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the right to levy taxes in the obligation to pay them both inherent in the sovereignty of nation states and their citizens. but what happens when the power of taxation is undermined? with won't pay taxation oh, ticks starts october 21st on the w. martial law in a war zone, flooding reputed calls. it's a technicality. ukrainian official say for them it changes nothing. but today's decree is bound to expand the powers of the forces illegally occupying vast regions of ukraine and paved the way for restrictions on movement force, relocation, and conscription of the civilians living under russian control. but that control is
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partial and increasingly fragile. the strategically important area of her son is slipping through russia's fingers in preparation for a ukrainian counter offensive putin's puppets. there have called on tens of thousands to evacuate. keith accuses russia of staging the evacuation as a cover for its troops. retreat. i'm nicole furnish and this is the day ah, i have signed the decree on the introduction of martial law in these 4 regions of the russian federation. president putin has made it very clear what the pseudo referendums and the occupied territories that he's not looking for a way that russia, especially on a person, is maybe wanted to say tremendous. only person who cannot write no in the
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womb is. this is the word that content right now today. if it is, let him you wanted to. this is his work. he started this war. oh, also on the show back in terror on the iranian climber who caused a stir for a competing abroad without a head scarf appears and public for the 1st time. was she siding with anti government demonstrators and will she face consequences after claiming it was all an accident? i. hello, so i, i apologize to the iranian people, the comment because i created problems for them as my own. and they were concerned about me. you know that when i go version good thanks for joining us. at the law from 2002, one that had never been invoked until now, flooding reputed has declared martial law in territories that do not belong to his
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country, and that are in big part not even under his control. this gives his proxies in the occupied regions, sweeping emergency powers, and could have devastating consequences for the civilians still living there. but potent says, really, it's just a formality with this is you, napoleon, let me remind you that martial law was in effect in the donuts people's republic to lu hans people's republic in the harrison and operations regions de, ever since their entry into the territory of russia each of them, yep. where you are and now it is therefore necessary to apply this law within the russian legal framework. therefore, the more i have signed a decree on the introduction of martial law in these 4 regions of the russian federation. now it's unclear of what the declaration of martial law will mean in practical terms and those illegally annexed regions. the commander of russian troops in ukraine has been forced to acknowledge difficulties on the front lines. moscow is struggling to maintain its hold on several strategic positions. there
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a fierce battle for control over her san looms again of her social. it was one of the 1st ukrainian cities to fall to russian forces at the start of the war. now russia says ukraine is preparing to take it back. images posted on social media by a russian installed official claim to show fortifications outside the city. allegedly, pro kremlin regional leaders are urging civilians to leave in order to avoid casualties one and to give the russian army room to maneuver like women flew up at our so what i ask you to interpret my word seriously as a cold to evacuate quickly. we won't abandon the city, will stand until the end of the gun thought since issuing the evacuation order, the russian appointed administration said it had decided to move across the nepa river. but vowed that moscow's forces would fight to the death. keeping harrison will be the 1st big test for general sergey so revision in his new role as
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commander of russia's forces in ukraine. the man known as general armageddon, admitted the battle for his son would not be easy villiers than i should bloom now further actions and plans regarding the city of high san itself will depend on the military tactical situation at hand. well, i will say this again. it is already very difficult as of today this morning, but also as for the 10s of thousands of people, moscow says are fleeing the city. russia has promised them housing certificates if they wish to leave ukraine. but it's unclear how many are leaving under their own free will. since the start of the invasion, keith has accused moscow of forcibly resettling thousands of ukrainians to territories inside russia. far from home. and earlier i spoke to investigative journalist and latter catherine belton. she works for the washington post. she's also the author of the 2020 book potent people. i began by asking what she thought
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the strategy was behind. fulton declaring martial law in the annex territories. and he's obviously very worried about this ukrainian counter offensive. it does look like the very, very close notes taking care. so and, and he's sort of making steps to make it clear to his population that this is your cranes, aggression, not russia, aggression. and in fact, an advisor to the defense ministry has said that he's worried that what the russians are doing, the preparing the ground for kind of a mis inflammation campaign. he worried that this is, you ation is preparing the ground, brought some kind of bombing attack, which then the russians could blame on the cranium. so there's all kinds of shuffling going on. but really, the bottom line is the last 2 weeks in is going to be very big. like every move makes is a further escalation of things. if you just thinking a deeper and deeper hole for himself, or can he actually turn the tide of the war?
