[000:00:00;00] ah, it's been just over a week since russia shifted its focus from the front lines and turned all of ukraine into a potential battlefield. a close to $200.00 aerial attacks launched since then, have killed dozens, and crippled ukraine's critical infrastructure. president zalinski says 30 percent of his country's power stations have been destroyed, leaving over a 1000 villages and towns across the country in the dark pressure as rising as temperatures start to drop. to night we ask, how can ukraine survive the winter on nickel foolish? and this is the day,

ah, good bargain, destroyed the whole improve for you, bring in some cities in regions of ukraine. we need to limit the supply of electricity through sir dahl sometimes in our homes are all know, like people with less who don't do it, has all the electricity. and if that doesn't have electricity, no gas, it's been this way for a long time, 7 months now, the russell's war for me becoming for double throw on. also on the show, a distress call out of haiti, powerful armed gangs, shortages of basic goods, and a ramp and cholera outbreak have become too much for the government to handle. now the u. n. is considering an armed intervention. colleagues, if there was ever a moment to come to the aid of haitians in dire need,

it is now katy's leaders and people crying out for help. awe. thanks for joining us. ukraine is calling, it's another kind of terrorist attacks russian forces continue their onslaught against critical infrastructure. nationwide president volunteers, the lensky says the attacks which intensified last week have destroyed nearly a 3rd of ukraine's power stations. cave is now formally asking for more robust help from israel as nato rushes to deliver air defense systems to help intercept the swarms of iranian made drones striking targets far beyond the front lines in the capital cave and across the country. officials in the southern ukrainian city of mc alive, pull a man's body from the rubble of russian massage, killed him as he hid in the basement. his shocked neighbor recalls

the moment of impact risk with not to didn't move for us. we woke up at quarter to 2 in the morning because of a very loud explosion. it's impossible to describe the how to so much dust we were in the basement. we crawled out through openings in the ground, and neva died. unfortunately, he was a bit closer to the e p center. while we were a bit farther away, elizabeth raska does show up for many ukrainians. the past 8 months have been a seemingly endless series of horrors. but one resident to comfort and the belief that his country holds the moral high ground. no matter how much suffering moscow piles on them. in the villages of the woods, the russians get pleasure from us feeling bad, boucher lucy, the more they feel pleased when you her job is to really i think they want us to

bomb and shell their building. and so on, e 3, lou had us, but we won't that mom so we can show that we're different from them when you did. there was 2 boy at lee shots at civilian residences aren't the only buildings targeted by the kremlin? russian forces also seem determined to knock out the country's energy grid. according to the mayor of the city of jets, amir air strikes on the power plant. they're left 11 settlements without power. while russia denies deliberately attacking civilians, it says it's targeting ukraine's energy infrastructure, meaning millions could be left to face the coming winter without heat or power. i can now welcome james hudson. he's the co founder of the economists or ukraine group and joins us from berkeley, california. welcome to the day mr. hudson. large parts of ukraine's power infrastructure have been destroyed in

a single week. some places are currently even without water. how dangerous is that for the country? oh, thank you. nicole. it's great to be back on the show now. yeah, it's hard to understate how dangerous it is for a country to lose this much energy infrastructure in such a short period of time. it's obviously going to put a lot of pressure on the emergency forces and on the energy services within the country to replace repair and find alternatives in many places. now ukraine is a country that gets very cold in the winter. it's a continental climate and cold causes death, cold causes increase illness and other complications in society. we're going to see businesses in schools that can operate even more than, than they have in the past. and it will also impact areas like food logistics, which become more fragile over time. however,

i think that the economic angle is especially important to me to consider in this case, which is that the ukrainians have been talking for a while about the need to get people back to the cities, get them back to work, get them back to paying taxes get them back to a normal life. and the biggest reason why these attacks are happening now is to prevent that from happening prevent the return of any kind of stability in corners of ukraine that we're getting used to some semblance of normalcy over the past. couple of months with a 3rd of power stations affected after a week doing very simple math here. that means that russia can take out the rest and another 2 weeks basically, is that a likely scenario? ok so, so the nature of energy grids is a little bit more complex than kind of a linear relationship with the removal of these nodes. so it's unlikely that you

