ah, ah ah ah ah, it's a dw news live frumber lead, reconstructing ukraine after russia's invasion, germany jose conference on rebuilding the devastated country. the talk is of a program on the scale of the martial fad after world war 2. but how realistic is

that full? ah, i'm sarah kelly. welcome to the program. world leaders including german chancellor, olaf sholtes our meeting today in berlin to discuss rebuilding ukraine. ukrainian president followed amir zalinski is addressing the com work congress by video link . it is estimated that hundreds of billions of euros will be necessary to rebuild the country. sholtes and european commission president ursula found a line r calling to international community to the international community to put together a so called marshall plan for ukraine. conference organizers say that reconstruction is a generational mission and a key step towards ukraine joining the european union as burgundy w chief, political correspondent,

nina hossa was standing by for us at the location there. and nina, tell us a little bit more about the main message that leaders want to convey in their opening speeches that we are waiting to hear. well you can see behind me, germany's chancellor left charles and the head of the european commission was left on the lion. they're still waiting for the ukrainian prime minister finish me, how to arrive of the guests have already arrived. so the, the idea behind this conference that will have charged cold in his position as the head of the g 7. so the most industrialized democracies around the world was to send a clear signal to ukraine that the west is already thinking about rica helping ukraine recovery reconstruct on modernize. and that it is a generational task. that's what the german chancellor said. so they're not sending the signal to you, craig, we're hoping you now, but are solidarity will somehow soften over time. we are standing by you for

the next couple of decades. we want to bring you into the european union. what is the top aim of the conference? you think a nina and, you know, as you've highlighted are already there actually just tells how realistic does it appear to be? what do they hope that they can realistically achieve today in particular? well, to be honest, sarah, this has been a bit difficult in terms of communication because all our shots uses these big words marshal plan. everybody thinks about the reconstruction of germany after the 2nd world war, where the americans said, we need a strong germany in the heart of europe, no matter what they did during the 2nd world war. we're not going to punish them. we're going to help them become a strong economy again. and this is exactly something that they want to do with ukraine. they say you are being attacked right now, but we want you to stay a country where it's livable for your people,

but also where we are going to help you modernize so that eventually you will become a european union member. but of course, at the same time, the german government has also said, don't expect too much from this conference today. we're not going to set up an you institution or a new organization straight away today. this is the beginning of talks of month long talks, essentially where the experts are going to come together. so the head of the i, m f is here, the well banged the european investment banks, and one of the main problems is going to be how do you get private investment back into ukraine because it's already clear that it's not going to work. if only governments and states are going to help finance ukraine, but of course you need to convince private investors to actually go into ukraine vall, they're still the risk of bonds destroying everything that you're setting up there . absolutely. um and let's talk a little bit more about that scale, nina,

because the german chancellor olive shult, in particular, has drawn these parallels. we've been making to the marshall plan when the united states finance rebuilding europe after world war 2. how accurate is that comparison? because of course, that was indeed massive. well, of course the situation was a completely different one as well. all those international organizations that we have in place now they didn't exist. so basically that was an effort that started from scratch, and it was terribly difficult. but it was also full of opportunities for the west to grow together for multilateralism to take shape. and now we've got all those international organizations in place. and one of the ideas here is that you essentially try and pool resources, but you don't get into competition with other existing international organizations because that is not the idea. so ukraine says it needs some 750000000000 euros of

investment to get out of a situation where they say that they're at risk of and no longer being able to finance themselves. and the world bank has estimated that the ukraine has already suffered some $350000000000.00 worth of war damages. so it is a massive scale, but you do need to have the right structures in place. and that was one of the ideas behind this conference, which is why i left short said this is not a political meeting where we're yet again, pledging donations for ukraine. we are trying to really work with the structures we have in place and see where there are gaps. so that this support for ukraine becomes sustainable. okay. and, and we are awaiting that conference getting underway as we can see the arrivals now outside. nina has a standing by for us. we're to bring you the speeches from all of sholtes or sla founder line and followed amir zalinski as they get underway. but in the mean time

on the ground in ukraine, we'd like to bring you up to date their russian missile and drone strikes continue to cause damage. people are cleaning up and getting on with their lives the best that they can. however, some critics say they are moving on to soon have a lot, an increasingly familiar site, the aftermath of a drone strike in keys. this one struck an apartment building, killing 5 people. many cities in ukraine have been reduced to rubble, but not the capital. authorities here refused to let the city fall apart. within a few days, the streets were being cleared. the spirit is cleanup and keep going. the yard boomers sure. i think that the municipal services acted very fast in this matter with their gray when the more pressure goes to come along. i think the city services and key of react very fast and in a correct way,

