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oh, ready? no. welcome to take told me about hackers, paralyzing the tire societies computers then now some are you and governments that go crazy for your data. we explain how these technologies work, how they can make it, but how they can also go terribly. watch it now on youtube. it's often said that you will be judged by the company you keep to day. the head of the european union paid a visit to the president of ukraine. the message was clear, we have a future together. now, earlier this year, the president of russia and china celebrated their country's new relationship, one with no limits. but that was before russia became
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a political pariah waging war today, as the 2 leaders met again, another saying came to mind that maybe it's better to be alone than in bad company . i'm for golf in berlin. this is the day. ah, you have your european friends by your side as long as it takes. what i would like to say is that anyone who makes with, with plenty me potent remind him of the obligation that international leaders have to uphold the international rules of law. giovanni and china is willing to make efforts to work with russia as great powers. we highly appreciate the balanced position of our chinese friends in
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connection with the ukrainian crisis. we offense for ever. thank you for having yet to thank you so much. ah. also coming up in london, the queues are 456 miles long, thousands of people waiting in line to say good bye to the queen. but just going in there and, and just seeing her just lovely. i just, she's that piece now. um yeah, it's very, i just feel i've, i've done something which i think is right to pay my respects. ah, which, who are viewers watching pbx in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with the impact of war on relationships. today, the world's 2 most powerful authoritarian leaders, the president of russia and china, came together on the sidelines of
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a business summit. it was their 1st face to face meeting between she's in pink and vladimir potent since the russian invasion of ukraine began back in february. and while the chinese leader said nothing about the war publicly, russian president vladimir putin made cryptic comment suggesting that beijing and moscow may not see eye to eye. and this is important because at the start of the year, russia in china declared a new bilateral relationship without limits, it seen as an attempt to build a boar, work against the u. s. and western influence. now contrast these 2 leaders to the leaders of the european union and ukraine, who came together to day in cave, the optics and the messaging. here they were crystal clear, rushes invasion has brought brussels and keep closer together. we have more now and this report wanting like a meeting between old friends on her 3rd visit to ukraine since the war began. also
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a funding line received a warm welcome from president fuller, demure zalinski, and an award for our commitment to eat you ukraine relations. among the talking points, the $8000000.00 plus people who fled to each country since the war began in february . we want of course, to have to give our ukrainian friends when they need help as much support as possible. but we also know that they are longing to go home again. we even ask funded lines. night train made its way to keep rush in rock had struck. you're reza law dumb entreaty re an industrial center and presidents zalinski hometown. the resulting flood, inundated several roads and houses, and the local drinking water supply was cut rather than the drains aren't working. and we can't flush the toilet and was everything flooded. and there's been no one from the disaster protection agency here since yesterday evening. i'm just like
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a slashing hotel, a blue map. woo. president zalinski said the russian strikes on the city so close to his roots had no military value. and zalinski said that fact shows russia is intent on attacking ukrainian civilians what he, w. c. connelly, he has more now from the eastern ukrainian city of har. keith were, as you can probably see behind me, there is very little of her gift to be seen at pretty early evening hour because lots of people i've often feels in central majority have left and the ones who are remaining arc sticking tool. the recommendations keeping their curtains firmly shut and basically keeping off the streets critic, storage density of more than a 1000000 a half and occasionally only to see some cars passing a distance. a few very rare pedestrians, but it's a real contrast to the times before this war. started, i was here in mid february, when the u. s. government said that the war was imminent and people he just
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couldn't get there had run it. they couldn't believe that this was on the cards. and this was a thriving city with also tens of thousands of foreign students coming here from around the world who also took their cue from the locals and commenced. that being 40 comes away from russia. didn't necessarily mean that they were in danger. now since this ukrainian assaults, comprehensive in the east northeast of the country has done so well, we've seen some russian retaliation attacks. we've seen attacks on the energy infrastructure on the power system or the heating system rather, and extraordinarily, it's proved pretty flexible and resilient and able to restore their system. so most pot power is back, the metro is operating. and even though, you know, as i mentioned so many people have left those remaining are keeping the show on the road. but the question looking now to was next you months is even if russian forces are no longer in this part of the country, they are still only as you much they're 40 comes away on their own territory. so the risk of attacks of missile attacks of logs the to that is still there much there. yes evening, we heard a big explosion in the downtown,
