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w. ah. everybody knows that children are a big commitment in financial times to a while. it's not common knowledge. is that making babies or effectively freezing the desire to have children can be a profitable undertaking. in 2014 a story about big tech companies paying female stopped a freeze that exiles make global headlines. tech dies apple and facebook say they will bail for employees on facebook who pay for their female employees to freely race to pay with. will women who elect to freeze their eggs less than 5 years later, a major american fertility services firm called progeny celebrated its floatation on the stock market. the fertility sector was officially open for big and lucrative

business. when i got a bill for the they're raised that for us 100000000, i need one very well. i was on the governor forbes magazine when we raised that money, healthcare is a growth business and everybody will always need health care. and as we get older, we probably will get any more help. but of course, the fertility world is very commercialized, already online and promoting the baby making industry now seem omnipresent. we'll do everything we can to make your choice. we'll kill money also plays around of course, each puncture cause in between $2.00 and a half to $3000.00 euros. think see, i think private equity money is interested in this tendency industry for a number of reasons. when people want to have children, they prioritize their expenses in relation to reproductive treatments. even if there is, if a session going to one go, they'll will as an over bang. we want to offer our services in countries around the

world to provide it. it's legal, there's yeah, legality in the future. sex will just be sags and childrens will be made by a i v f and that i'm but i mean i mer technology entrepreneur focused on ah, health care and focus specifically on for daily d. i started getting involved with the field of for the lead, the when my wife and i had difficulties having a baby. so we enter the field though for the lead the us patients. we then successfully had 3 children. and while being a patient in the us, because this was happening in the u. s. in miami, while at the waiting room of the for the, the clinic, i felt i thought like a tech entrepreneur,

this is just so poorly organized. like i, i felt i felt for dvd, could be greatly improved. a growing number of people came to postpone having children. and when they do want them, it often turns out to be a very difficult process. an experienced at martin voss abaski knows 1st hand, but being an entrepreneur, he also saw a business opportunity. he became a major market player, offering a technological solution to a biological problem. i think having a biological glock made a lot of sense when people died at 35, which is only a 150 years ago. we now have the 1st generation of women who's, who will spend more time in men of boss that they spend fertile. so why should women pack older children very early in such a long life? i think we will be able to get rid of the biological globe by what prelude offers.

now, my kleenex, i'm many other clinics by where the number one group of kleenex in the u. s o for in these, which is like freezing. we where the leader scenic freezing the us an egg freezing . he said, very good way to stop the biological clock. if you think of for dvds, a bread and an oven, meaning the embryo, the bread and the uterus is the oven, the problem 95 percent of him for did he the gazes of women, arb with their bread and 5 percent with the all of in the oven worse. of course it doesn't work well. if you don't have enough eggs, people want the party and party and i have a good dime on work. spain has the low was for dvd of europe together with italy. so by the time spaniards want to have babies,

they need to go to an ivy if clinic, many of them to give you a sense that the united states has 330000000 people. and he has 200000 ivy f cycles. and spain has 45000000 people and has 800000 ivy of cycles. so spanish article for daily di what germans are the gar, so i don't know it's, it's something that we are there for, did it? the science has grown very well in spain. spain has developed into the hot, bad fertility treatment in europe, offering lots of private clinics, small in vitro fertilization, or i the app. when as washkinski puts it, there's nothing wrong with the woman's oven, but the ingredients you're working with the past that sell by date. there is a solution for that. 2 egg cells stored in a bank. and in the middle of next year in 2012, there were no over banks in europe. she went on your nearest house when i came from

the united states, after having worked there and in italy. but then this little hillock, i had a number of patents related to freezing eggs, l, w. and then we came up with the idea of setting up an over bank. american camera, which we opened together with our 1st fertility clinic in miami. yeah. wouldn't be, it seemed interesting because while there were a sperm bank, there was no equivalent for egg cells. didn't know via blanco's builders in cal audio. therefore, my molecules develop naturally in the to ovaries in a dose. oh, they receive growth stimulation from a hormone called f. s. h o. ramona kit. the names will shut. ask as himalaya fis yet, is she fully glow? could if the follicle grows and grows it, and when the egg inside it is mature and reaches the size of 18 millimeters, mitchell, it bursts open, and the egg separates itself from the ovary, then away, ah, equal in that follicle is discharged during ministration in new follicles are

