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it made me ashamed of my country. i miss miss from on land for the heated to the mines for the jewish community. it's traumatic to see that something like this as possible. again, to saw it was v, the nuclear is convert us via christmas or is this really too much for us to bear? does this if we left it hanging and cancel, what would it completely negate? the last 70 years germany has been confronting its not true tongue intellect. i would at least like to ask, is questioned in the document to 15 and to show the perspective of former colonial countries as increasingly the public debate became focused on exhibits that could be interpreted as anti semitic. ah, the coma does that. it is. no, i'm the document, it is ultimately just a symptom of the increasingly skewed state of our media landscape a sheaf lago. it was well above all ocean. we're actively seeks out anti semitism all over the place in the dismal se the octave sought the document. the document
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was made into a kind of proxy war in which the german public discussed itself and argued about itself. it and had a document on site wednesday with a document a showed us a word from the perspective in particular view, formerly colonized countries and their trauma with us in europe as former colonial powers. when my idol and it's my impression that we have not adequately seized the opportunity, not by a long way for this debate which has been stifled in the anti semitism debate in the audience image is more spick water. so how did we get to this point? and how could things escalate so much? ah, what, what i see here is the final debacle in an art exhibition that was dogged by scandal . it's an edited compilation of old pro palestinian films
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so systems tokyo reales film festival is the name of the work by the palestinian collective subversive film. the panel of experts set up after repeated anti semitism accusations called on the screenings to be halted immediately. they said they were anti semitic propaganda. films that should only be shown within a critical framework is clear if a dot on the wall of israel is defined as being a fascist state eyes. and israel is accused of committing genocide against the palestinians that together this is a conflation with national socialism. but perhaps even more dramatic in this film compilation is the extremely one sided representation and the hatred of israel high and also the glorification of terror and violence. i e, l, and often lloyd seal them from tell on divide. the experts criticized document
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15 as a whole. they said those in charge had permitted the creation of an atmosphere that was anti zionist, anti semitic, and anti israel. the curators of the exhibition the indonesian collective ruin, grouper and many artists responded with an open letter. they said that they felt reprimanded uncensored in this german debate and ultimately thrown under the bus news this very, ah, centrally stick. another 30 instructor to sort of like install in this whole a conversation. that's what we actually really, really having a problem with this dispute had risen to boiling point and it had become extremely polarized
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the document 15 was intended to stand for something else entirely. the aim was to try out a very different global perspective, one emancipated from capitalist structures, including the art market. the curatorial collective ruined group are promoted the principles of sharing collaboration and sustainability. embracing a snowball principal in which invited guests in turn invited other artists. at least 1500 different artists and groups but mumps before the opening, the emphatically egalitarian atmosphere was already being obscured by another topic . the problem of finger until the problem started very early on in mid january of it been switched to share was a growing wave of criticism that the choice of artists was totally imbalanced. so lauder wouldn't like giving to in dallas in, in collectives close to the b, d asked movement toma, which holds for a boycott of israel. and therefore,
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the whole of israel people were in a clear majority because i'm to is while there was not a single jewish artist from the region couldn't answer, can you edition couldn't slow kind of good slogan. all of these hooking up their document doesn't, jamie, but there are, by the way, jewish artist is taking part and represented in the documentary and israeli artists to what they say. they do not want to address the public in this capacity because they do not want to be co opted by this debate and for the the day but us to invite him. in spring, the central council of the jews in germany became concerned that the exhibition might include anti semitic images and events. it proposed that a panel of experts should look at the works of art prior to the document. his opening is get ne human and casino spoof this is not about some test or political convictions finally, but that is not acceptable of it. in particular, where art is concerned and get bashed a concurrence. oh dear,
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it is about ensuring that there is no place for anti semitism directed at israel in the art displayed or in the documentary accompanying program. at his most kindly lab plots i named off a blog called the castle alliance against anti semitism, was the 1st to voice, suspicion that some curators and artists, including the palestinian. yes and holly could be associated with the boy caught divest and sanctions movement. b, d. s. it's also also alleged the advisory board and selection committee contained anti israeli activists. the blog is renowned for its strident criticism of islam. in january, it accused highly of making anti semitic comments and said the cultural center where his artist group, the question of funding, meat was named after an arab nationalist who supported the nazis. their accusations were counted in some quarters, but suspicions continued to resonate in discussions in german national media.