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off of my hotel. and the error rates are ins only came on us, but 34 minutes after it's often it's so difficult to really tell when these things are coming and they're coming from such short distance that distance. he just can't really give anyone a feeling of safety or the at the real chance to get to a position where they can, you know, be protected from damage. so it is a very edgy situation. a city that doesn't really quite know yet whether to believe that the situation is genuinely safer and whether it's kind of time to go back sometime normality. there was nic connelly reporting there from ukraine. when you think of more heroes, you probably think of soldiers, generals medics in the worn ukraine. heroes also include postal workers who are providing a lifeline to people who live near the front lines. many of them elderly residents . ukraine's mil service continues to deliver vital supplies. in spite of all the dangers t w's. beckett a sugar followed one letter carrier near harkey. if luba hot car hits
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out when the air at elapsed up, she works in the north east of ukraine, delivering mail and cache pensions to people living close to the front lines. they never know when russian artillery might hit by cuba swallow, sophia, who jaquenn, what can i say the pension is know me and they wait to me when i was off wet for a man call some even call it and asked when i'd be back with him prior to what the, so it's not just about delivering pensions, she tells us many of the older people living here are completely on their own. like tatiana carver, her children and grandchildren have fled abroad. she's so scared of a text that she barely leaves the house. now, yeah, you must visit, is the highlight of her month or what she, she's very, very helpful. my guess she cares about us, brings us our pensions and news and explains things. oh,
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i'm going to cry. the post service delivers pensions and cash to more than $3000000.00 ukrainians, but they're also taking medication 1st aid kits protective di and even food. and that's crucial for people living near the front lines who often can't get supplies for themselves. the post headquarters in keith is wet, organized, eagles, me, lansky is in charge. responsible for 65000 employees who deliver all across ukraine being in the producer rewards. it's a huge logistical challenge. he says, and a dangerous one of them was a village for the cities for love until 3 days after certain new mining is done, become only congress pensions began was for food because products on bud than to war. and you have to be told of realistic whole things can happen in the war. 15 postal workers have already been killed at 14,
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injured to reduce the risk they changed delivery routes every day. after doing what they can to find out where is safe enough to send their stuff in the morning heritage and, and boats. appropriate authorities, security service for celebrations are armed forces are to get new information, word safe on, on, safe to go to day in lube as delivery district things have been getting worse recently. she says that as strikes almost every day one had this home on the west road. she tries to comfort the couple who lives there. the pension she delivers is about $100.00 you romance. it's enough to survive. it says alexander cove, i ankle, but they won't be able to rebuild their house. i believe we've done what we can chef. but these monsters have destroyed our lives, only stores. hello. how will we survive the winter?
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i just don't know zimmer with them as our doctor does, a rush cautious. it's hard to tackle this and to realize that this is our life now over the me that will stay strong and will keep working. but i to what the blueberry retained a year and her then she continues to serve her people, pinging pensioners, them money and offering them the bit of company her work. she says has never been more important or yeah, yeah, ah, quote from the ties that bind to ties that are being tested today. russian president vladimir putin and his chinese counterpart she had pink, held their 1st face to face talks since moscow's invasion of ukraine began earlier . this year of speaking on the sidelines of the summit in uzbekistan. putin thank china for what he called it's balanced position towards ukraine,
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but who did also acknowledged concerns which some c as a cryptic confirmation that beijing may be indifferent. perhaps even unhappy with putin's war blood in me, a putin is in some account to strengthen ties with the few allies. he can count on the shanghai co operation organisation of eurasian nations, has grown in significance for russia since its invasion of ukraine, lead western states to impose sanctions on moscow. by far, the most important meeting for putin is with his chinese counterpart sheeting pink . it's the chinese presidents, 1st foreign trip since the start of the corona virus pandemic. china has remained tight lipped over russia's invasion of ukraine. putin was clearly thankful for the tacit support when we highly value the balance to position of our chinese friends when it comes to the ukraine crisis. russia and china are presenting
