ah, your responsibility is huge, they have so much to lose. shattering the glass ceiling women in architecture dismiss has to be really, really good. start september 30th on d. w. it's with flooded me pollutants. dangerous new show has begun going door to door russian proxies and even armed soldiers are asking residence of 4 occupy ukrainian territories, to vote and sham referendums on whether they want to become part of russia. the outcome is foreseeable, what isn't, is what'll come next. how will the kremlin respond to ukrainian attempts to regain control over annexed regions, and what does russia swallowing up? 15 percent of ukraine's territory mean for the people who still live there?

i'm nicole ferla, him, berlin, and this is the day ah, just hold. this is definitely negative through the problem is organized sham referendum to try to annex parking grade thought excess young. any other sation of estates her she by another state resulting from a threat. so use of force is a violation of the un charter and of international law. this up, we won't accept a piece dictated by russia, and we won't accept sham referenda from it's it's been ration drake. hey, legitimize their presence of dead aah! also on the day campaigning ends in italy ahead of a crucial vote that sets the country on course for its 1st far right leaders and

dictator, benito mussolini. i'll post it again on the screen that instead of implementing big changes there will do small, evil changes. people like against minorities, homosexuals are poor people and immigrants, one little unique godaddy. ah, they want it to stay put until their home towns were fried by ukrainian troops. but now scores of people living and russian occupied territories of ukraine are scrambling to leave hope for a liberation has faded ever since the kremlin announced a staged vote to annex for regions under its control. desperate to create facts on the ground, russia is looking to seize 15 percent of ukrainian territory in a move. the west has vowed to never recognize vote organizers in done yet is making house calls, bringing the ballot boxes straight to the people. amid the backdrop of war, residents are being asked to vote on joining the russian federation. ease. of

course, it's important. we were wondering when we would join russia and life will be comma a list of the so called referendums are being held over 5 days. russian news outlets say most of the voting will take place door to door kremlin installed leaders in the regions have been preparing for months signing up residence as russian citizens in lieu hans some see the vote as a way out of war and deprivation. long regular lives. i think the referendum will be for the best or via that that there will be water and electricity. the people will feel like they are on day native man to devote severe chills to what lot of noisy maria. but for those who fled to ukrainian held parts of upper regia, the votes are a sham. but though it's a violation of international law,

it's a fake task to show that occupied territories want to join the russian federation, which is a total lie once the so called referendums are completed, moscow could then claim that its own territory is under attack with weapons provided by the west. as now bring in catherine lawler. she's a senior analyst at the institute for the study of war. welcome. how closely linked . do you think are these sham referendums in ocoee by ukraine to the mobilization order in russia? i think they're closely interrelated announcing annexation and mobilization within one week of one another makes that clear and there's a few reasons behind us. so one of the driving forces behind both our is the recent success of ukrainian counter fences. putin expected this to be a 72 hour war,

and instead he's 8 months in and he's losing ukrainian forces are taking back occupied ukrainian territory, bit by bit. and russian forces are failing to hold their front lines. they desperately need more man power. so the decision to forcibly mobilize hundreds of thousands of russians is an attempt to address a few of the short term needs of russian forces. it allows them to back fill their front lines with untrained bodies, basically cannon fodder. and if they don't care about training their people and a lot of evidence suggests they do not care. but training this 1st wave of mobilized personnel any more than they've cared about training their volunteer battalion recruits. you can move some untrained forces forward quickly, but it's not going to have a practical effect. and one of the most likely reasons why russian president putin has linked annexation and mobilization, is that he can now exploit a law that bans the deployment of conscripts who haven't done sufficient training to conflict abroad. and if you cranium territory is suddenly russian territory

under russian law. russia can legally and openly deploy conscripts to the front lines. they've been doing that all along, but they'll increase those deployments. but if you're saying that militarily and won't make a difference, if he throw, let me phrase it that way. bodies at the problem, why is he doing it? i think russian military leadership may believe that this will work, but, but it's actually going to exacerbate the logistical challenges and equipment shortages and may even cause more problems for russia than for ukraine. but i don't think they have a clear understanding of what's actually happening on the ground at let's talk about the annexation efforts. large parts of the upper regia and daniel are not under russian control at the moment. what do you think putins plan is there? honestly, i think the plan is incoherent. the kremlin is going to find itself demanding that ukrainian forces unoccupied, supposedly russian territory. but they won't be able to enforce that demand,

