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oh, ready no's. welcome to talk with him about hackers and paralyzing tire societies. computers that out some of you and governments that go crazy for your data. we explain how these technologies work, how they can go it was in for, and that's how they can also go terribly watch it now. new to fresh food galore in germany. we're used to supermarkets brimming with produce but often it has come from far away. that makes our supply chains. vulnerable is
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a kind of the war and ukraine is revealing our limitations we can tell from the empty shelves what didn't come from germany. us, i'm getting your thoughts on come. we need to feed more and more people globally. but in terms of farming threatens the environment and our survival, if we use for this will actually cuts of practices. the next 2000000000 people that will be in the year 2015, we will need a landa asparsa, brazil. it's time to switch to sustainable farming practices and new food sources. if we want to support the global for chain fan or for an alternative at n minutes and growth love, see what food we eat in the future. farmer
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eunice should sidney hoff has been refining this recipe for a long time. it's something special he thought up for his 3 children. when done though, to the thick life an art, this is going to be a kind of chick pito for you. i'm going to cut it into little fish shapes for my children, fish forms neither. then i'm going to fry it a bit. so it gets that extra bit of flavor done. it's a meal made almost entirely from chick peas. and that comes apart from the spices entirely from local production. how to say, you know, i'm about to let to florida chick peas or a gar, bonds, or beans, or a protein rich pulse from the middle east. that the farmer has begun to grow in eastern germany. he thinks agriculture and eating habits need to change, he must be an element swamped. else in how should we eat in the future as eating snips or every day is incurred was in. it probably isn't good to eat just lattice every day, either to cover up a variety. i think that's the most important thing. that means we don't have to go
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without anything delighted in it, but it means that our food is very varied and nutritious about us via their feet fetish and i shall tish on sand and come in at his farm in the german state of saxony and heart eunice choice and ne hoth grows all kinds of super foods. to day he so aquino seeds, the grain is native to the south american andes, but feels increasingly at home here. then vianza mon, what if we keep on growing what we always have was from them? we're not going to get anywhere if i thought climate change means getting used to be idea of cultivating different crops. so that's why i find it really interesting fun and keen, why is really healthy and tasty. like i'm enjoying doing this and i think that's the most important thing possible if you enjoy something you can do it while hadn't come on. so i felt like when showed sidney huff took over his father's farm. 8 years ago, it produced traditional crops like wheat mays and sugar beat. but he decided to
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switch to non native crops or forgotten. he's gearing up for the future with nutritious and more resilient crops, better suited to new climate conditions. and that's annoying. on the one hand, i want to try out new things and on the other hand, i want to have long term goals. that's important to me. when my father always side farming is about thinking and generations. and i try to live by that principle and a foolish had alkaline so called super food like keen, why are becoming more popular due to their high nutritional value. but demand for keen, why here is driving up prices in south america and threatening their supplies. yet these hardy pseudo grain now thrives in europe too, does not seem as in the thing of, it makes much more sense to produce things locally. if it's possible value dealing with them apply a certain degree of globalization will always remain. i'm sure you can,
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but we save an amazing amount of energy and emissions by avoiding unnecessary transportation. and of course, it would be great if we could grow our own food supplies for the new drug. resistant crops could help in saxony. unhealthy spring rainfall is dropping, and summers are getting hotter and dryer. kiwa is a timely solution. it needs a 3rd of the water required by wheat or give us the food and agricultural scientist or to go. vanka is supporting the adventurous farmer. together they are checking how the 1st seeds of the year are developing his and this has come up quite well. ya know, of it. yes, it's coming up quite well in the field. there's a lot of weeds growing up between and we can't see the rows of seedlings from the tractor. the colonel. so we can't use machinery for hoeing at the end of the machine, knocked over to some next crops. new to the region like keen one and practically
