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be bought or done. so always using up to demand respect for walking women we talked to teenage moms about whole pregnancy changed their life and we meet a young, the median woman who escaped charles marriage. now we've got a few emotionally tough topics to tackle in today's show, but we'll start by meeting a 1000000 dancer. but our ibrahim, my, you guys, she is a bomb aqua best artist using artistic expressions, to speak out against gender inequality. this outstanding dancer has tom ta footprints internationally, but all mean bama or she has intensified the call for respect to women. i mean, my name is ibrahim my, again,

a for i am an artist. dancer, performa create an interpreter directory. i am currently with fossil down the theater run by me. the body is in her element. she's performing her solo on the streets of her home town. bummer! go in. and she dramatize as women struggle for recognition and he brought them in, you were minis coming to europe, many dresses, and i walk around in them. all of that doesn't mean i'm a whole that it's like, it doesn't mean that unfulfilled and she go or that i'm losing myself was to pick you up. no, no it is that i have principle. has siblings that i respect you for that it makes me lose

one self and that makes you respect me. it was in her performance be brought to use her skill as a dancer to fight against the simon of traditional female roles. i do. it's about a woman who is looking for work and is told shift shift you too beautiful for me to throw a bell. you don't need to walk to marry you, or you'll be my girlfriend or my mistress. and i'll take care of you on this one and i'll put you in a nice house and take care of you get a good wide. the boss has had similar experiences. patronized the simply being woman being taken for granted in her work. you did. there were times when i was just, i wanted to give up. i wanted to drop everything on but then, but it was something in me that doesn't want to keep up on the age. second. i know

that one day things will be better. carl is left and when women finally climbed higher and higher, i hope the men won't be resentful. because it does create a bit of jealousy. that's all, that's good, but that's not such a big deal. our normal, normal molly in society is still very much dominated by men, and there's a long way to go to reach equality. but just changing. and i think that as time goes by, things will change. and those who don't understand that they'll be the one who i the ah suddenly change may be uncomfortable for some, but as be butter says, if you don't understand the importance of equality,

you may be soon be the one to suffer for it. well, speaking changes in life, let's talk about teenage pregnancies and unprotected sex is the reason why young girls may find themselves unexpectedly pregnant. but there are numerous underlying reasons for these. and it is gemini and o our street debate tomb headed to window in namibia to find out more hello and welcome to another episode of the 77 percent. this week we are in fin took in a me be a most specifically in havana, the informal settlement that you see behind me. and it's because statistically low income countries are more likely to experience the problem of early pregnancy or teen pregnancy as compared to high income countries. and particularly in this area, you can imagine that it's a serious problem. and that's why we're here and we want to find out, why does this problem exist? what are the consequences and what can we do to put an end to it? who better to answer these questions for me,

then some nubians. and we're going to begin with by greece. she's actually looking very scared, right? up upper. but that's right. so by greece, you're a teen mom. and you made headlines, hey, namibia, because you actually got pregnant at the age of 14. can you tell me what happened? my parents had like a funeral of my grandmother in. they'd go like back and forth to the village. but then when they found out that i had a quick friend, it's when these that is asking me christians, they did just that having sex in on of it. then i told him that yes, i've had sex in. i didn't get my period for so long in all of it. what was going through your minds? okay. am i was there just actually time where was depressed in i was to amazed course at school a view week i'll to kind of thought about like having abortions in order for it. so the thought crossed your mind, but you locked it against it. an old was your boyfriend at the time by the late 21 . 1921. so you were a 14 year old dating a 21 year old. but you're back in school now. yeah,

i'm right. you haven't been able to come back to school. you're working in a touch up at the moment here. so did you have to drop out immediately? you got pregnant or what happened when i went to school until i was 8 months pregnant? and then like my what broke at school. your water broken, you ain school. yes. can you talk to me through that experience? i mean, that must have, i can't imagine where you in class where you own the flu playing were updating. yeah, we like no changing glasses most. did you also have an older boyfriend here? i was having an older brother and he was like 25. but that is an i took all my boyfriend was like, there needs to support. he not all entries, those things. so your parents were not in a position to do this for you, i imagine. yes. but then the guy was even denying when i told him that i'm pregnant and those who as it man says that them he except at the child. yeah. because who info at the any. let's come to immaculate who's on this site. she's a senior research fellow. what did the figures say to in his pregnancy is indeed

