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50 percent of the population. so if you put a wealth of $600000000.00 africans together, it us not much up to the top, the wealthiest men on the continent. if you want to hear what this sort of disparity does to people as societies then come with me to mckoko in legos. my colleague, it had kimani and her crew bought at one of the small fish and canoes to the settlement, to talk to the people who feel left behind. i hello and welcome back to the 7 to 7 percent this week. we are in lagos, nigeria, more specifically, where in mccorkle and informal area in this place now recently are the most recent figures by then a jury. a bureau statistics indicate that about 18000000 people living in extreme poverty. this means people who and just over $300.00 a year. but the world bank estimates that that figure will probably have shot up to

$100000000.00 by the end of this year. that's 2022. and so we're wondering how did those people who live in extreme poverty live side by side with some of the richest on the continent, and what does that disparity do? so society? well, i've got here a panel of very good looking people who are ready to speak to me, and i'm going to start with henry who was for oxfam. and you also did a report on in quality, but before we get to your findings, this is the 1st time that you're hearing, michael co. just give me your views of so far what. what do you think it's is quite sad disheartening to see on ground what we on the lies on paper or somewhere in the on television or in the media. i won't stay ah, ah, why displace his saw disassociated from the rest of the of the country? i haven't quite seen a people as impoverished as i'm seeing here today. i will see in an environment asa visited has some seen here today. i will quite seen lack of government present like i'm seeing here today is, is quite disheartening. i must say. all right,

so i want to ask noel, who, by the way, we are at a school, a noise, the one who runs the school or so you live in this area. how does it feel to hear that your fellow negotiate? who live just next door? i've never been here in this girl's been shown. do shug goods, russia on the poor get poorer? because all these a communist garbage existing for more to wander years on the publisher will be, will have, you know, what i hear is will what i want a 1000 to put thousands of children at home, doctorate degree shall on. this is in the college under dazzled grub, my presence in this community. okay, let me speak to kim for a 2nd. so the people who are assisting come from these sorts of communities. but is it common for you to hear that the people who live in these communities are excluded as henry was saying from the rest of society? yes, so most of this women are radius blue, dead form like for the financial system. so most of them are left behind. so we are coming to reach doug, because like you see,

most of us who end it'll have cool. i tried some of them. you know, have bank account, didn't have it. so we helped facilitate that. we helped them kick stocks the financing flu, shot john, all right, before we get to, you know, what can be done to stop this inequality. henry, i want to come back to you because i want to off privacy. it's not us in sort of resources not been available is because our resources are available, but a few people that one percent or that 5 percent have actually hedge up the entire resources and opportunity. i'm so far all some of the drive us off inequality, right. that includes ha, political car capture, right? we are politics actually up looking to pull car in actually capture the entire opportunity on resources. i do what i drive was actually included at high hyper, maybe do high cost of governance. yeah. okay. let me ask the other. oh, you like to add? alright, let me introduce fun, me to the, to the, to the conversation. going okay. very big issue that i found out among people with the via is regressive, that taxation, people in the community office. i mean, people yet do not really want to leave displeased. they wants this space to be

suitable for them to fish. and then when they get to the market where they want to sell their fish every time someone is coming to them say, or you have to pay the stocks you have to pay back stocks, you have to pay this tax. now in nigeria, they claim that public education is free, but then before you're charged and i says that for because they show up to show proof of the rent of docs, unfortunately the kind of talks that did it is not the kind of box that has proved that you pay tax, which means that they also have to pay a modem from stocks, i think is $20000.00 here before they're enrolled into for this school. so this is a reason why many people yet do not have access to education on de la bus. it else care. i know that economic drive us. okay. let me speak to henry because i wanted to ask him, having grown up, you grew up in michael korea but not on the water side. on the land side of these, the reality the to experiencing every did what? growing up there was light. so bring up the medical for me outside that a privilege. give it a privilege in the sense that i had to you know,