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a united front when relations with western states are going from bad to worse. the shanghai cooperation organisation includes many of the former soviet republics in central asia, as well as india and pakistan. iran has expressed interest in joining turkey whose president is attending the summer. can summit is a full dialogue partner put in an ad on our set to meet on friday, due to western sanctions. chinese products have replaced western ones in russia. well, china is russia's biggest oil, customer shipping, ping, cease the global roll of the 2 countries as much more than just trade hope ration in they should yet be a china, together with russia is ready to accept the part of great power even going over the van to play a leading role in being of force for stability and positive energy in a world shaken by social unrest, georgia, the should ga true when being she a tongue. as their lead, as talking was becky, stan,
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china and russia are carrying out joint military exercises near the pacific coast. oh, my 1st gift to nights is ali will i need senior analysts with eurasia groups, macro geo politics practice. his focus is on us, china relations and competition between world powers. he's also the author of. busy america's great power opportunity, revitalized u. s. foreign policy to meet the challenges of strategic competition in the alley, joins me to night from washington d. c. ali. it's good to have you on the show. let me ask you about what we heard or maybe what we didn't hear today. volunteer. bruton said that he understands that she's in being has questions and concerns about the situation in ukraine. what did you read between the lines there? well, thank you so much for having the on, on the program. so even if the,
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we often hear a distinction between the notes of music and the writing of the music. and that is to say, even though the relationship between china and russia is deepening a detainer of their conversations, the tenor of their, of their public front is different than it was. you remember, i shortly for russian b, ukraine, china and russia famously declared that their friendship had no limits. but evidently, their relationship doesn't have some limits and i would just offer a few observations. i think hooton's statement is an acknowledgment of china's concerns, not to say that china hasn't harbor those concerns, but that those concerns are growing. my hypothesis is that china probably thought then russia was indeed going to launch either just a special military operation, or that if it did launch a full fledged invasion of ukraine, that ukraine capitulate right away. it would be a very bloodless and quick affair. the war hasn't turned out that way, it's much more, more protracted. it's proven to be grinding. and the longer the war go on. suffer. so i think it's current about the trajectory of the war and russ. please
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leave the even if they publicly maintain or fronting. i think the china one russia to make renewed push to end hostilities. would you say that china is, is, is worried, or is becoming more worried about the long term fall out from russia's invasion of ukraine. i mean, is that what does that play here? absolutely. as i say just a minute ago, you know, my sense is that china probably expected that ukraine would capitulate very quickly . ukraine with a western support has proven to be a, a formidable competitor. and of course brushes military as well heads as under performed. so i think china is very concerned. first of all, it's concerned by the same extra analogies of the war that many other countries are concerned about. it's concerned about disruptions to global energy market. it's concerned about disruptions to global food market. so it's concerned about those extra nowadays, which will only worsen as the war continues,
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but it is also concerned about, as i mentioned, it's transit lanet ties. and although you're china and russia, they will strengthen their embrace to offer growing pressure from advanced industrial democracies, particularly in the west, china. it recognizes it for its own long term strategic outlook. a stable relations with the west are going to be far more consequential than stable relations with russia for china has a very difficult balancing act. and evan maderos has famously referred to this as china and russia policy tri, lemme. china's primal tediously wants to demonstrate that remains committed to upholding sovereignty and territorial integrity. it wants to maintain its relationship with russia, and it also wants to maintain its relationships in the west. that's a very difficult balancing act. and the longer the war goes, the harder the bouncing ac is going to come from aging. and beijing and she's in ping is watching everything that's happening in ukraine. he sees the economic sanctions. he also sees unity within nato. and, and i'm wondering, is that influencing his calculus when it comes to the future of taiwan?