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when hut is a full rule for people accepted these accusations without researching that warner without approaching the artist was involved grinsley. let alone ruin group are directly linked by that it ultimately led to positions. probably becoming entrenched on both sides is shown in professional gardens items for health and accusations and entrenched positions. even before the documentary had got underway, then director general repeatedly defended the curator's v. as in kind 9 be d. as we do not see any bd as influence in this documentary is here and is, and we haven't seen any anti semitic artistic stances or statements in this context up to now context this lung. because in that, some of the curators were strident critics of israel and cigna trees of a letter, a gay apartheid. for example,
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it classified israel as an apartheid regime of the little if a part that is a letter against apartheid is clearly anti is raynichol. it's very one side of the only taking the side of the palestinians in the entire conflict. in particular who in the conflict of may 2021. these are that is in these railings are seen solias perpetrators. nevertheless, this depiction is still not anti semitism. it is for now a distorted image of the middle east conflict of the curators felt misunderstood victims of prejudice and racial discrimination. they plans to stage a series of discussions on racism as well as anti semitism. but the proposed podium discussions were criticized by the central council of the jews in germany. it's president yoseph schuster wrote to the minister of state of a coach at claudia holt saying that concerned jewish figures and the council had
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been excluded. participants began to pull out, and the documentary ultimately canceled the talks. the curators wrote an open letter criticizing the collapse of the plans, talks as a break down in the gym and discourse on anti semitism and racism. but they avoided speaking to the media directly to concealer. obviously, from very early on, the artist felt that they had been put in a corner and did not get the impression that people were really talking or listening to them. and that placed a strain on them in particular because a lot of what was said can also be understood as racist talk would. oh it's my sister's pushed in con, critics fear that anti semitism was getting a platform on gym and soil. those criticized felt they were the targets of discrimination. their office was plastered with racist slogans. the sit ration escalated. there was
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a break in at the exhibition rooms of the palestinian group at the car. it was with me it with graffiti activists projected images on to exhibition buildings drawing parallels with the nazi era. before the documentary had opened its doors, the climate had become completely toxic. and then the dispute exploded with the 1st glimpses of the exhibition in the series of paintings. cold guernica garza was extremely controversial while from so right as admissible criticism of israeli attacks on garza, for others. it was openly anti semitic, and was advised to historically, it is an absolute crime to acquaint the destruction and deny elation of guernica in the boss or country in the plan, deny lation of the entire boss, people by franco and hitler with the problems in the gaza. strip these problem, i think, inadmissible, in terms of our history for history, it's fairly
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a welcome political propaganda, and that is alina's. political danica is by mohammed al, how, what tree it combines motifs from old masters with images of war. he's a member of the garza based if he can art group and with invited by the palestinian collective. the question of funding the artists origin should also be considered when deciding whether this series is anti semitic. according to anti semitism expert, may han mentor the result in concert we should assess and work made by palestinian people who live in garza very differently than one created elsewhere in the wow. and this of the, of course, even if this work about is very one sided, it very clearly comes from somewhere very specific to the visit has noticed that it was created by people who live under occupation or in the case of gaza under can fine men's care in an enduring conflict,
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so how can there aren't is born out of this suffering and this, i'll see the she math or the teens eoc once before august else's name and the, until she got question is should we adopt different standards and different countries and different cultures when it comes to antisemitism with us and i have a very clear opinion on that. my, the mind on anti semitism is something that can be objected by a celtic t v. about this very divergent assessment of this palestinian series of artworks shows how differently people can think about these issues. the blunt marking dizzily guernica garza from her mother. i think mity zation of mohammed al her watery is full series, guernica garza as i anti semitic. it was wrong from the outset good guernica game. miley cantos, 1937 painting. guernica has become a universal anti war symbol,
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like them harmless channels. romulus artists as of use the motif or paraphrased the paintings without any one contemplating that they could be making a reference to the nazi aaron or drawing a nazi comparison. oh so so, so in is for glazed still better than that just it only happened here in germany's endorsement gusher and it is the result of complete ignorance towards modern art history. ignore on skin bore also more down in concentration. many critics, including ones from outside germany, initially reviewed the art which was mainly from the global south in positive terms . there was also interest in an art exhibition that drew on the idea of solidarity and community the artwork, people's justice, was not hung in time for the press preview. the documentary later said that the arrival of the huge banner in castle had been delay, and the banner damaged. the organizes said it could only be displayed once it had