try as much as was, who landed by the 3 us going with appearance difference i to get there indefinitely . do really want to push you to do more, more in, in a scenario by your appearance too, or no, really sorry to keep it and even the environment you find yourself are people are not pushing dots. a level of education. deny jo. you'd other yeah, of thousands of children. criminal under storage. no. going to school. yeah. to bore. i'm just of what you're not my parents. i get it on the fight. he knew de la fight for me to make sure that i attend our degree of education. right, so what you're describing hayes, what academics would say is a cycle of poverty j. daniel, is it something that you also experienced? no, you didn't grow up in michael, but as an informal settlement as well. well, it was the experience similar to what we're observing, minus similar what not this extreme because i mean coming from a place where you have to constantly support provide for yourself. you have to constantly do things for yourself, just like, oh, my kind of colleague said that the governments are not really interested in our

well being. we've seen on government organizations come down to these communities just to take pictures because they want to post on social media. they want to make it look like they're doing something. so i think what is the real problem? it's not that we don't have the resources, but the problem is they really don't see this people as our own. okay, let me move to. fortune was standing right next to you and he is an advisor actually to a local official. and so being the person who informs the kind of decision that a t can to restore places like this, i guess the question is, why is nothing changing? okay, i did. what is, what you are seeing here today is not just because it out to this community a distant transference in on every order african countries. and i want to believe that but really not this extreme. yes, but what i'm trying to see in a nutshell is, is what you are seeing here today is, is, is the results of greed. are you getting me the results of great, you know, the african leaders in law be of no,

can't cut creed and that is why you're not impact sick. so police like these just like what they're done. they just said, you know, sometimes the good to dis long. it took b chores under rest of the town. got a young here today. and i have seen her 1st found myself a 1st very bought. so very pathetic. like, you know, human beings like me are leaving in this kind of a police are you get to me? that's why i said it's not just regular to these way please. it transcends or you go to me. so yes, yes, yes. i a bit before before we, before we get to the 2 of you, let me invite to the other, daniel i, yes, we have to daniel's. and to henry is i hope you can keep up. so daniel, we're talking about distribution of resources and i have to ask because you work and found it if i believe, follow the money out where the gobs every year when the budget is read out, there's a lot of money being pumped into the country. why isn't it getting here? it's been a systemic issue for people not to be able to for government are supposed to get offered in these are people leaving this on the space, but to give them, dear,

he's so much greedy so much. oh, we're premiere of people, not on a sunday funding. there is need for people to be to be taken care of. so leadership is a major problem and that is all well, okay, all right, no, i, you wanted to know, i wanted to say something like a little bit amy. okay, what, uh, what for me? yeah. in the junior, every child does homage, garage or whatever. well, what i doesn't like to to come to the school, what are under the whole house. you can take a life from the water and put good luck. i love to survive. you kind of us about how many schools are here. noah? schools are. yeah, this is the middle school. what i her, we also have some support for school. we do this company to do you have any hospitals, police station with diesel police or what's all we do have got miss. gov is to government maternity does which are what are we be living here from what andre? yes. yeah. one me it had something to say to me and then henry, i'm guessing what's daniella this is like this. i'm not developed, not because the government goes on with that issue developing well because the

government, the government is bent on call. michelle, i think this is like this. for example, on an island which is presenting liked him, was expensive, is where you are leaving. the ghost is, was his mom and we have a lot of people will leave you moved to dismissal, banana island. so places like these identified by the government and i have read and also spoken with companies member who told me that it doesn't on 8 and 12 and i think says on to this, this was about to be demolished on them. they got a notification on 2 days ago, if i'm right that they have sold disappears to some government officials on that in 2 years. this, this is going to, if you're going to be more use. and then if that happens in 5 years, you're going to see it fancy sta. that is going to be sold to people who cannot afford deeds. and he's still going to be the sam wish people that are buying the sim assets that we have in nigeria. okay. let me ask henry, because having lived in this community, was that a fear that you had because i've had it said that yeah, people don't know if tomorrow they went to wake up and their house is going to be under water. yeah, that's why most people a look at houses,