know, if you take out a 3rd and one week, you take out the full amount in 3 weeks. that's fair, very, very resilient. and actually i was lucky enough just 4 weeks ago to be in key evans speak with the minister of energy and minister for infrastructure. and i do believe that the ukrainian energy grid and encompassing all different energy sources and also on that under circumstances of last week, for instance, selling energy to europe. and in fact, having a long history of selling excess energy to others. i think that the grid is more resilient than we give it credit for. however, what we need to take into consideration is that these iranian drones are cheap and the ukrainians are shooting them down with expensive western provided missiles systems. if i had to guess the russians are playing the game of trying to burn down

the supply of western provided miss isles, in order to then take on potential, potentially much more damaging and broader strikes that could take out large portions of energy and other critical infrastructure with their own dwindling suppliers of guided missiles. and of course, that brings up the whole conversation about the importance of ad defenses and effectively closing the skies, which is what i believe we've been saying for 7 months at this point at all. we've now seen in ukraine, formally asking for help from israel actually to boost its air defense capabilities to thing israel will get involved in a more robust way. i. it would be very difficult for me to take a, you know, a strong position in terms of my knowledge of israel and it's, and it's history that i think is, will just have to wait and see what israel does in this situation. i think the

moral prerogative at this point clearly states that they need to be doing more than they have been doing. but the moral prerogative is often not the one that is most important when countries are making decisions. unfortunately, that is unfortunately correct. and you know, ukraine very well and you have come to know and even better throughout this conflict and over the past 8 months, the people of ukraine have become masters of rebuilding. what russia destroys, often in a matter of days, how can they go about fixing these bass damages to the critical infrastructure, presumably, you know, at times without power. yeah, of course you can't really train for this, although the emergency services are supported also by teams across europe and the europeans are doing a fantastic job. also enabling kind of the selling of spare parts and kind of

infrastructure enabling components that can help to re enable some of these substations. but when you're doing this under circumstances of continued attack, right, if it changes the dynamics of the situation, now the ukrainians are very good at creating temporary infrastructure. they're very good at plug in gaps. they've done a fantastic job into connecting the infrastructure more over the past few months, which does make it more resilient. i think what we need to see is the u. s. u k and others stepping up to ensure that ukraine has all of the replacement parts, that it needs, that it has the manpower that it needs in order to carry out the emergency repairs . and moreover, if there are ways for us to help ukraine to protect this new infrastructure and the repairs that they do, that's going to be extremely important. now,

as i mentioned when i was in key of i, i did get to see a few places around the city and it was incredible to see the resilience of the population and how quickly they've been able to get back on their feet. clear the streets get critical services running in 2 days. i went to 2 different restaurants that were opened in the last 2 months. so this is a people that is definitely not giving up and that will continue to, to innovate. and to develop james houghton of economist for ukraine there. thank you so much, mr. hudson. thank you. and with those concerns over ukraine's energy infrastructure, we have news from the investigation into leaks in the north stream gas pipelines supplying western europe. danish police now say those leaks route caused by powerful explosions which did extensive damage. footage shows at least 50 meters of

the under water pipeline is missing. the case is being treated as an act of sabotage. today. the kremlin said the investigation was being tailored to put the blame on russia. moscow accuses the west of being behind the explosions. ah. turning now to the situation in haiti where the united nations says more than 7000000 people, a 3rd of the population are facing food and security. on top of that, a shortage of clean water has also led to a cholera outbreak. both food and water are running low because there is no fuel for delivery trucks due to a poor blockade by powerful gangs, calls for foreign intervention to ease the crisis are only adding to the tensions police fire tear gas and protesters near the u. s. embassy and the capital portal process. some wave the russian flag, they reject foreign interference and say they fear for their country sovereignty.

