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starts october 8th on d, w y o. well famous south exhibition with wax that caused a scandal. alonzo, among them we saw these anti semitic trash and to be honest, it made me ashamed of my country. i miss miss from ireland for the heated to the mines for the jewish community. it's traumatic to see that something like this as possible. again, the saw it was v, the nuclear is conveyed us via christmas, or is this really too much for us to bear us if we left it hanging and cancel it, or would it completely negate the last 70 years germany has been confronting? it's not true, paul intellect, i would at least like to ask, is questioned in the document of 15 ames to show the perspective of former colonial countries. missing singly,

the public debates became focused on exhibits that could be interpreted as anti semitic. the coma does that solution or i'm the document or is ultimately the just a symptom of the increasingly skewed staying to bomb media landscape issue flor it was well above all and we're actively seeks out anti semitism all over the place and that this was the activity thought the local mental, the documentary was made into a kind of proxy war in which the german public discussed itself and argued about itself. witten had a document, thoughts hike wednesday with a document showed us a quote from the perspective in particular vehicle formerly colonized countries and their trauma with us in europe as former colonial powers on mine. idle. and it's my impression that we have not adequately seized the opportunity, not by a long way for this debate, which has been stifled in the anti semitism debate into autism. it is mostly butter

. so how did we get to this point? and how could things escalate? so much ah, what, what i see here is the final debacle in an art exhibition that was dogged by scandal . it's an edited compilation of old pro palestinian films. so this is mostly tokyo, real film festival, is the name of the work by the palestinian collective subversive film. the panel of experts set up after repeated antisemitism, accusations cooled on the screenings to be halted immediately. they said they were anti semitic propaganda. films that should only be shown within a critical framework easily if a dot on the wall is,

is defined as being of fascist state eyes. and israel is accused of committing genocide against the palestinians that together this is a conflation with national socialism. but perhaps even more dramatic in this film compilation is the extremely one sided representation and the hatred of israel. and also the glorification of terror and violence. ireland often glory concealed from talent, divide the experts criticized document 15 as a whole. they said those in charge had permitted the creation of an atmosphere that was anti zionist, anti semitic, and anti israel. the curators of the exhibition, the indonesian collective ruin, grouper and many artists responded with an open letter. they said that they felt reprimanded uncensored in this german debate and ultimately thrown under the bus news this very, ah, since early stick,

another 30 instructor didn't sort of like install in this whole a conversation. that's what we actually really, really having a problem with this dispute had risen to boiling point, and it had become extremely polarized the document 15 was intended to stand for something else entirely. the aim was to try out a very different global perspective, one emancipated from capitalist structures, including the art market. the curatorial collective ruined group are promoted the principles of sharing collaboration and sustainability embracing a snowball principal in which invited guests in turn invited other artists. at least 1500 different artists and groups but mumps before the opening,

the emphatically egalitarian atmosphere was already being obscured by another topic . the problem of fig until the problem started very early on in mid january. us even so you said was a growing wave of criticism that the choice of artists was totally imbalanced. for lauder one place given to him in dallas, in collectives close to the b. d asked movement to irma, which calls for a boycott of israel. and therefore the whole api is ready, people were in a clear majority because sometimes while there was not a single jewish artist from the region couldn't answer you, edition couldn't slow kind of good slogan ost is looking after a document, doesn't jamie public. there are, by the way, jewish artist is taking part and represented in the documentary and israeli artists to what they say. they do not want to address the public in this capacity because they do not want to be co opted by this debate. and for you, the de butter stay involved in spring, the central council of the jews in germany became concerned that the exhibition

might include anti semitic images and events. it proposed that a panel of experts should look at the works of art prior to the document. his opening is kidney humor, and the casino spoof this is not about some test, a political convictions, slimy, but that is not acceptable of it. in particular, where art is concerned and get bashed a and cons. oh dear, it is about ensuring that there is no place for antisemitism directed at israel in the art displayed or in the documentary accompanying program at his most kindly la plots. i named off a blog called the castle alliance against anti semitism, was the 1st to voice, suspicion that some curators and artists, including the palestinian. yes and holly could be associated with the boy caught divest and sanctions movement. b d s. it's also also alleged the advisory board and selection committee contained anti israeli activists. the blog is renowned for its strident criticism of islam.