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forgotten ones like hemp mean a lot of trial and error. things can go wrong. but diversity is key. that isn't on the missiles we, there's risk with all crops. if the weather isn't right the my crops might fail, obviously from that point of view, i am reducing my risk by diversifying this eigen please. it is unlikely that all my crops will fail at once, so she did you close for lunch, toya? of course, there are costs attached to the learning process. it is a sort of where we are investing quite a lot of work in something with an uncertain in a very uncertain outcome and under business. but it's an investment for the future . hong kong, i'm out of them in the city on and it's woocommerce can what it sounds like in one is a super food. it has plenty of calories and it's very healthy and bringing it here is also an opportunity to diversify what we eat. tongues and left by the pins, have item bought a galvan, can one saxony, unharmed to become a super food producer. the agricultural scientist has set up an organization to
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achieve this goal. ah. used vouchers. vision for farming in the future doesn't involve cultivating the land at all. oh, different di are the river on board with him? are german marine biologist, xavion, cows and developer. leaning a home on their workplace is in a sense, under water for a resource for you free for from here, for from here down in the water. there is something that they would like to see enriching the diets of people in europe, seaweed. ah,
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there are estimated to be hundreds of thousands of species of algae world wide. only a fraction has been researched. seaweed can be cultivated on ropes at sea. sylvia sh house quickly identifies the types of edible seaweed basses for granted that sugar color. now this green one is see, let us live, you can need that to come on off se danasia is and that's what coming on does. it weighs at least maybe 3 or 4 kilos. but i think he long there isn't ours been filthy there for dinner tonight. in europe, this slippery stuff is still regarded with a little suspicion in many parts of asia. by contrast, seaweed has long been popular vouchers would like to see it catch on in europe to
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and help make our diet healthier and more diverse. now the world mainly eats rice, wheat, corn, and meat that promotes the rise of mana cultures. makes us dependent on just a few types of food and vulnerable to crisis. if he wants to support the global food chain and offer an alternative or re need the stress on the current system. and then we need to grow a lot of seaweed 4 years ago about a set up the seaweed company. before that he worked for an unhealthy or part of the food and drinks industry. he was a manager for a beak soft drinks company. the birth of his son led to a rethink. now i'm making plans to get children drinking more does beverages, but my boy gets older, i don't want him to drink. and then i realized that those big companies that exist, it's very hard for them to change. and actually i don't think they can change. they
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wanted, they ride it on their social media, but in the end it's just nothing. currently his company operates 9. see we'd farms cultivating the species that are native to the local ecosystems. the beauty of see read is that it grows in water. we don't need length, it doesn't need fertilize. it doesn't need fresh water. see, we'd also absorbs a lot of c o 2. a lot more than most things grown in soil because it develops a lot faster. so if you roughly calculate every 1000 feeler wrongs of wet, see we've has a sore 100 and frankly, the bronsels here to to help popularize it in the european market. the team is also developing new recipes and products. in the area around matt to book is one of germany's corn baskets owe to calvin cook wants
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to use its fertile soil to start a new trend together with her team. and farmers like even us should sidney hoff. she's introducing new arable crops to saxony and height. she's using his farm as a test field. as will blame us in the problem is that most farmers experiment a bit out that but because there's no scientific supervision, they don't get listen to the initial wasted. a heard as entity only and you're only deemed important when the university is on board to the researcher. from the university of ha is using her standing to back this agricultural transformation at the moment, just under 16 percent of what is harvested worldwide, directly ends up on our plates. 72 percent of it is turned into animal feed and 11.7 percent is used as biofuel or as an industrial commodity.
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in mission viejo, mia awfully. we have to move towards producing more food and away from animal feed and fuel type stuff. above all, we need vegetables, hospital men, at the moment it's brought in from around the world. i'd like local agriculture to increase and become more crisis resilient rushed in. if we ate less meet, there would be enough food for another $4000000000.00 people. that's another reason why all to calvin gall and her students are looking for plants that might thrive locally. need to be whatever flourishes here in the test garden could help guarantee food security in the future. the pop noise a lot, we need new species. that's why we have this garden of to morrow here and for that also farmers don't have to try things out on their fields. that's we're doing a bit of the leg work in advance for we can say yes, it works and you can try it out. look, it's growing really well or what?