by cleaning up the aftermath at critical point. was that black when an air strike hit one of the main roads of kia, which was no, i'd lose some a loaner car to pay the transport of material. but some think that's the wrong approach. they want the world to see the destruction, the air strikes on playgrounds schools and hospitals. it's the thorman author what she of ought to put up. i don't think they should clean the debris right away. flasher, the more people see the more they can understand the scale of the actions of the russian state. were ye what's called the spices, could be memorials for those who might forget the crimes that were committed. and when we sam upon the a t at law, not all dogged out the door, but for many here, quick repairs, make it easier to have a life that is something like normal. even knowing that the next missile or drown strike, could come at any moment. an german president. fine thought ashton, my meanwhile has arrived in the ukrainian capital. keith. it is the 1st time that

stein meyer has visited since the russian invasion on february 24th. he is planning to visit areas heavily damaged in the war and to later meet with ukrainian president followed him as the landscape. their talks are expected to focus on military support and repairing destroyed infrastructure before the onset of winter . w correspondent, funny to char, is covering the president's visit from keith, and she told us how it offers a chance to meant relations between stein mire and his ukrainian counterpart. while we all remember, of course, that mister starr, my or german is president, wanted to come to the capital of ukraine already this spring in april when he was uninvited, was actually part of a bigger group of the had built the buck at the hands of the baltic states, but also was to join his polish counterparts and really did the last minute he was uninvited by ukraine. it was a lot of speculation. why that happened in never was an official reasoning for that . but ukrainian and polish officials were speculating that this may have been

connected to the fact that then germany's president don my, or was foreign minister during that cabinet of form a chance to market these ties with russia may have been a bit too close. now this is definitely the opportunity for mr. shy, met to men, ties zelinski, even though there were a few phone calls of course prior to this visit. and of course a to, to, to spread this message, the germany stand side by side with ukrainians. and this is, of course, was quite important for ukraine to hear that from germany, that they would keep supporting this country, not only in a financial way, but in that community are away militarily and politically as well. so basically that's the diplomatic message of presidential meyer that he brought along in his diplomatic suitcase. but of course he also speaking with this visit here in ukraine to germans, back home, his domestic message, the people in germany do not forget what's happening here in ukraine. that why,

of course, this hardship as well because of energy prices increasing. the people also realize that here in ukraine, things are of course, very difficult as well, and much harder given that so much infrastructure has been damaged in ukraine and really needs a rebuilding by a very time soon. okay, you're watching t w in is. meantime, russia took control of most of the have san region in ukraine's south early in the invasion. now they are bracing for an assault by advancing ukrainian forces. he says that russia is sending in more troops and preparing the city of hassan for urban warfare. russian installed authorities, there have ordered civilians to leave as ukrainian forces make hard fought gains nearby. after months of occupation, the village of fresh jenica in harrison is free. most of the hamlets residents fled when the russians came. but o leg tells the danish broadcasting corporation that his family stayed behind and

were treated cruelly. well, it's a dois. doria believes that it's a long story. here. we experienced a lot of things all. one time we got a bag over our heads and got taken away in military vehicles to the school. although then they ransacked the house. oh, legs family slept in a basement for months. as fighting around rush, jenika intensified. but they stuck it out and were rewarded for their patience neighborhood. but we waited a long time for the ukrainian army like oversee. we hugged each other and cried, and i just moved it on yet i never lost hope. settlements up and down the hare sun front or waking up to find their occupiers gone. analysts say the russians are abandoning their positions to avoid encirclement as ukrainian forces advanced

toward the nepa river and the city of her son. if they do reach her son, it's unclear if there will be many civilians left to liberate. russia says it has relocated tens of thousands of people as keeps forces draw nearer. a group of hair san residence arriving in crimea say they had left behind a dangerous situation. i'm from have son or how was it there now? bad? who is there shelling? yes. while russia is calling this an evacuation. moscow has been accused of forcibly relocating ukrainians to its territory. either way. no one who boarded these buses out of her son can say when they'll see their homes again. you're watching dw news. we're standing by now for special coverage as international leaders, including german chancellor, olaf schultz, our meeting today in berlin to discuss re building ukraine. you're looking at life pictures there from the conference. we're,

we're expecting ukrainian president followed amir zalinski to also address the conference via video link. it's estimated that hundreds of billions of euros will be necessary to rebuild the country. sholtes and european commission president ursula funder line are calling on the international community to put together a so called marshall plan for ukraine. conference organizer say that reconstruction is a generational mission and a key step towards ukraine joining the european union and as we wait for the german chancellor to take the podium and open this conference, let's bring in d. w chief political correspondent, nina hossa. to put this on to perspective for us, you know, what are we expected to see today? well, we are again takes what we are expecting to see a lot of high ranking, international guests of all flocked to berlin and of course important

