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at t w's dot com. ah, lines of people as far as the i can see all waiting even overnight to bid a final farewell to their queen. the body of queen elizabeth the 2nd is lying in rest to night inside saint giles cathedral in the scottish city of edinburgh. now the public, they will file pass this coffin, the coffin of their late monarch all through the night, but that still will not be enough time to accommodate this gigantic expression of scottish affection. it is painfully clear that the scottish people loved their queen and all that she stood for. will they ever feel the same about their new king? i'm break off in berlin. this is the day. ah,
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it did, he will. it is an opportunity, as it was yesterday for scotland to express how much the queen at means to us and what she was made. the fact i just can't, i cannot believe that the state of such a station. i love the women who are here today and i think she really can don't play to help people. there will be a honeymoon period for charles, i think yeah, absolutely. i'm needing to see or you think it just for me to is really, really emotional. a privileged it will remain to be seen at charleston command, i guess the same loyalty that his mother had also coming up a remarkable movement along the battle lines and eastern you crate a rapid advance to territory that have been invaded and taken by the russians. what
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is going to be reported during the retreat russian troops quickly abandoned their positions and fled deep into temporarily occupied territories or the russian federation boulevard. this trend persists south and then sir, is buddy hi ah, and to our viewers watching a p b s. in the united states, into all of you around the world, welcome that we begin the day as they bid farewell to their queen. a week of remembrance and mourning for queen elizabeth. the 2nd is now underway in the u. k. as we speak, her scottish subjects are standing in long lines quietly waiting their turn to file past her coffin, which will lie in rest until tomorrow. that's when it will then move onwards to london. queen elizabeth passed away last week at the age of 96. the final moments of her life and of her reign, they all took place in scotland. and that is where our 1st report takes us to night
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. ah, the long good bite. queen elizabeth continues the centerpiece of a long day of ceremony, and scotland was the procession of the queen's coffin down the capital cities royal mile. thousands lined the streets to pay their respects as the new king charles. the 3rd and his 3 siblings, led the procession to saint giles cathedral where a short ceremony followed. for those who came out to view the events, the sense of history was huge. i just said it had to be here. this is let me just on the do say in santa historical moment and what part of history and i can tell my children, they'll tell me your children, wendy. just continue just because of history. yeah. just a part of history to life thing and obviously like as america really,
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i'm here mostly because it's such a momentous occasion that we can. so we were all saying there's no, quite the same bill to watch on via i won't spill to come your be with everybody because it is a mass morning that we're all going through and it's really sad day for everyone. this is scotlands chance to say its own good bye to the queen. tens of thousands are expected to visit the cathedral to view the coffin before it is flown to london on tuesday afternoon. for making his way to edinburgh for the ceremonies, the new king was in london where he addressed representatives of the houses of parliament for the 1st time since coming to the throne. in his address, he paid tribute to her. the queen honor to pledge she made as a young woman to devote herself to her country. this vow she kept it with unsurpassed devotion. she
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set an example of sofas duty, which with god's help and your counsels, i am resolved faithfully to follow his words reflected a theme which has been in evidence during many of the events since the queen died. a focus on the future of the crown, as well as it's past. and my 1st guest tonight is murray leif. he is a professor of political science at the university of the west of scotland. he is also co author of the book, scotland, the new state of an old nation, and professor leave. he joined us tonight from paisley in scotland. it's good to have you with the professor. i'm talk to me if you can just about the, the real, the human aspect of this. i mean, what are the scottish people,
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what are they morning to night there in st giles cathedral? well, the morning, the passing of the only monarch, many of known and wild, social and political site of scotland has changed significantly over the last 7 decades. she has been the one constant. scotland now has its own parliament and now has its own political system is distinct from the rest of the united kingdom. we know we've gone into europe, come out of europe with we've talked about independence with the one constant through this. as being queen elizabeth, me ask you that the scottish people, are they morning, the passing of their monarch, or are they morning, the passing of the british monarch? well, this is always somewhat confusing to people because of course, she is queena lists, but the 2nd of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. but she's
