lisa style and donald funding between hitler and hollywood. in 1932, they sent out into the icy wilderness of greenland to create a life threatening film project that became a major milestone in their lives. love seduction, and our ice cold passion starts october 8th on d w. it's time again for your favorite, you'd sure to 77 percent on this program. we talk about all the things that are important to young africans. the name is or t, michael or t and on to this program, i want to talk to you about inequality. it is estimated that africa's 3 riches below near men, half more wealth than the bottom, 50 percent of their population. so if you put a wealth of 600000000 africans together, it has not much up to the top,

the wealthiest men on the continent. if you want to hear what this sort of disparity does to people and societies, then come with me to mckoko in legos. my colleague, it had kimani and her crew bought at one of the small fish and canoes to the settlement, to talk to the people who feel left behind. i hello and welcome back to the 7 to 7 percent this week. we are in lagos, nigeria, more specifically, where in michael and informal area in this place now recently are the most recent figures by then a jury. a bureau statistics indicate that about 18000000 people living in extreme poverty. this means people who and just over $300.00 a year. but the world bank estimates that that figure will probably have shot up to $100000000.00 by the end of this year. that's 2022. and so we're wondering how did those people who live in extreme poverty live side by side with some of the richest

on the continent, and what does that disparity to society? well, i've got here a panel of very good looking people who are ready to speak to me, and i'm going to start with henry who was for oxfam. and you also did a report on in quality, but before we get to your findings, this is the 1st time that you're hearing mckoko. just give me your views so far what, what do you think it's is quite sad disheartening to see on ground what we on the lies on people our somewhere in the on television or in the media. i haven't seen r o y displaces so disassociated from the rest of the of the country. i haven't quite seen a people as impoverished as i'm seeing here today. i will see in an environment asa visited how some scene here today. i will quite seen lack of government present like i'm seeing here today is, is quite disheartening. i must say. all right, so i want to ask noel, who, by the way, we are at a school, a noise, the one who runs a school or so you live in this area. how does it feel to hear that your fellow negotiate? who live just next door?

i've never been here in these girls rashawn, do shug goods russia on the poor get poorer? because all these a communist goblet system for more to wander years on the publisher will be, will have, you know, what i hear is will what i want a 1000 to put thousands of children at home. doctor decal on the dishes, in ecologist under dazzled grub. my presence in this communist. okay, let me uh speak to camp for a 2nd. so the people your assisting come from these sorts of communities. but is it common for you to hear that the people who live in these communities are excluded? as henry was saying from the rest of society, yes. so most of these women are really excluded form, like for us, the financial system. so most of them are left behind. so we are coming to reach doug because like you see, most of us who end it'll have cool. i tried some of them to know have bank account, didn't have it. so we helped facilitate that. we helped them kick start stuff and i

say inclusion john, all right, before we get to you know, what can be done to stop this inequality. henry, i want to come back to you because i want to understand, you know, michael has been in existence as we've heard from noah for over a 100 years. but how did we get to this place where an entire community is living on the outskirts of a city and being excluded in every sense of the word, the issue of poverty. it's not us in sort of resources not been available is because our resources are available, but a few people that one percent of that 5 percent have actually hedge up the entire resources and opportunity. and so i, so far, all, some of the drive us off inequality, right? that includes our political car capture, right? we are politics actually up looking to pull his car in actually capture the entire opportunity on resources. i do what i drive was actually included. i hope we, we do high cost of governance. yeah. okay. let me ask the other, are you like to add? all right, let me introduce fun. me to the, to the, to the conversation. going okay. very big issue that i found out among people with

the via is regressive, that taxation people in this community office, i mean, people year, to not really once we leave displeased, they wants districts to be suitable for them to fish. and then when they get to the market where they want to sell their fish every time someone is coming to them say, or you have to pay the stocks you have to pay back stocks, you have to pay this tax. now in nigeria, they claimed public education is free. what then before you're charged and i says that public education love to show proof of the rent of docs. unfortunately, the kind of talks i did pick is not the kind of black box that has proved that you pay tax, which means that they also have to pay another form of tax, i think is $20000.00 here before they're enrolled in support this school. so this is a reason why many people yeah, do not have access to education, did love us, it else care. i know that economic drive us. okay, let me speak to henry because i wanted to ask him, having grown up, you grew up in michael korea but not on the water side. on the land side. are these the reality the to experiencing every day? what growing up there was light, so bring up the medical for me outside that