in january, it accused highly of making anti semitic comments and said the cultural center where his artist group, the question of funding meet, was named after an arab nationalist who supported the nazis. their accusations were counted in some quarters, but suspicions continued to resonate in discussions in german national media. when that is a full roofer, people accepted these accusations without researching that warner without approaching the artist was involved with grinsley. let alone ruin grew found directly linked by that it ultimately led to positions, probably becoming entrenched on both sides as soon, unprofessional gardens items which for health and accusations and entrenched positions even before the documentary had got under way. then director general

repeatedly defended the curator's v. as in kind 9, b, d, as we do not see any bd as influence in this document or this here and is, and we haven't seen any anti semitic artistic stances or statements in this context up to now on text his lung gazande that some of the curators were strident critics of israel and cigna trees of a letter, a apartheid. for example, it classified israel as an apartheid regime of the little for part that is a letter against apartheid is clearly auntie is raynichol. it's very one sided, the only taking the side of the palestinians in the entire conflict. in particular, who in the conflict of may 2021, these letters in these railings are seen solias perpetrators. nevertheless, this depiction is still not anti semitism. it is for now a distorted image of the middle east conflict of the curators felt misunderstood

victims of prejudice and racial discrimination. they plans to stage a series of discussions on racism as well as anti semitism. but the proposed podium discussions were criticized by the central council of the jews in germany. it's president yoseph schuster wrote to the minister of state of a coach at claudia holt saying that concerned jewish figures and the council had been excluded. participants began to pull out on the documentary, ultimately canceled the talks. the curators wrote an open letter criticising the collapse of the plans, talks as a break down in the gym and discourse on anti semitism and racism. but they avoided speaking to the media directly. he couldn't sla, obviously, from very early on, the artist felt that they had been put in a corner and did not get the impression that people were really talking or listening to them. and that placed a strain on them in particular because

a lot of what was said can also be understood as racist talk would. oh it's my sister's kristian. kun critics feared that anti semitism was getting a platform on germans soil. those criticized felt they were the targets of discrimination. their office was plastered with racist slogans. this to ation escalated. there was a break in the exhibition rooms of the palestinian group at the car. it was with smeared with graffiti activists projected images onto exhibition buildings. drawing parallels with the nazi era before the document had opened its doors, the climate had become completely toxic. and then the dispute exploded with the 1st glimpses of the exhibition in the series of paintings, cold guernica garza was extremely controversial. while some sort has admissible criticism of israeli attacks on garza, for others,

it was openly anti semitic to other historically, it is an absolute crime to acquaint the destruction and deny elation of guernica in the past country and the planned and elation of the entire basque people by franko and hitler, with the problems in the gaza strip. these problem, i think, in admissible in terms of our history. so for history, it's a fairly welcome political propaganda, and it is on the line of political danica garza is by mohammed l. y tree. it combines motifs from old masters with images of war. he's a member of the garza based as he car art group and was invited by the palestinian collective the question of funding. the artist's origin should also be considered when deciding whether this series is anti semitic. according to anti semitism expert may on men to resolve and construct,

we should assess and artwork made by palestinian people who live in garza and the very differently than one created elsewhere in the wow. and this of the, of course, even if this work about is very one sided, it very clearly comes from somewhere very specific. and the visit has noticed it was created by people who live under occupation or in the case of gaza under can fineman square in an enduring complex, our half an art is borne out of this suffering. and this pay off the dish, mouths for the sins eoc winced before august, 8th, his name, and the aunt does he? the question is, should we adopt different standards in different countries and different cultures when it comes to anti semitism in some i've been with us and i have a very clear opinion on that. my, the mind on anti semitism is something that can be objected by a celtic t. v bar. this very divergent assessment of this palestinian series of artworks shows how differently people can think about these issues.

the blan demarco gazillion guernica garza form hum on the whole. i think mit i zation of mohammed al how arteries for serious guernica garza as an anti semitic. it was wrong from the outset. good guernica game. miley count. house 1937 paintings . guernica has become a universal anti war symbol. like them harmless sandal jungle is artists as of use the motif or paraphrased the paintings without any one contemplating that they could be making a reference to the nazi aaron or drawing a nazi comparison. oh so so, so in is for glacial, bethesda, that just, it only happened here in germany's endorsement gusher. and it is the result of complete ignorance towards modern art history. go on scalable. also, we're down and concentration. many critics, including ones from outside germany,

initially reviewed the art which was mainly from the global south in positive terms . there was also interest in an art exhibition that drew on the idea of solidarity and community the artwork, people's justice, was not hung in time for the press preview. the document a later said that the arrival of the huge banner in castle had been delay. and the banner damaged, the organizers said, it could only be displayed once it had been repaired. the image created by the indonesian collective tiring party with 2 motifs that can be interpreted as anti semitic. unleashed a huge scandal to spun at people's justice is still an am after the banner people's justice is akin to the caricature and the nazi newspaper dash drama,

