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oh, come to take, talk with them about hackers and paralyzing the tire societies. computers that outs where you and governments that go crazy for your data. we explain how these technologies work, how they can go in for. and that's how they can also go terribly watch it now on youtube. new york city as today, the beating heart of global diplomacy after 2 years of zoom meetings because of the pandemic. the un general assembly is back in town, and this time the only leader allowed to appeared virtually is ukraine's president . although to me are zalinski. meanwhile, vladimir putin's proxy authorities and occupy ukrainian areas have announced
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referendums on joining russia. ukraine's allies have slammed the move and keep interprets it as a sign that russia has its back against the wall. i'm nichol fairly him, berlin, and this is the day. ah, rough seas. a wind sort of global discontent is on the horizon. when you set the course for reuniting with russia and we won't turn away from it differently, we advocate an immediate cease fire. the protection of civilians and non combatants which they can think whatever they want. ukrainian territory doesn't belong to any one else. there are 40000000 people living in ukraine to occupy them with 100000 soldiers or to carry out this special military operation is undoubtedly unrealistic. prosperous,
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crumbling inequality is about exploding and off planet. these buttons also on the day lights out in puerto rico after a hurricane batter is the island still rebuilding after another devastating hurricane? almost 5 years ago to the day we were hoping it wouldn't be so big. but well, it was bigger than we expected and i'm remembering ah, it was an alarming assessment of the state of affairs inaugurating the un general assembly secretary general antonio could cherish address the leaders of a world and turmoil, accusing them of being grid locks and global dysfunction on the world's biggest diplomatic stage, he painted a grim picture of a world in which the international order had broken down one of cascading crises, leading to financial meltdowns and social unrest. and he warned of what is phil to
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come as he put it, we ain't seen nothing yet. out wolf is in berry and peta lives. geopolitical divides that in the morning, the work of the security council and the reminding international law and the mining fast and people's facing democratic institutions and the, reminding all forms of international cooperation. we are in rough seas, a we, instead of global discontent, is on the horizon a winter of global discontent, significantly fueled by russia's war in ukraine and the global fallout it has triggered. now, while world leaders were gathered in new york, moscow has announced plans to hold referendums on formally annexing parts of ukraine, occupied by its forces and their separate his allies, ukraine's president vladimir zalinski office says any such move would destroy the remaining chances for peace talks. the plan referendums announced to day come after ukrainian forces made sweeping gains on the battlefield in the east of the country,
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driving back russian troops. ukrainian presidential spokesman henri year mac says russia is showing signs of desperation. writing this on his telegram channel. naive blackmail with threats and horror stories of quote referendums and quote, mobilizations from those who know how to fight only with children and peaceful people. this is what the fear of defeat looks like. the enemy is afraid. and for more on this, i am now joined by doctor jade mcglynn. she is a senior researcher at the monterey initiative in russian studies, an author of the upcoming book titled russia's war. she joined us from oxford in england. dr. mcglynn good to have you on the day ukraine says russia is sensing defeat. is that really what's happening? i think so. yes. the counter offensive clearly took the russians
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by surprise. that inability, eva the failure of intelligence and not expecting or their taste in ability to move enough troops around or indeed to have enough to fight back in any way affectively in the counterfeits. in harkey, the region suggests an army that is clearly not performing up to the propaganda propaganda stick on bus, which is locked in and out in russian. what would that station mean for the situation on the ground for the people who could go from living in russian control territory to territory annexed by russia? this is very worrying because some of the territories, for example, that parisha and hudson suggesting to the next not entirely controlled by russia. i'm fact even doing that. and i think even now do hands on entirely controlled by russian. but with that provision, for example, the collaboration is still 40 that has said that the whole of the provision will
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hopefully join russia after these kind of referendum. but they didn't even control the main city of the regions appreciate itself. so then it beat us into some interesting questions. where will the russian think that the ukrainians occupying russian land? it's just, it's just totally bizarre. and of course, the worrying thing is that it could be used as a way of as an excuse to even more nuclear blackmail, a friend of nuclear attacks. because, of course, she sees that territory as, as russia, than any attack on that territory could be used to justify nuclear strike, or at least the threat of one. yeah, i want to read something to you, the former president dmitri, but met with a road on telegram today. he said, an encroachment on the territory of russia is a crime that warned any means of self defend. so do you believe this move