created, they are stimulated by the f as h hormones, and while many follicles are created lost, the f s. age is sufficient for just one single follicle below which continues to grow while the rest of the mast shall have disappear. yes, if that follicle keeps on growing and the egg detaches itself and migrates along the fallopian tubes and leaves the body naturally via ministration. minnesota. ah, if i'm at the fia looking at all that most, we artificially administer the f. s. h hormone solo, fully glucose, so that not just one follow will grows, but all of them little for little can i say once the follicles are 18 millimeters wide, a minute, we take the patient in the surgery portion. i mean it, i isn't, it, didn't. we then puncture the follicles to remove the fluid, and the l. no, this was fully gross, extra. and then in the lab, when we extract the exiles,

even throw in a low and i told you, go, head closer, social brush. ah, the other no solos key when i'm when we gather all the eggs that the woman would otherwise have discharged? yes, i'm but so in that sense it's a harmless process. as a solo, a woman will lose $4050.00 or 60 eggs every single month miss is quite enough in gwinnett that is in dollars for this country and they see it by her late thirties and a woman's egg cell count as low. is that buffy which is sad, but that's why we're here or not, but this is what we do. is icicle membership, irreparable, at that he's fit, but his law is lovely. i leave out on top of her. we're now going to hung sure the follicles you see in black us sinback is so in order to extract the egg cells expert, i have little will,

but it. okay, now we're bringing the needle into position pain to lose he loss, and then we'll puncture the follicle unfold equal in the 19 ninety's, but dont' government launched a campaign complete with tv commercials. gold smart girls prepare for the future. the idea was to encourage young women to become economically independent by planning. ahead and making a career for themselves. shy, i was yeah. shall stone own sale of the 1st thing in the family, told me to phone go to him from a full of me company boot yells,

mash oak elevator, couldn't stand him. and that is what i do. ghost for the day these days, women who wished to postpone having children can have that eggs frozen in stuart for the future. this cafe in the netherlands was set up specifically to in all women about this option. evidently, the new motto is smart girls prepared to freeze time. well with welcome to kinda events, cafe for women who want to freeze the faces it kept in the police dots. you're black, i added pictures to the presentation or to make the magic easier to appreciate for non expert here. dizzy. now, for a states mirror, i always have a growing number of women are seeing their fertility decrease with age. it is tricky. the older you are out of the low, your chances of getting pregnant and you've been, you're not fertile for ever. well, isn't it took me to all out. sex education in secondary school is mainly focused on how not to get pregnant me to her mood, florida. we don't,

nobody talks to us about it. don't mean launch. it may i know we spend so much time trying to prevent unwanted pregnancy that we've forgotten the other side of family planning and actually telling and educating women about the impact of time on their biological options. and if you look at the strategies in the campaigns to reduce unwanted pregnancies and teenagers, they be hugely successful. but have we failed a generation of women that have now got into their forties and decide they now want to have children and realized that the biology has been against them. stewart ivory is a london based fertility specialist. many women have come to him seeking ivy f treatment, only to discover that they had left things to light. lavry started his own private clinic, offering his client, the technology for freezing the egg sounds. the huge thing that women have had to

deal with for generations is the age related. biological clock that has been ticking and the science is currently available to allow those women the options storing the eggs potentially to use them in the future. and i think probably the clue is to sing to this is what happened in the 19 sixties and early 19 seventies. with the advent of the oral contraceptive pill that gave women power, he gave women choice and autonomy over their own reproductive lives. about deciding when maybe they didn't want to have a baby. this technology may be the flip side of that coin. and it may be the ultimate in family planning to allow you to have a baby at the time of your choice. or he'll, how would he, a lot of women i know, don't want to have made a commitment to the said ne jane shall you live that we might korea. i went to korea nyja cation options for further development and to travel others. but they're

held back by biology here at columbia in i was here on the tunic, but when i was in my early thirty's, i wasn't thinking about having children with it. i thought there was still time for prince charming to turn up until you get older. and then you realize things all evades velvet again, neurons i know i want children, but not until i grow up to code van scott covert, sometimes i realized that i am already pretty grown up. i've been through it. yeah . it is. i think it's weird. everybody knows it in there, but it's just like you said, i wasn't thinking about it when i was 30 dr. downey to over. now, what's really attracted me to this field of egg freezing has been my experience in looking after women coming in at age 42, trying for their 1st baby. and the reality of us being able to help those women and help them have a baby at age 42, it's really low. and it's not unusual for women to say to me,