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no. let's take one is i have battled look. does lentils don't really work in your soil or chick peas need. those particular conditions have support at the, on the stand on getting on. the students are recording every experiment. they're amazed at how many non native species grow? well in this part of eastern germany, we have over in here. we're trying quite a lot of the pretty crazy way out with things here. for example, the potato bean malavar spinach and perennial. cale would really wild, who was as organs public as a. hm. so come spies in or a future foods is the name of the project. it promotes kilowatt and chic peace. millet sloop heaney beans, ham seeds and lentils. some were wide spread here, but fell out of favor. now they're making a comeback. when did it even sucrose fi isn't, is the idea of sucrose shy isn't. is from farm to table, most of them to get farmers and cooks and trying out new types of produce trying
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out different systems, new agricultural systems of the see the local cultivation team of new plans here understand often i have plans on so long but system change can only work if every one participates. she's convinced of that. and she's got a plan in, in the local youth hostel. the agricultural scientist is giving cookery courses together with her colleague, lena horne at lynn of atlanta. what are we doing with the key more to mom? i a day we're going to make a king was salad and a came watching p. patty hotly. at the workshops, local cooks chefs and bakers are learning how to best prepare the new ingredients. if agricultural system change is going to work, their role is vital and asthma was in been one, it only makes sense if you can get what the farmers are growing on to people's plate sensing, saying so we are showing people who work with good,
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what to do with it, because you're baker's what to do with it. and that's the basic idea. i guess the one to put it simply hang from farm to table from fed. often tell us the baker is trying his hand at making hummus from regional chic piece. kids with honda too much. lemon juice. oh, it's our me up. it's absolutely new for me and i am a regular baker who uses ry wheat flour and salt. but i've got 30 years working life ahead of me and this is the future. my children. my took over my bakery business and i want to build a foundation when it's on last alternative. i'm looking forward to reading diesel. before most of the hostile cook is also enjoying the change museum. woke up it doesn't always have to be potatoes and why not use something different for a change that can be just as easily cultivated, you know, something from the region which is sustainable. keen was salad with beetroot and
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apples. for instance, a local choir is getting to sample the food. all the ingredients are vegan, hollow and kosher. so the cook doesn't have to offer alternatives and can put on a really good buffet without spending more. so how's it going down, minute talk, my daughter clicks like this, so i'm a bit familiar with it when i have and i think it's good. but to it personally, i'm still a bit conservative, you know nonfiction quite a lot more hotly. or i would also make a patty from chick peas from buffer. we know it from falafel and so on. it's good, definitely of it. yes more. thank. now we'll have to see what went down well and what didn't. and will need to continue supervising micah the time. but go to calvin glass to attend to other things. first.
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an inconspicuous building on the edge of copenhagen. could it be the solution for many of our food problems? owner sleeman certainly think so. the name of his new fangled farm is nordic harvest. my background is as a financial analyst as an investment bank. and the 8th years ago i was sitting doing an incentive program for the employees offer the bank, which gave them the opportunity to earn 100 percent on top of their salary if they were high performers. so then i thought you said ok, just to sit and learn some money for yourself and not do enough for the society. the banker became a farmer and set up europe's largest indoor farm in the danish capital, for and as leman, vertical farming is a way to stop the destruction of ecosystems and feed the world's growing population
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. at the moment 38 percent of the world's land area is used for food production. it consumes 70 percent of fresh water and is responsible for 30 percent of greenhouse gas emissions at 3 months. eco friendly, vertical farm crops grow without any soil at all. this is the roots growing directly in the wall from the roots absorb nutrients from water more easily than from soil. so they need less fertilizer. the facility is also constantly recycling water. it uses almost 95 percent less than conventional vegetable farming. but the biggest challenge was finding the right lighting one day on my way home from the mitchell at 3 o'clock at night. after going out in the town, i thought, what about it? the lights have that been developed enough to make photosynthesis for pen?
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so you can grow them in lay us in water. and in actual fact 20000 only the panels were able to function like sunlight and stimulate plant metabolism. the light looks purple because vertical farming combines different light spectrums to promote plant growth. we have in the field which we put into an aluminum faith and the aluminum will a for the heath and put it out in the room. the temperature here is between 22 and 26 degrees celsius. ideal growing conditions for salad and the electricity supply is carbon neutral thanks to wind power. inside things grow a lot quicker. there are 15 harvests a year outside only $2.00 to $4.00. vertical farming is independent of the seasons and climate conditions. it's more secure now off the for warner and the war in
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ukraine. we are very vulnerable for security of buying food. so we need to be able to have food production inside of the cities as part of the infrastructure, shorter journeys also mean humans saves transport costs and avoid c o 2 emissions. it's just a few meters from the shelf to the harvesting machine. most of the work is done by machines, but the technology is still very expensive. boy size facility far would be about $45000000.00 euro, because if the technology is that have just been profitable. so when it's developer of of end, it can be profitable. in other countries also was they are not yet using the facilities entire surface, but already supply 120 supermarkets went up to speed. the farm could produce some
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1000 tons of leafy greens, 250 times more than conventional agriculture. from the same surface area. at the moment, nordic harvest only grows lettuce and herbs here. but more vegetables and fruits like strawberries are planned. hello, laura. how's it going? good for him to know about the result. german plant scientists last may get ski overseas processes in the vertical farm. we want to keep them. she's working with bacteria that will support plant growth. yes. will do better. thank you. is thank of you home. yes, he got additional. i think that we have all the technology here at hand and we have to ensure that we also use it in a positive way for the future on we're doing good pioneering work here to make progress on that front on. thus, sponsoring population growth means that such trail blasing work is becoming more and more important for millions of people.
