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information on our website to be found a d, w dot com. ah . this week's russian airstrikes targeted ukraine, but they reminded nato. this is a war that is too close for comfort. today, nato said that is increasing security along its eastern flank, a clear message to vladimir putin. don't bring your war to us. will. that of course has already happened in ukraine. president zalinski today tele g 7 leaders. the air attacks this week make it clear. time is running out, his military needs more air, defense weapons from the west and they need them now. i broke off in berlin. this is the day ah, we have to stress that intentionally directing attacks against civilians and
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civilian objects. that is objects which are not military objectives, amount to a war. i didn't know was the reason why, what's the was the lin prism 2 kids thought that is war. he must additive the timing of the attack seen when people who are commuting to work on children are going to school. it's particularly shocking that it brings anger and that fear person is failing in your crime. we urge the russian federation to refrain from further escalation. also coming up at nato's ability to defend itself from any russian aggression is that being compromised as weapons are delivered to ukraine. so by doing that, that reduced their sauce. but that has been the right thing to do. the longer is war, dr. song, the more important is that you also then are able to replenish these those
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will, to our viewers watching on p b as in the united states into all of you around the world. well, welcome. we begin the day with a country under renewed rocket attack. would rocket attack from russia, as the invasion of you've crane goes into its 8th month people all across the country are once again hearing sirens, taking shelter. this week's air strikes the broadest to hit ukraine so far. a dozen rockets slammed into public buildings. today in the southern city of separation, the explosions had off a large fire and killed at least one person. you tax have destroyed vidal infrastructure as well as homes. a dash cam captured the moment that a missile slammed into a street in the city of the ne pro, pedestrians ran for cover and murderous. took a vase of action the kremlin. it says that the airstrikes are in retaliation for a ukrainian terrorist attack over the weekend. a blast that destroyed the bridge
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connecting crimea with russia. it's still not clear who or what caused that explosion. today in an emergency meeting, g 7 leaders promised to support ukraine for as long as it takes. and they warned vladimir putin against using nuclear weapons for ukraine's president zalinski. the russians. ret tonight remains in the skies. to day he once again called on allies to send his military more air defense weapons. sonya, losing at by dear friends, us prime minister, trust the door, prime minister to die. prime minister key, she died then the 7 day precedence shall michelle lang. yep. d, o sla funder lion that i ask you to provide financial help for the creation of an as shield for ukraine. millions of people will be grateful to the group of 7 will to such assistance. certainly is of equitable joining me tonight here at the big table as someone who knows a lot about security in ukraine. her name is kiera roodick. she is
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a member of the ukrainian parliament and leader of the opposition voice party of familiar faces were happy that you're actually able to be here in the studio with us to like the 1st time we've been able to do that in a long time. it's good to have you with us. fantastic to hear. thank you so much for having. you are here in berlin, and today the german government confirmed that the irish t air defense systems have finally arrived in ukraine. when you got the news. what went through your mind, did you say better late than never? or too little too late rather to little to late because there huge difference between 2 days ago. and today i, there destructions of their energy infrastructure in ukraine that would cost millions and even billions to rebuilt. and that would come again from our european country partners, including germany, from our allies in the united states. the difference is huge. it actually hurts me
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a lot that are there 8 months of war, we still are asking for exactly the same thing that on the day one, we are asking for air defense systems and for the fighter jets because not only they will be helping us to protect ukrainians territory, but when we are talking about the nuclear threat, and i believe we're all thinking about the nuclear threat, having enough of the air defense systems would actually increase our chances to intercepting dismissal. but i do know that at the beginning of the war you were calling for a no fly zone to be established over you going. but sir, do you believe that's? that's not going to happen according to the u. s. president, he's not willing to go that far, but he said today he is willing to keep sending these air defense systems to ukraine. if you get the number of weapons that you need, do you have faith now based on how the military has performed, that the military can create a protective air shield around the country with those weapons. we will need much more than president biden from asked us. but this would be
