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aah ah. my british manager, welcome to d w. news asia. glad you could join us. indonesia wants a new capital and it's spending nearly $33000000000.00 to get it. they denise and government plan is to move the capital from jakarta on the island of java. 2000 kilometers away to a new purpose built city called new sun tara, in east gallium. on time province on the island of borneo, the relocation is expected to take decades, but the plan is to move the 1st government offices and bureaucrats. they're starting 2024. but why move a capital? here's some answers. to carter is disappearing, slowly, being swallowed by the sea. an abandoned mosque, now a monument to the cities bleak future. scientists estimate as much as

a 3rd of it could be lost by 2050. millions are at risk power lamp us have got to rise level now higher than my home. why am i now living below the water level? maybe because the sea water is swallowing the soil, little by little that it but that's all i know. but yeah, but luckily we now have that see will that when does the little, i believe we do the defense, you know, showing cracks and the thousands of shut that door, the shoreline here flood regularly leaving behind, hazardous waste and pollution in the past. it wasn't like this, it was nice and the sea water was good. the beach sand was nice and we could still play in the water. now we can't do that anymore. the water's mackey and dirty floods. every high tide to carter. it dilemma to climate change

and per resource management. excessive brown water use has led to massive subsidence. the city is stinking. residents are heading. if not the higher groaned than higher floors resigned to chaos. west was today, i'm not so nervous about the flooding up budget. in the past, when the floods came, i used to tremble when i nearly drowned back in 2007 with all my belongings was swept away and i had to start all over again. but i'm but i'm, i'm a malay. no. the government to is planning a fresh start hoping to relocate the capital to borneo. such drastic measures aren't an option for the poor to cartons. living on the edge of this unfolding disaster. and gentlemen, are for more,

is dr. acres per man are sorry. she's an associate professor in urban design, add more national diversity indonesia and is currently in berlin. dr. pittman, i sorry, welcome, given that jakarta is literally sinking, is building a new capital. the only option well, as you mentioned, the current capital city is sinking at the rapid stage is the fastest thinking city in the world. and therefore there were so many attempts in order to rescue jakarta . now those of term seems to be failed. and now they're decided that they have to move to capital city to color mountain. now, talking about the movement where this necessary or not, of course, there is always been a debate. but looking at this from multiple perspective, for instance, finding a new location in center, calling one pan carriage to meaning sexually one is taking the power from the jeff and the center isn't. and even the chance or other location as the center of power,

right. as the government or economy. another thing is if the seen as a political move, which shows the world that colon landon as the center of the nation. so it's been how we all know the color montana bore me. i've been the source of oxygen not only for indonesia, but also for the world by putting this capital city. it is a bold statement that this is the center of indonesia. so i think there are 2 things. yeah. one is like attaching it from from their job and then i didn't, i did want to talk to you about that, but it's good that you brought it up. but having said that, i really would like to know from you. what does this mean for the people who live in regard to some 10000000 people who call got a home, where everyone now be able to move to santa rosa video? well, there are some faces for the most money. so for instance, this planning of the capital is starting from the 2022 to 2014 by the

1st stage at the 1st space is the 1st 2 years that is that your 2024, which there will be the core of government sector. yeah. and they will move the 1st one that they will move is not the whole jack that, that people, i think jakarta regardless is no longer capital. it will work as the center of economy. and remember, the jakarta carries layers of symbolism for colonial, your post colonial. so it, it will not lose its carry smile as a city, but this new capital by 2024. they will move the civil servants, the ministries agencies, employees, and all that our, me police and all that. so the 1st stage at the 23rd before their plan to have 488000 people. and then 2nd stage until 2029, they will bring more people and they will lay out some infrastructure and so on

until 2045. so i don't think they will move the whole 10000000 in your capital order. that's good to have a clarification. i do want to talk to you more about this move if you would mind staying on the line. dr. berman are sorry, because i'd like to offer our viewers now a glimpse of what this new city news on tara is supposed to look like. these computer direct images show a starkly different city compared to what jakarta currently is, lots of green spaces, an open walkways, a city surrounded by lush jungle, free from the congestion and pollution of the capitol. all residents are expected to be within a 10 minute walk of green spaces and every high rise is expected to be constructed in eco friendly manner and be energy efficient. so clean, green and high turn. but as building begins, locals and environmentalists already warning of the impact did of those asia

pacific bureau chief guild motus reports carving out a presidential dream. this is where one day the heart of indonesia, new capital, will beat on a remote patch of land deep inside a vast eucalyptus plantation. for decades in the nation, governments focus on the development of the island of java and it's crowded and congested capital jakarta. but president job daughter wants to change that and bring money in development to the island of borneo, to starting from scratch at this point. $50000.00 soccer pitches of eucalyptus plantation will over time. give way to new san tara. it me just new capital. it's supposed to be a green and smart global city, a capital set to draw all its energy from renewable sources, surrounded by a lush rain forest. but not all of the area plans for the future. metropolis is yet old by the government. and that poses

a problem. the indigenous population often lacks papers for the lance they have left on 4 generations. tells me this local chief. and he says they are not being offered a fair deal. e back to learning iris from jakarta. but these rules don't fit here. the price of land in the new capital area is already $1300.00 euros per square meter. but we're only being paid till euro's per square meter. what is that? if we sell, where can we buy land again? anywhere around here that's impossible. they're slowly driving us out. cynical, gara movie damica who are the custom on the local government representative tells me there are clear procedures for compensation. nobody has to worry. he sees becky economic benefits on the horizon for both the locals and for newcomers he hopes to attract from java. 1.9000000 people are supposed to reside in new san tara

. by 2045. it appears that there are no earthquakes notes in armies. huh. there are no social conflicts involving tribal, religious, or racial issues. it's the ideal many indonesia here glanced back in was how many 80000 bible. but what about the city's impact on the nature outside its boundaries? for instance, on the mangrove forests for the downstream in the delta of malik punk around sunset, they thought to come and flip the horn. aaliyah conservation is colonel villard shows me a family of protected proboscis. monkeys. she fears that sediment and pollution from the new capital could destroy the prestige landscape. here the b will be like a cancellation gate to the capital area, right? if the watergate, the chemical area is, and on the same time, it is where all of those products that speed, if are there. the government has recently announced plans to enlarged the existing

mangrove forest. but what is not clear yet is how all of this is been paid for. with 80 percent of the financing for the new capital expected to come from the private sector. the government's vision of a green capital could end up being at odds with the reality of big business demands . dr. fermanagh, sorry, i think you have that report. i'd like to get your views on this as well. how environmentally sound all the plans for the new capital? well, i think bad report base of very good and capturing the situation on the ground while the policy seems to cover all good aspects, you know, like they have all this a principal. yeah. so for instance, deciding based on the nature of the conditions that were cillian, low carbon emission and so on. and they can split those of this 8 principles if the star can keep for him. so the 75 percent green area for the couple of complex and

so on. but beauty in mind that this is the very top down of policy. and, and the question remains like, how would you translate that to the local context? how can you and show that these things to be implemented? yeah, and are they ready, you know, the community, the local stakeholders, and if you will like to have this as a green lock as well as possible, we have to work on the ground, not only on the top level. i think this is something that the governments should be aware of, and i think this is that we'll be discussing in the coming month. we'll have to leave it there for the timing, but thank you so much for joining us today. dr. take out paramount as already from one i should have seen denisia. thank you so much. you're welcome. thank you. and that's it for today will leave, you know, with images of capitals built from scratch whether it's new santa you see here, behind me or molest. yes. put a die up or camera in australia. it's expensive,

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