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50 percent off the population. so if you put a wealth of $600000000.00 africans together, it is not much up to the top, the wealthiest men on the continent. if you want to hear what this sort of disparity does to people as societies then come with me to mckoko in legos. my colleague, it had kimani and her crew bought at one of the small fish and canoes to the settlement, to talk to the people who feel left behind. i hello and welcome back to the 7 to 7 percent this week. we are in lagos, nigeria, more specifically, where in mexico and informal area in this place now recently are the most recent figures by then a jury. a bureau statistics indicate that about 18000000 people living in extreme poverty. this means people who and just over $300.00 a year. but the world bank estimates that that figure will probably have shot up to

$100000000.00 by the end of this year. that's 2022. as the were wondering how did those people who live in extreme poverty live side by side with some of the richest on the continent, and what does that disparity do? so society? well, i've got here a panel of very good looking people who are ready to speak to me, and i'm going to start with henry who was for oxfam. and you also did a report on in quality, but before we get to your findings, this is the 1st time that you're here in mexico. just give me your views of so far what. what do you think it's is quite sad, disheartening to see on ground what we on the lies on people our somewhere in the on television or in the media. i haven't seen r o y displays his saw disassociated from the rest of the of the country. i haven't quite seen a people as impoverished as i'm seeing here today. i will see in an environment asa deserted, has some sin here today. i will quite stay in lack of government present like i'm seeing here today is, is quite disheartening. i must say. all right,

so i want to ask noel, who, by the way, we are at a school, a noise, the one who runs the schools. so you live in this area. how does it feel to hear that your fellow negotiate? who live just next door? i've never been here in these girls, the sean, do shug goods russia on the poor get poorer? because all these a communist garbage assistant for more to wander years on the population of people . you know, what i hear is what i want a 1000 to put thousands of children at home. dotted official under this is in the college under dazzled grub. my presence in this community. okay, let me uh speak to camp for a 2nd. so the people you are assisting come from these sorts of communities, but is it common for you to hear that the people who live in these communities are excluded as henry was saying from the rest of society? yes, so most of these 3 men are radius blue. dead form like for us the financial system so most of them are left behind. so we are coming to reach doug because like you

see most of us who end it'll have cool. i tried some of them, you know, have bank account, didn't have it. so we helped facilitate that. we held them kick start stuff and i say inclusion john. all right, before we get to you know, what can be done to stop this inequality. henry, i want to come back to you because i want to understand, you know, michael has been in existence as we've heard from noah for over a 100 years. but how did we get to this place where an entire community is living on the outskirts of a city and being excluded in every sense of the word? the issue of poverty is not us in sort of resources not been available. is because our resources are available, but a few people that one percent of that 5 percent have actually hedge up the entire resources and opportunity. i'm so far all some of the drive us off inequality, right? that includes our political car capture, right? we are politics actually up looking to pull car in actually capture the entire opportunity on resources. i do what i drive was actually included at high hyper, maybe do high cost of governance. yeah. okay. let me ask the other are you like to

add? alright, let me introduce fun, me to the, to the, to the conversation going okay. very big issue that i found out among people in the via is regressive, that taxation, people in this community office. i mean, people here do not really want to leave displeased. they wants this space to be suitable for them to fish, and then when they get to the market where they want to sell their fish, every time song is coming to them, say, or you have to pay the stocks you have to pay back stocks. you have to pay this tax . now in nigeria, they claimed public education is free, but then we saw your charts and i says that public education love to show proof of the rent of docs. unfortunately, the kind of thought i did pick is not the kind of black box that has proved that you pay tax, which means that they also have to pay another form of tax, i think is $20000.00 here before they're enrolled into for this school. so this is a reason why many people yet do not have access to education on de la bus. it else care. i know that economic drive us. okay. let me speak to henry because i wanted to ask him, having grown up, you grew up in michael korea but not on the water side. on the land side. these are