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to illegitimately follow up ukrainian territory could lead to an even greater escalation of the war, not, not only in the upper region. 5 and around the nuclear plants, but in general, where we see ukrainian troops trying to regain control of their territories and russia, treating it as an incursion into, into russian territory. i think come 1st of all of cost mission and transformation from sort of key liberal technocrats of 12 years ago, intensive, terrifying, warmongers. it's been quite the seem to behold, but i will also recall that he said a similar thing about attack the crimea telegram channel and then when the ukrainians did you deleted that telegram voice. so, you know, and similar way, there was quite a lot of talk about what russian with you in sweden and enjoy nato and that didn't really come to pass. so i definitely think since,
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because of the gravity and the horror of what we are talking about in terms of a nuclear strike, of course you must tread very cassidy and we must clearly you'll have to be very sensible because even if there's a one percent risk such as, such as the heart that is, was very, very cautious need. however, i don't think we should just sort of bend in, buckle to the russian, say the russians are clearly not doing very well in the wall at the moment. and clearly it does look like a tight, his time ukrainian on the receiving incredibly, technologically superior weapon. re to that which russia have russian on the have the russian army lacking them around the russian on these is lacking in its ability to, to get enough men. and so it's kind of natural that they, which of course have recourse or decide to call upon that nuclear supremacy, which is something that they mentioned quite a lot even before you don't before the war. those quest, those references nuclear weapons is one of the few areas where russia genuinely as
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a superpower and it can read back it up with the whole thing is the russian parliament voted today to tough and the punishment for desertion and subordination . in times of military mobilization, how big of a problem does that seem to be among russian troops? i think, i think it is a problem, but i, you, i personally have interpreted these laws more about the future, more about the possibility of eva eva dangling. the possibility of mobile is ation or because they are preparing for mobile is ation. and of course, the way the food game to make predictions, especially in this world when people are, when everybody has been on that one point to another that it does look like we find that if not a full mobile is ation, then perhaps the partial mobilization may be on its way, and in that case, of course, the lord would make it very hard for people surrender. wanted to go over to the
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ukranian sidle to join us an edge russian pro ukrainian brigades to know if i can gain. some analysts believe that that these referendums that are now on the table or a way of trying to force ukraine to, to the negotiating table. do you think that would work now? mainly because of the, i mean it's that, it's the feature that gets forgotten. i think sometimes where you can ukrainian even if you wanted to go to the negotiation tables and i have to say there's not much even if you did ukraine, i mean sort of what this is all about. your grant is a democracy and i think it's 93 percent of ukrainians are again making any concession, even in crimea in order to secure peace. and i think it would be very hard to convince ukrainians as well that such a piece that you always want to put in that that such
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a piece would be enduring. and that would be a piece for them. or would it just be a piece you know, for us in the rest of europe and the russians char? so it's, it's not going well for a potent and the sense among civil society is growing just last week. local politicians asked in an open letter to resign for the good of the country. what's the extent of frustration with flattery? that's, of course quite difficult to judge and i'm putting the state that i wasn't able to state the level of frustration or protest. i mean the, that particular braces as well was phrased in such a way. of course it was quite obvious to which future they were sorry, but there was an element as deniability, plausible deniability to it. and i think that's kind of what allowed it to happen with them this a long ponder, going on that it more generally in civil society. a lot of, i mean very difficulties of trusting goals at the moment. but what i would say is,
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actually a lot of the findings are quite big us and they suggest a sort of sense of a lot of russians or just shooting off from the war. even we can see this quite literally in terms of the television. they get the place to stop watching the, the sort of, the more propagandist they can bombastic shows and there's a genuine feeling of kind of, well not that they would agree to anything that's certainly not the way to read it . but more than just you said you're going to just get on with it. and i think a general kind of fee and not wanting to take responsibility for what's happening, but i'd be there. i would certainly caution against any interpretation that this is sort of in the leaps or, and, and the russian people, you know, it's kind of being forced on the rushing people. i don't think that that would be correct interpretation. okay. you are writing a book called russia's war without any spoilers. how do you see it ending the war
