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ah, the green deal between russia and ukraine was the 1st major diplomatic breakthrough since the war began. some even saw it as a 1st step towards peace. but now the fragile accord is once again on shaky grout. vladimir putin falsely accuses the west of hoarding and wants to renegotiate. meanwhile, he continues to weaponized energy supplies coming out of russia, threatening to freeze europe in the winter of countries there. go ahead with a planned price cap on russian gas. i'm nichol freely, him, berlin, and this is the day. ah, therefore, we will propose a price on russian gas. absolutely stupid decision thrushes actively manipulating the gas market. we won't supply gas oil or cold. he always try to.
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blackmail is us. we will not supply any thing that hurts our interests. we must cut rushes, revenues to push fortune uses to finance is atrocious. warn you print also on the day ukraine says it is willing to pull the plug on the supper regia, nuclear power station. to prevent a catastrophe, cave has already told residents living nearby to pack up and leave momentum shelling as there is not, mary is explodes and everything returns to normal. it that the power plant? yes, that's reading. so gary freshman, ah, we begin the day with a president looking east lottery, potent host, said the eastern economic forum and rushes port city of bloody rostock to day. it was an attempt to find new allies and firm up existing friendships as moscow turns to asia in the face of unprecedented western sanctions over the war in ukraine. at
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the same time, he began to burn whatever bridges were still left with a west and a bellicose, the appearance potent threatened to turn his back on. the un brokered grain deal cut off energy supplies to europe and insisted that despite economic pressure and terrible losses on the battlefield, his country was doing just fine. i think you can wish to we, i'm sure we haven't lost anything and we won't lose anything. i hear russia is coping with the economic, financial, and technological aggression of the west. i'm talking about aggression. there's no other word for it to believe you are doing well, you foreign currency exchanges and stock exchanges have stabilize. inflation is down, water unemployment is at an all time low that he just come, minimum form good, where someone to isolate russia, a motor is illiterate, but as we've always said,
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that is impossible. you see them with them. you only need to look at the map left the post up of the neck after a motor through is probably worth thinking about limitations on green exports and other food stuff to europe. i will definitely consult the president of turkey, mr. air on this matter. because there's a way that you asked about caps on our energy prices when you see them. not sure because i mean that unless you did it, that is an absolutely stupid idea. the issue is if someone tries to implement it the way it will not lead to anything is good for them. so anybody well as to underline their differences, just hours after putin said a price cap on russian gas would be stupid. the european union said it was considering just that it wants to set a limit on what buyers can pay for russian gas imports. the aim is to help households and businesses struggling to pay their energy bills. european commission president, it was a fund lines that put in black mail,
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had to stop. we aim at lowering the costs of gaps. and therefore we will propose a price cup on russian gas. of course the objective is very clear. we all know that our sanctions, deeply grinding into the russian economy with heavy negative impact. but booting is partially buffering through fossil fuel revenues. so here the objective is we must cut rushes revenues, which put in uses to finance his atrocious war and ukraine. my 1st guest is samuel r romani, he teaches politics and international relations at the university of oxford in the u. k. he's also the author of the upcoming book putin's war on ukraine and examines why boot and opted for all out regime change in ukraine and looks at the future implications of the invasion, mr. romani. welcome. so good to see you. we saw
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a very defiant putin again today he even said that russia had lost nothing in launching the war. what do you make of that? what does the message that he asked to convey? he's always been trying to convey the matches. the sanctions that have been imposed on russia are going to be ranking of unintended consequences are much stronger on the west, especially in the energy sphere in terms of freezing of europe and also russia. she'll that is immense. military losses and has been reported officially on casualties since the end of march. and the agile is running now at $15.00 to $20000.00 lowest toys and they're now at risk of new territory anchors on. whereas the russians make the counter ventures that you crane is launching, is not sustainable. so his lot to cover up the truth is, and i think that's fair to say that russia hasn't gained anything in the past 6 months. how big of a miscalculation has the invasion been forbidden? willing dasia. you guys didn't have good back operations. recruiting only one scope . it sat consolidated, the, his regime. i mean,
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the public is behind the war for the most part, at least in the short term, the liberal opposition has been washed. the development of all these and karen was in jail. and the hybrid narrative was totally warburg, russian from the west against russia hasn't quite compelling at home. but aside from that, when the war has been catastrophic for russia, they've asked several stations that even their own internal reports suggest may not lead to a full recovery. the russian g, d, v by the end of the decade, even if the initial crash was less than 0, it lost access to military technology or so up in stockton. and they've all the game tres on and lines can even persons under threat. those sanctions are precisely the reason russia is looking to pivot towards the east, but only 2 countries and top representatives to the economic forum and vladivostok . today are asian countries more reluctant to engage with moscow than putin would like to believe at this stage. but i see general question because susan,
