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ah, you won't pay to extension and politics starts october 21st on d, w ah ah, business dw news lived from berlin. you leaders struggle to agree on a price cap on natural gas. they're debasing measures to tackle europe to energy crisis at the summit in prague, and we will bring you that press conference life. also coming up the nobel peace prize goes to 3 champions of human rights jail bell,
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russian activists. alice dot sky is honored alongside russia's memorial organization and ukraine's center for civil liberties. ah, i'm a new chrisman can and thanks so much for joining us today. you leaders are in prague debating measures to tackle europe's energy crisis with a possible cap on gas prices. on the table, now tensions remain over how best to deal with the soaring cost of energy. there are increasing calls for a unified e response, but the block is so far, far from agreement. now we are expecting a press conference with you, lead us to start shortly. which we will bring to you life while,
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while we're waiting, we can speak to d. w as chief political correspondent, melinda crane, and standing by for us at the east summit in prague, is dw brussels beer chief, alexandra vaughn. norman and alexandra, if i can start with you soaring energy prices and how to tackle them. now that is the main issue facing the e u. leaders in prague, isn't it? is it unrealistic to expect any kind of solution today? well, i don't think that we can expect a solution to day 1st of course is this an informal summit and that means that that leaders are not expected to make any decisions. however, another reason why i'm not expecting a solution today is because we are hearing from a delegations here from, from our sources that the leaders are not moving any closer to a solution that could be, at least from the perspective of many members, states,
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a price kept on gas imports, but it is apparently still germany, debt is opposing such a decision. and as i said, we rather would expect a leaders to discuss and then to agree, at least on a direction they would like to go. but it doesn't seem that that is happening here, melinda, and there's been an awful lot of talk, hasn't there about a cap on the gas prices? can you and help us understand how something like this could alleviate the situation? absolutely. where we're seeing storing energy prices throughout the european union, prices of gas and of electric power rising very, very rapidly. yeah. here in germany it feels like power companies and gas providers are writing to us practically every week with a new price increase. and that's putting a lot of pressure on citizens on households who are very concerned, they won't be able to pay those bills going forward on firms. we've seen some
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smaller and medium sized enterprises here in germany saying they're going to have to shut their doors. let people go, so of course that means also lost jobs, and germany is particularly dependent on imported gas. so a price cap could be helpful in those respects for this country and for others. but it has 2 risks that go along with that. the 1st risk is that it takes off the incentive for citizens and for firms to conserve energy, to be energy efficient. and that's the low hanging fruit, when it comes to trying to ween ourselves off of dependence on foreign suppliers. and also, of course, to have more green energy systems. secondly, the other risk is that if the price is high, it could cause gauss suppliers or whether it's russia or others to simply divert supplies to other markets where a higher prices are still being paid. whether that's china, india or elsewhere, and certainly that is a concern for germany,
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which is very dependent on imports. so indeed, there's a very delicate balance if they go through with such a plan and it's a hard thing to design to make it work, right. all right, alexandra, a tough balance that we're talking about here. can you give us a sense there in prague who is for and who is very much against the idea of this gasp, price cap or countries such as, for instance, france, greece, italy, belgium, but also spain and portugal. there are in favor of putting a cap on gas prices. they are saying that it is important to send a strong signal to the markets that the u is determined not to pay their skyrocketing prices for their gas. and they're also saying that it's important as a signal that could be sent to the consumers we are taking care of that problem. at
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the same time, there are saying that the e u, that is as a block, the 2nd largest economy in the world, can con vince, the suppliers to this, to, to stick with the prices to pay the price that the u is ready to pay on the other hand, as we just mentioned, it's germany, but also the netherlands, for instance, or denmark. they are saying it is a risky thing to do that because of course, reliable supplier such as no way for instance, can say that are not going to provide us with gas any more because there are not happy with the price cap. and they are also saying that this security of supplies is, is very important. so you have those 2 positions and it doesn't seem, at least at the moment that they are ready to compromise, to find maybe
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a solution that could be good for, for both sides. however, we are also hearing that there are different other pitches here at the german chancellor, for instance, proposed to build, build alliances where the for instance, energy hungry countries in asia with japan or south korea to try to find a solution with them and to, to move forward for from that then, melinda, and this me, in prague. it comes as germany is planning and energy aid package, worse up to 200000000000 euros. now there's been a lot of discussion about this. and the plan has also drawn a lot of criticism has not, can you explain to us why indeed, and it's not without a certain irony that the same chancellor, who is proposing international alliances at this informal summit in prague when it alone, when it came to this 200000000000 euro aid package, it would be designed both to provide consumers and firms with direct relief. those