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been repaired. the image created by the indonesian collective tiring party with 2 motifs that can be interpreted as anti semitic. unleashed a huge scandal does find that people's justice just an a matter the van of people's justice is akin to the caricatures and the nazi newspaper dash drama. and flies from boston, and it represents jews in a way that we can not have imagined happening in germany. in the year 2022 had been forced out into an action like this could be displayed in the middle of a ta marketplace in this way. and i start so august as well, and kind of d as a new build. so maybe this picture, you can immediately see 2 anti semitic images unfurnished, and one is a dehumanized stereotype of a jewish banker. it's an
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o and we point it is bloodshot, eyes, animal fangs, and a bowler hat with as asked. insignia as a swollen one. the morons of that figure is a demon controlling him. you could say. and in front of that, the depiction of a ma side agent with a picks head and the star of david on a red neck achieve. it has demonic connotations. in indonesia and gala iconography mcguffey, evelyn them, when he see at us, it unleashed a wave of indignation. but those responsible didn't respond immediately. in a statement to the documentary director general and the executive board said, all those involved regretted the lines had been crossed and feelings, haute and quote. we also expressly apologized that anti semitic images when not identified before the works hanging and quote, ah, the banner was covered over, but that didn't quell the indignation. a day later, the decision came to take it down, ruin groupon, on the ot. collective tiring party offered explanations over the following days.
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they apologized. tiring party said they recognized that the imagery had quite taken on a specific meaning in germany's historical context. we were shock because since the finally by the beginning of our existence, to try our best to, to respect all people, we know it was painted there. but we didn't knock is that when we displayed here. so because 1st, because it was 20 years ago. second. because there are so many figures in that banners with it by 12 me. those been odd tharp because
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perhaps we we've seen it to do many times. in fact, the 20 year old work created by the collective fema ties, the horrors of the su hearty regime. that ruled over indonesia for decades. it was responsible for the murders of hundreds of thousands of alleged communists. the dictators who hot, i was propped up by western politicians like helmet cole and western intelligence agencies like the cia and germany's foreign intelligence service to be in d dead jamar. oh, so we could have such a towering potty auto code. we are very sorry that we supported this dictatorship back then, which began with dreadful massacres or muscle mode because not windows. and that would have been an appropriate response from an equals after towering potties apology for the picture went on toddling party from the diesel seem a bit towering party literally means teeth of the rice plant. the group was formed
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by art students in the 1990s in protest against the su hotter regime. as a left wing collective opposed to capitalism and military violence, they were classified as enemies of the state. their banners also featured in the street protests that ultimately ousted su harter in 1998. since then, they have been an established part of indonesia, cultural landscape, clue towering party, say that very few journalists, all politicians had shown any real interest in that perspective. this is not about what dialogue after all because there wasn't many this now about exchange ideas this,
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this is last about understanding is are the difference. it is more about breaking babu that you couldn't even talk about that's what make us even more st. towering party said they could no longer recollect who painted which figures back then people disagreed about whether the ma sad figures constituted an anti semitic stereotype. either is a single one that has all of these figures represented secret service agents of western providential, sylvania and the mos, i'd figure was only one of them either the phone and that's why i would not now judge it to be anti semitic. it's as anticipate wish i should often van. indeed the pig symbolizes something different to taryn pardons by telling body and
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has its own significance in indonesia and left wing circle. gonna be door to hot deamber, which doesn't have anything to do with our view. austin all the tradition of depicting jews as paint whiner who missed super hot here kind of an ice mission on to cb 2. so i don't regard this as an anti semitic image and but as a criticism of intelligence agencies quinn, christian product of the cookie. the historical background also justifies his criticism to see if at all the agencies named, including the israeli one were involved at the top of so hard to was very brutal regime hydrogen. the criticism is legitimate to you and i don't regarded as anti semitic as the figure doesn't use any stereotypes in the sense of the boss with the side logs or hooked noses or such like i just finished meeting the central council of the jews in germany by contrast said the pitches symbolism spoke for itself. yet mangan, all these elementary event here precisely these elements were used ultimately to
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criticize massage, and by the apparently, at least as with other batches. but it doesn't use the israeli flag for example, but the star of david couldn't lot up. so there's a clear reference to jews and it is a very intentional one. and for the ups is to say, ah, the document a 15 had turned into a controversy. the people who had been warning of anti semitism for months, felt vindicated. even before the banners discovery, germany's biggest newspaper had denounced. it is shameful. another major news portal later dubbed it the anti semitic 15. the german chancellor said he would not be attending the pressure on minister of state for culture. claudia hoard was growing castles, macklin, tien gisela and the state of hesse's coach. him minister, angular dawn too. but apart from the curator's apology is responsible just traded