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a fantastic step forward or regarding things that are impossible or not happening. let's again recap on the day one of where nobody believed that we will be standing for more than like 2 or 3 days. look at us now. second, then nobody believe that we will get the heavy weapons because it was so dangerous to give it to us. look at us now. then nobody believed that we'll get candidacy to european union. and that happened. then nobody believed that we will be on counter offense and look at us now. so i think impossible sinks tend to happen when there is like a resolve as it is ingrained right now. so i do believe that maybe not right now, but this idea of giving us enough of their weapons to create and oh, plays on for our south would happen at some point the prospect of peace, peace talks. i know that a president zalinski says out of the question right now, but today the russian foreign minister said that russian president putin would be
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open to a one on one meeting with you as president by next month at the g. 20 summit. do you cj, in that possibility there is that the creation of a possible off ramp that we've talked about now for a long time, for putin and a possible way to begin ending this work. look in terms of piecing associations and i will say peace negotiations. it will always go down to this eternal question of who is the security guarantor of that putting the most keep his part of the bargain . maybe not even putting in somebody else, some another leader of russia. because we know very well what it means to me is that russia, we have been at war with them for 8 years before the invasion happened. and we have 0 trust. most of all, we know that if they promise you something that will break the promise. so for us to be sure they would not attack again,
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there would be there should be somebody else who will be saying ok, i'll make sure if president binder and the united states are willing to do that. that's great. but i want us to understand that would actually, it would mean this country going to war with us because because we know that we can break his promise. i was asking you earlier about the issue of territory in crimea and also eastern ukraine, the don't bass if it were possible to begin peace talks. and if it were possible to present a compromise, what appears to be a compromise. ukraine gives up crimea. the russians give it all claims on the don't bass. is that something that you can imagine? i know it's early, but is that something that you could imagine the government in ukraine would be willing to at least consider i don't think at this point now or president zaleski was vaguely and we are not trading on the territories. we're not trading on our people. and right now they're p is so deep
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and so unbearable for grayness that i didn't see that there is an even as small space for, for consideration. before you run out of time, you're here in berlin. you know that today the international monetary fund is talked about a possible global recession, but recession here in germany because of the energy crisis that's resulted from this war. everywhere you look, it seems people are talking about problems, crises that have been caused by this war. and yet the whole show that people's resolve to stand with ukraine remains, or do you have faith that's going to stay that way as the winter approaches? well, 1st of all, it's not the we're in ukraine that raise that the energy prices put in rent out them like a year ago. even when we just started talking about that he can attack and why you with anybody seeing that, if the war would be over that put in will just become as such
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a good person right away and will well lower than the prices. does anybody like literally honestly believe that i do not think cell cell, but i also know and i see this in all countries that visit, that people do understand that we are fighting for something more than ukraine for democratic values for our freedom. and for this concept that one country can just the next 33rd of another country. it just cannot happen in 21st century. and this needs to be stopped. and we have talked with you the put in will not stop yourself . that's true. we are going to stop him. we, we've had that we talked many times in your what your message has stayed the same. that is true. i can say that you're roodick. it's good to have you here in the studio with us tonight. thank you. thank you. and glory to acquaintance well, which is strikes on civilian targets and ukraine. they are changing little on the battlefield from the north to the south. the kremlin is still losing ground.
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ukrainian forces are pushing their offensive in the south after breaking through russian defences near their song. ukraine is pushing further east after taking the strategic hub of alignment and keep as it defeated russian counterattacks aiming to retake loss territory around. bah, moot. my next guest, united samuel romani, he teaches politics in international relations at oxford k. he's also the author of the upcoming book putin's war on you crate. and it examines why putin opted for in all out regime change in ukraine. and it looks at the future implications of his invasion. mr. romani is going to have you with us on these missiles strikes across ukraine that we're seeing this week in response to the destruction of the kish bridge. is that the, the truth there, or do you see this as an attempt by putting to play kate angry hardliners who think that this war is not going where it should?