reality the to experiencing every day. what growing up there was light, so growing up in america for me out said that a privilege good to privilege in the sense that i had to you know, try as much as was who landed by the to yes. going with parents difference i to get there and definitely do really want to push you to do more, more in, in a scenario by your parents to or nor really try to keep it and even the environment you find yourself. people are not pushing dots, a level of education in h o you the other half thousands of children running around the streets. no. going to school. yeah. to bore. i'm just of what you that my parents out to get it on the fight. he knew the la fight for me to make sure that i attend our degree of education. right. so what you're describing hayes, what academics would say is a cycle of poverty j. daniel, is it something that you also experienced? no, you didn't grow up in michael, but as an informal settlement as well. well, it was the experience similar to what we're observing minus similar what not this

extreme. because, i mean coming from a place where you have to constantly form provide for yourself. you have to constantly do things for yourself, just like, oh, my kind of colleague said that the governments are not really interested in our well being. we've seen on government organizations come down to these communities just to take pictures because they want to post on social media. they want to make it look like they're doing something. so i think what is the real problem? it's not that we don't have the resources, but the problem is they really don't see this. people are all okay. let me move to . fortune was standing right next to you and he is an advisor actually to a local official. and so being the person who informs the kind of decision that are taken to restore places like this, i guess the question is, why is nothing changing? ok on this is what you are seeing here today is not just peculiar to this. come in, it's a distant presence, it know every other african countries. and i want to believe that,

but really not this extreme. yes, but what i'm trying to see in a nutshell is, is what you are seeing here today is, is, is the results of greed. are you getting me the results of greet, you know, the african leaders in all the i've not called cut greed and that is why we're not impact sick. so police like these, just like what said, danny just said, you know, sometimes the good to dis long. it took b chores, and a rest of the town got a young here today. and i have seen her 1st found myself a 1st very bought so very pathetic. like, you know, human beings like me are leave union, this kind of it. police are you get to me? that's why i said it's not just regular to these way. please. it transcends or you get to me so yes, yes, yes. i a bit before before we, before we get to the 2 of you, let me invite to the other, daniel i yes, we have to daniel's. and to henry is i hope you can keep up. so daniel, we're talking about distribution of resources and i have to ask because you work and found it if i believe,

follow the money out where the gobs every year when the budget is read out, these a lot of money being pumped into the country. why isn't it getting here? it's been a systemic issue for people not to be able to for government are supposed to kid the for the needs of people living is going to speak. but to take care of them. dear is so much greed is so much of a problem of people not on a sunday funding. there is need for people to be to be taken care of. so leadership is a major problem and that is all your local. all right, no i you wanted to know i wanted to say something like a little bit amy elton was up to what for movie said yeah. in the junior, every child does homage, bush or whatever. well, what that tells me that you to come to the school, what are under the law, how you can take a life from the water and put it on the lot. glad to survive. it kind of us about how many schools are here. no school there. this is the middle school. what's on here? we also have some small force. can we do this company to do you have any hospital police station with diesel police or what time would you have to go? miss school goes to government maternity. does which or what are we be living here

from what andreas? yeah. i mean, it has something to say to me and then henry, i'm guessing what's daniella. this is like, this are more developed, not because the government goes on with that issue developing. well, because the government, the government is bent on co, much allies in places like this. for example, on an island which is presenting like the most expensive is where you are leaving legos is, was islam, and we have a lot of people will leave you moved to dismissal, banana island. so places like these identified by the government and i have read and also spoken with companies member who told me that it doesn't on it. so the man 12, i think says not through this, this was about to be demolished on them. they got a notification to, did they go? if i'm right, that they have sold disappears to some government officials on that in 2 years this, this is going to, if you're going to be more use. and then if that happens in 5 years, you're going to see a fancy sta, that is going to be sold to people that cannot afford deeds. and it's still going to be the same rich people that are buying the sim assets that we have in here,