a privilege. good to privilege in the sense that i had to you know, try as much as was who linda by the through. yes. going with parents, your parents. i to get there and definitely do really want to push you to do more, more in, in a scenario by your parents to or, nor really try to keep it. and even the environment you find yourself are people are not pushing dots, a level of education in h o you though. yeah. of thousands of children. women are under st. snow going to school. yeah. to bore. i'm just of what you that my parents out to get it on the fight. he knew duff la fight for me to make sure that i attend our degree of education. right. so what you're describing hayes, what academics would say is a cycle of poverty, j. daniel, is that something that you also experienced? no, you didn't grow up in michael, but as an informal settlement as well. well, it was the experience similar to what we're observing, minus similar what not this extreme. because i mean coming from a place where you have to constantly um, provide for yourself. you have to constantly do things for yourself just like,

oh my fellow colleague said that the governments are not really interested in our well being. we'll seen on government organizations come down to these communities just to take pictures because you want to post on social media. they want to make it look like you're doing something. so i think what is the real problem? it's not that we don't have the resources, but the problem is they really don't see this. people are all okay. let me move to . fortune was standing right next to you and he is an advisor actually to a local official. and so being the person who informs the kind of decisions that are taken to restore places like this, i guess the question is why is nothing changing ok on the street is what you are seeing here today is not just peculiar to this community. a distant presence in all every other african countries. and i want to believe that, but really not this extreme. yes, but what i'm trying to seen in nashville is, is what you are seeing here today is, is, is

a result of greed. or you get to me as a result of great, you know, the african leaders in all the, i've not called cut greed. and that is why we are not impact sick. so police, he's like these just like what said, danny just said, you know, sometimes the good to dis long. it took b chores and the rest of the town got i am here today and i have seen her 1st found myself a 1st very bought so very pathetic. like, you know, human beings like me are leave union, this kind of it. police are you get to me? that's why i said it's not those peculiar to these way. please. it transcends or you get to me. so yes, yes, yes, i a bit before before we, before we get to the 2 of you, let me invite to the other, daniel i, yes, we have to daniel's. and to henry is i hope you can keep up. so daniel, we're talking about distribution of resources and i have to ask because you work and found it if i believe, follow the money out where the gobs every year when the budget is read out, these a lot of money being pumped into the country. why isn't it getting here?

it's been a systemic issue for people not to be able to for government are supposed to kid the for the needs of people living is going to speak. but to take care of them. dear is so much greed is so much of a problem of people not on a sunday funding. there is need for people to be to be taken care of. so leadership is a major problem and that is all your local. all right, no i you wanted to know, i wanted to say something like a little bit amy. okay. what, uh, what for move. yeah. in the interior, every child does homage, bush or whatever. well, what that doesn't actually come to the school, what are under the law, how you can take a life from the water and put it on the lot dialogue to survive. it kind of us about how many schools are here. no school there. this is the middle school. what's on here? we also have some support for school. we do this company to do you have any hospitals, police station with diesel police or what time would you have to go? miss school goes to government maternity does. which are what are we be living here from what? andreas? yeah. i mean, it had something to say to me and then henry, i'm guessing what, daniel, i say this is like, this are not developed,

not because the government goes on with that issue developing well, because the government, the government is bent on co, much allies in places like this, for example, on an island which is presenting like the most expensive is where you are leaving the ghost is, was islam, and we have a lot of people will leave you moved to dismissal, banana island. so places like these identified by the government and i have read and also spoken with companies member who told me that it doesn't on it. so the man 12, i think says not through this, this was about to be demolished on them. they got a notification to, did they go, we found right that they have sold, disappears to some government officials on that in 2 years. this, this is going to keep going to be more loose. and then if that happens in 5 years, you are going to see a fancy sta, that is going to be sold to people that cannot afford deeds. and it's still going to be the same rich people that are buying the sim assets that we have in here. okay. let me ask henry, because having lived in this community, was that a fear that you had? because i've had it said that, yeah,