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or the think i got to go to the eunice then, doesn't it both? if you, what it does is that to me, you know, 1st of all how to i just submitted the money last week. but 1st of all, i had a very depressing conclusion and it was, i just felt like it wasn't the right conclusion. and i changed it, and ultimately i do think that this will end in defeat to russia in some form. and i think that defeat will be very quickly to some sort of to some sort of collapse. now when this will happen, that i do not know, but i think things will go quite quickly. but the way, but i do think that i do think that this is russia for i think that this war resonates with people. and i think that broadly, people, if they don't fill on it than they do it, they agree to it, they accept it without condemning it. however, i think that russia isn't due to be this way. i think that could be, you know,
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could be a different russia countries change. and i think that the future we see a russia that, that is able to live at peace with itself and with its neighbors. but i don't really see the war ending until until that change until the russians are ready to make that change. and i think needs to be something organic and something that comes from from russia itself. dr. jade mcglenn of the monterey initiative in russian studies. thank you so much for all that key. ah, repair damage is over. we still have a problem with covered. we're still doing a lot of work on it. so it's what the pandemic is. so if you notice no one's wearing masks, everybody seems to be in pretty good shape. o. s. u. s. presidential vine. they're weighing in on the pandemic and a t v interview. that's raised eyebrows in the medical community, both at home and abroad. here in europe, the drugs regulator, the
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e. m. a pushed back against the suggestion that coven 19 was no longer a serious menace. we in europe still consider the pandemic as ongoing. that is important that the member states prepare for roll out of the vaccines and especially the adapted vaccines to prevent further spread of this disease in europe . i can now bring and dr. eric bible thing is an epidemiologist and coven task force, chief and co founder of the world health network in washington, dc. dr. fy holding. so good to see you again. first up to you as a medical professional, is the pandemic over? absolutely not. and we were all exasperated and very frustrated with the president biden's ad lib comments, which i might add his own white house co, a task force members, and no idea. he said before it aired on tv and was shared on twitter. so this
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was a very uncoordinated ad live comment, and it's, it is public health. nonsense. it is very dangerous. and right now, because we're trying to roll out by balance adapted vaccine in the u. s. and in other countries worldwide. and by telling people that dependent is over, there are going to be blown into complacency and not take these new back in which are absolutely critical to help ward off the winter wave and the winter wave is coming. so this was a horrible message and it's not true considering that in the us alone, 40000 americans have died of code in the last 90 days alone. in the 40500 people are dying a day, you know, and 911 level of death a week. that's just not acceptable. so i'm really, really sad to find. why do you think he said it? i think it's could be political because, you know, maybe china who some independent voters are ahead of the mid term elections, which is coming up in less than not a month and a half. ah, there could be
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a wide variety of reasons. i think it's also that, you know, he was at the, you know, a business industry auto show. ready are in detroit and he was trying to trend jennifer and, and say, you know, how well the economy is doing. but, you know, obviously saying look, look around, there is no one wearing mass with us because you know, your own, you know, administration has dropped mass mandates and i think in certain ways it wants to showcase that the economy is rubbing up, which is great. but then of course, there's the not just the desk also long co, it actually is hurting us workforce by huge, huge amounts. and i think just trying to sweep it under the rug for political optics ahead of the election is not a good idea because the virus is not here about politics as we have learned. and just sweeping the rug and law and people and complacency will sarah suffer even worse disaster when the inevitable winter wave comes. and you mentioned that before
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an average of 400 people are still dying every day in the us because of come at 1000000 suffer from long co read immunocompromised people live in fear of contracting the virus every day. so what is the statement like that from the president mean for them and their families? yeah, it's very disturbing because it's many ways it just ignores the plight of people with immunocompromised disease. with risk factors, it's own, it's able, isn't it? basically, if you have any of these diseases, you know tough, tough stuff, you know, life sucks for you, but you know, matter, that's what, that's the messages and no one went up. you know, high cdc says a list of 20 plus high risk factors for cobit, and they say if you have high risk factors, you now talk to your doctor. but this risk factor encompasses anywhere from $230.00 to $3.00 quarters of all adults in the united states. it is in turn in many ways c, c, 's own definition. you know,
