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ah, ah, the green deal between russia and ukraine was the 1st major diplomatic breakthrough since the war began some even sod as a 1st step towards peace. but now the fragile accord is once again on shaky grout. latimer putin falsely accuses the west of hoarding and wants to renegotiate. meanwhile, he continues to weaponized energy supplies coming out of russia, threatening to freeze europe in the winter of countries there. go ahead with a planned price cap on russian gas. i'm nichol freely, him, berlin, and this is the day. ah, therefore, we will propose a price on russian gas. absolutely stupid decision thrushes actively
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manipulating the gas market. we won't supply gas oil or cold. the always try to blackmail it. we will not supply anything that hurts our interests. we must cut russia revenues to push fortune uses to finance is atrocious. warren, your print. oh, also on the de ukraine says it is willing to pull the plug on the supper regia, nuclear power station. to prevent a catastrophe. cave has already told residents living nearby to pack up and leave. moment during the shelling as there is not, mary is explodes and everything returns to normal. if that's a power plant. yes, that's reading. so gary thrush ah, we begin the day with a president looking east lottery, potent host said the eastern economic forum and rushes port city of letty rostock to day. it was an attempt to find new allies and firm up existing friendships as
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moscow turns to asia in the face of unprecedented western sanctions over the war in ukraine. at the same time, he began to burn whatever bridges were still left with a west and a bellicose, the appearance potent threatened to turn his back on. the un brokered grain deal cut off energy supplies to europe and insisted that despite economic pressure and terrible losses on the battlefield, his country was doing just fine. ah, i think you can wish to we, i'm sure we haven't lost anything and we won't lose anything. i hear russia is coping with the economic, financial, and technological aggression of the west. i'm talking about aggression. there's no other word for it to believe you are doing well, you foreign currency exchanges and stock exchanges have stabilized. inflation is down, water unemployment is at an all time low that he just come,
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minimum form good, where someone to isolate russia motor is illiterate, but as we've always said, that is impossible. you've seen them with them. you only need to look at the map just to post a postmodern, knuckle immortal through it is probably worth thinking about limitations on green exports and other food stubs to europe. though, i will definitely consult the president of turkey. mr. edward, along on this matter. today it's been a little doug. those are good with you asked about caps on our energy prices when it's in the notions doesn't mean that unless you did it, that is an absolutely stupid idea. today she needs them if someone tries to implement to it though it, it will not lead to anything good for them. she knew anybody. well, as if to underline their differences, just hours after putin said a price cap on russian gas would be stupid. the european union said it was considering just that it wants to set a limit on what buyers can pay for russian gas and ports. the aim is to help
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household and businesses struggling to pay their energy bills. european commission president, it was a funder line, said perkins blackmail had to stop. we aim at lowering the costs of gas. and therefore we will propose a price cap on russian gas. of course the objective is here very clear. we all know that our sanctions, deeply grinding into the russian economy with a heavy negative impact. but voting is partially buffering through fossil fuel revenues. so here the objective is we must cut rushes revenues, which put in uses to finance his atrocious lauren ukraine. my 1st guest is samuel or romani, he teaches politics and international relations at the university of oxford in the u. k. he's also the author of the upcoming book putin's war on ukraine and examines why boot and opted for all out regime change in ukraine and looks at the future
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implications of the invasion, mr. romani. welcome. so good to see you. we saw a very defiant putin again today he even said that russia had lost nothing in launching the war. what do you make of that? well, he gets the message and he asked to convey, he's always been trying to convey the matches. the sanctions that have been posed on russia are going to boomerang unintended consequences are much stronger on the west, especially in the energy sphere in terms of freezing of europe and also russia. she'll that is immense military losses that has been reported officially and casually since the end of march. and the agile is running now at $15.00 to $20000.00 lowest. and they're now at risk of losing territory and hers on. whereas the russians you make the counter eventually grand is launching, is not sustainable. so his lot to cover up the truth is, and i think that's fair to say that russia hasn't gained anything in the past 6 months. how big of a miscalculation has the invasion been forbidden?
