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motion on our website to be found a d, w dot com. ah . this week's russian air strikes targeted ukraine, but they reminded nato. this is a war that is too close for comfort. today. native said that is increasing security along its eastern flank, a clear message to vladimir putin. don't bring your boar to us with that of course has already happened in ukraine. president zalinski today tele g, southern leaders. the air attacks this week make it clear. time is running out, his military needs more air, defense weapons from the west and they need them now. i broke off in berlin. this is the day ah, we have to stress that intentionally directing attacks against the civilians and
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civilian objects. that is objects which are not military objectives, amount to a war. i didn't know was the reason why, what's the was that flynn prism 2 kids thought that is war. he must additive the timing of the attack seen when people who are commuting to work. um, children are going to school is particularly shocking that it brings anger and that fear person is failing in your crime. we urge the russian federation to refrain from further escalation also coming up at natives ability to defend itself from any russian aggression is that being compromised as weapons are delivered to ukraine. so by doing that, they had reduced their sauce. but that has been the right thing to do, that the longer is war, dr. song, the more important this that you also then are able to replenish the source.
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when to our viewers watching on p b as in the united states into all of you around the world. well welcome. we begin the day with a country under renewed rocket attack from russia. as the invasion of you've crane goes into, it's 8 months people all across the country are once again hearing sirens, taking shelter. this week's air strikes the broadest to hit ukraine so far. a dozen rockets slammed into public buildings. today in the southern city of separation, the explosions had off a large fire and killed at least one person. you tax have destroyed vidal infrastructure as well as homes. a dash cam captured the moment that a missile slammed into a streets in the city of the ne pro, pedestrians ran for cover and murderous. took a vase of action the kremlin. it says that the airstrikes are in retaliation for a ukrainian terrorist attack over the weekend. a blast that destroyed the bridge
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connecting crimea with russia. it's still not clear who or what caused that explosion. today in an emergency meeting, g 7 leaders promised to support ukraine for as long as it takes. and they warned vladimir putin against using nuclear weapons for ukraine's president zalinski. the russians. ret tonight remains in the skies. to day he once again called on allies to send his military more air defense weapons. some only illusion by day friends. prime minister trust the dog, prime minister to die. prime minister kiss she died in the 7 day precedence shall michelle the land. yep. they all sla fund a lion that i ask you to provide financial help for the creation of an ass shield for ukraine. millions of people would be grateful to the group of 7 to such assistance. to me is of equitable joining me tonight here, the big table is someone who knows a lot about security in ukraine. her name is q roodick. she is
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a member of the ukrainian parliament and leader of the opposition voice party of familiar faces. we're happy that you're actually able to be here in the studio with us to like the 1st time we've been able to do that in a long time. it's good to have you with us. fantastic to hear. thank you so much for having you are here in berlin, and today the german government confirmed that the iris t air defense systems have finally arrived in ukraine. when you got the news. what went through your mind, did you say better late than never? or too little too late rather to little to late because there huge difference between 2 days ago. and today i, there destructions of their energy infrastructure in ukraine that would cost millions and even billions to rebuilt. and that would come again from our european country partners, including germany, from our allies in the united states. the difference is huge. it actually hurts me
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a lot that are there 8 months of war, we still are asking for exactly the same thing that on the day one, we are asking for air defense systems and for the fighter jets because not only they will be helping us to protect ukrainians territory, but when we're talking about the nuclear threat, and i believe we're all thinking about the nuclear threat, having enough of the air defense systems would actually increase our chances to intercepting dismissal. but i do know that at the beginning of the war you were calling for a no fly zone to be established over your going. but sir, do you believe that's? that's not going to happen according to the u. s. president, he's not willing to go that far, but he said today he is willing to keep sending these air defense systems to ukraine. if you get the number of weapons that you need, do you have faith now based on how the military has performed, that the military can create a protective air shield around the country with those weapons. we will need much more than president biden from asked us. but this would be
