the russian point of view. it was $120.00 days until november and then it would be assessed and then the decision would be made to renew it. and the russians are threatening to scrap the deal obliquely. but now i think he's getting more prominent from lab ra from the un. and now for booting, for a couple of reasons. first of all, if you had a sanctions are still blocking russia from supply fertilizer, freely unintentional markets. even though the westernized that they also sanctions a bell rushing potash, which are another obligation for the west. also make that not to be a big deal. the 2nd thing is that russian rain has not really been moving out of the ports in your rent as quickly as much as they would like the ledge. now, not even one ship is moved. and thirdly, it's also by p r. the russians want to show that ukraine is re selling gag grain to rich countries and is trying to profit off of this and not really fulfilled obligations to give money. yeah, give grain to the poorest countries,
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particularly in africa, and that's a very misleading charge. because even when you grant, as we sold grand suite in the united states, it's gone to countries like e d o via and he rang just dispatch 20600 tons of rain to somalia. so it's a mixture of p r and also russia trying to protect its own interest and is having problems next words, blaming them on sanctions fairly or unfairly. all right, so you don't think we're going to see another russian blockade in the black sea. so from russian contacted you, i'd none, none of them have been totally me. that dad, they would like to add in the deal. i think they just want to kind of renegotiate, it's terms in some ways and did that. why do you that not true turkey and dad, or if you read or mean for all mediation brothers, likely chair by turkey, but through the original a guarantee the greenwich, the united nations. and after the survey lab, rob me very clear. in his speech yesterday, he would appeal to the un and not to the western backers of ukraine who would never leave the table in the more informal setting interesting stuff, samuel romani from the university of oxford and the okay, thank you so much. thank you very much.
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ah, the world is still reacting after nuclear inspectors from the united nations war, and that a catastrophic incident could happen at this upper region nuclear power plant in ukraine. since russian troops took control of the facility early in the war. kevin, moscow. i've been accusing each other of risking a disaster by shelling the site your abs, largest nuclear facility is now disconnected from the grid after shelling cut its external power lines. and for the time being it's running on the back of diesel and generators. but there are concerns about what could happen if the generators failed or ran out of fuel. the head of ukraine's nuclear agency says the government is considering switching off the entire station before any of that happens. wasn't more wealthy. we can potentially get into a situation where we run out of diesel,
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the kinship. and this can lead to an incident with damage to the active zone of the reactor. pushing that would release radioactive material into the environment. ready with to. ready oh, sure, sure, and you said it would have consequences, not only for ukraine, most of it would surely have consequences beyond the countries borders. it's something we must avoid novelty because of you. and i'm now happy to welcome charles casto. he's a nuclear safety expert and worked in japan for a year following the fukushima nuclear accident and 2011. dr. casso then served as the american government's lead nuclear representative. mr. casto, welcome to the day. first up, how big do you think the danger of a nuclear disaster is right now at this upper regia power plant? oh, thanks. remo, nicole. well the, the dangers,
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it's unprecedented to have this situation. nuclear power plants are not designed to be operated in a war zone. so it's definitely a dangerous situation. it must be monitored in prepare, we must prepare for any eventuality that could happen at that station. there has been a lot of talk though about the plan being quite robust, that a plane could potentially crash on to wait. and the structure court with sandy impact. whatever missile actually did strike a reactor. well the, as you said to call, they have been tested for that and it would take quite an impact for anything to hurt the reactor itself. what i worry more about is the dry fuel storage that's nearby in canister is concrete canisters at the facilities. those can essentially become what we always call a dirty bomb and may limit the access to the facility, which would cause even more problems. it's access is limited to the reactors in, in providing them power and water. you demand ideas and leadership
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to protect the plant. does that mean that you're not seeing enough of that? why would i would do more? i would plan as an extreme crisis leader. i would always get ahead of the accident . you must get ahead of it. you must expand your capabilities and you must have act faster. than the accident does. so i've called for a staging area for a rescue mission for the reactor. should something happen. we learned that it fukushima, that a staging area called j village, away from the station about 10 miles away from the station, or 18, somewhere around a turned 18 miles away from the station. and i would do something similar here where you could store the diesel diesel fuel that they were talking about. we need the more diesel fuel for emergency diesel generate where you could store other sand, other equipment that you would use to rescue the reactor in the event of an accident. now your crane says it might have to shut down the plant altogether with
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that lower any of those risks that you just named. it would decal good plants, operate it full power normally. and when they shut down, they still generate electricity. uh, heat, much as a pot on your stove, when you shut off the stove, the pot still was hot and you have to remove that heat. but the longer you go, the more heat that dissipate. and alas, hazard there is so shutting down reactors we in the saying always is the safest reactors are shut down, reactor switching off europe's biggest nuclear power plant. i'd imagine that's not as easy as it sounds though. how would that work? was easy, the to shut down or actors as easy, the electrical supply that's more difficult to make adjustments to that, especially if you wanted to divert that electric supply. the same thing happened in japan, would you started out with $54.00 reactors and eventually within a year or so, all the reactors were shut down in the country re adjusted it's electrical supply
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to accommodate the shut out of all those reactors and in ukraine. right now, unfortunately there's not much electrical demand. what the workers have to stay behind because there is a lot of concern about them. politicians have said that they're not workers anymore, that they are there as hostages, that they are working at gunpoint would people who are now work there, have to remain to oversee the facility. well, that's another option is to have someone in the state here who can go in and replace those operators. and the news from the i e, a mission is fairly positive on that they, they conclude that the operators are grading operators are still in command of the reactors. so that's, that's very positive there. so at this point, but my position is or should be some contingency should something happen where the operators are either overly fatigued or are not able to, to respond to the,