some of them don't really want to ruin a video house because you're scared of kid, but sure. we're not gonna just come on take all of us. we. so why am i doing this for the morning when i'm looking at it? if governments want him to, if i could just this, what that, what, okay, what else? social life you would, how did you want to keep surviving? because this be poor fish, i'm and then you to fish in water, stuff like that. so if you're going to take them out with the weight id and then 3, let me, let me, let me ask you for 2nd here, because based on this, on the, in the rooms you sit with is the plan to get rid of informal settlements, like mccorkle recently, there was something to abilene about to pull up community in legos states on in lot you chose, discovered that in a song passes, sam dropped a particle up loose, you know, giving us what their cronies boats our equal renter. gov nor, you know, he came to set the standard steeds on in a street and shot dogs. you know, the rifle or nuts of the properties in all had are says to the properties. and it's

you see, for the people in that community fee. are you getting me so sometimes i think we, we are also having issues with you for me shows. i'm not telling you that some of this is are not happening. are you getting me? but we, what i know right now do the present got know we have in la costa it is a very, very, as the proxy. gov know like, you know, he's very emphatic. yes. from henry, who had something to say to me earlier, and then we'll come to, you know, or, yes, i wanted to mention at defax. i where he met on greed that fast. and i said, i recall what happened. i just saw 2 weeks ago of a particular of mentor official who was accused of stealing 80000000000. and i can imagine what 80000000000 can do in dismantled communism. can actually build a law up to 34 schools here. we can build off to a for or that hospitals will of international stand that provide the basic amenities for dispatch black committee. but well, what we see the revised, what we see the revised because most of this government, official jackets,

eyes cooler, broad into your care in the us on all of that. the, the go for, for, for, for health tours in themselves. you know, they don't have we, it's local. yeah. so so, so one can actually actually go to lunch and watch. and what i asked now much my example, and i come back in the evening. i have breakfast in league. so it's, it's so it's so pathetic that so i've just got my coffee shop doors. exactly care and next year's election. they'll be all about it with the people that a local place is in asking them to vote for them. but they're all about right in basi with people and on the streets, begging for both one they secured is bought. com. 2023. that is out there from the street. okay. back into a couple of days. i distrust not distressed, but these lack of transparency from the people who are running for office in as far as what their plans are with this area. okay, but daniel, i want to give daniel a chance to talk about what he is doing because while we are hearing that there is very little empathy going round, you're actually doing something to try and transform these community to tell us

what you're doing. we're back in 2015. i sat talking to my friends. i said i, we need to start teaching our friends, our fellow friends within the community, on graphics design, coding and microsoft excel. we need them to learn as q, so they can provide for themselves. perez, it doesn't seem like we have jobs for when we started. we noticed there was a problem because most of us we did not amusing us because it's inclusive. now most of us from our community don't know how to read and write in english. so that was when we studied on providing them would be as excuse like how to understand english, how to write in english, how to solve much motus and from dead. the idea roof we say gets in with i get a notice from on, on bigger organizations within our communities, people only infest in community slide these when they sometimes when there's something to going. okay, i want to move the conversation along because unfortunately the rain is threatening to throw this party off, but we must continue. so one of the consequences, no, i want to come back to you because we've had

a lot about insecurity in this country. i'm wondering if it's a symptom of inequality. what are some of the things that you're seeing as a result of people being left behind? if there's any college in the country, we got some from guys drone 30 joy, people doubt brew riots because they're going to have dr. drew to learn what to do rate on the interfolio potential governance. you do need to do something here for me. i'd like to hear what, ah, this little or this level of inequality does for women because unfortunately i'll agenda is always disproportionately affected when it comes to issues like this in communities like this. i cases of 1st marriages chad, my age is too much pregnancy abuse andrea because all we have called her out of something called her on traction. i'll be starting to think that we may not of the less of value we men should get married. as soon as possible, but we have found out lots many government policies that we have in nigeria between this company to do laundry about it because we have very,