and pfizer from boston. and it represents jews in a way that we can not have imagined happening in germany. in the year 2022 had been foster to addiction like this could be displayed in the middle of a ta marketplace in this way, and i start 0 august as well and kind of diesel robertson in his picture. you can immediately see 2 anti semitic images unfurnished, and one is a dehumanized stereotype of a jewish banker. it's an all and we point it is bloodshot, eyes, animal fangs, at a bowler, hat with as asked. insignia as a swollen one. he morons. of that figure is a demon controlling him, you could say. and in front of that, the depiction of a ma side agent with a picks head and the star of david on a red neck achieve. it has demonic connotations. in indonesian color iconography mcguffey evelyn, them one is theaters. it unleashed a wave of indignation, but those responsible didn't respond immediately. in a statement, the documented director general and the executive board said all those involved

regretted the lines had been crossed and feelings, haute and quote. we also expressly apologized that anti semitic images when not identified before the works hanging and quote, ah, the banner was covered over, but that didn't quell the indignation. a day later, the decision came to take it down, ruin. groupon, on the ot is collective tiring party offered explanations. over the following days, they apologized. tiring party said they recognized that the imagery had quote, taken on a specific meaning in germany's historical context. we were sought because since the fighting by the beginning of our existence, we try our best to respect all people. we know it was painted there, but the didn't knock is that when we

displayed here. so because 1st because it was 20 years ago. second. because there are so many figures in that banners with it by 12 me. those been odd term because perhaps we we've seen it to do many times. in fact, the 20 year old work created by the collective fema ties, the horrors of the su hearty regime. that ruled over indonesia for decades. it was responsible for the murders of hundreds of thousands of alleged communists. the dictators who hot i was propped up by western politicians like helmet cold and western intelligence agencies like the cia and gemini foreign intelligence service

to be on d dead. jamar o. 2 thought we could have such a towering party auto code. we are very sorry that we supported this dictatorship back then, which began with dreadful massacres almost more because not wonderful, that would have been an appropriate response among equals, after towering potties apology for the picture went on toddling party from the diesels. we may be towering hardy, literally means teeth of the rice plants. the group was formed by art students in the 19 ninety's in protest against the su hotter regime. as a left wing collective opposed to capitalism and military violence, they were classified as enemies of the state. their banners also featured in the street protests that ultimately ousted su harter in 1998. since then, they have been an established part of indonesia cultural landscape. clue towering hardy say that very few journalists,

all politicians, had shown any real interest in that perspective. this is not about what dialogue, after all, because there wasn't many this now about exchange ideas. this, this is last about understanding is, are the difference. it is more about breaking babu that you couldn't even talk about that's what make us even more. st tiring party said they could no longer recollect to painted which figures back then people disagreed about whether the ma sad figures constituted an anti semitic stereotype. i'll visit the go on that because all of

these figures represented secret service agents of western providential, sylvania and the ma side figure was only one of them either the phone and that's why i would not now judge it to be anti semitic. it's us anticipate ish, i should often valley. indeed, the pig symbolizes something different to tara pardons by telling body and has its own significance in indonesia and left wing circle dinner. the door to hot d. i'm which doesn't have anything to do with our view. austin. all the tradition of depicting jews as pe weiner, who nish, super hot here kind of a nice mission on to cb to so i don't regard this as an anti semitic image and but as a criticism of intelligence agencies wouldn't prophetic of the cookie. the historical background also justifies as criticism to see if at all the agencies named, including the israeli one were involved at the top of su, hardtop was very brutal regime hydrogen. the criticism is legitimate to you and i

don't regard it as anti semitic as the figure doesn't use any stereotypes in the sense of the boss with the side locks or hooked noses or such like i just finished up distributing the central council of the jews in germany by contrast, said the pitch his symbolism spoke for itself. yet more than all these elementary event here precisely, these elements were used ultimately to criticize massage and by the apparently, at least as with other vices. but it doesn't use the israeli flag for example. but the star of david hasn't caught up, so there's a clear reference to jews, and it is a very intentional one. and for the upsized machine. ah, the document 15 had turned into a controversy. the people who had been warning of anti semitism for months, felt vindicated. even before the banners discovery, germany's biggest newspaper had denounced. it is shameful. another major news