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to the reactors. now for the situation at hand, if the electricity were to cut out while the plant is still operational, what would happen? well, this is was talked about earlier, emergency diesel generators would run and they have about a 10 day supply of diesel fuel and more on the station now. and but at that point, the 7 percent decay heat as we call it, the decay heat would greatly dissipate. so that would be much less of a threat after that 10 days or beyond nuclear safety expert. charles castell, thank you so much for this insights. mexico ukraine is making progress in its counter offensive against russian troops and the southern and eastern parts of the country. that's according to the u. s. based institute for the study of war. the think tank release this mat you're about to see showing areas where significant fighting occurred over the weekend. those areas are mainly along
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the border of the her son region, but also in the eastern lu, hans and don. it's province's ukraine claims to have liberated multiple villages but has not named them citing security reasons. and our correspondent in key mathias building a has more on the ukranian counter offensive. we've heard about successes in the south for some time. we don't know how well they're able to consolidate them. we don't get the full picture. there's little access to the front lines at the moment to join a list and so there are questions that remain them, but we have with the picture that the ukrainians are indeed advancing. there is, it is getting more and more is getting more and more confirmed and in the east we are hearing now similar things. the push a push onto the front lines from the ukrainians. that seems to be
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that seems to be moving on. they seem to be some successes, so a lot of pressure applied there. we don't know whether the objective is to really move forward fast there or just to keep pressure high on the russian troops there. so russia could not deploy them from there to the south. for example, that's something that's how that has been some speculation about. but at the moment it looks as if the ukrainians are having the initiative on the in the hawk of region and in their own region. and that's off to russia. i've had the initiative in the dom bus, but also in other areas for a very long time. ah, here in germany, lawmakers have paid tribute to late soviet leader of michelle gorbachev, who died last month at the age of $91.00. the president of the parliament described him as a great liberator who changed germany's history. the tributes came as germany is bone to stock returned to business after the summer recess. the 1st session saw
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them sharp criticism aimed at chancellor left shots over his policies towards ukraine and russia. the bonus tag began at session commemorating former soviet leader. gorbachev, whose policy had ended the cold war and bridge the gap between the soviet union and the west. russian president vladimir putin. renunciation of this path and his war against embattled ukraine has led to the crisis situation that germany and other western states have to deal with. we abandoned us more, we will do what is next? that is all. it is exactly along that policy line closely embedded in the alliance with our friends around the world that we support ukraine and will do so for as long as necessary. opposition leader cedric mats from the conservative sit back at the chancellor telling him he is not doing enough to support ukraine. he also criticized the government for sticking with its plan to eventually shut off nuclear power through old sites. for the time being,
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this capacity must remain on the grid army. this will lower prices. this will reduce costs for companies. if you have people who have told you that and it should be anything but an exaggeration. esau, mister chancellor, stop this insanities and is in chancellor. charlotte's replied that his government had solve problems before the opposition had even identified them. he called out the conservators saying they were responsible for germany's reliance on russian energy, as well as its slow progress on renewables. the van, or you were incapable of bringing about the expansion of renewable energy's view for defense of pedals against every single wind turbine. and every defensive battle in the last few years is still hurting our country today. that was you, those, the government and opposition agree that energy prices need to come down. but fundamentally disagree on how to reach this goal. ah,
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in pakistan, millions of people who've been affected by record breaking floods are now confronting the threats of water warren diseases. tens of thousands in hard head provinces are falling ill after drinking contaminated flood water. dr. say they've been treating 1000 suffering from diarrhea, skin infections, and other ailments. 3 year old are champ, has been feverish for days. ever since the floods badly damaged his family home. and they've had to sleep out in the open. he didn't get any medical treatment at the start because the family couldn't afford to go to the doctor. burial book out of my son fell ill a few days ago because i didn't have the money to bring him here, but i found it. god, the doctor says he's got malaria that the he's getting a bit better with the debit. when i go either i can,
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i am i recorded. i've gotten alive for faith. even the stagnant water means mosquitoes couldn't quickly spread malaria. but medical facilities are basic in this remote area of the southern sinned province. at each kumar runs a small practice and is always busy. most of his patients can't afford to pay from them. more of that, we can't really treat patients for free to live, but we do it anyway. but they still have to pay for the medicine. i think there's a lot of disease or some of the children often have several illnesses at once because they're drinking contaminated water. but if you are told i can make money vinegar. it's not just medical treatment, which is lacking. food is also in short supply. most of these market traders are farmers whose fields are flooded. they also have to deal with the extreme heat. aside again, kitty lay on my house and the harvest have been wiped out yet. that is honey.
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there's no shelter from the heat in the water in the fields is still waist deep into the vine. my business will go bust how she hadn't to hear. it hasn't rained in this region for about 10 days, but the water cannot run off because the ground is saturated. scientists spare the harvests and the next 2 years will fail. a jazz ali and his family are in a desperate situation. their house is uninhabitable. parts of the roof has collapsed and they live in fear of the next rain, full. and as the morocco, my daughter government has to help us. our home has been destroyed or rocky, the children are sick and we have no work. i'm really worried about the wearing a mug unit. the login is out. now. nope, additional is there's no food and the family is having to survive on
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a few cups of tea a day that will not sustain them for long. well, the day's almost done, but as always, the conversation continues on line. we're looking forward to hearing from you on twitter, make sure to follow our team under at dw news and myself, nicole underscore freely, but for the time being for me the entire team on the day. thanks for spending part of your day. but ah ah, with
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ah ah ah ah, this is dw news line from berlin after a record breaking res pakistan's flood victim's face a new threat. water born diseases are spreading among those affected by historic flooding. by them, 3000000 children are at risk of illness and malnutrition. also coming up the you and bales plans to cap the price of russian gas to undercut.
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