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who are facing these higher energy bills in some form would, would get help with that. it would also include a windfall profits tax on companies that are not paying higher prices for fuel inputs, but are reaping big gains because of high market prices. those ago energy providers . and the key thing his here, germany as an industrial power house economy to under 1000000000 euros is a lot of money. but it's doable for germany. it is not doable for many other e u member countries. so basically what we're looking at here in a sense, is germany distorting the internal market within the e u, with what is referred to as state aid subsidies, a race to the bottom of that this could become as germany, with its immense economic power. does things for its industrial base that other countries are unable to do, which is why the,
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you anti trust agency has said we're going to be taking a very close look at this plan and for the chancellor is getting a lot of pushback from other e. u. member countries, very angry that germany is once again moving ahead unilaterally. this is basically a wakeup call to the you that it needs to come up with a joint solution fast because otherwise, germany will move ahead on its own. apparently, you great deal of pressure melinda crane. here in the studio with me and alexandra phenomenon in prague. thank you so much to both of you and we will of course, cover that press conference when it starts. now this year's nobel peace prize is being shared by 3 champions of human rights. the jailed bell russian rights activists, alice alice bell at ski rushes memorial organization and ukraine's center for civil liberties. now the joint award highlights the significance of civil society,
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the peace and democracy. the most highly anticipated announcement in a week of awards. at the stroke of 11 in oslo, the chair of norway's nobel committee ended the speculation. this year's peace prize is awarded to human rights advocate o. s. b ali ascii from billers the wrong human rights organization, memory, all the ukrainian human rights organization center for civil liberties together with another the committee informed the winners in chief by phone till so, congratulations. oh oh, it's okay it's, it's sir. oh, it's great. hopefully,
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you're the cc else, as they stand by the recognition of their efforts to hold the invading russian army accountable. so green, we are documenting russian military war crimes and ukraine to write the whole country with the most of the land. in particular, our team went to the key region and the 1st stage when it was liberated last year, we have more than $20000.00 crimes registered as of now is reinforcing. the committee also richard moiz ali, bailey etzky, a long time leader of the democracy movement in belarus. he was detained following anti government protests in 2020, and remains in jail without trial. russia's memorial group has also had to battle state repression. for decades it's been tracking human rights abuses and the fate of political prisoners. but it was ordered to dissolve last year, as part of the kremlin ever taught an incorrect down on descent. the nobel committee says this he, his prize was not intended to be
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a direct message to the russian president with a most. it's another stinging rebuke for the repressive regime apply to may 13 which also happens to fall on his 70th birthday. and i'm very pleased to be joined now by vera i'm as she's a board member of memorial international and focuses on human rights and on ukraine . welcome to d. w. i may have you managed to congratulate your russian colleagues at memorial yet without yes, we are all right with the police, especially as this morning and no one says try going on again. and i'm good. he is having context. so a nobel peace prize on the really difficult conditions. can you tell us, what does the nobel peace prize mean for your organization? is because of all, it's very important for more to fall off for students with typing. russia and
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russia was young to both of us and who are what they're seeing against roy. can you give us a sense of how difficult it is for your organization to continue working in particular, in russia and ukraine? well, hi, there was another place he suddenly did this because of the law. most members, for example, around she was the cause of human rights for the next. there's also, which is also abroad. and they had to leave the home office because of jennings and on another. but they're in no way we print in russia. the situation is their primary, there was no time would be to pick a whole walking around. she's continuing novel,
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but it is growing more and more danger. unfortunately, more to the russia because they're, they way out. right. it's because of may be harder traceable post several years ago and so on. and because there was in the wall company last saying are in the region, the situation are quite different, but it's a stream. the question is made very clear, the very, very difficult working conditions that you will colleagues having to deal with. do you think that winning a nobel peace prize will make any difference? will make things any easier for them to continue their work? i think in the long, long on yes, very important because on the meat of the media and
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awareness for us is that important is only the long run would be if we had was even in russia there on the board member of memorial international. thank you. so much for speaking to us here at the w. thank and we're going across now to ukraine and we can speak to d. w mathias billing, who is in usually in the south of the country. high mathias, can you tell us more about one of the nobel peace prize winners? the ukranian human human rights organizations center for civil liberties. the organization has been founded in 2007, and in the past few years have more and more been engaged in documenting what was happening in the don bus region in the war zone after 2014, they have documented force disappearances, for example, from the region and since this year, since the blue scale invasion,