okay? let me ask henry, because having lived in this community, was that a fear that you had because i've had it said that, yeah, people don't know if tomorrow they're going to wake up and their house is going to be under water. yeah, that's why most people, when you look at houses, some of them don't really wants to innovate the house because you're scared of kid by tomorrow. now to go about your strawman. take all of us. he was. so why am i doing this for the morning when i'm looking up to that? if governments want him to have up with what that, what, okay, what has social life you would, how did you want to keep surviving? because this week wash, i mean they need to fish on with her stuff like that. so if they're going to take them out with the way addiction been. great, let me, let me, let me ask for you for a 2nd here because based on this, on the, in the rooms you sit with is the plan to get rid informal settlements. like michael recently there was something up in that particular community in legos states and in lot you chose discovered that, you know, some percent sir dropped to particular. please, you know,

given us with your cronies. but our incom renter. gov nor, you know, he came to set the stand as deeds on in the street and shot dogs. you know, the rifle or nuts of the proxies in all had, are says to the properties. and it is see for the people in that community fee. are you getting me so sometimes i think we, we are also having issues with in for me shows. i'm not telling you that some of this is are not happening. are you getting me? but we, what i know right now, do the present got know we have in lucas did is a very, very, as in process you've gotta know. like, you know, he's very emphatic. yes. henry, who had something to say to me earlier, and then we'll come to, you know, yes i wanted to mention at defax i, when he met on greed that force. and i said, i recall what happened. i just saw 2 weeks ago of a particular of mentor official who was accused of stealing 80000000000. and i can imagine what 80000000000 can do in dismantled communism. can actually build

a law up to the 4 schools here. we can build off to a for or that hospitals will health of international standard provide the basic amenities for dispatch black committee, but well, what we see is the revised what we see the revised because most of this government official jackets, eyes cooler, broad in the u. k in the us on all of that the, the go for, for, for, for health stories in themselves. you know, they don't have we, it's local. yeah. so so, so when can i actually i can go to lunch and watch and what's out asked now much by example and come back and if not have breakfast in league or so it's, it's so it's so pathetic that so i've got my coffee house of doors exactly care and next year's election, they'll be all about it would be people that in local police is in or asking them to vote for them. but be all about right. embassy would people and on the streets, begging boats when they secure the sports compton is when the 3 that is out there from the street. okay. back into a couple of days at distrust, not distressed, but these lack of transparency from the people who are running for office in as far

as what their plans are with this area. okay, but daniel, i want to give daniel a chance to talk about what he's doing because while we are hearing that there's very little empathy going round, you're actually doing something to try and transformed his community to tell us what you're doing. way back in 2015 i said talking to my friends. i said, are we need to start teaching our friends, our fellow friends within the community, on graphics design, coding and microsoft excel. we need them to learn as q, so they can provide for themselves. perez, it doesn't seem like we have jobs for when we started. we noticed there was a problem because most of us we did not amusing us because it's inclusive. now most of us from our community don't know how to read and write in english. so that was when we studied on providing them would be excused. like how to understand english, how to write an english, how to solve my to masses. and from there, the idea roof, we say getting oz, i get an notice from on, on bigger organizations within our communities, people only infest in communities like these when they sometimes when there's

something that again, okay, i want to move the conversation along because unfortunately the rain is threatening to throw this party off, but we must continue. so one of the consequences, no, i want to come back to you because we've had a lot about insecurity in this country. i'm wondering if it's a symptom of inequality. what are some of the things that you're seeing as a result of people being left behind? if there is any college in the country, we got some, some guys drone, 30 joy, people doubt brew riots. because we're going to have dr. doodle on what to do. right on the in the color which the shown government to do new to do something here for me, i like to hear what, ah, this subtle or this level of inequality does for women. because unfortunately, our agenda is always destroy sneaky, has started when it comes to issues like this in call me, it is like this. i cases of 1st marriages, child my age is too much pregnancy abuse andrea. because all we have called her out