i wish i did frozen my eggs at 28. and i could use them now and have a really high chance of having a baby. oh, no, sir. almost all the follicles are empty to you. storing your eggs for the future is a relatively new option. in the netherlands, for example, it's been legal for only had decade women for whom it was too late to have that explosion can still turn to enrique crowder, a spanish embry ologist who had the clever idea of establishing a don't a bank was that obama z as in yet it i'll now show you the room where we prepare the containers and it on and from where we send the exiles to the various clinic loading. i don't want him on them on the 5th. the 5th is they say, elijah, this is the shipping department, the where the containers are prepared, open about

a look on the road. it met, they lost a overloads, didn't we put the egg sales in the containers? it case and make sure they're sent to the right clinic skill. some roosters holbrook meaning to see map which is in with but we have a lot of patients outside spain, looking for an egg cell donation. deeply dahlia from the likes of italy, britain, france, germany, and the netherlands for k and kat. by those countries, all have different laws in which a pace is left is left on oprah. even in many countries, exiled donations are illegal or rendered extremely difficult by law or noisy. i'm which i was gonna or there aren't enough donors. 15th is there such so patients from those countries come to spain because we do have enough for him to the street . the name on which i've been i'm. why is that? yeah. keenest pena law. we have been doing this here in spain for years most on yosh. e. oh yeah. 12 main thing. these days you won't find a woman around the age of 20 who doesn't know what an egg sell donation is that you

know, shape? i look is levin ask him builders in his band? yes, in the band you are allowed to use ads to find donors kind of an a mm hm. ah. well, opening the oval bunk was like opening pandora's box. we had no idea what the repercussions would be about a mile away. yeah, even nobody ever do that. my debate has a great geno topic diversity. i russell vivian don't. norway was vivian we have russians. norwegians, he does spaniards, italians, austria, french, and austrians over 150 nationalities here day, the steam dust and of in no shelters. look for professional. so when assigning donors, we make sure there is the similar to the patient as possible. i shop if a patient is blonde with blue eyes and we won't give her a brunette donor but,

and then what, and i go nowhere near me . what can you tell us about the value? do exiles have a specific value? no fiddle it what else? fiddle, and legal terms. they have 0 value as well, or exiles don't cost anything and you can't buy or sell them as me been there. but here i am nowhere well in europe, at least i can in order it socialism, which must it's more commercial and the u. s. a low exiles cost money there may be $5000.00 for example. think i mean though, that is brian gemelli that bordeaux know, how do you determine the value of an egg? so in this 1000 me up in the us eggs from an intelligent blond woman with blue eyes from california cost more than those of a brunette from miami. morena call home at,

on a one donor costs more than the other. go to moscow, those on and why. it's a question of supply and demand. the and did by myself in allocate years, le leave elevations will pay $20.00 or $30000.00 for a blonde donor from california. i mean, but only 5000 for a donor from miami. but because of the lower appeal to them, that is poorly stuff in miami. not because men are separate of feebler. it's a different world than i'm based in joining me now from cambridge in the u. k, as dr. lucy van to will a research associate at the reproductive sociology research group at cambridge university and author of freezing fertility. lucy, thank you so much for your time. so with this new research should we start regarding the age of 35 as a facility cliff? the question of 35, those are very much and not just the biological question, but the social question is linked to

a history of being out of concern around the biological clock. and that issue of the biological lucy font video is conducting a study on how our ideas and actions concerning fertility are changing. thanks to these new technologies builders enabling women to turn back their biological clocks . what's really interesting about a craving is that is changed. our idea and our feeling around for timothy, so oh, and there is this sense that we kind of become infertile earlier because the decision about this should you treat yourself. now in order to avoid infidelity in the future, is something that has become relevant that increasing the early ages. and at the same time, the idea that when increasing both and available the idea that at some point, you lose your fertility and that's over is now also changing and character cuz it can become something like, oh if only i trees frozen my eggs or i could have conceived

a child now or i'm trying to get pregnant and it doesn't work if only i'd chosen my eggs 10 or 5 years earlier. so there is this kind of dynamic that there is a, there is more agency around it and a different experience of fertility or something that in fertility becomes more relevant earlier on, but also fertility stage relevant later on in life as well. and the anal who's acre, the only certain de you're buying is having a chance later in life that you normally have now do a health side. that's the only certain key you're buying in fit and eat what happens or the ex raising is that, that more uncertain idea around shifted to you, or the idea that you have to manage it. rather than that, it's just a given is something that comes with an increased sense of risk. and, but also in order to mitigate that risk, you become dependent. you become dependent on technology. if you become dependent on companies, you become dependent on doctors. and so i think while sometimes it's presented as