and by choosing to illegally annex occupied ukraine and calling it russian territory. they might be hoping to deter additional ukrainian counter offensives and to deter western military aid to ukraine by falsely claiming that western equipment is targeting russian territory. but i think the russians are underestimating the western will to support ukrainian sovereignty, as well as disregarding repeated and explicit western statements that ukraine is within its rights to use western equipment against russian forces on occupied ukrainian soil, including in hernia, how willing to think of russia is to escalate the conflict once. there are a counter attacks on what they perceive to be their own territory. we'll have to wait and see, but russian forces have not retaliated for ukrainian attacks into crimea in an escalator re weigh. and i wouldn't expect them to be capable of dramatic escalation in the near term while they're still mobilizing these forces. to what extent will

ukrainians in the occupied territories be forced by russia to fight against their own country? now, if russia annexed as these territories, which it will, conscription will absolutely apply to these newly annexed territories. a forced mobilization has been going on for years in the russian proxy controlled parts of denouncing the hans and in some villages that russia has occupied since 2014. there are no ukrainian men of fighting, aged, left, and public preparations are already underway in places like f, reesha and her song to forcibly mobilize ukrainian civilians to fight against the ukrainian military and likely with a metaphorical or physical gun to their backs. already back in may you correctly predicted all of what we're seeing today? how do you see the coming 3 months pending out? realistically,

i don't think russia is going to be able to raise enough quality troops to change the course of this war in the short term, and probably not in the long term either. these reservists, they're not trained, they're not reservices like we would think of in the us or europe. many have no experience or maybe one years experience is a conscript decades ago. many don't want to fight. so the russians are making the same mistakes that they've made all along, and they're throwing untrained men at the front lines to back fill in 2 units that are already totally degraded and demoralized. and they're exacerbating their own logistical shortages. so i think the war isn't close to over, it's not going to end in the next 3 months. but ukraine will conduct successive counter offensives into the new year to continue to liberate its territory. and russia's mobilization and anika occupied ukraine won't change the facts on the ground, which are that ukraine is advancing and russian forces are falling apart. we'll talk again in 3 months then that was katherine lawler,

at the institute for the study of war. many thanks. thank you. oh, italy heads for the poles this weekend with an alliance of right wing parties, tip for victory. the elections are likely to produce italy's 1st female prime minister, but also the 1st government led by the far right since the 2nd world war, front runner, georgia, maloney once called dictator benito mussolini, a good politician and has been struggling to distance herself from the neo fascist past of her party. oh, they are gearing up for a victim. tens of thousands have gathered here in rome in support of this self described centre right coalition. former prime minister, silvio berlusconi, x interior minister, mature. so the and the rising star on the far right. georgia maloney have joint forces, maloney of the post fascist brothers of italy party looks like to become italy's

next prime minister. campaigning on guard family and homeland. there are few. she may rollback on civil rights and danger democracy. people here see maloney's party as the answer to many problems generally seeks to safeguard our national identity within an increasingly globalized world that is increasingly crisis from the point of view. okay, good youngest, we believe that without her, our country will continue in a downward spiral that has been going on for a while and to have is looking at it. sure. jam alone is right. is definitely not a radical right. it has a right that basically defends italy's interests and a non radical nationalist, right? guy yap. her supporters want a strong leader and to night maloney renews her promise to take on the establishment. who has frightened of us. there are people who are afraid. friends of those who are in positions, they do not deserve just because they are members of the democratic party. it's good, they fear us. you go. italians will be heading to the polls on sunday after

a broad government coalition lapsed earlier in the summer. the last government here in italy can be seen as a successful one in many ways managed to navigate part of the covert crisis and also saved italy, a huge chunk of the recovery fund. but it was also a technical government supported by parties, both on the left and on the rights. and in the end, a lot of people simply didn't know what this government stood for. a difficult economic situation and the government's failure to respond has also disappointed a lot of voters, something that a large parts of the country, the center right, was able to use to their advantage. but there are also many a few of them. apollo again, i'm afraid that instead of implementing big changes, they will do smart, evil changes he like against minorities. homosexuals are poor people and immigrants, scantily may get audio local wiggles that is here more. it's not like the opposition would be any better, but at least they would maintain some kind of democratic basis for the country ma'am. yeah. visa in italy,

