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like the long, the mediterranean lou, it's waters connect people of many cultures seen of almost rock. and to far abdul karim drift along with exploring modern lifestyles and mediterranean. where has history left its traces. meeting people hearing their dreams mediterranean during this week on d w. it's been just over a week since russia shifted its focus from the front lines and turned all of ukraine into a potential battlefield. a close to $200.00 aerial attacks launched since then, have killed dozens and crippled ukraine's critical infrastructure. president
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zalinski says 30 percent of his country's power stations have been destroyed, leaving over a 1000 villages and towns across the country in the dark pressure as rising as temperatures start to drop. to night we ask, how can ukraine survive the winter article freely? and this is the day, ah, the drive, you destroyed the whole infrastructure or you bring it in some cities in regions of ukraine. we need to limit the supply of electricity through sir dahl and sometimes in overhauls or no light. before we go, let's go do it. all the electricity do you think is the electricity? no gas, it's been this way for a long time, 7 months now. the russell's war for me to come in for
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a double throw on. also on the show, a distress call out of haiti, powerful armed gangs, shortages of basic goods, and a ramp and cholera outbreak have become too much for the government to handle. now the u. n. is considering an armed intervention. colleagues, if there was ever a moment to come to the aid of haitians in dire need, it is now katy's leaders and people are crying out for help. oh, thanks for joining us. ukraine is calling it's another kind of arrest attacks. russian forces continue their onslaught against critical infrastructure. nationwide president voluntary zalinski says the attacks which intensify last week have destroyed nearly a 3rd of ukraine's power stations. cave is now formally asking for more robust help from israel,
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as nato rushes to deliver air defense systems to help intercept the swarms of a rainy and made drones striking targets far beyond the front lines. in the capital cave and across the country. officials in the southern ukrainian city of mc alive, pull a man's body from the rubble. a russian massage killed him as he hid in the basement. his shocked neighbor recalls the moment of impact. respite not to did one more person. we woke up at quarter to 2 in the morning because of a very loud explosion. it's impossible to describe the foot to so much dust. we were in the basement. we crawled out through openings in the ground, and neva died. unfortunately, he was a bit closer to the e p center while we were a bit farther away,
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elizabeth raska does show for many ukrainians. the past 8 months have been a seemingly endless series of horrors. but one resident to comfort and the belief that his country holds the moral high ground. no matter how much suffering moscow piles on them in the villages of the worst, that the russians get pleasure from us feeling bad, boucher dorsey? do they feel pleased when you, her job is to really i think they want us to bomb and shell their building and so on. ease to deliver at us. but we won't that mom so we can show that we're different from them that so we're still boy at lee shots that civilian residences aren't the only buildings targeted by the kremlin. russian forces also seem determined to knock out the country's energy grid. according to the mayor of the city of jets, amir air strikes on the power plant there, left 11 settlements without power,
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while russia denies deliberately attacking civilians. it says it's targeting ukraine's energy infrastructure, meaning millions could be left to face the coming winter without heat or power. and i can now welcome james hudson. he is the co founder of the economists or ukraine group and joins us from berkeley, california. welcome to the day mr. hudson, large parts of ukraine's power infrastructure have been destroyed in a single week. some places are currently even without water. how dangerous is that for the country? oh, thank you. nicole. it's great to be back on the shore now. yeah, it's hard to understate how dangerous it is for a country to lose this much energy infrastructure in such a short period of time. it's obviously going to put a lot of pressure on the emergency forces and on the energy services within the country to replace repair and find alternatives in many places. now ukraine is
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a country that gets very cold in the winter. it's a continental climate and cold causes death, cold causes, increase illness and other complications and society. we're going to see businesses in schools that can operate even more than, than they have in the past. and it will also impact areas like food logistics, which become more fragile over time. however, i think that the economic angle is especially important to, to consider in this case, which is that the ukrainians have been talking for awhile about the need to get people back to the cities, get them back to work, get them back to paying taxes, get them back to a normal life. and the biggest reason why these attacks are happening now is to prevent that from happening prevent the return of any kind of stability in corners of ukraine that we're getting used to some semblance of normalcy over the past
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couple of months with a 3rd of power stations affected after a week, doing very simple math here. that means that russia can take out the rest and another 2 weeks basically, is that a likely scenario? ok so, so the nature of energy grids is a little bit more complex than kind of a linear relationship with the removal of these nodes. so it's unlikely that you know, if you take out a 3rd and one week, you take out the full amount in 3 weeks. that's fair, very, very resilient. and actually i was lucky enough just 4 weeks ago to be in key evans speak with the minister of energy and minister for infrastructure. and i do believe that the ukrainian energy grid and encompassing all different energy sources and also on that under the circumstances of last week, for instance, selling energy to europe. and in fact, having a long history of selling excess energy to others. i think that the grid is more