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the ration full scale invasion folks, they have mainly focused on documenting war crimes, russian war crimes. and in that function they have been pretty influential here in the crane and also internationally. and they have done a lot of work in all these areas that used to be occupied by the russians. where when the russians left, it was the task was to document what they had done there and find evidence with these war crimes. so they can be maybe later used in court proceedings, international court or ukrainian was the be what's the reaction been in ukraine mathias? there has been a lot of support for the decision to award this organization the center for civil liberties. but there has also been some criticism about her, the warding representatives of the 3 countries together. not so much because there
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was criticism about the other 2 laureates. many of those who have criticized the decision half said explicitly that they see that you others as a, as worthy of the price better. the criticism is that by awarding the 3, the nobel prize committee has created some very strange equilibrium between the 2 sides. even if those were not representatives of the governments, but anti government activists, that still naming these 3 countries together, putting them together in $1.00 price, a was kind of very strange adviser to president lensky as said, it was a very interesting notion of peace to award representatives of the true aggressive countries and the country that is being addressed together. others, i have said, i pointed out that this was kind of repeating the russian narrative about the 3 countries being part of the same or being very close to each other. when at the
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moment in ukraine, this closeness is seen as an imperial tool of russian propaganda. and that there is the perception here in ukraine that still in the west. people are not accepting ukraine as being a separate country, not closely linked with russia, not bound by faith to russia, and for a while one another minister, minister of culture has called it, that this decision sounded like moscow's friendship of the people propaganda. so or not, there's not much criticism of the 2 other laurie. it's, but the decision to choo, choo, create is kind of eastern lavon x base by this decision to bind them together. this has been seen as some kind of a very insensitive move by the nobel prize committee. he mentioned that the 2 other lawrence of course, as the bell, russian activist, alice
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b epsky who was also would it be a nobel peace prize? can you tell us any more about him? yeah, he is one of the veteran, a bellow russian activists for human rights. he's been active already under the soviet union in the bill of russian civil rights movement. later when lucas anchor came to power in the 1990s, he found he came out as an activist against human rights violations by this russian regime now. and he has been in jail several times and currently now he's also serving another prison in which is seen as closely linked to the protests against lucas angle. that happened last year. 2021 in san mateo. thanks for that. asthmatic billing reporting from usually in southern ukraine. b,
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u. s. president joe biden says the risk of nuclear armageddon is assets highest since the cuban missile crisis of the $960.00 s biden warned that russian leader vladimir putin is not joking. when he talks about using nuclear weapons, following losses on the battlefield in ukraine. meanwhile, ukrainian authorities say the death toll from brushes, latest mythical attack on the southern city of jasper asia has risen to 11. the strike destroyed an apartment building there on thursday and comes as russian forces are losing more ground to ukraine's counter offensive in the south and east . gutted by russian rockets here ins apparition rescue workers searched the rebel from missing residence off the initial door and attack firefighters. headed to the scene, but a 2nd salvo, cent locals running for cover. as well as rescue workers. prison
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zalinski condemned the strikes. was a but easier beast parisha after the 1st rocket strike to day when people came to pick apart the rubble. russia conducted a 2nd rocket strike, a deal of absolute vileness absolute evil. and there have been thousands of instances of this already. and there could be thousands more. unfortunately, she, it was rather more humbled. locals were left reeling through them. why aren't you doing this to us? what are they trying to prove? killing old people. why, for what? the attacks comes. ukraine continues to force russian troops back in the south and east with these ukrainian troops and don bass, telling french reporters that they were using shells captured from the russians
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with winter. fast approaching, keep seems determined to press its current advantage as long as it can. a ukrainian troops have been making gains 30 days now in areas illegally annexed by russia, but the counter offensive is also coming at a terrible cost. thousands of soldiers have died and there is a constant stream of casualties on both sides of course dw correspondent mathias spelling. i was given access to the front lines name nikolai us by the ukrainian army, and he sent us this report. these positions are well 45 ukrainian soldiers have withstood several months of shelling in these trenches. the lines haven't moved to most of that time. the recently thing started shifting up ahead. they've started to attack russian positions more aggressively by year proponents now in some directions. we have been able to move forward,
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even right now, an attack is going on, not us. we try to put them under constant pressuring, so it will go our way. the way this of civil loved him don't. because we do want to prove, let me show you where i guys live, the soldiers stay for several months. the army doesn't have enough personnel to retake them in and out. more often, this group is getting ready for the cold seems to have written floyd few or kelly. as you move forward in winter, we will have to heat all the space and will be in his song by then. let's hope so for god's sake. 2 days ago, a shell hit just above their beds. look, thankfully the roof is so well built, didn't get through hostile nipple bill. further behind the lines, ambulances wait for injured soldiers to evacuate into hospitals.