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well, 1st of all, there's a blended evidence that now there was also released by the ukrainian military intelligence services or a gore. that it was actually the defeat in lyman at trigger this account. and that if you moment is very important, because it really brought out to criticize criticisms, the russian ministry defense from various hardliners and those hardliners have formed something out in from a block, as probably expressing itself on st. median telegram a privately exerting pressure. i'm glad of rented, includes key figures like kitchen and strong met, ramson could euro t, a maker, a guy, analog gurley and who are met gurley i was a former general and dad the wider group had to jennifer goshen and he figures they have also been important instrumental in the appointment of the new commander circus, or they can be brutal, strong arm tactics. and siri are being repeated now. and ukrainian said it's me what, what you're describing. it sounds like putin is a leader who was fighting a war on 2 fronts. he's against the, the ukrainian military, but he's also against the,
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the hardline pro war faction at home. how much pressure is he right now under to put on a show of force and in to produce some results in what he calls a special operation. all the ironic a thing was at 67 months ago, the people as she and that if the warden go to plan and you rush started having military defeats. if the russian economy was that battered by sanctions, it would be the people of russia becoming ab in the straits. it would be the liberal di app pro anti war. i demonstrate edder's, he'll be out trying to haul her boot. don't ruth route would be the election of always who might dabby threatening the grandma that by a liberal group and an anti war group isn't completely silenced by russian garage and her oppression, and by the relentless, died of propaganda that the people have gotten which is dull them into passivity and now he's having to deal with the new tre elite, a small minority that is very vocal and very, very influential. my look of who's res, involving and who is not a pander to that group. otherwise, i think there's going to be
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a financial that internally that refreshes them inside russia. would you agree that vladimir putin is no longer in control of the narrative, but surrounding this conflict? while he has control the narrative, he also controls the day to day operations is hardly very closely. and he's taken personal orders from the generals and he often bypasses their geisha go and other grass. emma has something that impact outside organizations. they've been used any of war, have talked about that, something that i've done in june. my research for my own book. the book certainly has control over the operations in an, as a 9 to a man. he's making decisions than obviously leading the country down a bit of a dark path with militarily. and he does control the banana. but he has to show that he's responding to this group and i thought he was doing, and he answered ask why. also, he's ordering the foreign ministry to keep using the phrase, terence, him describe the ukrainian government because these hardliners have been calling the special military operation to be converted to
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a counter terrorism operation for many months down. what do you make of the new commander of the special operation of who is appointed several days ago? i mean, he does not have a pretty past if you will. i mean, he's a, he's accused of using chemical weapons on civilians in syria. i think he was in prison twice. i mean, is he the hard guy? the tough guy that putin had to put in place would be certain sir vacant as an emblem of the corruption side of the russian lodger. as you can see by the imprison, immense, and he's been a long p handles and all of them as well. of course he ab time and he's got from a very similar con o'clock. your previous commander. they had, i was entered warner, cough, but dorner. cobb was unable to convert his battlefield results from syria into the greeny theatre and remains to be seen where the survey can do the same. i mean, clearly it's track record marsh like veronica as point to brutality. in 1991,
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he was one of the only police officers you shot demonstrators, not by get got appraised or be blank. given any progression, he was the command who was in control when syria got the majority of their territory under government control and aleppo fell, but that was due to a lot of other factors including the yeah, west and dead. the gulf states coming back to arms, appliances are in trouble. so i really can't blame it, bram. but i think we could see though, is that when russia was stalling offensively and syria engaging relentless bombing a civilian infrastructure to disrupt the enemy. and then launched an offensive. so i think that the strengths will be happening more regularly. i may have seen brushing media commentary say as this needs to be done for several weeks in a row. get it every day. freddy ukrainian lecherous teen of to be broken on should launch a major venza. so what he might, you is instead of trying to fight back with mobilized forces in a media blitz is you may bomb civilian targets, trip rate, or time delay the events of and then launch it when you grant infrastructures in total as the rat or the fest with the russians hope a bunch of as
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a was they had the weapons or the massage. busy to carry that up before we went out of town and just ask you, since you've researched putin extensively, what do you make of today's news? that putin is open to meeting you as president biden. and next month's g 20 summit . well, they have who is always open to these kinds of meetings. he wants to show these isolated in the well stage. and he also wants to shout at the world savaging superpower at the united states. it's still coming to him and i've how will be framed and the out west you in the russian media discourse. it's exactly how on a smaller scale it's framed when a manual, a macro oil, i've shelf, or any other european leaders. we're talking to them in the past. so i think he uses that propaganda. p. i gesture at home. we share the russian. tonight. let it in practice. i don't the i think is in a coma as meeting. i don't think there diplomacy. a lot of it is way to accomplish anything in the near term, at least not diplomacy from the last, from jeff semi romani from oxford university in the u. k. we appreciate your time
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and your insights tonight. thank you. yes. ah, nato secretary general un stoughton berg says, now is the time to be firm with russia. the date of chief says that the alliance will carry out its annual nuclear response training exercise as plan. despite the war in you create cancelling the maneuvers, he said, would send the wrong signal. stoughton very cold president, putin's nuclear threats today, dangerous and irresponsible. and he warned against starting a nuclear war. that, of course, could never be won. he says the conventional war in ukraine might also prove unwinnable for russia. tankless press on tooth and it's failing in ukraine. so i think what we saw yesterday is actually is on the weakness. but was the reality is that they're not able to make progress on the battlefield. russia is actually losing on the back of the giving opportunity. so the way they're able to then respond is by, in this committee attacks on a,