now despite popular opposition, haiti's government has appealed for international troops to quell the chaos and restore order at an emergency meeting of the un security council. haiti's foreign minister brought what he called a cry of distress from his people. last, did you asked you are goes, the situation has dangerously deteriorated. there's even mo, mo, who were terrible of bents are taking place every day of june. the bill, human lives are being lost, did not being dark kidnappings with new public and private property being destroyed . oh, there are rapes to now looting the death threats and intimidation to keep growing. this plunges the country further into chaos with extremely serious consequences for everyone loves you. the united states and mexico now say they are preparing a un resolution to authorize an international mission. un secretary general and tony would cherish back the call for intervention. saying haitians faced

a dramatic emergency. it's an absolutely nightmarish situation for the population of 80 specially portable for us. we needs an armed action to release the port until all for you. many said encoded law to be established. i am talking of something to be done in support of the asian police. and i'm talking of something to be done based on strict humanitarian criteria. the security council is split on the matter and a vote on the resolution has not yet been scheduled, but there is still plenty to talk about. and for that i want to bring in pascal robert. he is a hasan american writer and co host of the podcast. this is revolution. he joins us from miami, florida. welcome, mr. robert. this is a fairly unusual move by the haitian government. how did we get here? well, thank you very much. i me on the 1st thing with understand the masonry. the major reason we're here is

a consequence of the assassination of the former. a presidential anomalies was assassinated on july 7th, 2021. and afterwards, united states put in an elective government that was not chosen by the asian people, which is the current administration. only, and much of the actual on risk that exists in the country, stems from the fact from large segments of the population. not recognizing him as authority as a governor of the affairs of the people. because i see him as completely as being told on of the state department and being unable to dictate the face of the country and his concert and current requests to have us from intervention as he's done just now, indicate that these things are correct. so in terms of the actual problem we have in the countries that we have pretty much a government that is illegitimate in the as a large segment of the population. there is a country that has not had an election in 6 years trying to determine the fear by stumbling the people that put him in power in the 1st place. at the weakness of

this government that is seen as illegitimate by many people in haiti has led to the rise of the gangs. how powerful are they? what she's asked about the games is not so much other than who's financing them going to me, how, but the so called poor individuals who are living in port prints or getting weapons shipped to them by for, from florida all the way into the capitol, whose financing them who has the money to do sort of thing. and the question then becomes the, are the people with the nation oligarchy or the nation fire, private sector, or maybe former members of asian government official them were interested in trying to destabilize according to the point where they cannot be elections l. so that there's no real actual democratic representation of the voice of the people. and the only consequence is that the united states and the core group and other forage for an international actors who have a parasitic relationship with the country. going back to what the inception can

come in and find a way to rational, basically on your mind, the sovereignty of the asian people even further. that's why i kind of resent the notion of the statement. the is a fail state is going to fail state in a state that have been failed by the international community. what would the international community have to do in your opinion, to assist the people that are going through through economic hardship that are now suffering? the conditions that you know were created by tomorrow to us history. i think that the 1st thing that has to be done is we have to realize that we have an illegitimate asian government sitting in the seat of power in the country. and that it should be a provisional government for the, for the various political parties and civil society that can come together and govern with the strict mandate to. busy hold an election within a year's time and maintain security on in the country. to do that,

they asked me to be the capacity of maintaining some kind of military supervision by haitian police authorities over the gain territories. so that i would submit the for international community. can help, but by secondarily what you're seeing, the international police, the internal police force and 80 by providing the weapons and arms trading that on demand the game at best. that is, that, that, that is the most tension really, i would agree to having with national community would consider that a long history. i want to money to start with. the un had peacekeepers in haiti for more than a decade, and the mission was no mark by scandals ranging from blue helmets, causing a color out and break gang raping a teenager. it's quite understandable that people are on the fence about international intervention. is there any kind of outside assistance that patients would accept?