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blame claudia, who said she felt deceived, adding that for months she'd been assured that there would be no kind of anti semitism at the document. so that is, nick. every one has just passed the bogs guide. the supervisory board was not responsible for the city of castle and the state of hair, sir. not responsible di, the people who commissioned the curators not to be seen far and wide, and not responsible for unfortunately, the curators who wanted to adopt an entirely new curatorial concert and not responsible either in the club. i think that's a problem by a massive exhibition, like this needs, clearly defined responsibilities and also curatorial responsibility of nicola tools are fun to do that went wrong, it didn't work and shorten it problems. it's all homeowners. crew to the problem is also located in the ministry of state for contra does muslims, again, that has to be addressed. linda smith and even the fall warnings. people can't just
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react with surprising in the way some people are doing music gets any good of osgood. psych, tom love one allison, it's dusk from the outside. i don't think you can judge who made what mistake. i think that it was good that ruin group. i, as the artistic directors took on responsibility for the works of tearing party, and that they apologized. jessie, and sure did. tom said man a to me, as arden couldn't in for fail course, i would have been possible to say in advance on that. yes, we must discuss the issue more clearly with the artisan slacken come, but what i cannot do in advance, and i have always resisted that. i cannot act as a sensor. kiner sings will throw on him. that was law constitution guarantees artistic freedom. i said in terms of the works and their impact off kind of there cannot be pre censorship and i cannot install a committee in advance that tells the artist and so that's okay. thumbs up. that's not ok. the thumbs down until the disagreements, continued. man mendel,
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the head of the and frank educational center in frankfort 1st offered to act as an advisor, but then withdrew that alpha. he said those responsible for the documentary when not willing to address the anti semitism scandal. in response to mendel's decision, the celebrated artist tito shanaiah announced that she would withdraw her video installation. she said that she had lost faith in the management due to their treatment of the anti semitism scandal. she said, the exhibition makers had refused to accept mediation. director general's sabina schulman, initially rejected kohls for her to step down a name of mine, of, of gov if i'm exercising my role with all due responsibility. goldberg not before. i still believe in document a 15 on, and i also believed that a captain should remain on board in heavy seas as copy to him on board blabbed.
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but the political pressure became overwhelming. in mid july, sabina shall man step down from the helm of the international art exhibition. the cultural manager alexander found hosts became the interim head. 2 days later the world's biggest art exhibition has revealed yawning divisions. the document 15 was meant to bring about more understanding to bring the perspective of people from former colonies into focus. instead, they feel as if they have been re colonized while others emphasize that lines have been crossed, that never should have been can we learn something from it nonetheless, needing some as us. we must talk myself included as i look back after time, as allows to schools and see it much more as
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a problem of discourse. the one that shows us a more underlying problem can, namely, it's 5 how to we in germany with german history. though, look at israel and the middle east conflict. he still is earliest denials gothic did, but to vote against like, the debate was clearly instrumental. ised and turned into something that's now being called an updated version of the german historians debate of the 19 eighties and a conqueror. and ultimately, a contest is being opened up about remembering, remembering the showing and also the completely new demands that germany's colonial history should also be remembered. as i said, this is a very rapidly developing discourse, and that's why it's also highly charged off the line of eyes up bringing different histories into dialogue with one another. how could that work? what does this documentary mean for future debates? and exhibitions? consequence all stay active the butter. the consequence of the current debate
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should be that people once again engage critically with anti semitism in the field of art and culture. sancho tools, none the sets, people should look at how we can keep art and culture free from antisemitism. in the future and what are the instruments and measures required to ensure that all the mos normandy, the fil father listened. and on this also gave alice in each fin them. i find germany as a society, as a state and reliable, and surprisingly democratic, and still not at all extremist, but helped me exclaim, is tish. then when i say this is good and then the next thought stands to reason. i mean, these debates should also function without all this stridency when it isn't gone on it is against. if we have to break that down by saying we are all working together on the same project to salmon onto some sale, to preserve germany as a moderate non extremist countries exclaim, and we didn't discuss every things come on. this foundation, borden couldn't be it. us. alice in who were disclosed to m. m
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