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you know, it's very difficult, obviously he's already been backed into sourcing the mobilization of his own people . you'd always promised that he was never going to have to do that. it's a deeply and popular step which really undermines the foundations of his own presidency. his legitimacy is president, is based on his popularity. i'm ready by bringing the war home to russians. now, bringing it, not, it's not like it was popular women russians because they were watching on this as if they were watching a football match on tv. but now they're risking the life of the ones people who might not come back from the front, going to be barely trained and equipped to fight mean craniums. and really he never want to measure that. he never wanted to take, and it's already leaving him very vulnerable to purchase within his iep and by declaring martial law is also in a way,
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admitting that russia is in fact at war something that he's trying to avoid until now. by labeling it a special military operation, hasn't he? what could be the domestic repercussions of this? you know, i think, i mean, with each stage over the past months as russia has lost more and more territory ukrainians, which is sort of preparing the ground, it seems with the recognition of what he's called as special material peroration as a war. first, we have mobilize ation now the marshal, who are in the ukranian regions and kind of a semi marshal status even within the russian regions itself on the borders of ukraine. whether it's going to be strict and always in, for any comic mobilize ation to support the effort. though the wireless, it's creeping closer and closer to that and really having a big impact on his standing in the lead on among the population. there was a recent opinion by the criminal public opinion foundation which found that 70
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percent of russians and now very, very anxious about what's going on. he's really bringing, bringing the situation home to ordinary russian says, i think his position is much more for terry than it's ever been in his entire president who is still on board with this war. he wrote a book called people who are poor people at the stage. you know, we're seeing divisions emerge within the, around him. of course, there are hard liners who are pressing pretending to act as or against ukraine. i mean, he himself, was, sees, this was that he began almost by accident because he believed that, you know, at the 1st sight of russian troops, president lensky of reclaimed, was just run away. i didn't think he ever in the business that 8 months on he's
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still be fighting this war but has gone on. he's backed into a corner or a hard liners such as your guinea, pretty goods. in a long time, i let his from st. petersburg, who had sent his own messen, me into the site and ukraine. there is another whole cold nikolai popular ship, who is the head of versus security council, who was very instrumental in and paving the way towards that's more in ukraine. he told who turned just days before and now infamous security council meeting, that's the us with using ukraine of the platform to destabilize russia and undermine it. and he told or put in that we are a task is to defend russia sovereignty and territorial integrity. they pretty much tell includes what to do, and so he's definitely a whole. but there are definitely those within russia's economic and now who are becoming more and more a gasket? what's going on in the summer?
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they were perhaps content to that the will rumble on in east ukraine. they were hoping to divert trade most to china and india, and avoidance of western sanctions. but that's becoming ever more difficult and seeing who to lose territory. and that's not just a loss to his popularity it's, it's kind of a loss to his standing within the leaks and suddenly he is coming back. game has been going to great lengths to place the blame for russian defeats on his defense minister. but he is the commander in chief of the russian armed forces. so are people starting to point fingers on him? well, we seen some reporting out in the us, i think from some some colleagues who said that who tim had with personally taking command of the army that he was actually issuing orders himself trying to sort of
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in kind of in bagel himself into the day to day operations, so at some point it's going to come back to bite to, i mean, so far, most of the criticism has been directed at his military chief, but i think that's getting harder and harder to keep the lid on, especially as we see this constant retreat catherine belltime, investigative journalist and writer, let her speaking to you tonight. thank you so much. i think the latimer prudent finds himself in an incredibly difficult position. and whatever reflects to me is seems his only tool available to him is to brutalize individual citizens. you crank sheesh to try to intimidate them and to capitulate the knock i was you as president job, i'm saying
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a lot of recruitment is running out of options in ukraine and washington has played a big part in that since february the u. s. congress has approved tens of billions of dollars to help ukraine defend itself against russian forces. and so far that funding has enjoyed strong bipartisan support. both in the senate and the house. the us, along with his western allies, has promised to back ukraine for as long as it takes with weapons and humanitarian aid. but with the u. s. midterm elections less than 3 weeks away, and the republicans likely to take control of congress. there are a signs that cross party support might be starting to wayne. this week, the republican house minority leader, kevin mccarthy, gave this warning and an interview. he said, i think people are going to be sitting in a recession and they're not going to write a blank check to ukraine. they just won't do it. it's not