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also queen elizabeth, the queen of scotland. it's. it's a strange constitutional issue that you have one person who has more than one role. and when she, when she was in scotland, there is no doubt that she loved scotland. it was a very dear place in her heart. and she connected to the scottish people. and in a very distinct manner. and that's why when she came up here, she was a hollywood palace. she oh, the garden parties. so the r morning, the queen, who is both the queen of england, the queen of scotland, the queen of the united kingdom. but there also morning and queen who has a distinct scottish heritage and state police and scottish life professor, how has scotland since of identity? how has that shifted over these 70 years of queen elizabeth rain and how many
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people in scotland they still feel that they are british? well, it certainly is a something that has changed quite significantly and met many scottish people do feel british. the thing is, if you are someone have they are stopped, usually will certainly see. yes. and you ask them if they're british about roughly about a 3rd of people will say, no, they're still tish a 3rd of people will say, well, i'm british. i'm scottish scottish 1st and then a 3rd we'll see while i'm equally brits you since felt you should not certainly been something this changed over the last few decades when the queen came to the throne and in the early fifties, it was really the high points of britishness in many respects, and the united kingdom was that it was, it was a great you sion to t in very much seen as a singular entity. but over the last few decades, which seemed the emergence of scotland as a distinct social setting, as,
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as distinct political setting. and this, of course, culminated with the rise of the scottish national party, a party dedicated seeing an end in scotland. and we've now reached a point where scotland has its own ireland and the scottish national party, or the government of scotland. and the 1st minister is the head of that stock is national auntie that seeks independence or scope. and that was certainly something we never expected. and no one would ever respected those 7 decades ago when the queen came to the throne. yes, we've seen no real change. let me take you back to the 7 decades ago and, and where scotland saw itself in the british empire is it, is it correct to say that scotland has gone from feeling like it was part of an imperial power to this 21st century since
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that it has maybe become a victim in many ways of british imperial it's well, that is something that some people would argue, of course scotland is struggled of late. like, you know, the united kingdom is all to come to deal with it. some period passed and understand its role in history and its role as an imperial power. but, you know, you can study and read history to see that scotland was very much a partner in the united kingdom. it entered into a partnership with england to form the united kingdom. and it very much to engage in the british empire over the centuries that it existed. but at the same time, it's certainly also the case that some people argue the utility of, of the united kingdom to scotland has decline and, and scotland. now, sometimes people argue that it may not be an equal partner anymore, and it wants to reevaluate its relationship. and this is why some people would like
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to be independent. he would like to see scotland forge out on its own. it's managed to maintain a separate sense and so over the last several 100 years. and then once re establish itself as an independent entity on the international stage. but that is still an issue that's very much true consideration discussion within scotland itself. and i wanted to kind of focus in on that this notion of independence in what it would mean for the monarchy. i mean, we've got the, the scottish national part of the s and p saying that if independence referendum were held, if the scots were to say yes, we want to be independent. that would not change the monarchy. and that, that would mean the, the king right now of the u. k. would still be the king of scotland. am i reading that correctly? absolutely. i'm when, when the s and p lead force its case for scottish independence just prior to the
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actual 2014 referendum. we had a long discussion in scotland that a couple years where people spent a long time talking about the s and p largest laid out in their arguments and on several fronts. it was, in many cases, a somewhat conservative with a small c, obviously argument and, you know, scotland, when in certain states a school elements, i'm one of those would be the monarchy, the head of state would remain. then the queen know the king, should scotland become independent in that continuity would exist? of course, whether that's what the majority of scottish people, one or a significant minority, what scottish people, one is a very good question. and you can find poles that say run about 45 to 50 percent escort. people would like to, you know, keep the monarch and an independent school. and we can also find pulls that report
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a significant percentage. similar figures in some cases, would like to see scotland as a republic with an elected state. and you know, it points to this, what you and i discussed earlier today that the scottish beef is not with buckingham palace. it's with what's happening westminster, in london. and that connects again to the queen and the fact that so many of the scottish people have in still have this incredible respect for her and what she represented before we run out of time. let me ask you king charles, the 3rd do the scottish people in your opinion, do they see in him? what they were able to see in elizabeth says the is the short question, and there is no doubt that she spent longer on the throne than any smart. she spent a long time being present in the mind and the eye of the scottish people and the british people overall. and she established herself is very much he or the