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talking about more people already in a really intense whales, ever since you took over the presidency and especially since 2014 when they 1st next crimea. aside from a major deals in the defense, years and dangers of extract from mineral and oil resources, these non western powers have not really given significant security since to russia when russia might need it. like, for example, china does not help russia with the war. and also large scale investments in russia's economic development. and what we're seeing, the checking on the forum is that inability to convert rhetoric and transactional relationships, if you're truly deep, long term strategic partnerships. those telling that lesion shoe, the chinese number 3, is the only person there and russia is having to science most consequential deals of the forum with me and mars into yeah, that's quite telling. let's keep talking about china because the relationship between voting and changing thing is, is quite fascinating. both are going to meet for the 1st time face to face next week at food and has described the 2 countries relationship as having no limits and
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beijing refuses to condemn the invasion of ukraine. what exactly is china's role in the conflict? well, i think china is wrong, accomplish shows, and it's a closed partnership and actually has limits and like what goodness and sex they've chinese has not condemn russia. they've said that condemning russia is deal of curious diplomacy in peace, not to position many others in the global south, like india, the arab league in the african union member states, also take that's not unusual. and they've also launching information war against the west. that blames the warranty to expansion covers up. so, russia's worst war france was on butcher, and a bred purchased ass. and if you get a manual coal as well and gas, but aside from that, they don't provide any kind of military assistance towards russia in terms of the major infrastructure and technological projects like cars and aviation parts. it actually been reducing their sales and not supplying the of those sort of parts.
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and their major stayed on companies including wall way had moved their employees to other countries because it's dan or been worry about investing new projects because the fear is secondary sanctions. so there's a strong partnership with china does not want to criticize russia, but again it lacks g depth and certainly a limited partnership, not no limits. one another topic couldn't touch on during the form. it was the grain deal. why is the threatening to tear off the agreement? well, the green, dea, 1st of all, was not meant to be permanent, at least in the russian point of view. it was $120.00 days until november and then it would be assessed and then the decision would be made to renew it. and the russians are threatening to scrap the deal obliquely. but now i think he's getting more prominent from lab ra from the un. and now for booting, for a couple of reasons. first of all, if you will, the tensions are still blocking russia from sublime fertilizer, freely unintentional markets. even though the west denies that. they also sanctions a bell rushing potash, which are another obligation. but the west also makes that not to be
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a big deal. the 2nd thing is that russian rain has not really been moving out of the ports in your rent as quickly as much as they would like the ledge. now, not even one ship is moved. and thirdly, it's also by p r. the russians want to show that ukraine is re selling gag grain to rich countries and is trying to profit off of this and not really fulfilled obligation which to give money. yeah, give grain to the poorest countries, particularly in africa, and that's a very misleading charge. because when you grant, as result, ran to sweden, the united states, it's gone to countries like e d o via and he rang just dispatch 20600 tons of rain to somalia. so it's a mixture of p r and also russia trying to predict its own interest and is having problems next words, blaming them on sanctions fairly or unfairly. all right, so you don't think we're going to see another russian blockade and lexie. so for mission, conduct savings, the jo, i'd none, none of them have been telling me that dad, they would like to add in the deal. i think they just want to kind of renegotiate,
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it's terms in some ways and get there. why do you that not true? turkey and dad, or if you read or mean for all mediation brothers, likely chair by turkey, by through the original a guarantee, the greenwich, the united nations. and after the survey lab, rob me very clear. in his speech yesterday, you would appeal to the un and not to the western backers of ukraine who would never leave the table in the more informal setting interesting stuff, samuel romani from the university of oxford and the okay, thank you so much. thank you very much. ah, the world is still reacting after nuclear inspectors from the united nations war, and that a catastrophic incident could happen at this upper region nuclear power plant in ukraine. since russian troops took control of the facility early in the war. kevin, moscow, i've been accusing each other of risking a disaster by showing the site your abs, largest nuclear facility is now disconnected from the grid after shelling cut its external power lines. and for the time being it's running on the back of diesel and
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generators. but there are concerns about what could happen if the generators failed or ran out of fuel. the head of ukraine's nuclear agencies says the government is considering switching off the entire station before any of that happens. more than more dc, we can potentially get into a situation where we run out of diesel. the kinship in this can lead to an incident with damage to the active zone of the reactor. i was pushing that would release radioactive material into the environment with production. ready of caution sort of show you some, it would have consequences not only for ukraine, it would surely have consequences beyond the countries borders. it's something we must avoid. novelty is up. and i'm now happy to welcome charles casto. he's
