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as allies reject the results. also coming up, european leaders, blame sabotaged for 3 leagues spewing gas into the baltic, sea scientists detective explosions along russia's north stream pipelines. moscow says it's not to blame and also wants answers. and iranian athletes here in berlin, part of the diaspora, desperate to find out what's happening in their homeland, amid the deadly cracked l. protesters in the streets, plus typhoon no roof slams into southeast asia, bringing floods and fierce winds. the clean up begins in vietnam as thailand already sport. heavy rain. ah. hello, i'm terry martin. thanks for joining us. ukraine and it's western allies have rejected the results of so called randoms held in for russian occupied regions. moscow
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installed officials say between 87 and 99 per cent of residence, voted yes to being annexed into the russian federation. some of the separatist leaders have already formerly requested incorporation. ukraine's president has allowed, has bowed to defend all his country's territory and force russia out of the occupied zones. once again, russia seems poised to take over neighboring territory illegally. moscow says the referendums, unoccupied. ukraine reflect the voice of the people, and that they say they want to become russian. ukraine in its allies, say the votes are nothing more than a pretext for expansion. there are also fears that russia would try to press men in the regions into military service to fight against keeps forces. ukraine's president says he's not going to let that happen. each other all was provo. this further attempt to annex ukrainian territory means there is nothing more to talk
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about with the president of russia. i shall audit fishy leveled in with you. we will act to protect our people in the henderson region in this episode. asia region in don bass, in the currently occupied areas of the heart of cape region and in crimea. if campbell rushes annexation of crimea, and 2014, was preceded by a referendum, much like the one that just ended unconstitutional, announced mir days before voting began and carried out in a war zone. in the presence of armed soldiers, most countries don't recognize russian control of crimea. western allies say the same will apply to the 4 regions where the latest sham referendums took place. here, at the u. n, the u. s. promised to make russia pay if it tries a repeat of crimea, the united states will never recognise any territory. russia attempts to seize or allegedly annex as anything other than part of ukraine. we reject russia's
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actions unequivocally. and we will continue to work with our allies, partners and like minded to impose cost on russia and to provide historic amounts of support for ukraine. but international condemnation hasn't stopped moscow's ambitions and ukraine. vladimir putin has even threatened to use nuclear weapons to defend territory. he claims his part of russia at this point, only he knows where that imaginary border lies. spring in money duma law. here she is, the director of the wider europe program of the european council on foreign relations . thanks for being with us. so what do you make of these so called referendums, are they in any way valid? i don't think he can make a lot of the voting itself. i mean these referendums shouldn't have taken place in the 1st place. and
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a lot of the people from this region has left russia controlled only part of these regions. and if any voting would take place on ukrainian soil, it should be a, according to ukranian laws. so i think we can fairly consider the reverend and arnelle and lloyd's m. why does russia feel the need to organize such a pseudo referendums? at this point, i think there are 2 important things to have in mind. the 1st one is a, the relationship to the local population and forth from these people to tell they are part of russia. now, the 2nd thought is, of course, a sort of deterrence effort in a political way, seeing these territories on our part of russia is supposed to raise the stakes or further ukrainian offensive to sort of intimidate western partners of ukraine. right?