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well, the invasion of you guys didn't have good back operations recruiting only on one scope. it sat consolidated, the, his regime. i mean, the public is behind the war for the most part, at least in the short term, the liberal opposition has been washed. the development of all these occurrences are in jail and death. the hybrid narrative is totally war of aggression from the west, against russia. as in quite compelling at home, but aside from that, the war has been catastrophic for russia. they've asked several stations that even their own internal reports suggest may not lead to a full recovery the russian g d v. by the end of the decade, even if the initial crash was less than 0, it lost access to military technology to refresh the weapon stocks in. and they will the game turns on and align skinny new horizons under threat. those sanctions are precisely the reason russia is looking to pivot towards the east, but only 2 countries and top representatives to the economic forum in vladivostok. today are asian countries more reluctant to engage with moscow than putin would
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like to believe at this stage. that's the general question for the students in docking about multiple already in a really intense whales ever since you took over the residence and especially since when you were here when they 1st next time. yeah. but aside from the major deals in the defense, years and dangers of extract from mineral and oil resources, these non western powers have not really given significant security assistance to russia when russia might, might need it. like, for example, china does not help russia with the warren and also large scale investments in russia's economic development. and what we're seeing, the checking on the forum is that inability to convert rhetoric and transactional relationships. if you're truly deep, long term g partnerships. those telling that lesion shoe, the chinese number 3, is the only person there and russia is having to science most consequential deals of the form, but man wears into yeah, that's quite telling. let's keep talking about china because the relationship between potent and cheating thing is, is quite fascinating. both are going to meet for the 1st time face to face next
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week at food and has described the 2 countries relationship as having no limits and beijing refuses to condemn the invasion of ukraine. what exactly is china's role in the conflict? why the china is wrong? accomplish shows and it's a close partnership and actually has limits. and like with this and saying they, the chinese have knocking down russia. they've said that condemning russia is deleterious diplomacy in peace, not position. you see many others in the global south, like india, the arab league in the african union. and even remember, states also take that's not unusual. and they've also launched information war against the west. that blames the warranty to expansion covers up. so, russia's worst war france was on bucetti and a fred purchased ass and if you get a manual coal as well and gas. but aside from that, they don't provide any kind of military assistance towards russia in terms of the
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major infrastructure and technological projects like cars and aviation parts. it actually been reducing their sales and not supplying the of those sort of parts and their major data and companies, including wall way had moved their employees to other countries. and stan, or been, where are you investing you projects because the fear is secondary sanctions. so there is a strong partnership with china does not want to criticize russia, but again it lacks g depth and certainly a limited partnership, not no limits. one. another topic didn't touch on during the form. it was the grain deal. why is the threatening to tear off the agreement? well, the green dio, 1st of all, was not meant to be permanent, least in the russian point of view. it was $120.00 days until november, and then it would be assessed. and then the decision will be made to redo it, and the russians are threatening to scrap the deal obliquely. but now i think he's getting more prominent from lab ra from the un and now for boon for a couple reasons. first of all, if you will, sanctions are still blocking russia from sublime fertilizer, freely on international markets. even though the west denies that they also
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sanctions a bell rushing potash, which are another obligation for the west. also make that not to be a big deal. the 2nd thing is that russian rain has not really been moving out of the ports in your rent as quickly as much as they would like the ledge. now, not even one ship is moved. and thirdly, it's also about p r. the russians want to show that ukraine is reselling guy grain to rich countries and is trained in profit of, of this and not really fulfilled obligation which to give money. yeah. give grain to the poor countries, particularly in africa. and that's a very misleading charge, because even when you granted we sold grand suite in the united states, it's gone to countries like ethiopia and again, just dispatch $20600.00 tons of rain to somalia. so it's a mixture of p r and also russia trying to protect its own interest and is having problems with next words, blaming them on sanctions fairly or unfairly. all right, so you don't think we're going to see another russian blockade in the black sea. so for russian contacts i've been speaking to you, i'd not,
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none of them have been telling me that dad, they would like to add in the deal. i think they just want to kind of re negotiate . it's terms in some ways and get that. why do you that not true turkey and dad, or if you had or mean for all mediation brother's likely chair by turkey, but through the original a guarantee, the greenwich, the united nations, and after surgery last brought me very clear. in his speech yesterday, he would appeal to the un and not to the western backers of ukraine who would never leave the at the table in the more informal setting, interesting south samuel romani from the university of oxford and the okay, thank you so much. thank you very much. ah, the world is still reacting after nuclear inspectors from the united nations warrant that a catastrophic incident could happen at this upper region nuclear power plant in ukraine. since russian troops took control of the facility early in the war. keven moscow. i've been accusing each other of risking a disaster by showing the site your abs, largest nuclear facility is now disconnected from the grid after shelling cut its