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the ukraine and see this in many ways is actually reflects the lack of alternatives for press the button that they are losing wrong. they had lost the momentum on they show that this war is not going ass. clowns. t w's. terry shows. she was at that native protocol office today. she joins me tonight from all. will brussels offices, good to see you, terry. what we're here. the main takeaways from this press conference today. well, brett, you've mentioned a couple of them already. of course, everyone wants to know whether nato's detecting any change in russia's nuclear posture. and today's children berg says that despite the ramped up nuclear rhetoric coming out of the kremlin, they haven't seen any signs that, that moscow has actually advanced in any way to use those nuclear weapons. so continuing to warn against that at the same time, and nato is warning russia not to carry out acts of sabotage against allied
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infrastructure. of course, there are a heavy suspicions that russia did carry out these attacks on the nord stream pipelines which release all this gas into the, into the sea. and also perhaps the sabotage on german railways over the weekend. so nato has increased the presence of ships in the nor see to try to deter and detect who might be planning acts of sabotage on its infrastructure. but you know, when nato says that it will stand by ukraine, as long as it takes still from burg, had to acknowledge that the longer that does take the more difficult it is for allies to sustain that level of, of support for ukraine as well as maintain their arsenals at home. so that was something that i asked the secretary general about whether allies can continue increasing their weapon supplies to ukraine, even if that means dipping into their own stockpiles at home. let's hear what he had to say. you said that you will be making decisions at this meeting about how to increase national stockpiles and,
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and keep your keep your arsenals full while supplying more to ukraine. but for example, with the air defense, the air to air missiles system that germany is sending, that was something that, that germany was expecting to order for itself. estonia has sent its entire shipment of javelins to ukraine. so are you worried that while allies are supplying ukraine with everything they can, they are leaving themselves unprotected at home and what will be your deliverables out of this meeting that will change that in terms of manufacturing processing, streamlining them, and so they dollars have provided unprecedented support to ukraine or with the capabilities, the weapons, ammunition, the different types of minto support and that is something of course we welcome and then we have encouraged this from an athol and of course, but much of the support that they thought alice had provided the javelins the infant systems ammunition to have from other to crane that has been taken from the
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c existing stalks. so by doing that, they have reduced their stocks. but that has been the right thing to do, recalls it is important for all of us that ukraine wins. um, the battle the war against the invading russian forces. but because if tooth and wins, that is not only a big defeats ford ukrainians, but it will be defeat and dangerous for all us. the course it will make the world more dangerous on it will, will make both sward vulnerable for further russian aggression. terry stoughton beg, he is being very careful, isn't it? but what is the answer to the question that you post have nader members? have they compromised their old events, is by sending weapons to ukraine? will interestingly, in his answer, he's being very careful, but he's actually also being quite candid in admitting that national stocks are now
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being depleted because of the need to send these weapons to ukraine. and whether they're reaching a danger point, i don't think anybody would say they are at this point. what was explained to me by the assistant secretary general for defense investment is that countries have a comfort zone by which they wouldn't like to drop below this. and now some of them are, and some of them have said publicly that they're worried about this, but that doesn't mean that they're vulnerable to, to any kind of attack yet. at the same time, one thing nato is going to have to focus on is how to increase the speed in which weapons can be manufactured. because, well, for example, is donya sent its entire shipment of javelins to ukraine. that means it doesn't have any at home. it very much would like to replenish its own stalks. the same with other countries that are, that are sending weapons to ukraine, germany with this air to air missile system. so i think that this is something that nato is really now galvanizing itself to try to answer. and you're the star post that would have to be replenished in vent, could mean big business for us, defense companies or you could possibly push european countries to come together.
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we're cooperation on defense. are you hearing anything like that? i mean, is it likely it will mean both of those things. of course it's big business for us weapons manufacturers, but also for european weapons manufacturers. this is unquestionably going to be a bonanza for, for companies like that. because nato allies are going to have to order more and more weapons again, as we said, to replenish their own stocks, but also to can sit, continue sending to you cream. now more and more because they don't have these supplies on the shelves, they're going to be buying them directly for ukraine. so yeah, there's no question that manufacturing industry is, is going to earn a lot of money out of this. but at the same time, i think that something nato's been looking to do for a long time is get countries to order things together. they haven't been willing to do that. and now that is really going to streamline the process and make it more efficient by giving manufacturers large enough orders to ramp up their production lines to re schultz is always terry. thank you. and finally,
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angela lansbury. these small town sluice on that caught tv series murder, she wrote his daughter. she was 96 for family services. she passed away in her sleep at her home in los angeles, murder, she wrote was a staple on the small screen it ran for 12 seasons with lambs, very playing a withered mystery writer who was always one step ahead of both the criminals and the police. before her mostly conic role is very was big on the big screen. her fill rolls earned her 3 oscar nominations. for best supporting actress angela lands, beer dead at 96. well the day is almost done, the conversation continues online. you'll find it on twitter either w news. you can follow me on twitter at brent golf t v. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see that everybody who's
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