people don't know if tomorrow they're going to wake up and their house is going to be under water. yeah, that's why most people, when you look at houses, some of them don't really wants to innovate the house because you're scared of kid, but sure, we're not gonna just common take all of us. we. so why am i doing this for the morning when i'm looking up to that? if governments want him to have up, which is what i, what, okay, what does social life you would? how did you want to keep surviving? because this week was fish. i mean, they need to fish in water, stuff like that. so it's going to take them out with the way i'd been doing. let me, let me, let me ask for you for a 2nd here because based on this, on the, in the rooms you sit with is the plan to get rid informal settlements. like michael recently there was something up in the particular community in legos states. and in lot you chose discovered that in a song processor dropped to particular please, you know, give us with your cronies. but our equal renter. gov nor you know, he came to set the stand as deeds on in the street and shot dots. you know,

the rifle or nuts of the properties in all had are says to the properties and it is the for the people in that community fee. are you getting me? so sometimes i think we, we are also having issues with inform me shows. i'm not telling you that some of this is are not happening. are you getting me? but we, what i know right now d, d, d, present got know we have in lucas did is a very, very, as in plots you've got no, like, you know, he's very emphatic. yes. from henry, who had something to say to me earlier, and then we'll come to, you know, yes, i wanted to mention at defax i, when he met on greed that fast. and i said, i recall what happened. i just saw 2 weeks ago of a particular of mentor official who was accused of stealing 80000000000. and i can imagine what 80000000000 can do in dismantle communism. can actually build a law up to the 4 schools here. we can build up to a for, or that hospitals will of international stand that provide the basic amenities for

dispatch black committee. but well, what we see is the revised what we see the revised because most of this government, official jackets, eyes cooler, broad in the you care in the u. s. on all of that. the, the go for, for, for, for health stories in themselves. you know, they don't have we, it's local. yeah. so, so, so when can i actually i tell you go to lunch and watch and what's out. asked now much my example and i come back in the evening. i have breakfast in league or so it's it's so it's so pathetic that so i've got my coffee house of doors, exactly care and next year's election. they'll be all about it, or would it people down in local police is in or asking them to vote for them, but be all about right. embassy would people and on the streets, begging boats when they secure the sports. com. 2023. that is out there. from the street, okay. back into a coupla days. that distrust not distress but these lack of transparency from the people who are running for office in as far as what their plans are with this area . okay. but you're actually doing something to try and transform these community to tell us what you're doing. we're barking 2015. i said talking to my friends. i said

i, we need to start teaching our friends, our friends, friends, but in the community on graphics design, coding and microsoft excel, we need them to learn as q, so they can provide for themselves. perez, it doesn't seem like we have jobs for when we started. we noticed there was a problem because most of us we did not amusing us because it's inclusive. now most of us from our community don't know how to read and write in english. so that was when we studied on providing them would be excused. like how to understand english, how to write an english, how to solve my to martinez and from dead. the idea roof. we say getting on with i get an notice from on, on bigger organizations within our communities, people only infest inconvenient to slide these when they santini when there's something that again, okay, i want to move the conversation along because unfortunately the rain is threatening to throw this party off, but we must continue. so one of the consequences, no, i want to come back to you because we've had a lot about insecurity in this country. i'm wondering if it's

a symptom of inequality. what are some of the things that you're seeing as a result of people being left behind? if there's any college in the country, we got some from guys drone 30 joy people doubt brew riled. because didn't have dr . drew to learn what to do right. on the end of got a petition government to do, did you do something here? for me, i'd like to hear what ah, this subtle or this level of inequality does for women? because unfortunately, our agenda is always disproportionately affected when it comes to issues like this in communities like this. i cases of course, marriages, chad my age is to me. fancy abuse, andrea. because all we have called her out of southern culture on such an albany is not tend to think that we may not of the less of value we men should get married as soon as possible. but we have found out lots many government policies that we have in idea. it wind is coming into the laundry about it because we have very, we have no government presidency. also,