a way of being empowered, you also become more dependent. and it also means that you have to then invest in and undergo a particular medical risks and also financial risks in that respect. so yeah, it's definitely a double edged sword. as a, as i flipped over the image, that brings up my next concern. may you decide to have exiles frozen, otherwise no happen and said, no, it doesn't really impact your life. her. i always thought i frozen my eggs and now we'll see what happens out as he nell and, but at some point i realized i did it for a reason. yeah, i would have to put them to become a mother the like milk, more than that makes it more real. and if max is, i'm a ville, you get the feeling i said aim so now i should perhaps also say b and b gave me reassurance, but not as long as i had hoped in rosemary. my niece, her long article hope from i was just a new blog. i come over one of the reasons that i almost didn't to

a shot at this dog was that having the option of getting pregnant up until i was 49 unsettled me? didn't you got okay, thank you. you live here by near, because either it's meant to be, or it's not a ford of each melanie to a lot of motto dynamite of having the option was a luxury problem to mobile from joseph. it made it difficult to make the right decision. i made him look, i couldn't stop thinking about it if need to go might that have been to be honest. i still can't even now and said the sofa and florida dirty dang d at. and we have essentially, you'll postponing a decision in order to have more time to think of the how to atlanta anchor. yeah, m f p as you're creating a c, if times a year to our new all to think about it, which is what bothers may. i also thought it might calm my mind to decide not to do it and close that chapter. i think it does bring extra pressure and extra choices like women and a low usually i think having choices a good thing. there's no doubt that sometimes choice brings more anxiety. but there

is a concern around the commercialization of this because many women that are freezing will not need the eggs. they will get pregnant, the old fashioned way with above that. and so we have to be very careful about persuading women to do this. when most women probably won't need it. and i do have concerns where organizations are on purely as commercial businesses, where the drive may be to advertise based on fear. and that's certainly not the right way. we should be handling this. she's known as the, with her glossy online commercials target hip millennials wanted to be sure that everyone knew that they can freeze their egg, just like everyone know that they can get their boobs. marketing ramos is guaranteed fertility in the future while banding,

about catch words like self determination and empowerment. all with an appealing veneer of viable success. in the u. s. they have some companies that really try to shift the focus from the group that currently freezes their eggs to a younger group of women. and so the idea is that they would convince women say even in their twenties to freeze their eggs. sometimes this is explained with an idea of peak fertility. so rather than freezing facility in general, they say you should treat your facility when you're at your peak. and then they would use marketing techniques, like for example, one company has a facility fans that like little bus that drives through city centers in new york and san francisco for example. and then they also offer free facility testing. so women can then have their hormones checked to see how far it's out there i am. and

so that's one way in which it's presented. and then one of the things that they say, for example, in that context would be, you'll never be more for hotel than you are today. so there's really that sense of, you have to capture your fertility now before it's too late. and if you are never more for it, then you, i'd stay and every day you're virtually losing your facility. so there it's kind of instilling the sense of urgency and it's often combined with a sense of empowerment like we are empowering you to take control of your biological clock. but it's also the instilling of concern about it. or maybe there wasn't any concern before if you talk about a company that would like to have more patience then, and this would be a way of recruiting more people and making more people into patients by making babies used to be cheap and still is. but most people in the bedroom at

no cost, but we're now may to think that we need to invest in our facility for later. it's a market that plays on our fears about the future. a kind of insecurity capitalism . i think private equity money is interested in the facility industry for a number of reasons and one of them would be ag, freezing. and, but also because fertility treatments in general are becoming more popular across the world. so more people are using all sides, all sorts of reproductive technologies. and it's also something that's called an, with resistance to the recession. and if a, if a key goal of a fertility clinic or fertility group is to grow, then increasing off as an opportunity to do that because he can have more patients coming in for increasing. specifically, the british pregnancy advisory surveys or be pass is

a charity organization aiming to offer an on it is to the growing commercial fertility industry that makes so much money from people's hopes and fears. for over 50 years, be passed helped women to terminate unwanted pregnancies. but today it is literally building a non profit fertility service for ivy f treatment and freezing excellence. we will have 3 beds here and then the nurses station there. so the nurses will go looking after the patient. and then we will collect and the tips with the fluid will be passed into the lab here for us to look for the actual yes, this is going to be a door for this. the, this is going to be the case for a not for profit. i be of service, this is the, this is the hub and it's very exciting. i had the bit of a problem with the issue with that the private patients were paying in and then a chest setting, the prices that are being asked for in the private sector. and