a serious concern. lynn, i'm been government have what we call the a education monitoring information systems. a significant number of the learners that are not coming big. i actually do to pregnancy early in there to concede around 40 percent 40, but langston's while learners are not returning to school. wow. ok. i want to speak to where is he west yet he is. why is the rate of teen pregnancy so high? a lot of kids are being approached by adults or bit may be bigger boys here. so this is also to get a fresh fruit. well, what do you mean? a fresh fruit? fresh fruit is like a limousine. lisa, i'm proud of myself because i've been breaking maybe 15 gills of vigil or something like that. so it's for us, it's a joke or maybe so it's a fun thing. oh ok. let's hear from frieda. what are some of the stories that you've heard from the people you're working with? most girls that usually, um, let me say fall pregnant or the stories that i've met are people from traditional aspects. and traditionally, you're taught to not sort of really refuse when

a men approaches you, because this means older than you are firstly that other person is a perpetrator. it's either a puts you had 6 and, and a child that's raped and i personally feel like their bodies are really not fit at 14, your body's not for to k to term. you should be given the option of know if you want to have an a but not even if you want to, you should have an abortion, because very much you're young. but isn't it? what, what does that countries constitution say about the legality or illegality of abortions? here only under 3 dishes, if i'm speaking under correction, 4 conditions, yes. contextually under the law, abortion is legal. so it, but legal only under verify considered a very distinctive conditions outside of that it's criminalized. which means that if you do go for becto abortion you will be arrested when you'd be fined $5000.00 or 5. he has imprisonment or both. so i'm guessing, immaculate that given what we've just heard, that the number of unsafe abortions is probably on the rise just as tim pregnancies are. yes, we hear

a stories of women. oh young girls who blit them for themselves almost to death. it is a, it is really our and the store is the issue of finding a way to liberalize abortion in namibia is a metal witness. the urgency of all the attention, okay. that that, that, that we need to put, i'm curious to hear from simpson, what his views are. we have the ladies there who are saying that abortion should definitely be an option on the table, particularly for serious the young mothers. the chat is very clear and is it forbids it? is there no middle ground whatsoever? i don't think we as human beings have the right. ah, to take life. we should support the mother in terms of going through this process. okay, frida, you had something to say to me earlier, please go ahead. women should be given the choice because um simpson said we should lead women k to tim. but do we actually asked these women? what emotionally? what have you gone through carrying this baby to tell you as an important question,

which i want to asked by grace the emotional toll that he takes on you to carry a baby when you're 14 and not really being ready to. how was that emotionally? what frida was talking about, sometimes i felt like i don't wanna go to school in. yeah, i'll go to church when to be honestly currently, since i gave birth, i did not really go pick to church because i felt like it was like a shame to the people. like yeah, they'd maybe look at mina, we're flick ice f seemed or tell me about you, alexis, you give us a give my friends of it should have been supportive in the um, offer to the hyatt in okay, immaculate. obviously not everybody will have the luxury of having their parents get a nanny for them, or the ability to even go back to school. so what are some of the long term consequences of teen pregnancies? totaled within the community is total dropout for majority of youngers, because we get caught into that system where the pac not just want nothing to do with the pregnancy. and parents also have

a tendency to continue ostracizing them by putting punitive measures on this youngers. so school drop out, this is really for most girls, the, the owner. and i also read that incidentally, people who are teen mothers are more likely to reach children, hold themselves, become teen perez. i'm. so let's now look at the solutions because this is a problem that is faced surely around the globe, but particularly in africa. what do we do? so that, and in the next 1020 years, we don't have another 10. 20000 by grace's, i personally say, leslie, grave abortion. but if you don't of what i bought it, it's fine. you could, you don't have to, but give other people the choice to make that what? all right, fantastic, immaculate, very quickly, please. the worst case scenarios where pregnancy takes place because of rape or incest, but then they're also cases way where we really need to bring big the joy, the fun, the beauty of sex back into the platform. so that like that, and along with the stigma ties bring it back to the those youngsters who wants to