we have no government presidency also when we men are forced to be married out when we main ah, raped when we miss his domestic violence. we do not house support for they me. how on the federal government tried to reach communities like this to a show that we many this from the jesse's day. all right, so let me ask fortune. that same question you did speak very highly about your governor earlier, but the question is, why hasn't that governor brought schools, hospitals, police stations to this place if you think so highly of it, okay. when we talk about developments, when we talk about said goods, it's just not just an automatic thing or you get to me it's, it's, it's the 6 got dropped process. so for me, i have when we are getting rid of these ready, please. because i know data sometimes in the future, anything can come more or you go to me. i know i don't, i don't understand that. so you don't develop it because of what might happen in the future. no, no, no, i'm not saying it's not going to be different loops. you know, i do more minutes, right now. i don't even know what is the plan of the government course finding his way, please,

because i don't even know that the police like these dos as i'm just having the idea to do so. i cannot actually so good. this is what has been dear, or this is what is going to happen. yeah. okay, daniel, ah, let me, let me, let me come to henry a. daniel, you're itching, talk to me, talk to me, daniel. so it is obvious that there is no sustainable plan or government that he gently on how to make this please. what is supposed to be. the only don't get to your government in the news. iran is just like, this is where, okay, we need to demolish its place. okay. we need to find a place or maybe move even in, in moving to people, there is no sustainable plan. yeah. to move them please, please, please, are you still okay. this is a bill i me from as no, i said i don't think moving from is the option because they're fishermen, they don't want him. exactly. so you've changed since they did really want to stay here. what is the plan for disco, henry henry, what is it? okay, what of course you got rentals are always love as queues is trust me. and he asked

yankee, i'll give you another business cuz they don't get a while ago. but again, you say you see a committee like this is, is, is similar to the court area where we had a law reg detailing project lance lance, we again from the see from to what's asked. why can begin this land from this water? and i handed over back to the people and i give them access to the see where they can fish, because a lot of men piracy is becoming a part that we're getting for them set under the, for their own good. think of the big names in danger already already 5000000000. yes. the the comfortable spend your wealth in the lifetime and did a community existing like this. so, so let the good kind of wanted to hello to heaven. well, i get one day, one of that begin to look at, look at what i mean of, of actually reducing brittany dos, resorted to taxes, this issues i because both men do not prioritizing, formerly called me trust me. jackson is that consciousness is environmental right? but that, that and what, yes, the area i was gonna see on sooner. see, let me just let me just

a new lease. he was saying something about in with the machine affects him the people under arrest or weeds. if you want to change, that is consequences for change or you got to me if the very place is going to a spurious development, automatic gully, every inhabitants of this way place must be affected. so it's not like nearby i am defending the government or whatsoever. if they're going to develop these very please, it is not something of 2 years because this place is what are logged. are you getting resort? is something i would took years are the same time i didn't. it depends on the kind of dilemma latinos are we talking about the room in the sense that you want to demolish? if you're looking at positive, that one of developed is very pleased. it has to go done because there's lots of what you told in or victor. yeah, no, no, it's fine. okay. okay. let me, let me a blow job. i will on became a capitol. i was, i became a copy that in, in 1989. i'm moving over from lagos. well no, hold on, hold on,

let go. so i buddha, and then after this happen, a lot of things happen in i will go everyone, everyone while i love the energy of this debates, we need to have it be one person at a time, henry, let's hear from you. yes. so so when, when let, when cut the cut down, move trabusia. but then the use of boucher wrath obtain and do it directly relocated to a safe place before was it as well developed wonder what they will look them of them back to the lab? what fortune is saying that is something that's it's not, it's not exactly the same. what, what become do, right, is the center. i didn't have to jump out real quick then what's the real kick them out yet? i love you. press on, bring them back. okay. okay, so i'm sorry we have to wrap up and so i'm a but to ask for solutions. i need to know what the name julian government can do, what african government can do to close the gap between the rich and the poor. let's hear from you daniel. and in terms of solutions, i think one needs to be done is proper sensitization within this community. we need to festival. the government needs to calm down into this, please, and make them feel loved. first, they need to be empowered. they need to know that the government care,