a lot of the financial gain that the hospital was making was being used to supplement other departments and often, atheist, the doctors that, oh, the medical doctors that own the fertility services or that get the financial gain out of it. and in my view, you know that, that that's something that i'm very uncomfortable with me. and once you've started the treatment, it's impossible to get out of faith. you are in a conveyor belt. so if people are offering you things that might help, it's basically impossible to say no. and those often come with an extra cause. so it's difficult for patients to budget for their fertility treatment. and you know, we think that, that these part of the challenge that people go through as well, the financial burden and the financial implications of not knowing how much money

they'll have to pay. ah, one fertility specialist in britain claims to have an even better solution for freezing eggs and an alternative to the painful procedures otherwise involved. i'm professor simon official. i come from a background in i v f in vitro fertilization. ah, being around at the very beginning, over 40 years ago, and part of the world's 1st ivy clinic. in fact, when louise brown became the world's 1st idea baby in 1978, that was wide spread outrage, a baby conceived in a test tube or to be more precise in a petri dish. but that opposition never deterred that. then young doctor, simon vishal. he's now planning to market a treatment originally used to help female cancer patients retained their fertility of which is now commercially available for any young woman. we live in a world,

this is how fast the world is changing. we live in a world where we can freeze eggs, but it was only about 10 years ago that you couldn't really freeze eggs. you could do it, but was unsuccessful. it wasn't, it wasn't efficient enough for you to offer it as a proper medical procedure. so there was no option to freeze x. so what people were doing years before that, they were taking a bit of ovarian tissue because we know that where the eggs are, and a woman is born with all the eggs that she'll ever have. in fact, she's born with a lot more than she needs may be about 2000000 and over time they start to deteriorate. she gets to the men, of course, she's got none left. so a woman has this pool of eggs that we call it. now when she's got a pool of eggs, it was believed that you could take that full of eggs and you could take some of the ovarian tissue out you could cut it up into tiny little pieces. i freeze in years later when she wanted how children you would take out the ovarian

tissue, put it back into the same woman, and it would stop producing eggs. those eggs could be fertilized and she's fertile . so they have preserved her fertility. there's another problem out there, not just preserving fertility. now here's the interesting thing. if you want to store your fertility, then you put it back near the reproductive organs. so you can try to conceive naturally. but if you just wanted to restore your hormones, you don't need to put it back near the reproductive organs. you can put anywhere with as a blood supply. and you could actually put it under the armpit, for example. and as long as it has a blood supply, it will kick start within about 3 months, and it will stop producing the hormones. one revolution has barely been

absorbed, and the next miracle is already being announced. the freezing of ovarian tissue, a development that would make it possible to delay the menopause. simon official is one of britain's leading fertility specialists. according to him, the waiting list all long probably it's worth thinking that maybe the best we can do at the moment might be to prevent the menopause coming on for maybe 20 years. even though you know, let's say it should have started when you were 50 and you'd frozen your tissue. when you were 30, you may get enough opportunity to keep your hormones going to prevent the men or pause, maybe until you're 70 in

increasing has revolutionized explanation as well. so that's am moving eggs from one woman into another woman. and so previously you needed to have 2 women in the same room around the same time in order to do that procedure. but now that you have frozen eggs and you can move the eggs across time and across space. so technically, a woman can donate her eggs in one country, and a woman can receive those eggs in another country if the exit shipped in liquid nitrogen tanks and from one place to the other. and, but you can also have much greater distance in time. so a woman may donate her eggs and another woman might received of eggs and maybe 10 years later, you get a very different dynamic in terms of what a donation is. and to what extent women and get to know each other and how they choose an act down or for example,

go on go. they'll willows as well as an over bank. we want to offer our services in countries around the world, provided it's legal. there is, if you're an arab countries, for example, it's still illegal. it's not very me that i'm going up in the world. but humbler allie money and germany is one of the countries in, of where the situation is unclear. whip indians this, while sperm donation is permitted their rulers exile donation is prohibited him in that although that's that to change more he mean door, but effect immediately if they were to amend the law to morrow monica, and make exiled donation. legal. he said we would definitely open an oval bunk there. it would. i mean, they gave us how to log into your finance. 10 years will be operating in every country where exile donation is possible. within a few the philly to convert everything went up on them. we have 50 these containers are special im, when up a lay contain patented electronics, which we used to track the ag cells. once they've been shipped out,