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it's a very important question, i think. and there are many, there are many lessons that one can draw. you know, my sense is that china recognizes now given the difficulty to the rush, one given the military difficulties in russia has had invading a territory the contiguous neighbor imagine how much harder it would be for trying to take him to the landing staging and him to be landing is orders of magnitude more difficult in the military packing order. number one, number 2, for all china as much of onto military modernization. it's important to remember that the people's liberation army hasn't fought in major combat since 979. number 2, number 3, china is also recognizing with the sanctions that the west has imposed on russia than russia, so called fortress economy, is not as impregnable as moscow might imagine. so china recognizes that if it were to contemplate any aggression against taiwan, it would have to do a lot more work in advance to build up. it's economic sulfur lines to build up instead of logical rule reliance,
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a sulphur launch. it's nowhere near there. so i think that it's not to say that china had been intimidating taiwan, increasing the pressure against taiwan well before russia last version of ukraine. so it's not as a china is, it's not russia behavior in ukraine in going with stablish or determine which china does, which one is learning lessons. and i think the chinese, recognizing that the military costs would incur the economic costs it would incur from aggression against by one would be very severe. that it has a lot more work to do to build up its military and economic strength all the way with the eraser group. all the it's good talking with you. excellent analysis. we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you. thank you so much for having me. ah, well, it said that the british people are experts in the arch of queuing, thousands have been doing what they do best standing in line for hours, even sleeping in line during the night to say
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a final good bye to queen elizabeth britton's longest serving monarch is lying in state in london's westminster hall for the next 4 days. the cue to see her coffin stretches out the door for nearly 10 kilometers along the river thames. you see it right there. it's so long that there is a website now that shows you where the end of the line is. there's already in line we're told are issued wristbands so that they can leave if they have to maybe sit down or go to the bathroom or get something to eat. officials expect 750000 people to file past before the queen's funeral, which is scheduled for this coming monday. all right, let's find out a little more about what's motivating these huge crowds standing in line to view the queen's casket. i want to bring in royal commentator richard fitz williams, he joins me to night from london. mister fitz williams, it's good to have you with us. the pictures that the world is seeing right now, the fact that people have been prepared and are prepared to wait up to 30 hours
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outside. it's september. and we know what london weather is like to view the queen lying in state. what does it tell us? it tells us that the queen was a truly remarkable individual who had, i think the best way of describing have relationship with her subjects, i think is love. i'm reminded of her distinguished predecessor from the 16th century elizabeth, the 1st, who in her little speech said that god hath raised me high. i counsellor glory of my throne, that i have reigned with yo love. and i think that is so act in this particular case, because the longest i have a grinning mom and someone who was passing so much and british life as you say, the cues at the moment stretching all these amazing hours cost hundreds of
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thousands chewed when the queen mother died in 2002 and also of course for the funeral of gun metal george, the 6 her father britt more time sovereign was like, this is something like and which leading on to monday when the, some bank holiday and of course the funeral and world leaders will descend, it's unlike anything i think will ever seen possibly accepting. so instant change often when 965, and it has been such a somber week in the u. k. we were seeing these, these long queues of people, and there has been almost no eruptions, no one misbehaving, no one protesting. i mean, they say it, there's just signs of reverence and respect all along these cues along the river thames at the moment. how has the passing of the queen tap into what seems to be
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a deep root of dignity in the public? his you're quite right using that word dignity because i think it's important. i mean it's, if you can't really do other than completely contrast what we're seeing now with the queen dying, 96 with for example, the princess of wales, 36 by suddenly the flood gates open when it came to a motion and the british had decided themselves we've never seen before, as this, people are responding individually in different ways. for example, quite a large number of shedding tears, quite a large number of cutting, very large numbers. but the age of social media are taking self thieves and using i phone some people think it's hunting to find some people think. well, this is the way they want to remember the occasion. i it's, it's certainly a very, very quiet procession. and the feeling is that this is unique
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counsel. then we are looking back into caves to come. and no one will forget where they were when they heard of the queen's passing. and also this moment, the lucky few who be able to get in as you say, will be several 100000 i into westminster. holy oldest part of the house and come on. that's right, in fact, it's earliest since william the 2nd, the roof was rich of the 2nd. it survived the 184544 high in parliament and also the brits and churches. coffee also lay misery before we run our time. we just want to ask you, i mean it regarding the funeral and the challenge, this must be on a diplomatic level. i mean, who's coming in and who has been, who has not been invited to. we know and we do most certainly know the time world heads of state of been invited, but the exceptions are russia, belarus,
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and my and mom, and apparently also i as well. and sylvia, and apparently there are few countries, i think, including most korea, i'm who will be asked to send them back, will be invited to send that massive. so what, in reality, this will mean is that, that will be one of the largest ever gallery was outside the united nation, say, well leaders as though it's important because of course, queen elizabeth the queen of the commonwealth. and the way she did was herself a citizen of the world, in the sense that she was able, with a profile to reach out to people unique to missile this when suffolk, under the pandemic. and she was able to quote some water or times we talked a bit of linton showed brilliantly. she was better known than any other head of state. this will pay to how amazing life royal commentator richard fitz williams.
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