public opinion is divided between the left and the right. the reason the center right is so far ahead in the polls has to do with their strategy. the part is there are traditionally representing people from the left did not run together. they did not managed to make a single coalition is very south. this is the 1st important advantage by descent. the right the right has the attention of the entire country. they are setting the agenda during the selection campaign. the democratic party, their largest rival on the left, has been live playing catch up, met shamore a lot at stake. what a social and economic model is at stake. fiscal proposal, it's by the right that favorite people, if i get the proposal for more presidential system and modifying the constitution. and i've also that, but it's an intel ease. normally fietta legacy itsyana. it is too early to tell what a far right government would mean for italy and europe. throughout the campaign, georgia maloney has sought to tone down her messages to convince moderate voters to

vote for her. if this election really is any indication, she may well have succeeded and for more were joy now from round binding w. a correspondent, bentley, good band. italy has had far right parties and government before but never as the strongest force. how concerned are italians about the prospects of maloney as prime minister the italian electrodes and also the italian society is to split in the middle and to the left block and the right block. and of course the left leaning voters, fear that mrs. maloney might turn back the clock and on the right side, the voters a hoping of betting on mrs. maloney to be able to fight inflation to fight the crisis of the cost of living and to to make good of all her promises. and so we will see actually winds, but the split is there and this is not you. the electorate is split as since 30

years. now the brothers of italy party maloney's party has been trying to distance itself from its neo fascist roads. but earlier this week, one of its candidates was actually suspended after breathing. hitler. and can you tell us more about what this party actually stands for? was the fortelli vitalia the, the brothers of italy are clearly rooted in fascism and post fissures. and you can tell that a simply from the party symbol, it's aflame in the italian colors. and that also is connected very strongly to benito mussolini. the former dictator and mrs. maloney is even using a slogans or from benito mussolini a. but she's also on the other side trying to distance herself from fascism and portray her so as a normal conservative if you wish, as as a christian conservative a,

she will stick to the values of family she says. and so she's saying i overcame my opposed fascist routes and but now she's turning down everything. and we will see if that holds a because many of her followers in the party are still, you know, a half sympathies for mussolini. and other people are a former prime minister, silvio berlusconi or her center, right, for us ain't ha, is very likely to be in the next coalition government as well. he raised eyebrows to day by saying putin was pushed into the war in ukraine by his own people. let's have a listen and, and come back to you. but the booty, nick, i do good and got himself into a tough situation. a, a dramatic situation officially a that a massacre cooler group, but also the owner russian troops were supposed to enter, keep within a week. so we placed as a landscape government with good people, and then be out of there in another week. and rent receipts humanity,

coordinating it, ban italy, has been a steadfast supporter of ukraine since the russian invasion is unlikely to change under the new leadership. no, i don't think so. you, as you can see behind me, the facade of fir parliament is still lit in blue and yellow of the ukrainian colors. and that will most likely stay because mrs. maloney, the lead of felicity darya says, a put in is wrong with us war. she is supporting ukraine and she is also for the sanctions against russia. if her coalition partners have the same stands that has to be seen, but in the, the pillars of foreign policy of italy will not change under maloney imposter. see the center left democratic party come in, just 3 points behind the brothers and italy actually, is there any chance they could pull off a surprise coalition and come out and on? yeah, there's a small chance because the poets or the last polls were taken 14 days ago and the

pulses now say there's a 60 percent chance that the ride block rubin and a 40 percent chance that the social democrats, the p d might be, are the strongest party but even if they achieve that and the social democrats don't have a collision partner, there is no coalition on the left side. and so to form a government would be very difficult and st. and so the majority of italians is still thinking that the right will been and eventually with former government. and we don't have much time in my van, but i do want to ask it because usually you're based and brussels. how nervous are people there about italy's predicted swing? if i write the addresses is very nervous because herb mrs. maloney deciding was poland and hungary, which are also an against many you policies. and these countries, the national conservative a camp would have a very strong ally. if italy is governed by a right wing block,

you know you've been doing it in round many, thanks ah, rush us war on ukraine and the resulting disruption of global energy markets have shifted many people's attention away from the world's environmental crises. but the summer's heat waves and droughts in europe, wild fires and the record monsoon flooding and pakistan are all reminders that climate change is very much still happening here in berlin. and in cities around the world, people took to the streets and rallies, organized by the fridays for future movement. the demonstrations were time to remind global leaders meeting at the united nations in new york, that governments must take action now to avert catastrophic climate change. and i can now speak to dominican le, so does. she's a polish climate and social justice activists and joins us from new york city,