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a fantastic step forward or regarding things that are impossible and not happening . let's again recap you on the day one of one. nobody believe that we will be standing for more than like 2 or 3 days. look at us now. second, then nobody believe that we will get the heavy weapons because it was so dangerous to give it to us. look at us now, then nobody believe that we'll get candidacy to european union. and that happened. then nobody believed that we will be on counter offense. and look at us now. so i think impossible, things tend to happen when there is like a resolve as it is in green right now. so i do believe that maybe not right now, but this idea of giving us enough of their weapons to create an offer on for ourselves would happen at some point the prospect of peace, peace talks. i know that president zalinski says out of the question right now, but today the russian foreign minister said that russian president putin would be
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open to a one on one meeting with you as president by next month at the g. 20 summit. do you cj, in that possibility there is that the creation of a possible off ramp that we've talked about now for a long time, for putin in a possible way to begin ending this will look in terms of peace on the stations. and i would say, piece to the stations, it will always go down to this eternal question of who is the security guarantor of that put in the most keep his part of the bargain. maybe not even put it in somebody else on another leader of russia. because we know very well what it means to make deals with russia. we have been at war with them for 8 years before the invasion happened, and we have 0 trust. most of all, we know that it will, they promise you something that will break the promise. so for us to be sure they would not attack again, there would be there should be somebody else who will be saying ok,
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i'll make sure if president by there and united states, i willing to do that. that's great. but i want us to understand that would actually, it would mean this country going to work with us because because we know that we can break his promise. i was asking you earlier about the issue of territory in crimea and also eastern ukraine. the don't best if it were possible to begin peace talks. and if it were possible to present a compromise, what appears to be a compromise. ukraine gives up crimea. the russians give up our claims on the don best. is that something that you can imagine? i know it's early, but is that something that you can imagine the government in ukraine would be willing to at least consider, i don't think at this point now. i present lensky with vaguely and we are not trading on the territories. we are not trading on our people. and right now that key is so deep and so unbearable for grayness
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that i didn't see that there is an even as small space for a for consideration before you run out of time, you're here in berlin. you know that today the international monetary fund is talked about possible global recession, but recession here in germany because of the energy crisis that's resulted from this work. everywhere you look, it seems people are talking about problems, crises that have been caused by this war. and yet the whole show that people's resolve to stand with ukraine remains or do you have faith? that's going to say that way as the winter approaches are 1st the fall. it's not the we're in ukraine that raise that the energy prices put in rent on them like a year ago. even when we just started talking about that he can attack and why you with anybody seeing that even the war would be over the put in will just become as
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such a good person right away and will well lower than the prices. does anybody like literally honestly believe that i do not think cell cell, but i also know and i see this in all countries that visit, that people do understand that they are fighting for something more than ukraine for democratic values for our freedom. and for this concept that one country can just next territory of another country. it just can happen in 21st century. and this needs to be stopped. and we have talked with you that put in will not stop yourself. that's true. we are going to stop him. we. we've had that. we've talked many times and you're right. your message has stayed the same. that is true. i can say that you're roodick. it's good to have you here in the studio with us tonight. thank you. thank you. and clarity again. well, it was his strikes on civilian targets and ukraine. they are changing little on the battlefield from the north to the south. the kremlin is still losing ground.
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ukrainian forces are pushing their offensive in the south after breaking through russian defences near their song. ukraine is pushing further east after taking the strategic hub of alignment and keep as it defeated russian counterattacks aiming to retake loss territory around. bah, moot. my next guess tonight is samuel romani, he teaches politics in international relations at oxford university in the u. k. he's also the author of the upcoming book putin's war on you crate. and it examines why putin opted for in all out regime change in ukraine. and it looks at the future implications of his invasion. mr. romani is going to have you with us on these missiles strikes across ukraine that we're seeing this week in response to the destruction of the kish bridge. is that the, the truth there, or do you see this as an attempt by putting to plaque hate angry hardliners who think that this war is not going where it should?