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a nuclear safety expert and worked in japan for a year following the focus she, when nuclear accident in 2011. doctor casso, then served as the american governments lead nuclear representative. mr. casto, welcome to the day. first up, how big do you think the danger of a nuclear disaster is right now at this upper regia power plant? oh, thanks. remo, nicole. well the, the dangers, it's unprecedented to have this situation. nuclear power plants are not designed to be operated in a war zone. so it's definitely a dangerous situation. it must be monitored in prepare, we must prepare for any eventuality that could happen at that station. there has been a lot of talk though about the plan being quite robust, that a plane could potentially crash on to wait. and the structure court with sandy impact. whatever missile actually did strike a reactor. well, the edge, as you said, because they have been tested for that and you know, it would take quite an impact for anything to hurt the reactor itself. what i worry
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more about is the dry fuel storage that's nearby in canister is concrete. canisters at the facilities, those can essentially become what we always call a dirty bomb and may limit the access to the facility, which would cause even more problems. its axis is limited for the reactors in indo, providing them power and water. you demand ideas and leadership to protect the plant. does that mean that you're not seeing enough of that? why would i would do more? i would plan as an extreme crisis leader. i would always get ahead of the accident . you must get ahead of it. you must expand your capabilities and you must have act faster than the accident does. so i've called for a staging area for a rescue mission for the reactor should something happen. we learned that it fukushima, that a staging area called j village,
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away from the station about 10 miles away from the station, or 18, somewhere around a turned 18 miles away from the station. and i would do something similar here where you could store the diesel diesel fuel that they were talking about. we need deep more diesel fuel for emergency diesel generate where you could store other sand, other equipment that you would use to rescue the reactor in the event of an accident . now your crane says it might have to shut down the plant altogether with that lower any of those risks that you just named it would go plants operate it full power normally. and when they shut down, they still generate electricity. heat, much as a pot on your stove, when you shut off the stove, the pot still was hot and you have to remove that heat. but the longer you go, the more heat that dissipate. and alas, hazard there is so shutting down reactors within the saying always is the safest reactors of shut down reactor switching off europe's biggest nuclear power plant.
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i'd imagine that's not as easy as it sounds though. how would that work was easy to shut down or actors as easy, the electrical supply that's more difficult to make adjustments to that, especially if you wanted to divert that electric supply. the same thing happened in japan when you started out with $54.00 reactors and eventually within a year or so, all the reactors were shut down in the country, readjusted its electrical supply to accommodate the shut out of all those reactors and in ukraine. right now. unfortunately, there's not much electrical demand what the workers have to stay behind because there is a lot of concern about them. politicians have said that they're not workers anymore, that they are there as hostages, that they are working at gunpoint would people who are now work there, have to remain to oversee the facility. well, that's another option is to have someone in the state here who can go in and
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replace those operators in the news from the i. e, a mission is fairly positive on that they, they conclude that the operators are grading operators are still in command of the reactors. so that's, that's very positive there. so at this point, but my position is, or should be some contingency should something happen with were the operators are either overly fatigue or are not able to, to respond to the, to the reactors. now for the situation at hand, if the electricity were to cut out while the plant is still operational, what would happen? well, this is was talked about earlier, emergency diesel generators would run and they have about a 10 day supply of diesel fuel and more on the station now. and but at that point, the 7 percent decay heat as we call it, the decay heat would greatly dissipate. so that would be much less of a threat after that 10 days or beyond nuclear safety expert. charles castell,
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thank you so much for this insights. mexico ukraine is making progress in its counter offensive against russian troops and the southern and eastern parts of the country. that's according to the u. s. based institute for the study of war. the think tank release this mat you're about to see showing areas where significant fighting occurred over the weekend. those areas are mainly along the border of the her son region, but also in the eastern lu. hans and don, it's provinces. ukraine claims to have liberated multiple villages, but has not named them citing security reasons. and our correspondent and key mathias bullying has more on the ukranian counter offensive. we've heard about successes in the south for some time. we don't know how well they're able to consolidate them. we don't get the full picture. there's little access to the front lines at the moment for journalists and so there are questions that remain them,