missouri. so to welcome you are in new york this week we're a lot of attention has been focused on the war in ukraine. is the international community losing sight of the climate crisis? well, 1st of all, i think we need to ask ourselves how the war in ukraine is actually addressed here at the united nations general assembly and over the week as we have been very closely following up here as this ukranian pull this allocation on fridays. if you're active, appear unfortunate being to say that the war and ukraine just as the climate crisis does not address properly. because, you know, we hear a lot of work being directed towards the craniums. we hear a lot about the political concern for the situation. but honestly, there is so little talk about the fossil fuel, whoops, of this war. and the fact that europe is so dependent on the social people from routine and sponsoring to where the machine is operating in ukraine. and that's for sure you will root of that situation. and ukraine is also what leads us to the climate crisis. and i feel like what we're seeing here at the you went this week is

just leaders, again running away from the root of the crises that they're experiencing now. and not really coming with appropriate action towards the russian invasion, as, as well as the climate emergency at the united nations. so you personally have the possibility to speak to some leaders directly, how they responded to you. well, as so we have been reaching out to many delegations here, including the polish delegation, the german delegation here. and unfortunately, delegations haven't responded to ask them, you know, we have been given answers about that. they are very busy being here at the us about, you know, this is not the 1st occasion where political leaders are and not willing to speak with us. we have been, however, successful and reaching to actually the leader of the be a little the free be let us know much, you know, scott, the president elect of dealers. and we did that because we feel like that be a little. and the leader as her treats regime some dictatorships like to teen,

like christian because seriously, and we have been speaking with her about the need for the embargo on nation and their due, which could only which could as well and solve the situation. ukraine also take down dictators like concussion call, and we have been speaking about the need for, for a true democracy, interest security, which right now requires phasing folks, if you will, across europe. and you have been pushing on many platforms for a fossil fuels embargo on russia. what seems to be standing in the way of that i feel like the main thing that stands behind is, is the fact that politicians are still putting profits over people's life. and you know, this just taking the example of chancellor schoultz than 7 months despite him, you know, sort of branding himself as the climate leader in europe as the gar, intent of democracy and peace and freedom in our european community. he has been so far, the leading sponsor of fossil fuels, which we know, he uses the profits from him, use this to fuel the machine in ukraine and to,

to q will duct of destruction. and you know, we will hear those, those we see that was neither an unfortunate despite the warnings that the learned by the resistance that we are we are building as young people. they are not still who think the embargo be, are not still putting in climate action, climate protection. they're not facing out fossil fuels and investing in rapid renewable energy expansion because they prefer to, you know, stem together with fossil fuel companies with c o z drink champagne with them at climate summit or at the you when summit instead of actually protecting people's lives. and implementing the change that we have been fighting for years now. how important are days like today the global crime, it strikes to bring your cause to the forefront? i feel like base like this. you know, today we have the 11 global climate strikes since 2018 and i think on days like this, we really see the power that young people represent. and the fact that,

you know, despite the fact that all of those politicians would prefer, we stay at home or stay at university stay of school. we go to the streets, we take those trains that we demand action to, to, to, to literally save our friends lives and, and to protect ecosystems around the world. but i think they like this also to me are to be fair quite heartbreaking because, you know, i'm 20 years old and you know, we have to go to the streets to demand basic protection of human life. and it's just shouldn't be this way. and the fact that we still have to do this for the 11 time and the fact that those politicians, despite hearing all the science, healing all the fact that the most important you see the tragedy that people experience speed up in ukraine or in pakistan. we're now the one 3rd of the country is under water and 30 people threaten 1000000 people are displaced despite all of that. they still prefer stand on the side of also you will see, oh, and of the money and of the profit instead of the side of people's life. i think it's quite heartbreaking. and i hope that as many people today feel that hard bring

me feel because we feel betrayed, we feel betrayed, and we can no longer wait for them to change. that change should have come to years ago and it's still isn't here coming to color. so to climate activists from poland, very good speaking to you today. thank you. ah. award winning british author, hillary mantell has died. she was 70 years old than tell is best known for her wolf hauled trilogy. i was a fictional account of 16 centuries statesman. thomas cromwell, its old, more than 5000000 copies, and was translated into 41 languages. mantell one the booker prize twice, and was considered one of the greatest writers of her generation. that's our time for today, but as always, the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter at the de leon and

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