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we told that 3 ukrainians were heard by a storming, rushing position. frontline, paramedics had them over to an ambulance that shuttles between the war zone and the hospital. ah! when you know, authority is have admitted to roughly 10000 dead soldiers as well below estimates of russian losses. but neither side are releasing precise or credible number. this time none of the injuries seem to be severe for the school year for the counter attack is costing ukrainian blood the paramedics say they've become busier recently. bishop, but on nick
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a number of injured is higher during the attack because our guys move forward to the positions of the russian villains. and then it's easy for the russians to hit them because they know their positions well and can show them in the bottom to summer because it's in a quote. paramedics returned to their waiting position. they don't know when the next trip to the hospital will be. they know it will come thailand is morning. the victims of its worst ever mass killing a day after a former policeman killed at least 36 people at a child care center. and most of the victims were young children. the attacker had been discharged from the police force or the drug allegations he later also killed his family and himself. thailand's king is to visit survivors. as flags across the country, fly at half mast, a stream of coffins arrive at the morgue. after
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a day of unimaginable terror, it was here at a rural day care center that an ex policeman killed at least $36.00 people more than 20 of them children. one teacher describe what she saw, that wow. okay, and i mean when he used his feet to take the window and then he shot at the door, i thought you got inside. so i ran to the kitchen behind. i was in shock. i didn't know what to do. some family members remain at the scene as investigations into the massacre continue. local police said the shooter had appeared in court on drugs. charges on the verdict was jus. though so far, no motive has been established. while thailand's prime minister described it as
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a shocking attack, this definitely shouldn't happen. i feel deep sadness for the victims and relatives . oh, despite relatively high gun ownership. my shootings are rare and thailand, but that's little consolation for the families of those killed and it's worse rampage by a single attacker. jen was jacob colberg as in the tie capital, bangkok, josh jay could be the king and the queen of thailand, and we'll be visiting the area soon. a day off to this, this tragedy happened. can you tell us what else is happening that a day? right. it's not exactly clear what's on the retainer. the king was expected to arrive an hour ago. there appears to be a delay. there was initially a red carpet rolled out for members of the family at the crime scene, but it was removed after people said that they found that inappropriate. you know, the members of the royal family council representing the king and queen visited
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some of the survivors and hospital earlier today, and pledge to sponsor medical treatment for the survivors and funerals with can you tell us what practical health authorities are providing to the people the children who survived this and, and their dependence so as i'm from the support for their medical treatment and funerals for the victims of government officials promised that survivors and the families of the victims will be well cared for. though we're still waiting details on what exactly that entails. there also been mental health workers assigned to assist the relatives of the victims. now my shootings are fairly rare. anti land has this incident that sparks any kind of debate on a gun ownership in thailand. there has been a bit or an estimated 10000000 privately own guns in thailand, and the country has
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a population of 70000000 and 60 percent of those 10000000 guns on legally and. and there's even a program that allows civil servants to carry firearms more easily. than, than civilian. so that program has come on in question, but what people are also taking note of is that this is the 3rd time in the last 3 years that a mastering has been perpetrated by a member of the security forces. reform of the security institutions is also going on people's minds to leave it that journalists, jacob goldberg and bank up. thanks. so much a. just a reminder, we are still waiting to hear from you leaders in prague who are set to give a press conference on their response to the energy crisis that the block is currently facing. these have been struggling to see eye to eye on measures, including a price cap on natural gas. and we will of course, bring you more on that as it happens. all right,
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let's get you up to speed on some of the other stories making news around the world . u. s. president joe biden has pardon thousands of people convicted under federal law of possessing marijuana. he did not pull for full d criminalization of cannabis, but he said no one should be in jail just for using the drug people convicted on the state. laws are not affected by this executive action, which comes about a month ahead of midterm elections when biden's democrats may lose control of congress. the united nations is cooling, fresh humanitarian corridors, to allow the distribution of fuel from haiti's main terminal and what a pass or an outbreak of cholera and surgeon gang violence have raised international concern. prime minister ariel henry used a speech to the nation to cool for international assistance flooding has killed at least 3.
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