i mean, the thing is though, the question becomes when people say things like that, what is the question you asked? what is a track record of the international community? once they have come and put their boots on the ground and 80, and when you look quite carefully, you'll see that what they have is abuse misused, mystery, and even infect. patients would color at one point what the last one was that it just did of years and years ago. the last 5 years ago. excuse me. so the question becomes, all haitians somewhat irrational when you say, well ok was you tell us that we can go well. so what exactly is a track record that you have when you come to the north shore? it's right, governor affairs is supposedly for us in terms of what you do to our people. all right, but there is an acute crisis right now. what can be done to help those in need? what can be done, is that what are the steps that necessary or can one make sure that we have a gentleman,

haitian government and realized that provisional council governments removing audio . we should be the 1st step, he should know he's, he's not recognized by the people and he's not going to be able to do anything. there's going to be a bring order to go to the country. so provisional, collective government was very political parties coming together with the particular intention of sponsoring the election within 5, within one year of its mandate should be implemented to a security force. but as being the support of days of international forces doing ation, police authorities the what really necessary to investigate the gangs with the secondary support of international offices. if necessary, should be put in the bow without giving them the overall say, in terms of how they're there. we're going to have to leave it there for call. thank you so much for your time tonight. they do ah. the democratic republic of congo is home to mines containing some of the purest gold in the world. but while consumers,

in richer countries are prepared to pay high prices for a finished product, the men who line this precious commodity are paying a different kind of price. extortion and rights abuses are rife at the d. r. c. gold mines which are controlled by a brutal rebel group. access to a foreign journalists has been restricted until now, but a joint investigation with german news weekly dash fiegel has resulted. and he w. maryan mila, being allowed in this gold may gleam brightly, but a disdain. red with blood people likely died for this precious metal, destined for the rich world's finest juries. the democratic republic of the congo has some of the purest gold in the world. but experts say almost all of it smuggled out of the country illegally. that often means links to armed groups and human rights abuses. it all starts here in suffocating the hot tunnels that

hit up to 40 degrees celsius. young man scrape out the gold bearing rock. they earn barely enough to survive on for fear of reprisals. this man wants to remain anonymous. when you go to work, you just pray to god because we're feeling like it's a death sentence. oh, often it is when the minds cave in 6 years ago, more than 20 people were buried alive. will you, grandma? i was there with my 3 brothers, and other miners who shall go. all of them were trapped inside the mind now being renovated even now. their bodies, a stu inside will. when i was sad bows really down, then it was nice, but i can't be sad for long. i have to earn a living. i then it was when it's done, i do new my eyes and stuff with them. and on top of that, this mine is controlled by an armed group, the my, my, yeah, catawba, according to a recent un report, the rebels demand what they call taxes from each worker. it beat me up with an iron rod because i couldn't pay that tax. they threw me into

a mud hole for days with no food. i was imprison there with 6 other people. he lost 10 kilograms. he says other minors tell us similar stories. they say the my, my a never far. even now they're hiding further up the mountain because they were informed we were coming. this is the 1st time journalists have access. this mine the both the my, my yet to me by and local government officials declined our interview requests. it's widely known that the rebels often work together with local authorities and even shap profits with them. but with the money they also finance, brutal attacks on an ethnic group who they see as their main enemy. the my, my claim, the bunny lender don't belong to the d r c. so they burned down the villages, rape and kill. scores of people east and under were survived one of these

attacks. well as to the core of a total of value. they found us at the place where we had sought refuge and they killed 3 people. sure. now i am then young they murdered my father in law and injured my mother in law, nay. of called me. both of them were over 80. she says she and her family were forced to march for days with no food. then they took her husband. she never saw him again. later, she learned he was hacked to death with a machete. they killed dozens displaced hundreds. now is that safe? sheltering at a friend's house, rebel control of the mines means conflict gold. but that's not deterring this business man. the purity of the precious metal has convinced him soon he plans to open the 1st gold refinery in the country and export from darcy to europe and america. at the moment, we're discussing

a lot with the government. they. we check all artisan war coming to work here we we, they would try and trace how is going on and maybe it will help. i hope it will help. but ensuring authenticity will be difficult. traitors tell us, they fake certificates to hide, the real origin of the gold is done and a horror can only appeal for an end to the trade and blood gold i can in the last year when i hear they are my my cell gold to white people to buy weapons to verify that is why they sell the golds i live your nino is a and i want to tell these white people to stop buying from them but but so they don't kill us. we'll lease apartments in order for easter. it is a simple equation, as long as armed groups can re profits from gold mining, they will keep earning the cash to kill and that's her time for today. but as always, the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter at the w news and

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