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social structure, the constitutional structure. and of course, king charles is just starting out in his reign, and he is yet to be able to establish that in these next few weeks. and the next couple of years are going to be in will be. and how we will read to the old british shells, but especially to stolen professor marine leave for the university of the west scotland excellent analysis, especially for a global audience that is hungry to understand the monarch monarchy and its scottish connections. professor, thank you. thank you. ah, we're now to the war in ukraine keep says that its troops have liberated more than 20 settlements in the past 24 hours as they continue a rapid advance in the eastern har keith and don't ask regents. now the map here
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that you're looking at, it shows the frontline 12 days ago. and then yesterday and you can see the latest territory that ukraine says it has recaptured from russian control. that is in light blue. russia is dubbing its withdrawal from the region is to calling it a regrouping overnight. ukrainian officials is said that russian air strikes on civilian infrastructure had caused widespread power outages. ukrainian, president zalinski says that russia is deliberately trying to deprive people of electricity and heat. and today, the mayor of her heath describe these strikes as a russian reprisals for ukraine's recent territorial gains. this abandoned tank is one of many left behind in that panic russian retreat from the hockey region. in
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a nearby village vehicles and piles of ammunition testify to the russians. hasty withdrawal in the face of the ukrainian at fonts ukraine's military command has pledged to push on. although with those evening unless the lecount through the liberation of settlements from the russian invaders and the huck even done, as greeting continues, yet what is going to be reported during the retreat russian troops quickly abandoned their positions and fled deep into temporarily occupied territories or the russian federation of one of this trend persists, sat and then there was a body heights. the rushing command has played down to set back. and president vladimir putin has yet to acknowledge it and said, striking a defined note on western sanctions. i could do what i see it will lead in us, but i waited russia confidently handling the external pressure, essentially a financial and technological aggression coming from certain countries. it for them
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that they cannot make bullets creek tactics there were counting on haven't worked completely which is obvious to everybody including them. model it was actually the lithia feeling. it wasn't finished. putting silence has not stop growing criticism of the military's dismal performance. that could turn out to be a problem for the president. despite a harsh crack down on descent since the outbreak of the war hooting can still count on the russian orthodox church to be a pillar of support. oh, let them win a day as we live in a very difficult time. i pray a special one that was for the head of a state and supreme commander in chief vladimir without the middle aged putin. he bears a special responsibility. that's so bad, so bad yesterday. but should the war continued to go badly for russia? pressure will mount on the leader who not long ago seemed unassailable. ivan war, now we want to bring in just in crump. he's an intelligence insecurity expert in
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the c e o of the intelligence consultancy sibling. he joins me to night from washington, d. c. in the united states mister crop, it's good to see you again. it seems, every time we talk of the situation for the ukrainian military improves and that is the situation definitely to night, at least that's what it appears to be. and what does, what we're seeing, what does this tell us about the state of the ukrainian armed forces in europe in the week before that you sent me. combat power comes from 3 different areas, the, the physical. so what you actually have people tight gums, the moral purpose which you are fighting, and the conceptual. so you with and i think what for the here ukraine's make wait progressing. all those areas you, the more i this is why we knew that that is growing in given us from the west and what they were able to generate people. and it's like you sexual islands. where do
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i mean it's play here with this amazing operation distracting russians, hiding the gathering forces in my hockey and then pushing forward so successfully so false the, the receipt of the say. so i mean, the president zalinski, he knew what he was doing all along is, seems he's now for weeks, if not months, he's been telegraphing to the world that there's going to be a counter offensive in the south. actually that was meant for the east, but he, he said that knowing that it would draw russian forces to the south. is that what he's done? yeah, very much so, and i mean, oh, it is stress though i do think the comprehensive in hudson is also real. i don't want to diminish. this is not just a faith or a play. there is real momentum that there is a way to, to, to see i think what they did so cleverly was missing courses. not having a lot more available than perhaps people had expected. i'm being able to assemble them in secret and deploy them in the east. you and i talked before about the