the younger people here, she talked about the rate of rebates within this community. the gilson to particular charles then needs to be education within displeased exactly needs cues . we leave in the community where it's either you're self employed or you're not doing anything. so we need to empower this group. definitely. when you talk about people from display, the only perceived them to be street kids to cause violence to cost nuisance. and these things aren't intentional. so for the government to see change for the government to see our progress, the need to bring this people into the system. i'll fortune you've got something to say to me. when i started, i said our problem in africa is green. now, for doses i've done, m mentioned should become reality one. the african governments most conquered good number 2 or henry serge are legislators id ford's highest speed in the wood. they have to coach on government part done on government calls,

you know, they wouldn't know it's possible, you know, he's brazil did. there's a whole lot going on in africa right now. okay. well, a lot of revolutions under rest of, i'm telling not somebody goes which, what if this is what's happened? our government in africa was called god, greed ok. because there's so much this enormous resources in africa, particular or less use like these. what the problem is these, that if you are not sitting on the common weights off the masses, all right, so can let me hear from you any solutions for me. how do we stop income inequality? so for me, i misunderstood, i'll give to the government is for informal settlements. ladies data is key, sol, how do you, do you know how many people need? yes. then for this settlement to concrete, am low cost housing for this people. so and you don't need to empower women so because we believe that when you empower. 1 it woman,

she empires our committee so great in solutions to, to bring about economic opportunities for the people in dis, communities. so skills development, assess to finance. it's very key because you can teach me as key. boy, if i don't have to walk in tools, i will go and start a business or was not this week we did, we will no doubt organizations that can help them. you know, need to stay your community to be empowered. you can go outside, be empowered and you come back on change. okay, fantastic. daniel, let's hear from you. okay, so i think going to show some search commitments. mitchell, people, you are. the moment is levy before them. the resources that are meant for them, please let it gets or do make them feel like they belong to the larger society. okay. henry, you said something earlier about the richest man, not being able to spend his wealth in a lifetime, but should he give it up? i mean, if you had billions, would you give it up? on the god mentioned with deliberate about it, god bless you, the instrumental tax to redistribute that kind of resources. yeah. such data,

the poorest of person can i tell you have access to the, the most basic of facilities and amenities. what goldman can also do is to be proposed with deliberate to invest in critical sectors. yeah. like health education on it and infrastructure to also ensure that these people have access to them. what may, can us well assure that young people have jobs? yeah, because the reason why you have a love is the christina content, because this guys don't have jobs if your credit job for them and give them a meaningful environment, there will not be on history will not be on just a korean gone on kill india fellow human beings, and i think i got i should able to move up the so several instability pumped into 2030. okay. for me, do you have any ideas of what we can do to end? well, thing the quality, the government needs to stop listening to people from community such as the on stop, stop listening to just while you see a spots well, most likely never stepped out feet into this community. for example, if accident in people don't say, oh, who them out of this community. i'm people from this community. i say we want to leave it just on to make it better. so coming to such as this should be listened to, half the all me since,

and get with them why i did with them. i interesting to them, you know exactly what feeds for between each community. ok. and i'd like to close this debate by asking no, our personal question. if you had it your way and you had all the money in the world and the power, what would be the 1st 3 things you would do for the people of mexico? refreshed to new do is to michel do how best to educational 2nd is to mitchell. that's d r. i'm with chris. we didn't commented is the thought was to empower dukes because i i tell people who were born or brought up or what i hear is yes. or but for 2 years, well you have the master on lunch and is very comfortable to be j bud fish and coming back dub dub. it'll tell you that live in or what that is our culture. yeah, i was one or both of you. if, if i do have the importance to go to school, i cumbersome through ladies. correct. does why i want enough racial to help us with because all right, thank you. thank you so much,

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