of something called her on tried chanel beneath. not then to think that we may not of the less of value we may get married as soon as possible. but we have found out lots many government policies that we have an idea. the wind is coming into the laundry about it because we have very, we have no government presents it. also when we men, of course, will be married out when we main raped when we miss his domestic violence. we do not have support for their me. how on the federal government tried to reach communities like just to ensure that we maintain this from the dfcs. there, all right, so let me ask fortune that same question. you did speak very highly about your governor earlier, but the question is, why hasn't that governor brought schools, hospitals, police stations to this place if you think so highly of it, okay. when we talk about developments, when we talk about said goods, it's not just an automatic thing or you get to me it's, it's, it's b 6 got dropped process. so for me, i have when we are getting rid of these very please, because i know data sometimes in the future, anything can come more or you go to me. i know i don't,

i don't understand that. so you don't develop it because of what might happen in the future. no, no, no, i'm not seeing these. it's not going to be different loops. you know, i do more minutes. right now. i don't even know what is the plan of the government class. i mean, he's very, please recall, i don't even know that the police ladies does as i'm just having the idea to do so . i cannot actually so can distance what has been dear or this is what is going to happen. yeah. okay, daniela. let me, let me, let me come to henry a. daniel, you're itching, talk to me, talk to me, daniel. so it is over years. that's good. his muscles tenable plans are government that she gently on how to make this please. what is supposed to be the only don't get to your government in the news. iran is just like, this is where, ok, we need to demolish, establish what we need to find a place or maybe move even in, you know, moving to people. there is no sustainable plan. yeah. to move them please, please please. are you suki? this is a bill i mean from as no. i said, i don't think moving from is the option because they're fishermen,

they don't want to. exactly. so you've changed since they did really want to steer . what is the plan for disco? henry, henry, what is it? okay, what was your time? of course you got me post ollie's to love excuses, trust me. and he asked you all, he, i'll give you know, on your business cuz they've been here while ago. but again, you say you see a committee like this is, is, is similar to the court area where we are the last lie reg, detailing project lance, lance, we again from the see from the, what's asked why can begin this land from this water? and i handed over back to the people and i give them access to the see where they can fish, because it's not meant parity is because the power to that we're getting for them. so i'm going to put on good. think of the big names in the and you're already already 5 big below now. that the comfortable spend your wealth in the lifetime and disney community existing like this. so what would i think was kind of wanted to hello to heaven? well, i get one day, one of them begin to look at, look at what i mean of, of actually reduced and written bus resources to taxes. this issues i because,

but they do not prioritize the informal economy. trust me that boxiness that consciousness is environmental right without that. and what yes area was gonna see on sooner. see, let me just tell you, let me just the new lease. you are saying something about in with the machine affects the people under restful week. if you want change, there is consequences for change or you get to me, if the very place is going to a spurious development, automatic gully, every inhabitants of this way place must be affected. so it's not like maybe i am defending the government or whatsoever if they're going to develop these very please, it is not something of to yes because this place is what are logged. are you getting result? you something i would take years. i just am time. i dissent, it depends on the kind of dilemma latinos are we talking about. different medicines are, wants, will demolish. if they're looking at. of course, if they're gonna develop these very please you test. got done because there's lots

of for you told in or victor. yeah, no, no, it's fine. okay. okay. let me, let me a blow job. i will on became a capitol. i was, i became a copy thought in 1989. i'm moving, moving from there. got to i was on hold on, hold on, let go. so i buddha, and then after this happen, a lot of things happening in i will go everyone, everyone while i love the energy of this debate, we need to have it be one person at a time, henry, let's hear from you. yes. so so when, when let, when cut the cut down, move trabusia. but then the use of a boucher graph 15th and do it directly to relocate to a safe place before was it us will develop wonder what they will look them back to the lab? what fortune is saying that it's something less, it's not, it's not exactly the same. what, what they can do, right? is the center. i didn't have to jump out real quick then what's the real kick them out? he had a lovely person, bring them back. okay. okay, so i'm sorry we have to wrap up and so i've got to ask for solutions. i need to know what the name julian government can do, what african government can do to close the gap between the rich and the poor.