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importance and difficulty is the section on the assignment. you ease of eylandt, satellites, social media as well. it's very, very hard to us and we'll keep that level of security. so an extraordinary ukrainian is together 5 brigades with nathan division, we saw secrecy. and as you said in depth and you know, we are see reports of it's astounding. ukrainian troops outnumbering russian forces . i'm in this section of the front line by as many as 8 to one. now, can you tell us how it, how can this happen, considering the fact that when we're looking at the cities of what is it could be on skin, is you which have been used as a staging pose for the russian invasion. how can they let their trip numbers be decimated like this? i'll be fed the claims of a to want to come from the russian side. and i'm pretty sure when you're on the receiving end of a assault like this,
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this making the most of what we call the new the war. every mobile, when you overwhelm your enemy in time and space by just hitting them. so i'm not sure they knew precisely how many people are facing on it, but this is all about grating superiority in a small area to overwhelm the enemy. so it's actually ukraine's concentration of seat with them. and they could uncharged, with an ahmed force originate, lots of medical courses on that. to break through the russian front lines, which were a bit of a shell in this area. it's when they sent forces to recover that were damaged earlier in the war. and they've never really rebuilt and then of course, once they go through nutshell, there was nothing behind it. and had the russians flap so often so far that it's been overwhelmed in that way. so it's all about concentration, of course, locally. that's been so hard to even this and you use the word collapse i. i've heard other military analysts using that word today as well. that's a, that's
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a serious word to be using when you're talking about this situation, particularly for the russian military. i mean, are we seeing a cataclysmic event unfolding right now for russia? yes, but within certain boundary, like it's a collapse of this post than she forces on this front, it wouldn't necessarily assist you. no, i think we should think, just as ukraine's involved, as far as that it can be maintained now cease to see ukrainian forces have to recruit russia at some time to try to build new lines so inevitable this route will continue. it might, and i think the most important thing here is the change of title by russian. commentators actually the open blaming, appealing to the 1st time, really these ideas and him being held slightly more through an account now. it's 30 days and that's the big change we haven't seen. they are doing this conflict like what russia next and how far far is right. but at the moment they should hold off
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to the south. they can possibly stabilize back, but yeah, definitely now on the back the position which is not with. ready after the failure of the keep offensive, you know, we, we saw a purge of russian military and intelligence staff, at least that's what was reported, considering what we're seeing right now. what is that going to mean? are we talking about something similar? magnitude it if so, what's that going to mean for the military and what does that explain why we're not hearing much from moscow? yeah, i think i'm quite the russell just there. how to react to this is cool them completely off guard there. sure. and they just have a speed of reactions change circumstances to do with that structure to do with them . and the is partly to do with that early last is actually of net them really back
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to many way be when they were both things they were struggling to purchase, not make progress to the team. otherwise they're going with their time. i mean, where do you find that failure? so many fine for that and there were left, again, they're running out of people late. one of the friends that previously been always floating about criticism in many ways. russians need being mentioned as actually he's responsible for this is a real change. i think they know how to react, so they can live with a escalate. this will be very, very odd. there is that morning. of course, if russia try swiftly, it couldn't be collapsed, which could be something that you see quickly at this point. again, it may have relied, they may hold what they have. i'm trying to give the wind. regardless, it's not a very painful being made in moscow, right. now and i think having to face, we'll failure in the right now the employment that just in crump is always mr.
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crump. excellent analysis. we appreciate your time. thank you. ah, with a passing of queen elizabeth. the 2nd will touch more than people in england and wales. king charles the 3rd becomes the owner of all of the mute swans in that part of the united kingdom. you see the might, there the animals have been considered property, the monarch since the 12th century. this royal prerogative also applies to sturgeon, a kind of fish, as well as dolphins and wells in british waters. and we did the dimension the docs. the day's almost done. the conversation continues online to find us on twitter, either dw news, you could follow me on twitter at brink. gov tv, and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see that if ah
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