when we men are forcefully married out when we main ah, raped when we met his domestic violence, we do not house support for they me how as the federal government tried to reach companies like this to a show that we many this from the jesse's day all right, so let me ask fortune that same question. you did speak very highly about your governor earlier, but the question is, why hasn't that governor brought schools, hospitals, police stations to this place if you think so highly of it, okay. when we talk about developments, when we talk about said goods, it's just not just an automatic thing or you get to me it's, it's, it's 6 got dropped process. so for me, i have when we are getting rid of these very please, because i know data sometimes in the future, anything can come more or you go to me. i know i don't, i don't understand that. so you don't develop it because of what might happen in the future. no, no, no, i'm not saying it's not going to be different loops. you know, are the moments right now. i don't even know what is the plan of the government cosigning these white police because i don't even know that the police like these

dos as i'm just having the idea to do so. i cannot actually so good. this is what has been dear, or this is what is going to happen. yeah. okay, daniel, ah, let me, let me, let me come to henry a. daniel, you're itching, talk to me, talk to me, daniel. so it is obvious that there is no sustainable planning or government, she gently on how to misplace what is supposed to be. the only don't get to your government in the news. iran is just like, this is where, ok, we need to demolish players. what can we need to find a place or maybe move even in, in moving to people there is no sustainable plan. yeah. to move them please please please. are you suki? this is a better i me from. as no. i said, i don't think movingly is the option because they're fishermen, they don't want to me. exactly. so if things, cynthia did really want to see you. what is the plan for disco, henry, henry, what is it? okay, what was your time? of course you got mantles, i always love excuses, trust me. and he asked yankee, i'll give you another business cuz they don't get a while ago. but again,

you say you see a committee like this is, is, is similar to the court area where we had a law reg detailing project lance, lance, we again from the see from the, what's as, why can begin this land from this water. and i handed over back to the people, and i give them access to the see where they can fish, because a lot of men piracy is becoming a part that we're getting for them, said angrily for their own good. pick up the big names in danger. already already 5 big balloon. yes. the, the comfortable spend your wealth in the lifetime and did a community existing like this. so so let the good kind of wanted to hello to heaven. well, i get one day, one of that begin to look at, look at what i mean of, of actually reduce written bus resources to taxes. this issues i, because both men do not prioritizing, formerly called me trust me. jackson is that consciousness is environmental, right? but there are that much i see. yeah. and what, yes. the area i was gonna see on sooner. see, let me just let me just a new lease. he was saying something about in with the machine affects him the

people under rest of weeks. if you want to change, that is consequences for change or you get to me, if the very place is going to a spurious development, automatic gully, every inhabitants of this way place must be affected. so it's not like nearby i am defending the government or whatsoever. if they're going to develop these ready, please, it is not sonton or 3 years because this place is what are lot. are you getting resort? is something i would took years. i didn't turn my descent. it depends on the kind of dilemma latinos, are we talking about diploma in the sense that you want to demolish? if you're looking at us, if they're gonna develop these ready, please. it's has to got done because there's lots of for you told enough bits. yes . no, no, it's wrong. okay, okay, let me, let me a blow job. i was on became a capital i was i became a capital in in 9089. i'm moving over from lagos. well no, hold on, hold on. let us to i, buddha,

i love to have happen. a lot of things happen in i will everyone, everyone, while i love the energy of this debates, we need to have it be one person at a time, henry, let's hear from you. yes. so so when, when let, when cut the cup that move trabusia. but then the use of a boucher wrath obtained and do it directly to relocate to a safe place before was it as we develop window, developed them of them back to the lab. what fortune is saying that something less, it's not, it's not exactly the same. what's what they can do, right? is the same to them. what's the real kick them out? yeah, i love your present. bring them back. okay. okay, so i'm sorry. we have to wrap up and so i'm a got to ask for solutions. i need to know what the nigerian government can do, what african governments can do to close the gap between the rich and the poor. let's hear from you, daniel. and in terms of solutions, i think one needs to be done is proper sensitization within this community. we need to festival. the government needs to calm down into this, please, and make them feel loved. first, they need to be empowered. they need to know that the government care, the younger people here, she talked about on the rate of rebates,