engage sexually can, can apply their minds and, and know that i know whatever bit is there to, to know. and frank, okay, are we're just wrapping up this debate and i want to hear from the 2 ladies here. i would prefer that girls pick contraceptives. yeah, it all can. but sometimes in the contraceptives out of stock, that's even one thing always is not fair when you go full up, it's not vessel. thank you. i like that. like race. i'm that thing she'd fall pregnant. if you do in the fall spring creek pregnant, it's at the end of the world. hey i, i really like that. that's actually a really positive note to end on. it's not the end of the world if you do become a t mother. but most importantly, going back to what people will see, education is key and making sure that these conversations are happening out in the open as usual. thank you so much for watching. ah, and many thanks. it is. and if you live in a community with similar challenges,

what would be your solutions if you want to watch a longer version of the diabetes up for you. and it's on our youtube channel, a d, w, the 77 percent, and a make sure you comment on how that. and now we've heard about the 2 young months and their experiences and how about the young duds. and this reminds me personally of 2 friends whom i won't mention their names. now the day these 2 dudes received the news that they had impregnated their girlfriend. i'm telling you the un ease uncertainty and fear was huge. how did they end up? that's a story for another day. for now are gods of mute. reporter sylvia. a jumble. caught up with a tin dud in nairobi and here is what she learned a lot has been say, the about teenage mothers, but there is a forgotten lot deemed as most of these young men i've sent my community and feel

neglected. my name is even a ruby and on god of today focus or i'm was his is that they have been through identified the whole at the end of 17 with us at the high school see touch when he was in great 11. she was a grade below him, so he used to help her with her homework. their parents were used to sing them together, but you know, we are human being. so i had feelings she had feeling. but nobody has ever told each other whether they're in love or not. but it just came it saddened like that. i just found myself in her, in a relationship almost and he'll sit tight, started having sex. and she felt pret glance, when i was worried, because you know, she was a school girl, i was a schoolboy, so we were both climbing and it just affected i do care, sean. and what did you think? i did you think of a boy son?

actually that never came in my mind, cause though i have been raised, people do respect life in our community. so it was difficult for me to advise her to i bought it and go to the next small as in. what did you do next? okay, since i was afraid because her parents were harsh, it forced me to move from dabilla to another town whereby i had to go for missing for some few weeks. and some days before i came back after this story hadn't been sorted out. but an almost done, he was arrested, it's illegal for children in kenya and get new sexual acts. however, such a 1st as involving maintenance are often handled differently to those involving adults under a system called conversion. the law usually a place to tunes who engage in consensual sex. the chief decided and advised me not to know to drop out of school,

and he advised me to be attending to in this school. he turned every day. so he called my parent who is my dad, and he told him that is the one will be responsible for my child and the gun. and that's where i had the freedom to go back to school today. but despite that, he's that hasn't offered the support to me did. i'm was, has not been forced to take on the responsibility of an adult to support his new family. the girl is at the moment out of school and i've already given birth to a baby. boy, i'm sometimes have this much of a taxi into met. and since this walk, i'm doing it for survival cause for now i'm an independent boy and in fact i'm a dad. so i love my family, i love the girl. so i'm supposed to provide for them so i can just see that i can just get fitted cause they do depend on me. so i just want to wake up in the morning, come for my asshole, and do all these for my survival in because i love them and i must provide for them