portal later dubbed it the anti semitic 15. the german chancellor said he would not be attending the pressure on minister of state for culture. claudia holt was growing castles, mac lucien gazelle ha, and the state of hesse's coach, him minister, anger ladon too. but apart from the curator's apology is responsible just traded blame claudia, who said she felt deceived, adding that for months she'd been assured that there would be no kind of anti semitism at the document. her subject is nick. every one has just passed the bogs guide. the supervisory board was not responsible for the city of castle and the state of hair, sir. not responsible di, the people who commissioned the curators not to be seen far and wide, and not responsible for unfortunately, the curators who wanted to adopt an entirely new curatorial concept and not

responsible either in the 12. i think that's a problem by a massive exhibition. like this needs clearly defined responsibilities and also curatorial responsibility. ok, nicola tools have fun talk to that went wrong. it didn't work and shorten it problems. it's all home wellness crew to the problem is also located in the ministry of state for contra just once again, that has to be addressed. linda smith and even the fall warnings people can't just react with surprising in the way some people are doing. music gets uneasy, rushed good. psych, tom loved one. allison, it's dusk from the outside. i don't think you can judge who made what mistake. i think that it was good that drew on group i as the artistic directors took on responsibility for the works of tearing party. and that they apologized jessie and jordan. tom said, man, a to me as aren't going in for fail course, i would have been possible to say in advance on that. yes, we must discuss the issue more clearly with the artisan martin come. but what i cannot do in advance, and i have always resisted that. i cannot act as

a sensor. kiner sings wolf warn him. that was all constitution guarantees artistic freedom. i said in terms of the works and their impact off kind of there cannot be pre censorship. i cannot install a committee in advance that tells the artist and so that's okay. thumbs up, that's not okay. the thumbs down until the disagreements continued. marathon mendel, the head of the and frank educational center in frankfort 1st offered to act as an advisor, but then withdrew that alpha. he said those responsible for the documentary when not willing to address the anti semitism scandal. in response to mendel's decision, the celebrated artist, he toe shanaiah, announced that she would withdraw her video installation. she said that she had lost faith in the management due to their treatment of the anti semitism scandal. she said, the exhibition makers had refused to accept mediation director

general sabina schulman initially rejected kohls for her to step down a name of mine, of, of cobb. if i'm exercising my role with all due responsibility. goldberg not before i still believe in document a 15 on, and i also believe that a captain should remain on board in heavy seas as capitan on board blabbed. but the political pressure became overwhelming. in mid july, sabina shall man step down from the helm of the international art exhibition. the cultural manager, alexander foreign hopes became the interim head. 2 days later, the world's biggest art exhibition has revealed yawning divisions. the document 15 was meant to bring about more understanding to bring the perspective of people from

former colonies into focus. instead, they feel as if they have been re colonized while others emphasize that lines have been crossed, that never should have been can we learn something from it nonetheless, eating some of us, we must talk myself included as i look back after time, as allows to schools and see it much more as a problem of discourse, the one that shows us a more underlying problem can, namely, it's 5 how to we in germany with german history though, look at israel and the middle east conflict regional israel, additional denials, gothic the debate to vote against clinton, the debate was clearly instrumental ised and turned into something that's now being called an updated version of the german historians debate of the 19 eighties and a conqueror. and ultimately, a contest is being opened up about remembering, remembering the showing and also the completely new demands that germany's colonial

history should also be remembered. as i said, this is a very rapidly developing discourse, and that's why it's also highly charged off the line of eyes up bringing different histories into dialogue with one another. how could that work? what does this documentary mean for future debates and exhibitions? consequence, all stockton, the butter. the consequence of the current debate should be that people once again engage critically with anti semitism in the field of art and culture and some cool tools and on the sets people should look at how we can keep art and culture free from antisemitism in the future. and what are the instruments and measures required to ensure about what the most normandy, the fil father listened. and on this all took of allies in each fin them. i find germany as a society, as a state and reliable, and surprisingly democratic, and still not at all extremist. to help me exclaim, is tish been when i say this a good and then the next thought stands to reason. i mean,

these debates should also function without all this stridency one, it isn't gone on it is against. if we have to break that down by saying we are all working together on the same project to salmon onto some sale, to preserve germany as a moderate non extremist country extend. and we didn't discuss every things come on this foundation. borden couldn't be it us. alice in who were descriptive ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah ah, ah, every journey is full of surprises. we've gone all out to give you some tips one day in the footsteps, all who rigby home. i'm in your northernmost county,

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