let's hear from you, daniel. and in terms of solutions, i think one needs to be done is proper sensitization within this community. we need to festival. the government needs to calm down into this, please, and make them feel loved. first, they need to be in part. they need to know that the government care, the younger people here, she talked about the rate of rebates within this community. the gilson to be taken care of, then needs to be education within displeased exactly needs skews. we live in a community where it's either you're self employed or you're not doing anything. so we need to empower this group. definitely. when you talk about people from display, they only perceive them to be streets, kids to cause violence, to cost nuisance, and these things aren't intentional. so for the government to see change by the government to see our progress, the need to bring this people into the system. i'll fortune you've got something to say to me. when i started, i said our problem in africa is green. now for those says i've done m mentioned should becoming reality one, the african governments. most concord,

good number 2 or henry serge are legislators id ford's highest speed in the would they have to coach on government part done on government calls, you know, they wouldn't know it's possible. you know, it's possible that there's a whole lot going on in africa right. now, okay, well, a lot of revolutions under rest of it. i'm telling often what it was, which was if this is what's happened, our government in africa was called god, greed ok. because there's so much this enormous resources in africa to take care of las use light these. what the problem is these, that if you are not sitting on the common weights off the masses, all right, and can let me hear from you any solutions for me. how do we stop income inequality? so for me i miss alicia. i'll give to the government is for informal settlements ladies. data is key. so how do you, do you know how many people need?

yes. then for this settlement to concrete, i'm look course house in for this people. so and you don't need to empower women. so because we believe that when you empower. 1 it woman, she empires our committee grades in solutions to, to bring about economic opportunities for the people in dis, communities. so excuse development, assess to finance. it's very key because you can't teach me ascii boy. if i don't have to walk in tools, i will go and start a business or was not this week we did, we will no doubt organizations that can help them. you know, need to stay your community to be empowered. you can go outside, be empowered and you come back on change. okay, and it's fantastic daniel, let's hear from you. okay, so i think going to show some search commitments. make sure people you at the moment is levy before them. the resources that are meant for them, please let it gets or do make them feel like they belong to the larger society.

okay. henry, you said something earlier about the richest man, not being able to spend his wealth in a lifetime, but should he give it up? i mean, if you had billions, would you give it up for the god mentioned deliberate about it. god bless you the instrumental tax to redistribute that kind of resources. yeah. such data, the poorest of person can i tell you have access to the, the most basic of facilities and amenities. what goldlick i'm also do is to be put was with deliberate to invest in critical sectors. yeah. like health education on, on infrastructure to also ensure that these people have access to them. what may, can us well assure that young people have jobs? yeah. because the reason why you have a love is the christina coaches, because this guys don't have jobs. if you'll create job for them and give them a meaningful environment, there will not be on this tree will not be under to korean goss. i kill india fellow human beings, and i think i got, i should able to, to live up to you. so i hope everyone civility compton is 23. okay. for me, do you have any ideas of what we can do to end? well, see the quality, the government needs to stop listening to people from community such as the us up stop listening to just while you see spots well,

most likely never stepped our feet into this community. for example, if accident people don't say, oh, move them out of this community. i'm people from just coming to us. if we want to leave it, just want to make it better. so coming to such as this should be listened to, half the all me since, and get to read them way. i good with them. i mean, he seems with them you know exactly what feeds for between each community. okay. and i'd like to close this debate by asking no, our personal question. if you had it your way and you had all the money in the world and the power, what would be the 1st 3 things he would do for the people of mexico? the 1st to know do is to michel, do you have access to educational 2nd is to measure that. they are on medicaid within the community. is the thought was to empower dukes because i i tell people who were born or brought up on what i hear is yes or but for 2 years. well, you have the master on lunch and is very comfortable to be j bud fisher coming back double to tell you that living or what that is our culture. yeah,

i will one or both of you. if, if i do have the importance to go to school, i cumbersome through ladies. correct? that's why i want enough generation to help us with because all right, thank you. thank you so much, noah. and thank you to our panelists who have braved the board to come here who have braved the weather to stay and speak to us. and also i have to pick the crew to day falls when during the same until you idea of us. thank you for watching. ah ah ah, ah, ah ah, ah ah

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