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resilient than we give it credit for. however, what we need to take into consideration is that these iranian drones are cheap and the ukrainians are shooting them down with expensive western provided missile systems. if i had to guess the russians are playing the game of trying to burn down the supply of western provided missiles in order to then take on potential potentially much more damaging and broader stripes that could take out large portions of energy and other critical infrastructure with their own dwindling supplies of guided missiles. and of course, that brings up the whole conversation about the importance of and defenses and effectively closing the skies, which is what i believe we've been saying for 7 months at this point at all. we've now seen in ukraine, formally asking for help from israel actually to boost its air defense capabilities
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. to thing israel will get involved in a more robust way. i. it would be very difficult for me to take a, you know, a strong position in terms of my knowledge of israel and it's, and it's her history that i think is we'll just have to wait and see what israel does in this situation. i think the moral prerogative at this point clearly states that they need to be doing more than they have been doing. ah, but the moral prerogative is often not the one that is most important when countries are making decisions. unfortunately, that is unfortunately correct. and you know, ukraine very well and you have come to know and even better throughout this conflict and over the past 8 months, the people of ukraine have become masters of rebuilding. what russia destroy is often in a matter of days,
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how can they go about fixing these bass damages to the critical infrastructure, presumably, you know, at times without power. yeah, of course you can't really train for this, although the emergency services are supported also by teams across europe and the europeans are doing a fantastic job. also enabling kind of the selling of spare parts and kind of infrastructure enabling components that can help to re enable some of these substations. bob, when you're doing this under circumstances of continued attack, right? if it changes the dynamics of the situation now the ukrainians are very good at creating temporary infrastructure. they're very good at plucking gaps. they've done a fantastic job into connecting the infrastructure more over the past few months, which does make it more resilient. i think what we need to see is the u. s. u k and,
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and others stepping up to ensure that ukraine has all of the replacement parts, that it needs, that it has the manpower that it needs in order to carry out the emergency repairs . and moreover, if there are ways for us to help you crane to protect this new infrastructure in the repairs that they do, that's going to be extremely important. now, as i mentioned when i was in key of i, i did get to see a few places around the city and it was incredible to see the resilience of the population and how quickly they've been able to get back on their feet. clear the streets get critical services running in 2 days. i went to 2 different restaurants that were opened in the last 2 months. so this is a people that is definitely not giving up and that will continue to, to innovate. and to develop james houghton of economist or ukraine there. thank you
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so much, mr. hutton. thank you. and with those concerns over ukraine's energy infrastructure, we have news from the investigation into leaks in the north stream gas pipelines supplying western europe. danish police now say those leaks through caused by powerful explosions which did extensive damage footage shows at least 50 meters of the under water pipeline is missing. the case is being treated as an act of sabotage. today. the kremlin said the investigation was being tailored to put the blame on russia. moscow accuses the west of being behind the explosions. ah. turning now to the situation in haiti where the united nation says more than 7000000 people, a 3rd of the population are facing food and security. on top of that, a shortage of clean water has also led to
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a cholera outbreak. both food and water are running low because there is no fuel for delivery trucks due to a port blockade by powerful gangs, calls for foreign intervention to ease the crisis are only adding to the tensions police fire tear gas at protesters near the u. s. embassy and the capital port process. some wave the russian flags, they reject foreign interference and say they fear for their country sovereignty. now despite popular opposition, haiti's government has appealed for international troops to quell the chaos and restore order at an emergency meeting of the un security council. haiti's foreign minister brought what he called a cry of distress from his people. last, did you ask throughout goes the situation has dangerously deteriorated. those even mo, mo, who were terrible of bands are taking place every day of june. the build human lives are being lost. you'd not being dark kidnappings,
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near public and private property being destroyed. oh, there are rapes. yes to now looting. he does threaten intimidation. keep growing, this plunges the country further into chaos. with extremely serious consequences for everyone loves you. the united states and mexico now say they are preparing a un resolution to authorize an international mission. un secretary general and tony would cherish back the call for intervention. saying haitians faced a dramatic emergency. it's an epsilon leap nightmarish situation for the population of 80 specially portico for us. we needs an armed action to release the port until all for you when he said and quoted law to be established . i'm talking of something to be done in support of the asian police and i'm talking of something to be done based on strict humanitarian criteria. the security