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external power lines. and for the time being it's running on the back of diesel and generators. but there are concerns about what could happen if the generators failed or ran out of fuel. the head of ukraine's nuclear agency says the government is considering switching off the entire station before any of that happens. more than more dc, we can potentially get into a situation where we run out of diesel. the kinship in this can lead to an incident with damage to the active zone of the reactor. pushing that would release radioactive material into the environment with to. ready oh, sure, sure, and you said it would have consequences, not only for ukraine, it would surely have consequences beyond the countries borders. it's something we
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must avoid novelty because of you. and i'm now happy to welcome charles casto. he's a nuclear safety expert and worked in japan for a year following the focus un nuclear accident in 2011. dr. casso then served as the american governments lead nuclear representative. mr. casto, welcome to the day. first up, how big do you think the danger of a nuclear disaster is right now at this upper regia power plant? thanks fabulous. nicole. well, the, the dangers, it's unprecedented. to have this situation. nuclear power plants are not designed to be operated in a war zone. so it's definitely a dangerous situation. it must be monitored in prepare, we must prepare for any eventuality that could happen at that station. there has been a lot of talk though about the clamping fight robust, that a plane could potentially crash on to wait. and the structure court with sandy impact. whatever missile actually did strike
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a reactor. well the edge is you said to call, they have been tested for that and it would take quite an impact for anything to hurt the reactor itself. what i worry more about is the dry fuel storage that's nearby in canister is concrete canisters at the facilities. those can essentially become what we always call a dirty bomb and may limit the access to the facility, which would cause even more problems. its axis is limited for the reactors in indo, providing them power and water. you demand ideas and leadership to protect the plant. does that mean that you're not seeing enough of that? why would i would do more? i would plan as an extreme crisis leader. i would always get ahead of the accident . you must get ahead of it. you must expand your capabilities and you must have act faster than the accident does. so. gov, called for a staging area for a rescue mission for the reactor. should something happen. we learned that it
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fukushima, that a staging area called j village, away from the station about 10 miles away from the station, or 18, somewhere around a 1018 miles away from the station. and i would do something similar here where you could store the diesel diesel fuel that they were talking about. we need the more diesel fuel for emergency diesel generate where you can store other sand, other equipment that you would use to rescue the reactor in the event of an accident. now your grain says it might have to shut down the planned altogether with that lower any of those risks that you just named it would go plants operate it full power normally. and when they shut down, they still generate electricity. heat, much as a pot on your stove, when you shut off the stove, the pot still was hot and you have to remove that heat. but the longer you go, the more heat that dissipate in o. s hazard there is so shutting down reactors when the saying always is the safest
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reactors are shut down, reactor switching off europe's biggest nuclear power plant. i'd imagine that's not as easy as it sounds though. how would that work? was easy. the shut down or actors as easy, the electrical supply that's more difficult to make adjustments to that, especially if you wanted to divert that electric supply. the same thing happened in japan, would you started out with $54.00 reactors and eventually within a year or so, all the reactors were shut down in the country, you readjusted it's electrical supply to accommodate the shut out of all those reactors and in ukraine. right now, unfortunately there's not much electrical demand. what the workers have to stay behind because there is a lot of concern about them. politicians have said that they're not workers anymore, that they are there as hostages, that they are working at gunpoint would people who are now work there, have to remain to oversee the facility. well,
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that's another option is to have someone in the state here who can go in and replace those operators in the news from the i. e, a mission is fairly positive on that they, they conclude that the operators are granting operators are still in command of the reactors. so that's, that's very positive there. so at this point, but my position is, or should be some contingency should something happen? what were the operators are either overly fatigued or are not able to to respond to the, to the reactors. now for the situation at hand, if the electricity were to cut out while the plant is still operational, what would happen? well, this is was talked about earlier, emergency diesel generators would run and they have about a 10 day supply of diesel fuel and more on the station now. and but at that point, those 7 percent decay heat as we call it, the decay heat would greatly dissipate. so that would be much less of
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a threat after that 10 days or beyond nuclear safety expert. charles castell, thanks so much for this insights. bicycle ukraine is making progress in its counter offensive against russian troops and the southern and eastern parts of the country. that's according to the u. s. base institute for the study of war. the thing tank release this mat you're about to see showing areas where significant fighting occurred over the weekend. those areas are mainly along the border of the her son region, but also in the eastern lu, hans and done it provinces. ukraine claims to have liberated multiple villages, but has not named them citing security reasons. and our correspondent and key mateus building a has more on the ukranian counter offensive. we've heard about successes in the south for some time. we don't know how well they're able to consolidate them. we