representatives of the ukrainian government. so dennis, me how the prime minister has just arrived here in berlin, and olaf shows the german chancellor and the head of the european commissioners. a funder line greeted him here in the ukraine's finance minister is also here. this is supposed to be an experts panel, an experts conference. this is not a political meeting as such. this is not about just trying to get international countries to pledge donations for ukraine. that's not the idea that all are sorts ones to address here. he says it's more about trying to find expert solutions and get recommendations from representatives of the well bank of the european investment bank of the i, m f, et cetera. who can all sit together here and discuss how they can essentially help put they solidarity financial solidarity with ukraine on stable footing and add to

make it sustainment level also in terms of organizational structure. because they, they say that it's not enough to supply ukraine with weapons or with financial aid for the for today and tomorrow they are thinking long term. they are saying we can't have this country destroyed. we need to be buy it side sustainably. absolutely, nina and you know, when, when some might look, for example, at this conference right now, they might be wondering why there is a conference on reconstructing ukraine when in fact the fighting is still continuing. so tell us a little bit more about how now this should work. um, they have really big ambitions here. they're calling it a so called marshal plan. yeah, those are very big words. of course, everybody instantly thinks about the big reconstruction plan that the american set off for europe after the 2nd world war, where they said ok, we need to integrate germany back into the, the heart of western countries. and we need to help it overcome all the war damages

. and that is exactly the idea here for ukraine. they say we have no idea how long this attack by russia is going to last on ukraine. russia has very clearly formulated the goal of destroying ukraine, and we can't let that happen. so we can't wait for the end of this war to start helping ukraine with its recovery and reconstruction and modernization efforts, which is why we need to start now. and of course, one of the big topics is how do you get private investment to actually agree to go back into ukraine when they're under the risk of having all the infrastructure, for example, that they're helping set up. they're destroyed by russian bombs again straight away . so one of the issues at stake here, today's also going to be about some sort of an insurance scheme where for example, governments and states can say if you as a private investor, are willing to go back into ukraine now and help rebuild infrastructure that has been destroyed or help set of electricity em or, or energy pipelines,

et cetera. then this is something where we're greg give you the guarantee. if this gets destroyed by russia, then nina, therefore, you mean i'm going to interrupt you because are the german chancellor is now just taking the podium listless in an excellence is honored guests of delegates, friends in and from ukraine. ladies and gentlemen, president funder line that i welcome you to berlin, to support our ukrainian friends and realizing their vision, so for their future. for the recovery, reconstruction and modernization of eucharist for a peaceful, prosperous, and resilient ukraine with whom we share a joint european future. as we speak, russia vicious walls, aggression is once again intensifying the latest indiscriminate actor attacks, including the use of comcast, drones against civilians and civilian infrastructure. and ukraine,

mach and new low in russian disposable effort to wipe ukraine of the map. the apparent way of warfare only demonstrates one thing. 14th, russia is desperate. the proud and brave nation of you green will prevail to ensure that it does prevail. together with all our friends and partners, we will resolutely continue to support ukraine politically, financially, and terms of humanitarian assistance. and also with arms. for as long as it takes for as long as that support is needed. in particular, germany would continue to provide you cleaned with the ad defense systems. it's urgently neat. snap, the best reconstruction is to reconstruction. that does not have to happen at all because ukrainian cities and polish stations are protected from russian bombs,

drones, and misses. today, we do not yet know when this war will end, but end it will. and when it does, we will continue to stand by ukraine and it struck us for security, freedom and democracy. we know that no 2 countries, history are the same. but from our own historian, historical experience, we also know that reconstruction is always possible and that it is never too soon to tackle this task. now is to moment to convene the brightest and best minds to provide expertise and recommendations to stop rebuilding. hickory. now is the moment to use diverse collective knowledge to contribute to ukraine's future. now is the moment to develop the institutional framework to govern and deliver ukraine's reconstruction. and now is the moment to discuss how ukraine's future can

be built and financed. that is why we gather here today to discuss how to ensure and how to sustain the financing of the recovery, reconstruction and modernization of ukraine for years and decades to come. so let me stress what this conference is not. it is not a regular donor conference. it is more fundamental than that. this conference is about developing dis, structures and mechanisms that will help to facilitate and finance for john minute canes, in 1944 called permanent reconstruction. so that's what it is. what is at stake here? nothing less than creating a new marshal plan for the 21st century, a generational node task that must begin. now. the recovery, reconstruction of modernization of ukraine will indeed be