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council is split on the matter and a vote on the resolution has not yet been scheduled, but there is still plenty to talk about. and for that i want to bring in pascal robert. he is a hasan american writer and co host of the podcast. this is revolution. he joins us from miami, florida. welcome, mr. robert. this is a fairly unusual move by the haitian government. how did we get here? well, thank you very much. i me on the 1st thing with understand the masonry. the major reason we're here is a consequence of the assassination of the former elected hash presidential anomalies was assassinated on july 7th, 2021. and afterwards, united states put in an elective government that was not chosen by the asian people, which is a current administration only. and much of the actual unrest exists in the country . stems from the fact from large segments of the population, not recognizing him as authority as a governor of the affairs of the people. because i see him as completely as being told on of the state department. and being unable to dictate the face of the
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country. and his concert and current requests to have us from intervention as he's done just now, indicate that these things are correct. so in terms of the actual problem we have in the countries that we have pretty much a government that is illegitimate in the as a large segment of the population. there is a country that has not had an election in 6 years trying to determine the fear by stumbling the people that put them in power in the 1st place. at the weakness of this government that is seen as illegitimate by many people in haiti has led to the rise of the gangs. how powerful are they? the questions asked about the games is not so much how father, who's financing them, explain to me how, but to so call poor individuals living important prints or getting weapons shipped to them by for, from florida all the way into the capitol. who's financing them, who has the money to do sort of thing?
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and the question then becomes the, are the people within the haitian oligarchy or the nation 5 private sector, or maybe 4 members of asian government official them are interested in trying to destabilize the cartridge, the point where they cannot be election l, so that there's no real actual democratic representation of the voice of the people . and the only consequence is that the united states and the core group and other for it, for an international actors who have a parasitic relationship with the country. going back to what the inception can come in and find a way to rational, basically undermine the sovereignty of the haitian people even further. that's why i kind of resent the notion that will make the statement that he is a fail state, maybe is going to fail state in a state that have been failed by the international community. what would the international community have to do in your opinion, to assist the people that are going through through economic hardship that are now suffering? the conditions that you know were created by
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a tumultuous history. i think that the 1st thing that has to be done, we have to realize that we have an illegitimate asian government sitting in the seat of power in the country. and that it should be a provisional government for the, for the various political parties and civil society that can come together and govern with the strict mandate to. busy hold an election within a year's time and maintain security on in the country. to do that, they asked me, which would be the capacity of maintaining some kind of military supervision by haitian police authorities over the game territories. so that i would submit the international community could help us by secondarily, but are seeing the international police, the internal police force and aid by providing the weapons and arms trading that on demand. again, at best, that is that, that, that is the most tangential if you, i would agree to having with the national community when we're consider a long history. i want to money,
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i would use the un had peacekeepers in haiti for more than a decade. and the mission was now marked by scandals ranging from blue helmets, causing a color out and break a gang raping a teenager. it's quite understandable that people are on the fence about international intervention. is there any kind of outside assistance that patients would accept? i mean, the thing is though, the question becomes when people say things like that, when the question yes is that what is a track record of the international community? once they have come and put their boots on the ground and 80. and when you look quite careful, you'll see that what they have is abuse, misused, mystery, and even infect. patients would color at one point what the last one was that it just did a few years ago the last 5 years ago. excuse me. so the question
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becomes, all haitians somewhat irrational when you say, well ok, was you tell us that we should go well. so what exactly is the track record the you have when you come all and show it, try to governor says supposedly for us in terms of what you do are people, all right, but there is an acute crisis right now. what can be done to help those in need? what can be done is that what are the steps that are necessary or can one make sure that we have a gentleman, haitian government and realized the provisional council government removing audio. we should be the 1st step. he should know he's, he's not recognized by the people and he's not going to be able to do anything that's going to be it will bring order to the go to the country. so provisional, collective government was very political parties coming together with the particular intention of sponsoring election within a 5 year. within one year of its mandate should be implemented to a security force budgeting, the support of days of international forces during ation. police authorities,