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so the consequences of these ballot bowery are not are clearly real. what happens now when ukrainian forces attack, what russia considered to be its territory? say in the next few days, we will see the m, m setting and displaying all these territories, joining the russian federation. what consequences this will have in the war is less clear and hooting? has mentioned that any attempt by ukraine to re take control of these territories would have enormous consequences. he'll he mention possible use of nuclear weapons . and i'm not sure. well, i think the russians can be pretty sure that the ukrainians will try to re take control of these territories. the signal is rather to western partners of ukraine and to tell them don't support ukraine further and push put pressure on ukraine to
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go for a negotiation now. right. um, but you, you mention, sorry, are you mentioned the nuclear option? this is something that many people are deeply concerned about. do you think that russian president vladimir putin would actually use nuclear weapons in response to an attack on what he might consider to be russian territory? this is fairly disproportionate. i mean, the russian nuclear duct tree mentions the use of nuclear weapons in cases off, existential threats for the russian federation itself. um, i don't think i am an infringement on um, russian territorial integrity even. and even more so, if this territory was ukrainian territory and is still considered as ukrainian territory by ukraine, i don't think this can lead to a nuclear escalation, but you can't take, these are the sort of threats to lightly. i mean,
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if he repeatedly sent, or he might use nuclear weapons and this should be considered seriously. oh, what impact, if any, do you think annexation will have on the willingness of ukraine's our lives to provide it with further military support? and i very much hope that it has little impact because we can't, let's russia decide what it's territory is, am, and what is ukrainian territory. and so i think we need to further support ukraine and, and to further make the point that's of territorial integrity. has a very concrete meaning. oh, yeah. marie de malone from the european council on foreign relations. thank you very much for talking with us. thank you. well,
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rushes military has called up over 300000 reserve soldiers for duty in his war against ukraine, but almost 2 thirds. as many people have fled, the country countries bordering russia report almost 200000 russian nationals, herbs crossed since the mobilization was declared. others are staying and protesting, despite the risk. ah, no to warn the shout. hundreds of demonstrators stick to the streets of moscow to protest hooton's mobilization. authorities arrested many of them. no longer among them was mikhail, a 29 year old musician and bought gusto. he thought he says he spent 6 hours in custody with lou yearning which the police tried to force him to sign a draft notice. yeah, but a shoulder to walk on. i was taken into another room, though a numerous man, the 2 of police officers,
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another 2 were in plain clothes from him. they locked the door from the inside and began telling me that i was nobody, the humiliated me shove me around and even kicked me off. i had to endure it all in the end i made out without signing anything. now i'll just have to wait and see what happens. are all only what baccha as a dash covington dash, since his detention make has been seeing that the friend he hardly goes out to white police. he could be called up for the mobilization because he has completed his military service. but he says he has been against the war from the very beginning, yet will call you all there is no way that i will be drafted. that is all. i would rather go to a penal colony, then go to warn you shall angle, just as military has reportedly suffered heavy losses in ukraine, moscow hoops fresh, truthful change?
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it's watch, jones. officially 300000 expedient. soldiers have been called up. but critic fate. the draft is considerably more universal and more arbitrary, particularly, and provincial regions. men without basic military training alfredo being sent to fight like this warehouse worker or his galoshes. they say to us just go are but they don't care whether we come back some day. we're just a cannon fodder. the goal of this mobilization is to stock up on cannon fodder and wind with quantity since the quality isn't there? your audience thought cost me kyle in moscow says he doesn't want to flee abroad even if it's risky. staying in russia theater will go of age of the opera. i can sensing something inside me a sense that i don't like what's going on here. and i want to defend myself, or i think there's still hopefully as well. but if no one stays in russia
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by then, no one can change anything. i think i was going thought it was marginal taylor is dealt. mikhail wants to continue teaching to the streets to protest against buttons one, even if he and his fellow demonstrators could be up to 15 years behind laws for doing so. european union leaders say sabotage is responsible for leaks on the north stream pipelines that are sending plumes of gas into the baltic sea scientists recorded under c explosions around the lines connecting russia and germany. though there are no claims of responsibility. poland says the leaks marked an escalation in the war on ukraine. kremlin spokesman said it would be stupid in absurd to blame russia for the attack fuel spilling out into the baltic sea. after while the youth top diplomat, joseph burrell. say's is a likely ox of sabotaged. b 2 at node stream pipelines linked russia and germany.