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a free blank check. and i want to talk about all of this with our washington correspondent. so he, some us gondo, so he, so good to see you at. so is kevin mccarthy really saying the republicans will cut the funding for ukraine if they win control of congress? nickel. that's the question. a lot of people have been asking in washington to day because this really is the 1st time that we have publicly heard a leading republican signal doubt about the resiliency of u. s. support for ukraine. and kevin mccarthy, of course, is the house minority leader. so that means he's the top republican in the house of representatives right now. and as you said, this is an issue that until now has gotten broad bipartisan support. i mean, both parties have been very eager to show that they are firmly behind ukraine. the white house is set on multiple occasions that they see this war as fundamental to us security as well. congress has approved tens of billions of dollars of humanitarian aid at the white house, a cent, of course,
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billions of dollars worth of military equipment as well. so these comments have raised eyebrows. nicole and i thought it was interesting what the white house said . they were asked about mccarthy's comments and the press secretary, karen, john pierre didn't really address it. and she thanked congress for its bipartisan work and supporting ukraine. and she said, quote, the white house will continue to monitor those conversations on these efforts and support ukraine as long as it takes. so this is the 1st time we're hearing something like that uttered in public. but how popular is that opinion among the g o. p, maybe even behind closed doors. it's hard to tell nicole. i mean, i think 1st we have to dig down into what kevin mccarthy said. and if you, if you look at the quote, he said it is not a free blank check. and that, i think is in part a nod towards a growing sentiment among many republicans that there needs to be more oversight of how money is spent. i mean, we are talking about billions of dollars of military equipment. and republicans are essentially saying many of them are saying there's not enough close monitoring of
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exactly how that money's being spent, where it is going. if it's ending up in the right hands, if it's supposed to be ending up, where it, where it was intended to end up. and the u. s. has been delivering weapons and aid at such a fast speed that it is an easy to track where it's all going. so republicans, as an answer to that have offered amendments to assistance packages that would create a special inspector who would monitor us funded aid into ukraine. as a way to, to amend this that might be what kevin mccarthy was signaling. but nicole, i think there's something else to look at here that is a divide in the republican party for the most part. as we said, congressional republicans have stood behind ukraine. but if you look at the hard right wing of the party, so the republicans were tied to former president trump. they have expressed more pro russian and pro potent sentiment in the past. so i think we're seeing in part a question about where 8 is going and also a rift in the republican party at the u. s. is the biggest supporter of ukraine's
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war effort? is this an issue, voters are worried about going into the mid terms? i think it's important to say there is still broad support for ukraine and of rejection of russia, but that interest and concern has waned. and i looked at a study from the pew research center. they pulled americans in september. and that study showed that the share of u. s. adults who are concerned about ukraine losing this war. it is down to 38 percent. it was 55 percent in may. so that number is dropping. and interestingly enough, or cold, there's a partisan difference. so, democrats are more likely than republicans to express a high level of concern about issues related to the war. so it's safe to say it's not a major issue heading into these mid term elections, but the economy is, inflation is high. gas prices have ticked up again, and that is something to biden administration, a struggle to address it. we've talked to plenty of voters mean my d, w colleagues here who say the economy's top of mind. so what kevin mccarthy is
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touching upon here is how long that this broad spending for ukraine can continue with. so many americans struggling economically, and i know that's a question being asked there in germany and europe as well. but combined with mid term elections, it does have some observers concerned. and one more note and that nicole, remember, republicans are expected to win back the house of representatives in these upcoming mid term elections. so will, could really have an impact. what we heard from kevin mccarthy, exactly to me. so musk on a thank you so much. always great speaking to you, i only a couple of days ago, not many people knew about l master copy. but after the iranian climber participated in a competition in south korea without a he job her name made international headlines. she was applauded for her bravery for her show of support towards the protest movement and then disappeared. last
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night she received a heroes welcome and terran, but fears are she might yet face punishment. a competitive climate, illness recovery is back in iran greeted by a bouquet of flowers and cheering crowds outside terren air force. but it's unclear whether any of this is staged and water fate is now she appeared without a headscarf during a competition in south korea, the weekend. you know, they, these lamps, republic mandates that all female athletes. where did he jap, recovery his claim competing without the her job was unintentional and she denied report she'd gone missing for around a day after the event. i was unexpectedly called her and i had to compete. so i was busy putting on my shoes and technical gear and that caused me to forget to put on the job i had to where then i went to