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vast majority of the adults are high risk and to just ignore them and basically say, don't worry about it. you're actually hurting this population even more. and i think this able ism, this type of comment is really, really disturbing for people with risk factors in or trying to protect children as well. and just quickly, before we'll have to let you go, how can growing apathy or it or ignorance towards a continuing threat, undo the progress we have achieved since 2020. well, the key thing is if to let the virus spread, it's going to get more mutations that can evade previous existing immunity. so just because the pre existing unity does not mean you're going to what prevents the next on the crime and by a ladder. but just saying that the virus pandemic is over. you're just going to read more transmission and more transmission in more barriers. and we're going to be on this train all over again, and with there are more transmissible bearings out there. this is why getting the
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be a 5 booster right now is really, really key. but when people hear that over, you know, are people going to go out with the same urgency to get coaster? i think not. and that's what really scares me disturb epidemiologist. eric cycle thing always a pleasure. ah, the caribbean island of puerto rico is cleaning up after taking a beating from hurricane fiona and struck the island to as a relatively weak category. one storm, but it was a slow moving system that drops huge amount of rain causing widespread flooding. it also knocked out the islands power grid, just like hurricane maria did. 5 years ago, almost to the day this bridge was installed in recent years at a cost of some $3000000.00. beyond
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widespread damaged we infrastructure overflowing reverse have also forced cousins of people from their homes. authorities have opened more than a 100 shelters across the island. those will haven't fled their homes, have had to travel long distances to get essentially supplies. well, double go, we're looking for gasoline, water, ice, all the supplies necessary for getting through this storm. we were hoping it wouldn't be so big. oh, but well, it was bigger than we expected on the rental. but you have to make, due with what you have or where i do with such scenes of devastation of familiar input are equal which never fully recovered from hurricane maria. the 2017 storm was the worst recorded on the island. it left about 3000 people dead and forgot the longest bar blackout ever experience in the us. no,
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many areas in puerto rico are once again in darkness. part of the governor has one that it could take days to get the bar back on it more just audio in many areas that had never seen flooding are you there has been an unprecedented accumulation of water in which in fact, in many areas it was greater than what we saw during hurricane maria and maria po, dc. it is due to early to know the full scope of the damage. cattle. i mean, it is the journalist, an executive director of the center for investigative journalism in puerto rico and joins me now is not good to see. we're hearing 80 percent of puerto rico is still without power. what more can you tell us about the current situation? hi, good. hi everyone. in this situation you said most of the population does not have electricity or water right now. and there's also
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programs with internet and phone gonna be in some areas the south part of the i listed hardest. he logs everywhere. and, and basically what i off i own a left a lot of water and flaws in the south in florida. he, i'm, you know, we're really glad you could join us with all those problems with connectivity and, and, and power. this is a painful reminder of the disaster that struck puerto rico on this very day 5 years ago. what has been done since hurricane maria to increase puerto rico's overall resilience ah, the recovery after year again, maria has been very slow. very
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less than 10 percent of the money has been spent. of the recovery federal money to recover from from maria has been spent. so the main words that have to be done in order to recover you press structure and the most important infrastructure, how things, bridges, and other kinds of important words have not been done. why have they basically because of the bureaucracy of the federal government under local government the, the staff or that is the one that the federal government follow in order to, to disperse, monitor for recovery is very bureaucratic. they very main thing important. the always new procedures to the rel these recovery works
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and those experiments have not done well in terms of the structure and the, and the faces that municipalities, municipalities, how to follow in order to do the work. so yes, the, the lack of continually be in government to is also a problem. yeah. and in general, you know, also the inflation and other issues that are out of control. the government have also been a burden for journalists, carlin, and from puerto rico. thank you. so much for your time and that update from the island. thank you. and that, that for today, but as always the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter at the news on myself at nicole underscore really pronounce from me and the entire team here on the day. thanks for spending part of your day.
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