site and within the block, that is why the european commission says it is introducing new legislation to protect free and independent journalism. the european media freedom act. let's talk about that with the era. yorba the european commission vice president charge with you values and transparency. thank you. for being with us. thank you very much for your interest. madame vice president, am media freedom in the european union is a fundamental right. so how can it be that this riot is under a threat right now? how did we get there? are we saw this trend over several years? we have a good day die year by year comparing the there is really a negative trend political attacks, our economic distress, spying journalists, worsening situation for the generous when it comes to data, safety, abusing justice system and journalists. so are you ask about how it is possible?

well, a lever relying a lot on a member states or roofs and legislation. and at some old man we realized wait a minute. this is funny ribbon problem. and if we let the trend continue, if the media will be weakened beyond some line, we will not be able to see democracy protect it sufficiently. so that's why we are coming as though, as the legally binding rule, son t r. i believe that tar ah, we are had over our difficult legislative process maybe. but i am ready ready to push it through because i believe we need it. so you saying that the member states are to blame for the situation? no, i would not formulate that. i just realized that we have a very even stand the level of protection of

media in our member states. there are countries that out a lot of safeguards and i can name germany. that's why i had to get a lot of promises to different german figures and, and politicians, and also the media organizations that we are not going to destroy the systems which work well. but i also try to convince everybody that there are gaps that out there is this trend why we see the result, the legally binding rules, the media will be the victims of the funding situation. just look at the platforms and the power see the money which went to the big platforms which weakened the media. economically, look at some states which try to fuel the politic power. to influence the editorial content look at the using the spyware. again,

the journalist you named at the beginning, the problems we face in the commission says that the media freedom act, would it hands, media independence and transparency? how is it going to do it? exactly. we are focusing on civil, big thinks up on the basis of the problem identified. so 1st of all, we are warning the member stay the political layer. do not interfere. let the journalist do the job. ah, don't use the spyware. don't push them to disclose dark sources of information. are at the same down where we are alerting. ah, or when it comes to public service media. we believe that the right of people to half objective information and neutral kind of noose ah, that we need to see in all the member states. hi,

i la professional public service media, not state media or barty media. we see a lot of far ah, public money being ah, sent to media through advertising. and we want to see how much and to which media. in other words, we want to see more transparency in how the public money is used. whether you just buy the space or whether you or so buy some editorial gratitute and are we don't see a lot of far information regarding a transparency of ownership of media. in a recent interview, you said that hungry, often criticized for its handling offer media. was an inspiration for at the bill. what exactly did you mean by that? well, on, of course we had to, ah, we had in mind several concrete cases. when i was asked very intensively,

what we'll do commission do in this house. i will grills so many times and i had to repeat, well, we do not have any tool in hand. we cannot actually see something happening in hungary or in bowl. and we had an issue in slovenia, we see some negative trend in many other member states. and, you know, like you reply and 9 times, i can't do anything. and the time you are not willing to refit it any more. so the solution is the european law. i will honestly try to convince everybody that this is a good thing. we will have may be difficult legislative process, but everybody has to admit that the media are not protected enough in europe. but talking about hungary, well this legislation has immediate effect on hungary,

for instance, on media owned by oligarchs, close to the government. of course it's going to be used. it's are actively, sorry, i'm a lawyer, so i have to mention that. but this law sets the criteria for which will be used for assessment of concentration of media ownership. and i, i believe that although monopoly guests sma, which we see in hungary functioning ah, of would not be possible. would not have been possible with such a laws and critics in hungry or, or a saying that this proposed legislation is a concealed threat to freedom of speech though is sir the commission protecting their freedom of media by restricting freedom of speech by restricting opinions that the commission doesn't like, this is a fatal misunderstanding. i don't know if i made a mistake in communication,

but ah, by server. so we want by this law to increase the protection of the freedom of speech. that's why i also mentioned the platforms that that should be special treatment fault, the professional journalists to be able to place that opinions and then use in that digital space. and all i have to repeat that we are not a relating media themselves, regulating the space for the media. the european parliament this week said that hungry is a systemic threat to e u values as a commissioner in charge of those values. do you believe that governments, like the one in budapest should have a space in the european union? ah, you can imagine the commission shares a lot of times which are in the resolution, which was already in the previous one. we see issues in judiciary system. we discussed the media drinking space or the civil society. there are thousands of

little or bigger things which goals some kind of erosion of, of the hungary and democracy. and so this is snow the choice for, for hungary to prove that they belong to the club of europe and countries . while it's my job to have a dialog on gary or to use the tools which i have in the commissioner to try to convince them through different measures to come back. and in the past, victor alba and hunger and prime minister already verbally attacked you and demanded you resignation. so are you not afraid of a backlash in hungry and in other countries? for instance, poland because of this legislation. when you enter politics, you cannot take things personally. i had several other enemies. i

realize that there is something on the slogan. it's my slogan. tell me who your enemies are and i will tell you who you are. and i was not happy that mister mon was taking me, but i will have been to loveland lion protected me. that she, she saw supporting me. and i think that in general, it is not a good scene that in politics, we do not speak about opponents mores speak about adverse r e s. or any thing that should come back to some kind of descent politics. why we work with the arguments rather than this offensive, but how does it feel to have an you or a p and a european leaders you enemy? ah, that it sounds cynical if i say i got used to it. and i also have a lot of friends and you grow up and coming in to

redeem in the then jealous lavaca before the i one wall went down. so how has this experience impacted you personal view of journalists and media? it's uneasy to combat the time before of illusion and after, because we cannot speak about any media in congress trickles. lucky or either of us, some newspaper there was tv, but my father always little telling me very chicago. do not believe any thing, but you read in newspaper. it was very important part of my education and equipment for the rest of my life. to day, my message would be please people do not believe every thing you read. and here comes my fight against this information and faking us. and now

we have regimes like the one in russia and the commission is saying, you want to restrict foreign propaganda and it's inflammation. but isn't this motion coming too late? you know, we, we have in dna and you are all that we are really protected, the freedom of speech and the media doing the job must be protected. but then we came to the point when we saw that russia to dance put, nick became just the water weapons, not the media anymore. so if it came late, i think it came in the proper moment to gather with enhancing the support of the generalist in ukraine. and we are sending a lot of money to help you. oh so so they are heroes. working that in the battlefield. met and vice president. thank you very much. thank you very much.

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