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don't get the full picture. there's little access to the front lines at the moment for journalists. and so there are questions that remain them that we have with the picture that the ukrainians are indeed advancing. there is, it is getting more and more is getting more and more confirmed and in the east we are hearing now similar things. the push a push on to the front lines from the ukrainians. that seems to be that seems to be moving on that seem to be some successes. so a lot of pressure applied there. we don't know whether the objective is to really move forward fast there or just to keep pressure high on the russian troops there. so russia could not deploy them from there to the south. for example, that's something that that has been some speculation about. but at the moment it looks as if the ukrainians are having the initiative on the, in the hockey region and in the southern region. and that's off to russia has had
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the initiative in the dorm bus, but also in other areas. for a very long time. ah, here in germany, lawmakers have paid tribute to late soviet leader of michelle gorbachev, who died last month at the age of $91.00. the president of the parliament described him as a great liberator who changed germany's history. the tributes came as germany's bundle stock returned to business after the summer recess. the 1st session saw some sharp criticism aimed at chancellor left shots over his policies towards ukraine and russia. the bonus tag began at session commemorating former soviet leader gorbachev, whose policy had ended the cold war and bridge the gap between the soviet union and the west. russian president vladimir putin. renunciation of this path and his war against embattled ukraine has led to the crisis situation that germany and other
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western states have to deal with. we abandoned us more. we will do what is next because all it is exactly along that policy line closely embedded in the alliance with our friends around the world that we support ukraine and will do so for as long as necessary. opposition leader frederick mads from the conservative sit back at the chancellor, telling him he is not doing enough to support ukraine. he also criticized the government for sticking with its plan to eventually shut off nuclear power through or off site. for the time being. this capacity must remain on the grid army. this will lower prices. this will reduce costs for companies. if you have, people were told you that and it should be anything but an exaggeration. esau. mister chancellor. the start of this insanity is in chancellor. charlotte replied that his government had solve problems before the opposition had even identified them. he called out the conservatives saying they were responsible for germany's
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reliance on russian energy, as well as its slow progress on renewables. the bond or you were incapable of bringing about the expansion of renewable energies. you fought, defensive pedals against every single wind turbine. and every defensive battle in the last few years is still hurting our country to day. that was you. those, the government and opposition agree that energy prices need to come down, but fundamentally disagree on how to reach this goal. ah, and pakistan, millions of people who've been affected by rack breaking floods are now confronting the threats of water born diseases. tens of thousands in hard head provinces are falling ill after drinking contaminated flood water. dr. say they've been treating thousands suffering from diarrhea, skin infections, and other ailments. 3 year old are champ,
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has been feverish for days. ever since the floods badly damaged his family home. and they've had to sleep out in the open. he didn't get any medical treatment at the start, because the family couldn't afford to go to the doctor. writing a book order that my son fell ill a few days ago on a burger. i didn't have the money to bring him here, but i found it as a doctor. the doctor says he's got malaria. i think he's getting a bit better together. well, they're either arkwin, i am, i recorded and retained alive for safety that the stagnant water means mosquitoes. couldn't quickly spread malaria, but medical facilities are basic in this remote area of the southern sinned province. at each kumar runs a small practice and is always busy. most of his patients can't afford to pay some damn more of that, but we can't really treat patients for free to live,
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but we do it anyway, but they still have to pay for the medicine a. but there's a lot of disease starts out. most of the children often have several illnesses at once, because they're drinking contaminated water, but you, it'll die again with money vinegar. it's not just medical treatment, which is lacking. food is also in short supply. most of these market traders are farmers whose fields are flooded. they also have to deal with the extreme heat. i say, yankee lay on my house and the harvest have been wiped out yet a sudden there's no shelter from the heat in the water and the fields are still waist deep. they did a vine. my business will go bust and she hadn't to hear it hasn't rained in this region for about 10 days, but the water cannot run off because the ground is saturated. scientists fear the harvests in the next 2 years will fail.
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it jazz ali and his family are in a desperate situation. their house is uninhabitable. pos of the roof has collapsed and they live in fear of the next rain full. and then there are oklahoma that the government has to help us. our home has been destroyed or rocky, the children are sick and we have no work. i'm really worried about you are in my unit again. i have not been channels. there's no food and the family is having to survive on a few cups of tea a day that will not sustain them for long. well, the day's almost done, but as always, the conversation continues online. we're looking forward to hearing from you on twitter, make sure to follow our team under at dw news and myself nicole underscore frilly, but for the time being for me, the entire team on the day. thanks for spending part of your day. but
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