within this community. the gilson to be taken care of. they need to be education within displeased. exactly need skews. we leave in the community where it's either you're self employed or you're not doing anything. so we need to empower them. definitely when you talk about the people from this place, the only perceived them to be treats key to cause violence to cost nuisance, and these things aren't intentional. so for the government to see change for the government to see our progress, the need to bring this people into the system. i'll fortune you've got something to say to me was when i started, i said our problem in africa is greta. now, for doses are done and mentioned should be common reality. one, the african governments must conquer group. number 2 or henry serge are legislators id, ford highest speed in the world. they have to coach on government part done on

government calls, you know, they wouldn't know. it's possible, you know, use brazil yet, there's a whole lot going on in africa right now. okay. whole lot of revolutions under restaurant. and certainly not somebody goes what if this is somewhat harpooned, our governments in africa was called god, greed. ok. because there's so much this enormous resources in africa to take your less use like these. what the problem is these, that if you are not sitting on the common weights off the masses, all right, so can let me hear from you any solutions for me. how do we stop income inequality? so for me, i miss alicia and i'll give to the government is for if almost settlements ladies data is key. so how do you, do you know how many people need? yes. then for this settlement to concrete unlock was housing for this people so and you don't need to empower their women. so because we believe that when you empower . 1 it woman, she emp, azako, me, diesel, great in solutions to,

to bring about economic opportunities for the people in disco amenities, so skills development, assess to finance. it's very key because you can't teach me as cable. if i don't have to walk in tools. i will glance that a business or was not this week. we did, we will no doubt organizations that can help them. you don't need to stay your community to be in. you can go outside, be empowered and you come back on change location. it's fantastic. daniel, let's hear from you. okay, so i think woman is a sure sincerity on commitments. make sure people you are the moment just leave you before them. the resources that are meant for them, please let it gets or do make them feel like the launch of the legislature. okay. henry, you said something earlier about the richest man not being able to spend his wealth in a lifetime, but should he give it up? i mean, if you had billions, would you give it up for the gold measurement, deliberate about it, god bless you, the instrument of tax to redistribute, that's kind of resources here. such data, the poorest of person can i tell you have access to the,

the most basic of facilities and amenities. what goldlick i'm also do is to be populous with deliberate, to invest in critical sectors here like health education on an infrastructure to also ensure that these people have access to them while making us well assured that young people have jobs. yeah. because the reason why you see a love is the christina conscience, because this guys don't have jobs if you'll credit job for them and give them a meaningful environment, there will not be honest, you know, not be honest to carrying gone with. i kinda feel okay mondays and i think i got i should able to, to move up to you. so several disability pumped into trinity. okay. for me, do you have any ideas of what we can do to end? well, thing the quality, the government needs to stop listening to people from community such as the us up stop listening to just while you see a spots well, most likely never stepped our feet into this community. for example, if accident in people don't say, oh, move them out of this community. i'm people from this company, jesse, we want to be bid, just want to make it better. so comes to such as this should be listened to, half the all me students, and get with them. why engage with them? i interesting to them,

you know exactly what feeds for between each community. ok. and i'd like to close this debate by asking no, our personal question. if you had it your way and you had all the money in the world and the power, what would be the 1st 3 things he would do for the people of mexico? the 1st to know do is to michelle, do how best to educational 2nd is to measure that they are on medicare. would it be common to is to thought ways to empower dukes because i i thought people who were born are booked up or what i hear is he asked about 40 years, but the of the, my step on lunch on is very comfortably. b. j bud fisher coming back the dublin to tell you that live in or what that is our culture. yeah, i will one or both of you. if, if i do have the opportunity to go to school cumbersome, can 2 ladies correct? that's why i want enough generational to help us with because all right, thank you. thank you so much, noah. and thank you to our panelists who have braved the board to come here who

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