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well, 1st of all, there's abundant evidence that now there was also released by the ukrainian military intelligence services or a gore, that it was actually the defeat in lyman at trigger this account. and that defeat, my mom is very important because it really brought out to criticize criticisms. the russian ministry defense from various hardliners. and those hardline is informed something out in from a block, as probably expressing itself on state median telegram, a privately exerting pressure and bladder. it includes key figures like tissue and strong. my ramson could euro she a maker, a guy had a lot, girlie on who are met during i was a former general and dad the wider group had, had jennifer goshen and he figures may have also been important instrumental in the appointment of the new commander circus. or the can was brutal, strong arm tactics and syria being repeated now and ukrainian said it, i mean what, what you're describing. it sounds like putin is a leader who was fighting a war on 2 fronts. he's against the, the ukrainian military, but he's also against the,
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the hard wine pro war faction at home. how much pressure is he right now under to put on a show of force and to produce some results in, in what he calls a special operation. all the ironic as thing was at 67 months ago, the people as she and that if the warden go to plan and the russia started having military defeats. if the russian economy was that battered by sanctions, it would be the people of russia becoming ab in the straits. it would be the liberal di app, pro anti war. i demonstrate, edder's, he'll be out trying to haul her boots, overthrow be the election of amaze. who might gabby threatening the grandma daft by a liberal grip and an anti war group as in completely silenced by russian garage and repression. and by the relentless diet propaganda that the people have gotten which is dull them into passivity. and now he's going to give. busy the new tre elite a small minority not is very vocal and very, very influential. my look of who's res, involving and who is not a pander to that group. otherwise,
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i think there's going to be the potential that internally, that refreshes them inside russia. would you agree that vladimir putin is no longer in control of the narrative, but surrounding this conflict? while he has control the narrative and he also controls the day to day operations is hardly very closely. and he's taken personal at orders from the generals and he often bypasses their geisha. go and valerie grama as something that embed outside organizations like being used. any of war. have talked about that something that i've done in june. my research for my own book, the book certainly has control of the operations in an, as a 9 to a man. he's making decisions that are obviously leading the country down a bit of a dark path with militarily. and he does control the, the narrative. but he has to show that he's responding to this group and i thought he was doing gifted asked why also he's ordering the foreign ministry to keep using the phrase, terence, him describe the ukranian government because these hardliners have been calling the special military operation. nicky converted to
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a counter terrorism operation for many months down. what do you make of the new commander of the special operation of who is appointed several days ago? i mean, he does not have a pretty past if you will. i mean, he's a, he's accused of using chemical weapons on civilians in syria. i think he was in prison twice. i mean, is he the, the hard guy, the tough guy that putin had to put in place would be certain service as an emblem of the corruption side, the russian lodger. as you can see by the imprison, immense. and he's been a long p handles. and impala them as well. of course he f time and he's got from a very similar con o'clock, your previous commander, that they had. i was entered warner cough by dorner. cobb was unable to convert his battlefield results from syria into the greeny theatre and remains to be seen where the survey can do the same. i mean, clearly it's track record marsh like veronica as point to brutality. in 1991,
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he was one of the only police officers you shot demonstrators, not by get got appraised or be blank, gives any provision. he was the command who was in control when syria got the majority of their territory under government control of been a leper fell, but that was due to a lot of other factors including the yeah, west and dead. the gulf states coming back to arms, appliances are in trouble. so you really can't blame it, bram. but i think we could see now is that when russia was stalling offensively and syria engaging relentless bombing a civilian infrastructure to disrupt the enemy and then launched an offensive. so i think that the strikes will be happening more regularly. i may have seen brushing media commentary say as receipt to be done for several weeks in a row. get it every day. freddy ukrainian lecherous gene of to be broken on should launch a major venza. so what he might, you is instead of trying to fight back with mobilized forces in a media blitz is you may bomb civilian targets for a greater time delay the events of and then launch it when you grant infrastructures in total as the rat or the fest with the russians hope
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a bunch of and the was they had the weapons or the massage. busy to carry that up before we went out of town and just ask you, since you've researched putin extensively, what do you make of today's news? that putin is open to meeting you as president biden. and next month's g 20 summit . well, they have who is always open to these kinds of meetings. he wants to show these isolated in the well stage. and he also wants to shout at the world savaging superpower at the united states. it's still coming to him and i've how will be framed and the out west you in the russian media discourse. it's exactly how on a smaller scale it's framed when a manual, a macro, or left shelf, or any other european leaders. we're talking to him in the past. so i think he uses that propaganda. p. i gesture at home. we share the russian. tonight. let it in practice. i don't think anything is gonna come out as meeting. i don't think there diplomacy of letting me of it is way to accomplish anything in the near term, at least not diplomacy from the last, from jeff semi romani from asher university in the u. k. we appreciate your time
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and your insights tonight. thank you here. ah, nato secretary general against oldenburg says now is the time to be firm with russia. the date of chief says that the alliance will carry out its annual nuclear response training exercise as plan. despite the war in you create cancelling the maneuvers, he said, would send the wrong signal. stoughton very cold president, putin's nuclear threats today, dangerous and irresponsible. and he warned against starting a nuclear war. that, of course, could never be won. he says the conventional war in ukraine might also prove unwinnable for russia. tankless press on tooth and it's failing in ukraine. so i think what we saw yesterday is actually this on the weakness. because the reality is that they're not able to make progress on the battlefield, rushes actually losing and above, you know, giving opportunity. so the way they're able to done respond is fine in this