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3 red dots, monk, the places where the leaks were detected. even though the pipelines are not currently delivering rushing gas to europe. they're still full of fuel. up to 100000000 cubic meters of gas is spewing from the pipelines every hour. with no way of closing them, the leagues could continue until the pipes are empty. european leaders say they're fairly certain about the calls of the leaks. it sounds good. we have swedish intelligence, but we also have received information from denmark. and based on this, we concluded that this is probably a deliberate act. it is probably a case, a sabotage, the acetone landfill gall met sabotage. the kremlin has also suggested foul play. she just needs a scrutiny of them, no ups and can be ruled out right now. it's clear that there is damage to the
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pipeline, so we can't exclude any version of events regarding the reason for this young man to before the results of the official investigation. we're doing these creatures which brokerage over in the e. u has vod retaliation for any attack on the energy network. the leaks are expected to last for at least in the week. and only then can investigations begin or more enjoy now by commander tor even lumen he is a researcher and senior lecturer at the royal norwegian navy academy in bag. and thanks for being with us. um, what's the evidence? first of all, indicating that these pipeline leaks were actually caused by sabotaged fuel the distance between the leaks and the explosion is near the end in the pipeline. and so on. both indicates that this is not
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a accident. this is something which was blind and, and conducted by humans in order to destruct the dose black lance. now this happened in the baltic sea, not far from the island of bon home, is quite a bit of traffic out there, maritime traffic. how difficult would it be to carry out such attacks in those locations without being detected? actually fairly easy. a said those they supposed to could have been placed weeks and months even years beforehand and a ship couldn't just stopped over the new position and maybe 3 months ago and sent out i yeah, the most overrated. we couldn't mean a submarine or something. place those expose it and left. so later they could designate the dose closes by breakthrough signal or by timing or on the order means . so it's fairly easy to conduct such an operation. is there any indication as to
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who might be behind the attacks if that's what they were? i would not say indications, but it's highly likely, in my opinion, that it's russia and basically for 2 reasons. one as that is a way to, to make sure that they kind of be pressured in a way to deliver gas to north stream, to germany. again, they have obligations, legal obligations to provide yes. they have no stop providing that gas to 1st say, and that's just to help us to delay in maintenance office on to eventually pump systems down from august on with reference to maintenance of the gas lines. and now they have been destroyed, so they cannot deliver it, which makes them look innocent. but still they are behind it, as they don't say that they are using energy as a weapon,
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but they are really doing it. and everyone knows. but as long as they don't say it disguise is what they are actually doing when they also the or the other part of it is the a great paula competition and did great strategic my point though it last, russia only had to really pull up a tooth to influence it and it was negotiation position versus the west to grant and so on. at the dos off and it's paula which hub fade to a large degree. and it's energy. sorry. and but i think it's yeah, sorry, sorry. yeah, just we don't have that much time. i just wanted to ask you how investigators will go about determining what happened to those pipelines and how long do you think that might take it's very hard to say that obviously they will do an investigation much like the police are doing when they have a bump or something on shore,
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and they will try to find the remnants of explosives so and the order sign of what's going on don't dare and conduct an investigation. it probably now is to actually get access consistently that the state, a very dangerous operation on area with all the gas coming out. it's got this, daniel, will humans as ships can actually sink if a day get gas in the water mass between been benefit there too. and there was a last day of explosion 1st that has to isolated the incident. stop the gas leak and down to come. don't go down and start investigating and proper ok. dangerous complex situation commander tor, even storming of the royal norwegian naval academy. thanks for talking with us. no problem. iran has seen
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a wave of protests over the last couple of weeks. the death of 22 year old mother armine, i in police custody, sparked out cry across the country. demonstrations have been met with violent response of, from authorities, according to the also based around human rights group, at least 76 people have died in the crackdowns. it's a cause of concern for iranians. round the world. d. w. sports visited to iranian professional athletes who now live here in germany. they're worried about relatives participating in the protests. ah, miran is rebelling, but some iranians are stuck on the side lines. wormshire mercer, it could have been me and massa me needs place with them. but i've had similar experiences in iran when i went the practice at the university madonna's the morality police miss treated me in the same way i missed what
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a man parish if i shady and costs for our metty poor job. our professional taekwondo athletes originally from iran, they fled the regime 3 years ago. the internet is what connects them to family and friends, but the regime blacked out internet connections last week. now, messages don't reach home. i'll mahoney is bought in a somewhat southern bahama when i was lost in touch with my sister. she told me that my family took to the streets this fighting for freedom. the police beat up my sister, her hands were bleeding. i'm so worried for a shady, one second place in taekwondo at the 2010 asian games. but now she and partner made the point to john are so consumed by any news that slips out of iran. that not even sports takes their mind off of things. in berlin, for shady trains kids in taekwondo, but doesn't want to upset them, said the little man. i just told the kids to practice that