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what really necessary to investigate the gangs with the secondary support of international officers if necessary, should be put in the power without giving them the overall say in terms of how they're there or we're going to have to leave it there for call. thank you so much for your time tonight. they do ah. the democratic republic of congo is home to mines containing some of the purest gold in the world. but while consumers and richer countries are prepared to pay high prices for a finished product, the men who line this precious commodity are paying a different kind of price, extortion. and right, the abuses are rife at the d. r. c. gold mines which are controlled by a brewed all rebel group, access to a foreign journalists has been restricted until now, but a joint investigation with german news weekly dish fiegel has resulted in the w. maryan miller being allowed in this gold may gleam brightly, but it is stained red with blood people likely died for this precious metal
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destined for the rich world's finest juries. the democratic republic of the congo has some of the purest gold in the world. but experts say almost all of it smuggled out of the country illegally. that often means links to armed groups and human rights abuses. it all starts here in suffocating the hot tunnels that head up to 40 degrees celsius. young man scrape out the gold bearing rock. the earn barely enough to survive on for fear of reprisals. this man wants to remain anonymous. when you go to work, he just pray to god because we're feeling like it's a death sentence. often it is when the mines cave, in 6 years ago, more than 20 people were buried alive. when i was there with my 3 brothers and other miners, all of them were trapped inside the mine. i mean, you know,
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even now their bodies are still inside. when i was sad was really down than it was when you said, but i can't be sad for long. i have to earn a living. i then it was nice and i do my eyes and stuff with them. and on top of that, this mine is controlled by an armed group. the my, my yet tomba, according to a recent un report, the rebels demand what they call texas from each worker. it beat me up with an iron rod because i couldn't pay that tax. they threw me into a mud hole for days with no food. i was imprison there with 6 other people. he lost 10 kilograms. he says other minors tell us similar stories. they say that my my and never, far, even now they're hiding further up the mountain because they were informed we were coming. this is the 1st time journalist have access this mine the both the my, my yet to me by and local government officials declined our interview requests.
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it's widely known that the rebels often work together with local authorities and even shap profits with them. but with the money they also finance, brutal attacks on an ethnic group who they see as their main enemy. the my, my claim the bunny lender don't belong to the d r c. so they burned down the villages, rape, and kill scores of people east and under horror survived one of these attacks violet to the core of a ton of value. they found us at the place where we had sought refuge and they killed 3 people. sure. now i am then young they murdered my father in law and injured my mother in law. nay. a cold me. both of them were over 80. she says. she and her family were forced to march for days with no food. then they took her husband. she never saw him again. later, she learned he was hacked to death with
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a machete. they killed dozens displaced hundreds. now is that safe? sheltering at a friend's house. rebel control of the minds means conflict gold. but that's not deterring this business man. the purity of the precious metal has convinced him soon he plans to open the 1st gold refinery in the country and export from dear sea to europe and america. at the moment we're discussing a lot with the government they. we took all artisan war coming to work here. we will, they will try and trace how is going on and maybe it will help. i hope it will help . but ensuring authenticity will be difficult. traitors tell us, they fake certificates to hide, the real origin of the gold is done and a horror can only appeal for an end to the trade and blood cold i can in the last year, when i year my my cell go to white people to buy weapons to verify that is why they
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sell the golds i live your you know, is a, and i want to tell these white people to stop buying from them, but so they don't kill us will lease until. yeah, well that is the, it is a simple equation. as long as arm groups can re, profits from gold mining, they will keep earning the cash to kill and that's for time for today. but as always, the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter at the w news and myself, nicole underscore fully fernando. thank you so much for spending part of your day with
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. good future to the 77 percent every weekend on d w. d, or eternal a dynamite and the pillar of sticks in society. a symbol of arbitrary rule in the struggle for justice taxes the right to levy taxes and the obligation to pay them both inherent in the sovereignty of a nation status had their citizens. but what happens when the power of taxation is undermined? the tax on top of the tax on top of the tax. that's the rule that broke the camel's back. i've been rambling forever, thinking to myself, when is it all going to come crashing down?
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ah, you pay won't pay. taxation and politics starts october 21st on d, w ah ah. c w. news live from berlin, another wave of russian strikes targets, ukraine's energy infrastructure. power is knocked out in the capital key and over a 1000 other towns and cities. president lensky says moscow wants to terrorize and kill civilians also coming up.

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