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committee. attacks on a ukrainian cities in many ways is extra reflects the lack of alternatives for press the button. they are losing wrong, they had lost the momentum on they show that this war is not going ass. clowns. t w's. terry shows. she was at that native pasco office today. she joins me tonight from all. we're brussels offices. good to see you, terry. what we're here. the main takeaways from this press conference today. well, brent, you've mentioned a couple of them already. of course, everyone wants to know whether nato's, detecting any change in russia's nuclear posture. and today's children berg says that despite the ramped up nuclear rhetoric coming out of the kremlin, they haven't seen any signs that, that moscow has actually advanced in any way to use those nuclear weapons. so continuing to warn against that at the same time, and nato is warning russia not to carry out acts of sabotage against allied
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infrastructure. of course, there are a heavy suspicions that russia did carry out these attacks on the nord stream pipelines which release all this gas into the, into the sea. and also perhaps the sabotage on german railways over the weekend. so nato has increased the presence of ships in the nor see to try to deter and detect who might be planning acts of sabotage on its infrastructure. but you know, when nato says that it will stand by ukraine, as long as it takes still from burg, had to acknowledge that the longer that does take the more difficult it is for allies to sustain that level of, of support for ukraine as well as maintain their arsenals at home. so that was something that i asked the secretary general about whether allies can continue increasing their weapon supplies to ukraine, even if that means dipping into their own stockpiles at home. let's hear what he had to say. you said that you will be making decisions at this meeting about how to increase national stockpiles and keep your keep your arsenals full while supplying
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more to ukraine. but for example, with the air defense, the air to air missile system that germany is sending, that was something that germany was expecting to order for itself. estonia has sent its entire shipment of javelins to ukraine. so are you worried that while allies are supplying ukraine with everything they can, they are leaving themselves unprotected at home and what will be your deliverables out of this meeting? that will change that in terms of manufacturing process in streamlining them. so they dollars have provided unprecedented support to ukrainian or with a capabilities to weapons ammunition the different types of mean co support. and that is something of course we welcome and then we have encouraged this from an athol. and of course, very much of the support to think all of us have provided the javelin, the infant systems ammunition to have for one to 2 crane that has been taken from
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the c existing stocks. so by doing that, they have reduced their stocks. but that has been the right thing to do that because it is important for all of us that ukraine wins um the battle, the war against the invading russian forces. but because if tooth and wins, that is not only a big defeats ford ukrainians, but it all the defeat on dangerous for all of us there, cause it will make the world more dangerous on it will will make passmore vulnerable. busy for further russian aggression, terry stone beg, he is being very careful, isn't it? but what is the answer to the question that you post, have nato members have been compromised? their old events is by sending weapons to ukraine. will interestingly in his answer, he's being very careful, but he's actually also being quite candid in admitting that national stocks are now
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being depleted because of the need to send these weapons to ukraine and whether they're reaching a danger point. i don't think anybody would say they are at this point. what was explained to me by the assistant secretary general for defense investment is that countries have a comfort zone by which they wouldn't like to drop below this. and now some of them are, and some of them have said publicly that they're worried about this, but that doesn't mean that they're vulnerable to, to any kind of attack yet. at the same time, one thing nato is going to have to focus on is how to increase the speed in which weapons can be manufactured. because while for example, is stony is sent its entire shipment of javelins to ukraine. that means it doesn't have any at home. it very much would like to replenish its own stalks. the same with other countries that are, that are sending weapons to ukraine, germany with this air to air missile system. so i think that this is something that nato is really now galvanizing itself to try to answer. and you're the star post that would have to be replenished in that could mean big business for us, defense companies, or you could possibly push european countries to come together. we're cooperation
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on defense. are you hearing anything like that? i mean, is it like it will mean both of those things. of course it's big business for us weapons manufacturers, but also for european weapons manufacturers. this is unquestionably going to be a bonanza for, for companies like that. because nato allies are going to have to order more and more weapons again, as we said, to replenish their own stocks. but also to can sit, continue sending to you cream. now more and more because they don't have these supplies on the shelf, they're going to be buying them directly for ukraine. so yeah, there's no question that manufacturing industry is, is going to earn a lot of money out of this. but at the same time, i think that something made has been looking to do for a long time is get countries to order things together. they haven't been willing to do that. and now that is really going to streamline the process and make it more efficient by giving manufacturers large enough orders to ramp up their production lines. to re schultz is always terry. thank you. and finally,
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angela lands berry. the small town sluice on that caught tv series murder, she wrote, has di. she was 96 for family 1st that she passed away in her sleep. at her home in los angeles, murder, she wrote was a staple on the small screen it ran for 12 seasons with lambs, very playing a withered mystery writer who was always one step ahead of both the criminals and the police. before her, most like conic role is very was big on the big screen. her film roles earned her 3 oscar nominations for best supporting actress angela lands, beer dead at 96. well, the day's almost done, the conversation continues online. you'll find that on twitter either at the w news, you can follow me on twitter at brent golf t b. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see that everybody i
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