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compete with. fortunately, i come back to iran with peace of mind. although i went through a lot of tension and stress so far, thank god, nothing has happened. the last comment is spark speculation that her statements may have been coerced. even the wind has spoken out about her case. we are aware of that case and we are following it closely, concerns are being raised her with the authorities as well. and what we have to stress is that women should never be prosecuted for what they, where i'm there to should, they should never be subjected to violations such as arbitrary detention or any kind of violence with regards to what they were anti government protests in around spot for the death of a woman in the custody of the country is notorious morality. police. i've entered a 5th week. now the authorities, treatment of another woman,
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will be closely watched. and i can now speak about this case with you so nea. she's a human rights lawyer and director of the atlantic council strategic litigation project with me. and thanks for joining us on the day. again, it's a very much speculation at this point still, but what do you make of this incident and the claims that it was all an accident? well, i think it's pretty clear that it's not an accident. and that was being forced to say that the video that had come out of her saying that it's an accident. i think it's pretty clear that her voice is low. she appears very fearful. and we have to understand that there's amik republic of iran has a very long history of forced confessions with political prisoners to our interrogation. there are multiple attempts to get them to forcibly confess to things that they haven't done and haven't said. and
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a lot of times these confessions have been televised and then broadcast for a global audience on tv. and also of course, i'd be in the country, but you know, that's the state run media. and i think it's, it's pretty clear she's being forced to say both around promises. she won't, how to fear consequences. does that do anything to quell concerns about her safety? while the reports that we were initially receiving was that after her incredible act of bravery that she would be taken straight to prison when she landed, when she landed at the airport in teheran, there was actually a big crowd of people waiting to greet her, sharing her on and calling her a champion that was very heart warming to see. i can't get in the heads of the authorities, but perhaps the calculation was bad if they did indeed arrest and imprison her.
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that would lead to a lot of discontent among the population. but i'm sure she's going to be put under strict control and monitored. and of course, this is something that they have a long history of doing. let's not forget that. just back in august, before the protest began, a writer's rational was detained for define the state mandatory, her job policy on a bus and to her arm. and she would be in an state custody. and, you know, we, we just see that happening some span. so there's a lot of, there's a, there's a steep penalty to pay for these women who essentially just want to be able to have the right to dress just as they please. and freedom and bodily autonomy recovery is being held as a national hero by the protesters that accident or not does that make her life more dangerous. i think that one of the most important things that everybody can do across the globe is actually share and amplify the profile of individuals
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who are being threatened in such a manner. we believe that it gives a bit of paul to the authorities. there are plenty of people who are killed, tortured, detained, really, under cover of silence and secrecy. and you know, they might not be household names and so people never know what actually happens to them. and that's why we also don't have accurate number accounts on that number of debt. so much of this happened to the secret. so i think calling attention to what she is facing is important actually. and it may be one of the reasons that she wasn't taken directly to prison last night. indeed, or earlier, if indeed that was the plan. so the theory, the un and the us have all said that they are watching very closely how around trees are from here on out. do you think this international attention really makes
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or any safer? we've seen instances in the past of prominent athletes, you know, facing punishment despite international pressure to pardon them. yeah. like naveed ask ari moral champion wrestler who was executed on the public several years ago. i know that there's been called to, you know, not just those institutions, but also international, you know, rock climbing, federations and, and that kind of support. we think it's important for that international attention to be there. we think that it makes a difference. as i said, a lot of individuals are tortured, arrested, killed under secrecy, in a cover of silence and nobody knows their names. so it's very important that we are aware of what is happening to us and make sure that she's safe. but this is part of
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a long history of forcing individuals who dare to just exercise their basic rights of freedom of expression. this is a long history of silencing these individuals, forcing them to confess, or make up a story that will cover up what they have to leave in there as mobilizing the public. thank you so much for speaking to thank you. and that's our time for today, but as always, the conversation continues on line, follow us on twitter and join us again tomorrow. thank you so much for being with
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ah ah . d w news lying from berlin. vladimir putin declares martial law in the 4 ukrainian regions. the announcement tightened small scows grip on territories that russia illegally annexed last month in wild boots. tom general and ukraine admits that his front line troops are facing difficulties. also on the show.

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