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but we have with the picture that the ukrainians are indeed advancing. there is, it is getting more and more is getting more and more confirmed and in the east we are hearing now similar things. the push a push onto the front lines from the ukrainians. that seems to be that seems to be moving on. they seem to be some successes, so a lot of pressure applied there. we don't know whether the objective is to really move forward fast there or just to keep pressure high on the russian troops there. so russia could not deploy them from there to the south. for example, that's something that's how that has been some speculation about. but at the moment it looks as if the ukrainians are having the initiative on the in the hawk of region and in their own region. and that's off to russia. i've had the initiative in the dorm bus, but also in other areas for
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a very long time. i me here in germany, lawmakers have paid tribute to late soviet leader of michelle gorbachev, who died last month at the age of 91. the president of the parliament described him as a great liberator who changed germany's history. the tributes came as germany is bona soc, returned to business after the summer recess. the 1st session saw them sharp criticism aimed at chancellor left shots over his policies towards ukraine and russia. the bonus tag began at session commemorating former soviet leader gorbachev, whose policy had ended the cold war and bridge the gap between the soviet union and the west. russian president vladimir putin. renunciation of this path and his war against embattled ukraine has led to the crisis situation that germany and other western states have to deal with. we have gotten, the more we will do what is next? that is all,
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it is exactly along that policy line closely embedded in the alliance with our friends around the world that we support ukraine and will do so for as long as necessary. opposition leader cedric mats from the conservative sit back at the chancellor telling him he is not doing enough to support ukraine. he also criticized the government for sticking with its plan to eventually shut off nuclear power through old sites. for the time being, this capacity must remain on the grid army. this will lower prices. this will reduce costs for companies. if you have people who have told you that and it should be anything but an exaggeration. esau, mister chancellor, stop this insanities and is in chancellor. charlotte's replied that his government had solved problems before the opposition had even identified them. he called out the conservators saying they were responsible for germany's reliance on russian energy, as well as its slow progress on renewables. the van,
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or you were incapable of bringing about the expansion of renewable energy's you for defense of pedals against every single wind turbine. and every defensive battle in the last few years is still hurting our country today. that was you, those, the government and opposition agree that energy prices need to come down. but fundamentally disagree on how to reach this goal. ah, in pakistan, millions of people who've been affected by record breaking floods to are now confronting the threats of waterborne diseases. tens of thousands in hard head provinces are falling ill after drinking contaminated flood water. dr. say they've been treating 1000 suffering from diarrhea, skin infections, and other ailments. 3 year old are champ, has been feverish for days ever since the floods badly damaged his family home. and
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they've had to sleep out in the open. he didn't get any medical treatment at the start because the family couldn't afford to go to the doctor burial book ira that my son fell ill a few days ago because i didn't have the money to bring him here. but i found it. god, the doctor says he's got malaria, i think he's getting a bit better because when i go either i can, i am i recorded, i read, analyzed for safety, that the stagnant water means mosquitoes couldn't quickly spread malaria. but medical facilities are basic in this remote area of the southern sinned province. i teach kumar runs a small practice and is always busy. most of his patients can't afford to pay some deck m a, but we can't really treat patients for free to live. but we do it anyway, but they still have to pay for the medicine. i think there's
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a lot of disease that most of the children often have several illnesses at once, because they're drinking contaminated water, but few it'll die again with money vinegar. it's not just medical treatment, which is lacking food is also in short supply. most of these market traders of farmers whose fields are flooded. they also have to deal with the extreme heat. aside again, katie lay on my house and the harvest have been wiped out yet a sudden there's no shelter from the heat in the water and the fields are still waist deep. they did a vonny. my business will go bust actually hadn't to hear it hasn't rained in this region for about 10 days. but the water cannot run off because the ground is saturated. scientists fear the harvests in the next 2 years will fail. it jazz ali and his family are in a desperate situation. their house is uninhabitable,
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pass if the roof has collapsed and they live in fear of the next rain, full. and again, there are oklahoma that a government has to help us. our home has been destroyed or rocky, the children are sick and we have no work. i'm really worried about the wearing a mug unity again, i have that open channel. there's no food and the family is having to survive on a few cups of tea a day that will not sustain them for long. well, the day's almost done, but as always, the conversation continues on line. we're looking forward to hearing from you on twitter, make sure to follow our team under at dw news and myself nicole underscore friendly, but for the time being for me, the entire team on the day. thanks for spending part of your day. but ah
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