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a lot is happening in iran. i didn't want to go into details to get some letters from wasn't what remains for them are demonstrations, the refugees join in germany and social media. oh man, photo there on found that my follow is on just from a wrong think there international. i'm glad that for the 1st time the world is hearing app please. the freedom which holl, i'm kid quillen doing. yeah, i have anymore. so the more that is because for them, the fight against the regime in iran just went into another round bow to vietnam, or typhoon nor rule has made a landfall, bringing heavy rains and winds of over a 100 kilometers an hour. airport schools and offices are closed and hundreds of thousands have been evacuated. typhoon has since been downgraded to a tropical storm, but residents are being warned to stay alert due to lands lies in flooding, nor ru, hit vietnam. after slamming into the philippines earlier this week. join now by
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michelle tucker ski, a journalist based in hope you've been city vietnam. tell us what's the situation like there right now here at home and city were well south of where the storms impact was and we've had wind and rain today, but up at central vietnam or it made landfall appears. coastal cities were spared the worst and hours for landfall. there were concerns that this could be, could have been significantly stronger than it was landfall. but we're still waiting on damage reports from the mountain. this region, once you get away from the coast in central vietnam, that's very rugged, lot of remote communities in the mountains. and this is where the dangers of land slides from heavy rain will be really, really prominent. we've already seen reports of the 2 main or south highway has been cut off by flood waters and certain areas about a 1000000 people work. i've been without electricity at various points, so no, no fatalities been reported, which is great news, but again,
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it'll probably be tomorrow once we start to hear from more of the mountain community that had potentially been cut off in some areas. ok, so transports and electricity disrupted. how have authorities been dealing with this situation? they've been really on the ball with this. i mean, since the storm trap will be strengthened on the other side of the philippines, this has been kind of all i hear about on the storm for the past 4 or 5 days. so authorities evacuated, people who needed to be evacuated station, military equipment and personnel, where they needed to be shut down airports well in advance and several different provinces. and we set up shelters and had teams is ready to restore power and distribute supplies. as soon as you conditions come down, you also called in a lot of fishing shit. well before the storm arrived as well. so the official response has been very proactive. typhoons or nothing new in vietnam, how to people are generally cope during the typhoon season. yes,
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certainly nothing new central coast, especially it usually gets hit by 5 or 6 every year or even more than that. but this one was only strong, but they, you know, that a lot of the houses, they're sort of sturdy, a lot of built of country. so we've seen a lot of damage and photos over the past day or 2 of how to get their roots blown off, things like that. but a lot of these, these things are pretty easily repaired. the other take shelter, you know, when, when ordered, and people kind of know what to do when these things make landfall. ok, michael, thank you very much. that was journalist michael to kosky there in hu, human city. thank you. meanwhile, and the other side of the globe, the u. s. state of florida is bracing for the impact of hurricane in forecasters say in has strengthened to an extremely dangerous category for storm, as it nears the peninsulas west coast, where millions of residents have been advised to evacuate their homes. hurricane in
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hit cuba late on tuesday, killing at least 2 people and knocking out electricity supply across the whole island. plunged into darkness in the wake of hurricane in cubans, in havana and all across the country were left without electricity. after the country's entire power grid collapse, following the category 3 storm western cuba took the brunt of the hurricane metre, with the storm, pounding the region for more than 5 hours. many residents had been left with next to nothing. okay, come on. how are we terrified to see what we have here? we don't even know what to do. everything. it's been shattered. look at the state of our meeting on the on it tobacco farms in the western, penner del rio region where much of the tobacco cuba as i conic an economically important cigars is produced. have been devastated. oh,
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it was disastrous. it's never been like this before. and sometimes hurricanes passed through here, but not of this magnitude. it destroyed the houses are tobacco drawing hurts off farms, the fruit trees, everything while cuba tries to repair the storms. damage here in florida, residents preparing for its arrival with the harkin expected to make landfall late . on wednesday, up to 3 meters of storm surge is expected leaving those near the coast, particularly vulnerable lima. hey nathan, is those i'm a can you imagine where 100 meters from the beach? we're trying to take precautions. bought damages, unavoidable. because a hurricane that comes out with such a force, what caused damage, but we're trying our best of luck was even u. s. president joe biden has declared a state of emergency in florida and some, 2 and
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a half 1000000 people are under evacuation orders. the government has prepared huge amounts of fuel of water meals and emergency personnel to try and mitigate what looks likely to be a full blown disaster. you're watching d. w news coming to you from berlin up next our business show made in germany looks at the impact of high energy prices across europe. i'm terry martin for me and all the team. thanks for watching. with
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