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aah! at the ost as swale. a barrier in the netherlands used devout us is tending his freshly harvested seaweed in the waterside facility. the seaweed is dried or kept fresh in water tanks for further processing. so what you see here is then the sea week after it's finished, so this at the end of the season. beautiful leaves of o for a way of sickly. you still see them here on the rope. this is not so you can see a full rope here. and then we, we cut it, and then we process it in our, in our products. he is already preparing new spores and glass flasks in the refrigerator. ready for seating here you see the beginning of the whole life cycle. this is where the c re, babies, in a very early stage are growing and kept. and this is where restart the base
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material for see read. the spores will later be sprayed onto the ropes that will be dropped back into the water. but to day, he and his team are trying out a few products they intend to use to stir up the food industry. finally, some food was devoured. well, filmy, what do we have? yellow, so we have now seaweed sausages and seaweed burger with barbecued meats with seaweed. these sausages aren't made from pure pork, but include 15 percent see weir. this beef burger is 30 percent c. we'd use fountas and his colleagues realised that not everyone was prepared to give up meet entirely and see we'd helps to cut c o 2 men had been present price. it means you can use 30 percent less meet that's less meant to be produced. and of course,
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it's much more sustainable. thus naturalists business. now heidegger with cattle. farming produces lots of the climate killers, methane, and c, o 2. on average, the production of kilo of beef has a carbon footprint of 13.6 kilos. if you're replaced 30 percent of the beef and beef burgers with seaweed, the carbon footprint would drop to 9.5 kilograms per kilo. marine biologist, sylvia shed house also wants to popularize a japanese dish in europe. it's a kind of seaweed fondue quickly. turns green green immediately, but and now we're take it out and dip id weights. but if i love it, it's fantastic. go ahead. in restaurants, we can, we can have this as a, as a or do say that as an experience. so you get some fresh, she read on one side,
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you put a phone view on the fable. it is. this is really nice sometimes about us finds it hard to believe how far he and his company have come up. 10 years ago. he was still a manager in the soft drinks industry and now he is working to create healthy food fit for the future. he's moved by the thought that his vision might come true. i feel like if we can cultivate seaweed on a big scale and let the world no and benefit from what series can bring and offer alternatives for a fortune. i think then i'm happy man. ah ah thought i hope everything's been assign accessory. oh great. um. so what do we have here? chick peas, king law and hemp. when tons money to sniff organic farmer,
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yonah should sidney huff and agricultural scientist ought to cov ankle had been working on their joint mission for 3 years now. with today, the super food expert is promoting their climate friendly and draught resistant foodstuffs at an organic market and his official in law. and i think it's important to get into conversation with people and asked them whether they liked the food or not just was, what are they looking for? did they have questions? that's why i like going to the market again. i want to listen to people and pass their feedback on to the farmers and into the field of research. the scoobie show kind of hot months of work. more and more people are getting into chick peas. over the last 10 years, imports have risen fivefold, ga vega, would like to meet the demand domestically and gain more chick p fams
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i guess on 1st week, freshly mil to flour in baked them yesterday. i've hardly ever seen some things over. i said also failed to get a flag of them. that's true enough, bessie, and they're lovely. so crispin nutty won't. and if you can eat chick peas but can eat. not a great alternative replied that i've even lighter miss unice. it's my mission and to create farming and a future fit for coming generation. i want to get other people on board and give them a plan b and b again, yes, to get them on board and tell them that there are ways of changing things shipped. okay, i have a sofa and none. mm yona show, it's a ne huffs chick. peas already for sewing. or the idea of growing a new crop. came to him in his kitchen. pulses contain a lot of protein, but domestic types like garden peas, don't grow so well here. any more method. i miss league. it's more difficult now
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with native legumes because the weather the climate has changed. with the mild winter, we saw a big rise and pest switch among and of into shot, and i was on the lookout for alternatives. and one thing led to the next. now i'm growing chick. peas will come. i, it's manon alexio's to kept the farmers home grown chick peas have been on the market for 5 years now. and recently, he's acquired a big customer in berlin, who's using them to make co food, something akin to toe food, then, misunderstanding. we need to, you less me to more plan proteins that we need more variety than before matthew. and then i think we'll be able to feed more people using a less land loiter. that's what we have to aim for. if we really want to survive as a society itself, as human beings, partners with standard units. so it's a ne half is already making the switch to a new type of farming one that could ensure that there's enough food for everyone.
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ah go india. oh, him only in wall. oh, in ongoing, declining demand has reduced the number of sheep, her ears, causing me ecosystem to suffer. now some local organizations are trying to rejuvenate the world trade which would revive traditional craftsmanship and to benefit the environment. eco in 30 minutes on d w. o
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