. the hostility from the family is baby's mother is still there, but almost sees his kid to mend fences and to will there. well i find that personally impressive and good luck to amazon is of family. and we've got a couple of comments on this video in our facebook page and the prince. let me just check on that print. sir james from cumberland sees a great move, a step which even some a mature men can't still handle in our society to day. and we have dinner rica, laconia from kennedy says, in my village, i think he must be 19 or 20 years old with 6 kids plus him and his wife while dinner rica. that sounds like a lot of responsibility for boy. anybody let alone somebody that young. now in some cases tended pregnancy runs hand in hand with early marriage,

according to the united nations. there are currently about 650000000 women and garza round the world who are married before the age of 18. and if things don't change, there will be 170000000 more. gus? married by 2030. now the un wants to eliminate child marriage completely, but it seems so there is still going to be a long way to go. now in namibia, almost one. in 5 gast experiences a child marriage, we went to coven regionally, north eastern ami, be aware of the highest number of child marriages occur and caught up with a young woman who told us a story much. he called a village in north east namibia the places home to heal them, a footer. she was raised by her grandma, along with 6 other children with her family struggling to make ends meet her

grandma arranged for her to be married at just 16 into either my child's address, such as of mclean leather. when i came for august, holy mackerel, my smelled, my grandmother said that there's a mental guy who came to me and then as there which me and for lathan blay. and my grandmother said the man came and then he asked you, he asked me handing to mary, as they are, why did you allow them into how, why did you allow them to build the house? without hearing from me, hilda married a man 14 years older than herself, but she's far from alone. according to the namibian government, almost 20 percent of girls namibia, a forced into marriage, compared with only just of a 4 percent of boys. unsurprisingly, the marriage took a toll on her t life and education lim interest, or have her me. and then he never wanted him to be friends with my friends, any mom. and then after school i guess have to be at home and then working for him

all the time. it really felt like it's really difficult for me to do all those things. to me. it looked like and spanish meant a punishment. but even traditionalists and hilton village are starting to acknowledge and slowly unravel because of schooler. i fades in a good child marriage even though it's their school. but we can make means that they one sees in this cool. she can also come for a 1st period, initiation, then back to school. so attitudes are changing, but in her marriage, hilda was determined to make her own choices. however, to have children with me, but i even saw myself very young to have children at that age. and, and the regular do that, i'd be out, he has to go to the clinic and get injured. then, for feller planning mad gwinnett,

when i went to the clinic, i had the mature that he should not know, but it with her husband, frustrated by her inability to get pregnant hilda's marriage became even more strained. the men nevada, stayed there, glen, and denied the way i decided to leave the guy is he asked forsakes. and then i said, no, i'm on my bed. and then they gave love to me. so i really got angry. i bet my things when i moved to my grandmother's house, the ill fated marriage caused hilda to fall behind in her education. but now at 21, she's back on track to finish secondary school. and while being bad, and she would that a member of the men bad, bad giving dead gal dental that mendoza had barons that sent him to school and never implemented that face and began somebody because he is better in st. him to school hilda isn't sure if she wants to get married again or have children. but one thing's for sure. next time it will be her choice.

and this story illustrates how ali marriage can indeed disrupt her childhood. and in my opinion, marriage should actually be a possible choice. and on a lighter nor to talking about marriage, her view not as a growing social media craze about wedding dances. it's almost like a competition between couples. about 2 can lay down the best dance routines and well, the dance trend as also he to gund are. so let's see which move. so trending there . it's becoming more and more popular at wedding this days after the chat ceremony and the vows the bride and groom entertained their guests with choreographed dance moves in uganda. the man behind the dance craze is alan. we'll have what flounder of jew. so why to dance creations? a local town for more yoke wait. when a great al room wanted attainment at a wedding, what they would usually do is

a cigar to hire traditional group or musician, nor an artist. so that is when the idea came to me the, how about can we have more attainment form? a brighter room on the android. and then teaches the couples trending down to move from around the continent. 1112121 . that was a more into what is printing now. then with the printing mode you have are, you know, them a piano. yeah. and then we, oh, i saw mr. you applied a month with a, with a whole year and then oh, really wanted something planned and enjoyable. glad. i like music here for the damn saying, hey, so we figured we could join them, you know,

from a whole enter a bridesmaid damn thing. and it brings that dancing mood and clearly tells you weddings are becoming so creative these days. and they seem to be a big business. and that's are up for to day. you can see more or for content or join in the conversations. and you know what to do to subscribe to our youtube channel or instagram, comment, or drop us a line via email 277 at d, w dot com. we are ending this week. sure. with nigerian artist or yes, tom, believe it or not, she is on the main team. and that is it from me? my name is the dispatcher. thank you for a

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