a challenge for generations. one that will require the combined strength of the entire international community. but it is also an opportunity for generations to come if we get it right. so let us not just focus on reconstruct ting. what was as important as this is at present. but let us also think about what can be a more advanced, sustainable and resilient ukraine, a ukraine, that would be an important producer of green energy, an exporter of high and industrial, and agricultural products. a digital power house with some of the boards best i t experts and e u. member, with infrastructure and a legal framework to match for me. the pin unions commitment to ukraine as a future member as one of the most consequential geopolitical decisions of all

types. are global endeavor to both reconstruct ukraine and pursue the u. s. success and process would yield enormous synergies. no, not just you cream, but europe as a whole will be the stronger for it. we also need to combine the various internationalist trents in support of decree. doing our presidency, the g 7 has taken unprecedented steps to impose economic costs on russia and on those supporting its war of aggression based on the commitments we made for ukraine . at the irma summit in june, we are now looking to our japanese friends as the incoming g 7 presidency to ensure the continuity of our support. d 20 lead us permit. and by the next month and we encourage our indonesian friends to address you, koreans needs,

as well as the imperative to defend the international routes. based on the international community established a vision for ukraine's future in lagonzalez to lie. i congratulate our swiss and british france on the progress made and look forward to the follow up event next year. last but not least, we come together here and burden today as a global global community. ready to pull our knowledge and convene the expertise needed to transform ukraine in its fight for freedom, independence, and sovereignty. ukraine is not alone, nor would it be alone. yet at this turning point in ukrainian history, ukrainian ownership and agency are key. therefore, i welcome president zalinski keynote speech and prime minister smith gaz participation today. together,

we are looking forward to the insights that the participating experts bring to the table. we want to gather pathways for financing, ukraine's future. not just for months, but for years to come in order to be able to live up to this, i don't genic endeavor, we need to develop even better ways to bring together public and private fund us from around the world to invest into a sustainable future of ukraine, we should discuss what the transparency, effective, and inclusive governance framework could look like. one that all our partners and the international institutions present here today can subscribe to. and we will hear from the very best on aspects such as decentralization and regional development on anti corruption, investment, promotion and macro prudential practices, the better the set up recreate for ukraine's reconstruct. now,

the more international support ukraine will enjoy in the years to come in convening this excellent and diverse international group. we demonstrate, once again, our unveiling support for ukraine and of full confidence that the values we all share with ukraine will prevail. thank you all for joining us for thinking big and outside the box just at the scale of the task it had the choir requires. thank you very you watching the w news and i'm special thought, where does germany host to close to long building? you very mom crane to the german chancellor up next we are going to be hearing from the president open of the european commission or slough underline has been wait for

her to take the stage. let me just quickly recap what we have just heard or we just heard the german chancellor saying that russia has reached a new low in trying to wipe it ukraine off the map it back. he says that puts russia is desperate for us to is a bit germany will continue to provide air defense systems broke to ukraine. and that now, and this is the intention of this conference. now is the time to set up the framework for reconstruction. he's calling for a new marshall plan. was it for the 21st century? now, taking the stage, we have youth mission president as a refund around let's listening her wonders counsellor, her winners, president cassie's federal chancellor, president cassie's prime minister. she has done what i've yet here. minister, excellencies, ladies and gentlemen distinguished friends of ukraine. we want to discuss the

reconstruction of ukraine to day. thousands of destroyed houses. several 100 schools turned to rubber countess bridges, rose power stations, re weigh infrastructure and industry bumped or ukrainians. these are not just statistics. this is their every day experience. it's about having a roof over their heads. a warm place in the winter and classroom where their children are safe. it's about going to work, bringing food home and making a living. these a heart scary and painful days for ukrainians. but ukrainians are showing us that they have hope and confidence in the future. and they will

keep fighting for it and it is their future that brings us here today. europe has been supporting ukraine from day one on we can never match the sacrifices ukrainians are making every day. but we can stand by their site. we have introduced the toughest sanctions against russia. over all the european union member states and european financial institutions have provided ukraine with more than 19000000000 euros in assistance. and this is without military assistance. we are working hard to increase ukraine's access to our single market because this creates revenues for ukraine. and what is more? europeans have opened their hearts and their homes to more than 8000000

ukrainians who have fled, proteins bombs, and 4000000 who ask for temporary protection in our member states. and i would like to thing that millions of citizens who are giving the most noble help to their neighbors in neat. this is europe at its best awe. today we want to discuss how to step up our ongoing support for ukrainians and how to make the reconstruction of their beautiful country a resounding success for me, 3 points actually. first we need to make sure that ukraine at all time gets the support it needs from relief to rehabilitation to long term construct. reconstruct.