i'm all of the clover of our partners can do the same with the help of an app is that it is this full applica film. no application was for them, better protect the shipment. they can see the conditions where they like the atmospheric pressure and the humidity less gape. and this is interesting to me that the containers dps location, something lapaul she few on gps lyla. then the container is that we export a very large number of exiles. and so your spreading spanish genes across the well as tom would give under any think as pure or that's the plan is o bushel bristow. every new born baby will play the guitar and sing flamenco. think on you data. a. got done. the flamingo a bit. oh enough, but a mess up out of it. but seriously, it makes us really proud that these patients have been able to become parents with a little help from us. yes. how bochita and funky took on rest? are you there? no.

ah, many people feel a fertility is not a huge pressing problem, because for the last 30 years we've been talked about be worried about over population limit the number of babies people should be happy. but the reality of the new world is their populations are shrinking. women are having fewer babies and they're having babies later. so the populations of italy are shrinking. the population of the u. k. will level out very soon, even china, that country that has been so worried about over population and brought in legislation to control how many children you could have. china have realised they've got a big problem in the future. their population will be leveling before the end of the century. so china is now the world center of fertility treatment. people

may be surprised to hear that there are more ivy f centers in china than in any other country in the world. and this is something we all need to be aware of, that actually it makes economic sense for us to replenish the population that are gonna become taxpayers and gonna look after all of us in our old age and pay our pensions. and governments are becoming aware of mm so we're just this late governments, lucy, when it comes to encouraging women to have children. yes, i think that's a very important question because we need to think about it. if you have not only a biological or an individual issue, but it's also a social and a political issue. and you see for example, that x reading has sometimes offered by government who try to increase the birth rate. so certain areas in japan, for example, i have paid for women to freeze their eggs in the hope that they will then have

more children in other areas i. b s is promoted as a way of increasing the birth rate. and sometimes this is coupled to a nationalist or an anti immigrant rhetoric. so we see that, for example, in hungry where victor or been and has taken to do the, to clinics under government control and is offering theat under the rubric of we don't want immigration new one procreation. so we see that fertility and i v f is politicized. in many different ways me once i was invited by the king of spain and he asked me, what do you think the biggest problem of spain? nice. and he thought i was going to say the independent movement. so the youth unemployment. and i said, these countries not having babies and you're not going to have a kingdom, there's not going to be people in your kingdom. there's no going to be people in spain. and indeed, very say, very, the only reason there is people in spain is thanks to immigrants and massive immigration. by the way,

i'm oversee 40 migration m a m m immigrant. everywhere i've been any migrant in the us and immigrant in spain, but and i speak as an immigrant. but having said these, i don't think the solution to a gun tree can be to have your need, the population disappear and only have immigrants. i mean, i think the solution has to be some combination of more babies and immigrants. the only institutions that have decided the bay for dig. freesin are the state of israel, an apple phase, polk, microsoft, google, all the largest u. s. corporates, the also be for free seen. so i think it's quite interesting that that the large corporate and east rogue came to the same conclusion that it was a good thing for women to decide when to have a baby bad. nobody else did. we shouldn't lose sight of the causes of fertility issue. it is lifestyle to some

extent, but it's also very much environmental to we live in a toxic world. we can avoid the problems of the early breeze to the food we eat are having or, and it's generally estrogenic competing compounds that we call m. endocrine, bending compounds, anglican changing compounds. they're affecting our fertility. they're affecting men, sperm counts are affecting toxicity around the, the fluid around women's eggs. so we do live in a, in a world or were you, you combine the age at which a woman wants to start to get it to have a child with a toxic world. and that's one of the big reasons why our fertility is going down. are you feeling good? now? we found 14 excels, which is a great deal. know he'll some way. okay. thinking that's good news. right.

definitely good. new store saker here. yeah. the yes. that was my main worry wanting understand. agree. hello. fresh. yeah. yeah. hey, it's all, do you neg, 14. yeah. what about airfare? if it couldn't have a old r has picked it. wait saying the time it was real to have produced 14 acres. i feel like a chicken home as her kip. this is for hotel f. congratulations . thank you. thank you. i guess i think though, dana here for yeah, it's a great result for some one of your age. so on as i know crowd him or trail some women only manage one or 2 eggs i she so forth is called wow. so he's done very well for them on, so i'm 26 forever. the visitor? 26 class. yes. go. so my good yeah. 40

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